No Multiplayer on PC - sign here. [Archive]

zul448

11-27-2009, 08:57 AM

Oh look nobody likes your thread, just calm down and stop trying to find ways to call d4mnit a lier when he has a legitimate point. Just because you cannot play it, does not make it the games fault. On PC there are many different hardware configurations, and while devs attempt to cater for as many as possible, yours is obviously not working as easily as for many other people.

+1

Hey guess what, every thread on this forum is a discussion thread. That's what it's for. instead of ♥♥♥♥♥ing on a forum, start doing some research to figure out what your problem is. A good place to start is to know your hardware, driver, OS version and network settings to help diagnose the problem.

DirtySammy

11-27-2009, 09:41 AM

use GAMERANGER

gamespy failed.

C4Chaos42

11-27-2009, 09:51 AM

Oh look nobody likes your thread, just calm down and stop trying to find ways to call d4mnit a lier when he has a legitimate point.
What do you mean trying to find? They are abundant and I bet you one of the big reasons behind it is that it's a port from consoles to pc.

Just because you cannot play it, does not make it the games fault.
I'm going to have to call BS on this one. Most other games I own the on U3 engine have far less multilayer issues if not none compared to this hideously developed game. Additionally most of those games haves have way more people playing it and far less threads in regards to multiplayer issues.

U3 games I own:

Killing Floor
UT3
Frontlines: Fuel of war
America's Army 3
Borderlands

On PC there are many different hardware configurations, and while devs attempt to cater for as many as possible, yours is obviously not working as easily as for many other people.Suppose the developers didn't lie and developed this for the PC first rather than consoles than a lot of these problems wouldn't appear or be fixed really quickly. Their obvious target hardware is that of the console's and for the rest is just a hit or miss...

use GAMERANGER

gamespy failed.
As DirtySammy pointed out they also created a annoying problem for users, the requirement of owning a gamespy account as opposed to the default server browser on most other titles which alone is superior than the current one in borderlands.

Also when a community starts to use alternative methods for features of a game that tells you about the quality of the game...

flowover

11-27-2009, 11:57 AM

It is the game's fault. I've been an avid PC gamer for the entirety of the last two decades. The amount of hacks and tinkering involved in getting the online multiplayer to not time out is unacceptable. It's not a matter of hardware configurations. Even after getting it to work, me and my roommate cannot play behind the same router online together. One at a time. Some people recommend enabling DMZ. **NEVER ENABLE DMZ** This is a golden rule of mine and no game should ever require that you do this. If it does it's broken.

Why is it 100's of other PC games see the internet and connect without any problems, yet a brand new game needs ports forwarded for basic functionality?

Not Multiplayer

Edit: 1 more thing to add. I can hardly join games because other people can't figure out how to forward ports in order to host games properly. 9/10 join attempts time out. How do I know it's not me? 1 user on server playing. My experience is being affected again; This time because other people have to 'figure things out'. It's a broken game.

C4Chaos42

11-28-2009, 04:08 AM

Why is it 100's of other PC games see the internet and connect without any problems, yet a brand new game needs ports forwarded for basic functionality?

Not Multiplayer

Edit: 1 more thing to add. I can hardly join games because other people can't figure out how to forward ports in order to host games properly. 9/10 join attempts time out. How do I know it's not me? 1 user on server playing. My experience is being affected again; This time because other people have to 'figure things out'. It's a broken game.

Gearbox having made this game primarily for consoles didn't realize that port forwarding should only be used for dedicated servers on PCs. As you've stated lots of people don't know how to do that which causes problems with our online experience.

However soon it wont matter because a lot of people a reaching the point where they realize that this game finished at level 50 after the second play through was completed.

OJ191

11-28-2009, 06:41 AM

If it was a game issue, EVERYONE would be having these problems. Thus the only thing I can see is that something in the code disagrees with your config, however its pretty obvious they are not going to be able to cater to EVERY. SINGLE. hardware config available. The majority of what I have read on these forums has been resolved with a little tweaking, and most of THOSE issues have been consumer hardware or software based.

Give me an example of where every single person who bought the game has had the exact same issue, and I might be inclined to believe you that it is the fault of the game.

C4Chaos42

11-28-2009, 07:38 AM

If it was a game issue, EVERYONE would be having these problems.
I always wind up repeating myself...

The majority of what I have read on these forums has been resolved with a little tweaking, and most of THOSE issues have been consumer hardware or software based.

Give me an example of where every single person who bought the game has had the exact same issue, and I might be inclined to believe you that it is the fault of the game.

Just because it runs on a narrow range of hardware doesn't mean that everyone should downgrade or upgrade their computers just to a poorly made game. This game is optimized for consoles specifically despite them saying otherwise thus it doesn't support a wide range of hardware like most other good games on the same GAME ENGINE support. A major example of this is people having issues with their dynamic shadows on high end performance machines which is a very valuable feature to most players with high performance machines.

Instead of them focusing on bugs and any other issues with the game they have gone ahead and started making a DLC which can only mean one thing, either they are going to ignore these issues and continue spurting out DLCs or they are making DLCs that don't tweak the critical aspects of the game allowing them to fix the bugs later, either way it's ridiculous to do it in this order.

When I bought this game I thought I was buying a game that was made for PCs with console support not the other way around.

OJ191

11-28-2009, 08:42 AM

I did not say that you should upgrade your hardware, nor that it was your fault. I said that it was not the GAMES fault if you are not compatible. That just means that while the devs have tried to support as many different configs as possible, yours may be having issues. Not the games fault, simply an oversight (?) of the dev's not knowing YOUR particular hardware.

EDIT: Oh and they already said that they started making the dlc when the game was gold, and they could not change it. They could not be making bug fixes because the game wasn't out. Also, they probably (although I don't know) have different people for bug fixes etc.

C4Chaos42

11-28-2009, 08:46 AM

I did not say that you should upgrade your hardware, nor that it was your fault. I said that it was not the GAMES fault if you are not compatible. That just means that while the devs have tried to support as many different configs as possible, yours may be having issues. Not the games fault, simply an oversight (?) of the dev's not knowing YOUR particular hardware.
You're right, it's directly the dev's fault. Most gaming companies attempt to make the game compatible with most systems, not let it sit there as is.

tHEcRIPPLE

11-28-2009, 09:45 AM

That just means that while the devs have tried to support as many different configs as possible...

I think you give them too much credit. I can't remember a game that I've had this much headache over. I still can't play online without getting disconnected when the group changes zones.

I've seen talk about people having the same issue using wireless internet. If that IS the case, shouldn't they put that on the box as a requirement? "Online Play: wired high speed connection" I don't see how anyone could argue that it's the consumer's fault that the game isn't working.

D4mnit

11-28-2009, 10:22 AM

Wireless connections can cease and resume connection multiple times in a game, depending on the game. Battlefield 2 is the perfect example, "Warning Connection Problems", would flash on my screen numerous times at almost regular intervals because of the manner in which your computer relays info to the router, the router relays to the modem, the modem then relays to server, server relays back through the line. Area changes are a vulnerable spot because it is when data is synced from the host to all the players and vice-versa. This is a standard issue with wireless connections, however, it seems to only affect connections that are under 8mb/s. If your connection isn't up to date, just like any hardware in your computer, your experience will not be the best.

I haven't heard anything on the status of this latest patch (the last patch was a silent one as well), but it will be adding automatic UPnP, which will allow everyone to host, increasing the number of servers.

Gamespy, on the other hand, is hit or miss. I have seen one server come up and other times had two pages worth come up. There is supposed to be continuing effort to improve the Gamespy experience, but that is an issue with Gamespy, which involves more ropes to jump through.

Overall, Gearbox does everything they can to help the PC community and is very responsive. Unfortunately, their overlord 2k is a PC-hating publisher that likes to delay all patches and news to PC users. Gearbox has stated on many occasions they cannot divulge any information on patches, the DLC, or their PC work besides highlighting some issues and stating a patch is "pending certification". They have had a fix to the networking issues completed for over a week now, but 2k will not release the patch.

kaheiyeh

11-28-2009, 03:19 PM

I'm going to have to call BS on this one. Most other games I own the on U3 engine have far less multilayer issues if not none compared to this hideously developed game. Additionally most of those games haves have way more people playing it and far less threads in regards to multiplayer issues.

U3 games I own:

Killing Floor
UT3
Frontlines: Fuel of war
America's Army 3
Borderlands

Just cause they're all on the same engine doesn't necessarily mean that they're all on the same netcode.

Seriously, how HARD is it to port forward? It only takes you a few minutes at most to put the forwarding instructions.

Hiroshima

11-28-2009, 05:32 PM

I really don't know how people are having this problem

stopher87

11-28-2009, 06:49 PM

I am as mad as you.

/signed

The fact that I paid actual money for this game and I can't play online because of something so simple as port forwarding? I mean how many games come out every year without any problems connecting to online games. Yes the games themselves have problems, but the fact of the matter is that I bought a game which I can't play. Sure you can say, "well you can play the single player." That is not why I own a PC. I own a PC for the internet and all that comes with that. If I wanted to play alone I would buy a WII or something, but even with that you can play Smash Brothers ONLINE.

Walter Matthau

11-28-2009, 06:51 PM

/signed

Looking forward to the fix.

BoBo2

11-28-2009, 07:06 PM

They pretty much killed the game using gamespy and that awful interface.
Seriously Gearbox, what in the hell were you thinking?

A waste of money, very disappointing.

OJ191

11-28-2009, 09:50 PM

I think you give them too much credit. I can't remember a game that I've had this much headache over. I still can't play online without getting disconnected when the group changes zones.

I've seen talk about people having the same issue using wireless internet. If that IS the case, shouldn't they put that on the box as a requirement? "Online Play: wired high speed connection" I don't see how anyone could argue that it's the consumer's fault that the game isn't working.

Just because they failed, didn't mean they didn't try. Also they may not even have "failed" as such, if there was the slightest mistake in some seemingly innocuous line of code, it may have messed things up. As we do not know the situation I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt, at least for another few patches or until we hear otherwise FROM THEM.

EDIT: However don't think I am defending them, I simply feel that it wasn't (entirely) their fault in this situation. As for the DLC however, I find it unacceptable that we do not even know a concrete reason for the delay, other than "it's coming, hang on"

D4mnit

11-28-2009, 10:04 PM

Yet again, an automatic UPnP patch is pending deployment at 2k. Gearbox had it ready to deploy over a week ago.

weez2mo

11-29-2009, 07:34 AM

/signed the OP

I bought Borderlands on zero day. I had no working multiplayer at first, I followed a series of instructions to forward ports, and after a few tries at that(there was not a consistent list of needed port forwards at first), I did get the game working and was able to host reliably.

Point is tho, games should not require these extra steps. As mentioned, many UE3 games do not require this; Borderlands should not be the exception.

I enjoy the game, but Gearbox/2k really dropped the ball with some at first small, but really important details - multiplayer connectivity being one of them.

The choice to make your game that you are designing easy or hard for the game's players to play with others is a no brainer. Again, Gearbox/2k really just dropped the ball here.

And sadly, the game could be going the way of HGL; new content being rolled out with higher priority than fixes to the retail game to get it to play like it ought to have.

I'd really hate to see BLs go that way.

elasticbandshoe

11-29-2009, 09:10 AM

signed.

a game that focuses on the multilayer aspect should never have this many problems right out of the box. it's downright sloppy and i will have serious reservations about buying another gearbox title in the future.

Walter Matthau

11-29-2009, 10:17 AM

I think the rage beam should be focused on 2k, and not necessarily Gearbox.

Gearbox did give me a Red Rider BB gun for Xmas after all. 8)

DemmyDemon

11-29-2009, 12:09 PM

Yet again, an automatic UPnP patch is pending deployment at 2k. Gearbox had it ready to deploy over a week ago.

Read my lips: ♥♥♥♥ UPNP.
It's the worst crap to happen to networking since Token Ring, and that ♥♥♥♥ was HORRIBLE.

So, while UPNP looks like the Holy Grail, it is only the Holy Grail of network intrusion.

No, what needs to happen is a proper Master Server ("Switchboard") to let the connections traverse NAT, rather than this over-rated "P2P" crap. SRSLY.

LordGurciullo

11-29-2009, 12:15 PM

NOT MULTIPLAYER

This game has been A huge disappointment since DAY 1. I bought it with a friend and we STILL have never been able to connect. We tried opening ports but he couldn't figure it out and then we heard of the "game ranger solution".
And not to mention this again but I Will.... WE should NOT Have to open ports.
I imagine only a VERY FEW would notice that if you use game ranger, it resets your settings, which means MOUSE smoothing returns, and I could not figure out a way to load your config file using game ranger.
I was waiting for this game for a year and have already uninstalled it when I realized that the multiplayer doesn't work properly at all and THEY STILL HAVEN't FIXED IT! When they released a patch that Didn'T fix it... I couldn't believe it.... and where is the next patch. I will play again but I am waiting for the next patch...

also:
I believe they have stated that dedicated servers are to complicated for some.... but opening ports on your router .... easy as pie.
*extreme sarcasm*..

Walter Matthau

11-29-2009, 12:18 PM

I feel your pain. Gamespy ftl.

owned?

11-29-2009, 12:43 PM

use GAMERANGER

gamespy failed.

Game Ranger doesnt even work for me? By that i mean i installed game ranger and it works, but i still cant host any games...?

MajorRam

11-29-2009, 01:01 PM

No Multiplayer..

i just bought this off the holiday deal but cannot connect to any multiplayer games at all. Was trying to play with my brother and times out. From the menu selection screens and presentation you can easily tell this is a complete console port.

I have a lot of games bought this holiday season and dont really need the headache with this one.. can i get a refund somehow?

Startingline13

11-29-2009, 02:52 PM

This game is garbage. I mean that in the nicest way possible. When I could play it, and could log on for multiplayer games, it was a blast. I had an incredible time. But those experiences were few and far between. Now I can't even get on at all. Port forwarding? Really? Should we have to deal with this? It's an unfinished product, plain and simple. If I could take my money back, I would. I would tell them to take the game, make it playable, then I would buy it again. But at the moment, it doesn't work. You know what happens in most places when you but a broken product? You return it.

Walter Matthau

11-29-2009, 05:14 PM

Wow! It's not just me! hmmmmm

csta

11-29-2009, 07:51 PM

i cant play online aswell

rebus_forever

11-30-2009, 11:15 AM

ok was i warned by steam or borderlands site i wouldnt be able to play multi-player till i had opened ports. oh u say in the install file there is a readme file that warns u will need to forward ports, well arnt i a ♥♥♥ for not seeing that before buying the game!!
well moving on set up ports failed, paying a man from a shop to come to my house and set it up for him to tell me i had done it correctly failed , then changing my router and turning off all the firewalls that ever existed ever and i still cant play, FAIL.
playing other games np, never having had to forward ports and hosting and joining games to my hearts content priceless.
so whats the shizzle did i buy a complete game or a kit, i dont remember seeing on the steam page, "will need glue and cutting tools" id have asked an adult for supervision (<<-- if i just spelt supervision properly its my new favourite word).

if any of u people have any advice i am at the stage where i would let a dev or technician or terrorist remote access my comp at this stage to help stem my unrelenting bursts of tears at the fact i cant play with my new toy because it turned out to be a model kit and it turned out i dont have the pre requisite diploma f science to "tweak" into functionality. i sigh

tonster181

11-30-2009, 12:04 PM

Personally, I'm not sure why DMZ is such a problem? Can't you use DMZ and then turn it off when you aren't playing? Consoles are basically DMZ all the time.

I guess I'm not too worried about hackers, viruses, etc because I can reinstall Windows 7 in 30 minutes and get everything updated relatively quickly. The only issue is downloading the games off steam, which takes about 24 hours for all the games I currently play.

I've found that Killing Floor and Frontlines: Fuel of War had many more issues than Borderlands. Killing Floor had MAJOR ISSUES that could not be solved by the end user. FFOW had the same issues that made the game unplayable.

While some people sit back and ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan, there is a fix for this situation. Follow the instructions and bam! your problem is solved. At least there is a fix for this game, even if it's a bit technical.

The other way around is to disable windows firewall and put your computer on DMZ on your router. That seems relatively easy to me. Sure, security is a little compromised, but I've DMZ'd computers for months without a problem. I seriously doubt a hacker wants to look at your pr0n anyway :)

Myagi

11-30-2009, 12:09 PM

Walter Matthau

11-30-2009, 01:30 PM

Can play online just fine, have done it with multiple people. multiple times. This game kicks major ace. Sorry if your intelligence level cannot lead you to a solution as simple as port forwarding. Whine all you want, if it works for one it can work for all (Sure maybe some tweaking is required).

I would like to personally thank 2k and gearbox for making us port forward as you have now weeded out the ignoramuses that are unable to try websites such as portforward.com for assistance to open a few measly ports. If you find that it is an ethical issue for you, go find a soap box. It's funny how originally I could not get online. I went to a few forums, spent about 15 minutes of my o so precious time and now I have no problems. I am thoroughly enjoying the game and feel I already have my $50 worth of the game. Compared to some of the garbage of games being released lately, this game is a breath of fresh air. I only feel bad for the persons who can't get online, because they are using that as an excuse to bash the game in its entirety.

Why the indignation??? Some of us have tried these "fixes" with no results. There's no reason to bash those who have had no luck fixing a game they paid for, or those who cannot grasp the technical chops in order to fix it. It's bad enough that the community was indoctrinated into fixing this game's multiplayer after release. Even if it is a "simple" repair, it's still a repair, and I doubt that these hosers at Gearbox or 2k, will start cutting us checks to repair the game they put out that doesn't work.

The only thing more frustrating than not being able to play a game we paid hard-earned money for, is being trounced by elitist tech dewds, who feel that if you can't get Borderlands to work, you don't deserve to play. It's possible that the community does NOT have all the answers, and it's deplorable to assault those of us who have yet to get the game to work.

tonster181

11-30-2009, 01:37 PM

I think the sentiment here is that there are known fixes that can be followed step by step. Rather than try those fixes, some people bash the game. This is disheartening to all of the rest of us who managed to get the game to work.

Maybe you have a unique circumstance that we don't know about, but for the vast majority of the posters, they just bash the game instead of applying the fix. The fix isn't even that hard, and while I know it can be daunting, ask the people for help that are techies here instead of calling them elitist. That would be a good start.

I'm guessing the sour grapes attitude has contributed to your zero rep and lack of help. I'm here to help though if you are willing to try a few things. If not, I really don't feel sorry for you. If you try and we can't get it to work under any circumstance, then send the info to gearbox and see if they can resolve it for you.

Walter Matthau

11-30-2009, 01:56 PM

I do not use Steam forum rep as any kind of barometer for anything. You've been most helpful, and I thank you. It is greatly appreciated. I've pm'ed tech people on these boards and have earnestly attempted to work around this.

My point is that, Borderlands' host play is cumbersome, and requires technical knowledge to execute. As I've said, before, no other game has required me to burn this many calories in order to host.

My other thread that leveled the rage at me was simply warning others like myself to beware, as this game requires an abnormal amount of tinkering to operate. Apologies if I came off half-cocked, but I think that the warning is reasonable.

tonster181

11-30-2009, 02:03 PM

Roger that. No worries, we'll try to get you up and running. Maybe next time just ask for help and explain that you aren't well versed in this stuff. We'll work on it though :)

Walter Matthau

11-30-2009, 02:21 PM

Again thanks so much for the assistance! You are the man!

Still, I just find it a tad abhorrent that this amount of troubleshooting should be necessary for a basic function in the game.

Peace and Love.

tonster181

11-30-2009, 02:23 PM

Well, like I've said before, some other games won't even work correctly. At least there is a fix for this game :)

I was pretty torqued about FFOW not working. I tried all kinds of fixes to no avail. I guess I should have realized that it was $7.50 and you get what you pay for :P

Startingline13

11-30-2009, 04:17 PM

Let's hope this fix rolls out pretty soon. Even at the moment the gamespy servers are pretty dead. I've been using Ranger since yesterday, and it works pretty well as far as connecting goes. After the game launches, select LAN play and you're good to go. I've had some noticeable lag when playing, but perhaps it was just for those few games I played. It's a solution, albeit not the best.

Walter Matthau

12-01-2009, 11:25 AM

Gameranger is pretty cool, and the devs are active in keeping it viable with the newest games. Heck, I think I've seen the creator post help here on the forums. Now THAT'S customer service! It's definitely worth the download.

SpyRiggy

12-01-2009, 11:41 AM

I would like to personally thank 2k and gearbox for making us port forward as you have now weeded out the ignoramuses that are unable to try websites such as portforward.com for assistance to open a few measly ports.

That's a pretty silly stance to take on an issue which directly effects the size of a community for a game that you claim to like. Unless you have some kind of study that links net savviness to game aptitude I'd say you're coming off overly hostile without good cause.

rebus_forever

12-01-2009, 12:52 PM

tonster181

12-01-2009, 01:10 PM

Your technician either isn't worth his salt or your router is not working correctly. Any tech worth his salt can manually view all open ports and associated programs. He could also offer the DMZ option, although it's not really preferable. That said, I can make it work for you if you want help.

Let me know.

Slyke

12-01-2009, 06:01 PM

People shouldn't have to port forward for a popular game such as this. You'd think they would have put a few hours developing a heartbeat server (Or something) so we all wouldn't have to.

Not only that, because we have to port forward, only one user can play this game behind each NAT router.

DMZ is just a stupid idea, opens you up to hacks and everything, since you are no longer shielded.

Making a dedicated server:
Different story entirely. One should have the technical knowledge to know how to port forward if they want to setup a dedicated server.

But just an Ad-Hoc host? Stoopid.

D4mnit

12-01-2009, 08:33 PM

I shouldn't have to avoid certain streets downtown either, but such is life.

Steeljubei

12-02-2009, 01:19 PM

"Not Multiplayer"
Opening ports only allowed me to join games, not host. I dont care what the fan boys say, there is no easy fix to this problem.

AdrenoChrome

12-02-2009, 09:51 PM

I've found that Killing Floor and Frontlines: Fuel of War had many more issues than Borderlands. Killing Floor had MAJOR ISSUES that could not be solved by the end user. FFOW had the same issues that made the game unplayable.

Did these issues involve never playing a single game because no games existed when you clicked a "play this game" button? What's the comparison? Please elaborate on the never-played-at-all issues for both games - maybe there's a solution they found which has still not crossed over to BL.

Follow the instructions and bam! your problem is solved. At least there is a fix for this game, even if it's a bit technical.

Follow what instructions - exactly. Please list the solution without omitting steps or exceptions.

Your helpful response will be the source of my next OP which will be entitled "all PC players: final multiplayer fix." Or heck, you could start that thread! I smell a sell-out working for the man to do damage control... And if not that... then what is that special scent?

The other way around is to disable windows firewall and put your computer on DMZ on your router. That seems relatively easy to me. Sure, security is a little compromised, but I've DMZ'd computers for months without a problem. I seriously doubt a hacker wants to look at your pr0n anyway :)

Uh, do not disable your windows firewall.

There is a firewall between my furnace and the adjoining room... It's not a ♥♥♥♥ing modesty fence, it's a FIRE WALL.

Jeeezus what IS THAT SMELL??? :confused: Smells like ... cabbage or... unemployed IT guys.... something...

Anyway, popping in to see where this thread was at.

No solutions yet... running at about 9 weeks now. Discontent still rampant and wikipedia still being trolled by the trolls trolling here. ♥♥♥♥ing people and their desperation for cash, it's deceit piled on top of anonymity and smothered in automated customer service robot sauce. This crap just won't stand, you see? Capitalism isn't what's working, it's consequencism. It has to hit the fan sometime, and it won't matter what you're wearing when it hits you... *sniff sniff*

Don't forget!

The check is in the mail!

D4mnit

12-02-2009, 10:16 PM

Your reliance on smells is disturbing.

Here's how capitalism works. You have a problem. You find a solution or you continue to have a problem. The information is readily available. If you don't like the freedom get a console. If you can't take care of it get something that will take care of you.

You want fixes: http://portforward.com/
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=998836
http://www.gamespyarcade.com/support/firewalls.shtml
More problems? http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/forumdisplay.php?f=93

AdrenoChrome

12-02-2009, 10:28 PM

Sorry if your intelligence level cannot lead you to a solution as simple as port forwarding.

Yup, Starcraft had this problem too, but somehow it became the greatest online RTS ever made.. wait... oh ♥♥♥♥ sorry - starcraft would be nothing if they didn't spend the 16 hours of employee time to make a passable multiplayer system.

And it's only passable - but still the game is epic.

This game ain't epic.

Seriously, this is so simple to fix... maybe a day? - to have a decent programmer create a BASIC online interface. Hell, put it in UNIX if you are so desperate to save your IT associates degree tech's salary for something else much more pressing, like why you can't move your Inbox in Outlook or something...

But...no.. They would rather have 300,000 people spend "15 minutes" (tm) of their collective time... 4.5 million minutes... to fix what did not take 4.5 million minutes or even... 300 bucks of coding effort... to create, problem solve, and trial.

Insulting to your Buyers much? How bout those lucky investors?

And 15 minutes of my life is worth way ♥♥♥♥ing more than the 45$ my buddy spent to gift this POS to me .... even at the exchange rate of 0 minutes of play for 0 dollars spent by me.

How many collective minutes have I spent for all the other MANY online PC games I've played?

0 (prev mins) * 15 (curr mins) * 13 (years online) = does not compute...

So yeah.. I'm gonna slap you with teh donkey van ♥♥♥♥ award for biggest corporate shill argument put forward in sneaky backhanded lazy shill coder slack ♥♥♥ firewall crippling single bitter WOW addict fashion.

Congratuleehaawwww gobblegobblegoblleslurpfart!

1 Less excuses and more "try."
2 Failing is ok, as long as you try to un-fail afterward... sigh

ignoramuses

...ignorami :(

"blah blah blah... portforward.com"

...shill :rolleyes: .. okay maybe that's a positive assumption. you could have sincerely dumped all your port information onto that insanely invasive website...

spent about 15 minutes of my o so precious time

your time is precious, (re: life), money and effort reflect values, as in the valued player community is not given a 4.5 million minute clean up chore in order to have "fun" ( "fun" in theory - i honestly don't know if the actual gameplay is ♥♥♥♥ or stewed babe sauce.)

"blah blah blah" *consume microwave burrito* " blah blah" .... "this game is a breath of fresh air!!" *pantymoisten*

There is a firewall in your microwave which is also removable.

You probably won't die if you remove that too.

Now you can conveniently microwave anything in your kitchen.

Advertisements read: Home warming system - some setup required!

www.microwavemynutz/por.favorward.drrrrrrrp////mythroat

Besides you've made it clear you wouldn't know fresh air if it invaded your mom's basement riding a naked [insert something about starwars to keep his attention].

I only feel bad for the persons who can't get online, because they are using that as an excuse to bash the game in its entirety.

I'm not bashing it entirely, because I have entirely not played it.

Ever.

Because it's ♥♥♥♥ing broken.

persons

:D seroiusly, you said "persons?" I bet you were naked when you wrote that. Another burrito involved nearby... Fan playing over your unconditioned loft space... dehumidifier humming nearby in the Vault of Infinite Solace... unchallenged unto ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥...

So, bringing this full circle, re: persons of logitechnical altitude:

There's only one flavor of "Don't Work:" See previous Award.

AdrenoChrome

12-02-2009, 10:32 PM

I shouldn't have to avoid certain streets downtown either, but such is life.

Apt. .

AdrenoChrome

12-02-2009, 10:34 PM

Well, like I've said before, some other games won't even work correctly. At least there is a fix for this game :)

Please list steps. Also, lawl.

it was $7.50 and you get what you pay for :P

I have gotten nothing for 45 bucks. And I agree with you - do not buy this game unless it drops below 7.50.

AdrenoChrome

12-02-2009, 10:44 PM

it can be daunting, ask the people for help that are techies here

I built my computer and I comprehend networking... I have no interest in doing someone elses job and paying THEM for it.

listen up "techies" who read this... get some balls and do something next time your boss pressures you to EXCRETE something like this with YOUR NAME attached to it.

You might be saving your current job... but you're destroying your resume'...

I'm guessing the sour grapes attitude has contributed to your zero rep and lack of help. I'm here to help though if you are willing to try a few things. If not, I really don't feel sorry for you. If you try and we can't get it to work under any circumstance, then send the info to gearbox and see if they can resolve it for you.

This post and the reply smell like crappy faked up melodrama.

Notice that the solution wasn't posted here.. or anywhere.. yup - "problem solved" in the land of no accountability!

Stop this evil ♥♥♥♥ kids. Gonna end up like every other temporarily rich ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bag on the planet.

Unemployed, hated, self-loathing, surrounded by an aura of self-satisfaction - which the ladies identify as strictly referrant of your masturbatory habits.

WoW, I hear, has a game when you click play-online. I bet that pays off! Only time will tell... ♥♥♥♥ty game + actual internet... profit?

At least we tried Theoretical Game + no internets = Profit!

Don't buy the ♥♥♥♥in game people, the patch is in the mail! :) heh

D4mnit

12-02-2009, 10:58 PM

I've never seen a quadruple-post before, especially when none of them make any sense.

Silent Scorn

12-03-2009, 12:20 AM

I've never seen a quadruple-post before, especially when none of them make any sense.

Very true. And when one of them is only 4 characters long, you have to question the integrity of his argument and the desperation behind it. Seems a little needy IMO.

RalphMalph

12-03-2009, 04:43 AM

I've never seen a quadruple-post before, especially when none of them make any sense.

They don't make sense to you because you're ignorant.

Not stupid, ignorant and remarkably proud of it.

xlxSmokeyxlx

12-03-2009, 06:02 AM

I understand where AdrenoChrome is coming from, its not the best game in the world and there are issues with it especially the MP side of things but i've had problems joining games without any firewall interference, i don't use one because they are becoming more invasive than i'd like and yes, i do understand how to configure a network with firewalls.

Your posts, although wordy, i do agree with most of but the quadpost epic seems more like a clip from a Bill Bailey stand-up show more than anything.

It's ok though, i like Bill Bailey.

D4mnit

12-03-2009, 09:17 AM

They don't make sense to you because you're ignorant.

Not stupid, ignorant and remarkably proud of it.

If someone were to speak to you in that manner on the street you would double time the other way without looking at them.

The lack of coherence in a statement does not make me ignorant. I don't want to take on the arduous task of trying to decipher what appears to be words in English with no grammatical sense or rhetorical meaning.

I'm not ignorant, at least I took the time to troubleshoot and fix a problem instead of waiting for someone to fix it for me. I know, someone will say "I tried everything", but everything doesn't give us any information to help fix any problems. One person's "everything" could be opening ports without setting a static IP, or not allowing Borderlands on their Firewall access.

This just about sums up the meaning and maturity of your movement, said by your own AdenoChrome: "Congratuleehaawwww gobblegobblegoblleslurpfart!"

tonster181

12-03-2009, 10:33 AM

Adreno: I won't copy and pasta all of your stuff, people can look at it above. For now I'll just respond to your questions and insights:

1. Starcraft came out well before almost anyone had a home router. I seriously doubt they incorporated the Upnp standard for routers that was not even created at the time of release. We are talking apples and oranges here. A 10 year old game doesn't have the issues of today because of totally different hardware. I guess maybe networking is not your strong point, and that's okay with me. I'm not good at a lot of things. That said, you'll have to take my word for it....apples and oranges.

2. The rest of your first post is basically bashing others, so I won't respond to that. It is inflamatory and is likely to get you no tech help. Maybe tone it down a bit if you are going to ask for help?

3. I can't list generic steps to fix the problem because all routers are configured differently and the menus are not at all the same. If I could have, I would have and it would be stickied. That is not possible, however.

4. The way you phrased your response made it seem as if I said this game was only worth $7.50, which is totally untrue. I said that I bought a game that flat out didn't work for $7.50, which is a totally different situation than the issues with this game. The issues found in this game are very fixable and aren't really that big of a deal. In fact, I have guided a few novices through the steps to get their games successfully working.

5. The fact is it is daunting to ask others for help, especially trusting them with your PC. Obviously by my statement above, you are not so good with networking, but admitting it is the first step. I really don't understand the rest of your comments regarding my quote, though I haven't tried too hard. I have to agree with D4mmit here. Incoherent rambling.

6. I actually did solve the OP's problem and offered to help others if they wanted it. I guess you'll just have to take my word for it, since you are unwilling to read my other posts. Walter and I have worked it out, not sure why you couldn't follow the conversation via our posts, but reading and comprehension could be another shortcoming of yours. Or you could just be trying to cause problems, which is fine with me. I've dealt with plenty of other troublemakers on forums before :)

If I'm misinformed here and you are actually wanting help, you could explain that without inflamatory comments and provide your router model so we can get started. If your intentions are otherwise, then continue to watch me ignore you :)

Beastage

12-04-2009, 05:36 AM

Not Multiplayer, I can't play this... GameRanger stopped working since patch 1.01 and ingame browser is horrible and any game I join times out.

OJ191

12-04-2009, 07:17 AM

Chaos Marine

12-05-2009, 02:56 PM

I wouldn't mind a warning sign stating that without ports forwarded the game won't run or even more desperately needed, something to tell me the damned pings of the servers I'm attempting to join!

saintthedogg

12-05-2009, 05:53 PM

i hadn't tried multiplayer yet.

im behind 2 routers and a cable modem , have trouble with anything requiring port forwarding.

no trouble here though. game was a little laggy but connected fine, no tweaking necessary.

windows 7 x64

flowover

12-05-2009, 10:11 PM

AdrenoChrome

12-06-2009, 12:53 PM

Your posts, although wordy, i do agree with most of but the quadpost epic seems more like a clip from a Bill Bailey stand-up show more than anything.

It's ok though, i like Bill Bailey.

Yeah back itrl i'm a writer... amet progger... did the school for a job in games but the reality of the work makes the dream seem increasingly unpalatable... might just go amet dev and see if people get on board with my way of gamin.. which btw is very much the way l4d series, and borderlands mood control... those 2 are the best i've seen.

I found my own workaround for the no-multi problem... btw... but all vocab aside, if i sold a review for this game, which i wouldn't... because negative reviews for pay seem... well... career ending!... but IF i sold a review, i would avoid the question altogether and rep the game a 8/9 singleplayer and spin multiplayer as a 'elite gamer puzzle' or something to that tune... spin it as a challenge to the old gamers like me... (lol 32)... who learned of uuddlrlrababselstrt and realized the power of the dev! :)

Theah is, a-no cow level! When will yall stop askin?

=post merge, thanks for pointing out the epicquadpostanomicon=

>Originally Posted by flowover View Post
why would you be being 2 routers? don't do that. they're not like extension cords
>>*starts troll debate about electrons/copper wires*

forkprong

12-06-2009, 05:43 PM

why would you be being 2 routers? don't do that. they're not like extension cords

The one directly connected to the internet may be a gateway with the other as a hub.

Just guessing tho.

Remus Shepherd

12-07-2009, 10:42 AM

Not Multiplayer.

I cannot connect to any online games. I have no interest in Borderlands as a single player game -- I bought it expecting co-op play.

I have seen the port-forwarding workaround for the online play failure, and IMHO it's bulls---. I'm not opening holes in my firewall or digging into my computer's setup just to play a game.

At this point I'd like a refund.

Walter Matthau

12-07-2009, 10:52 AM

Careful.........

Remus Shepherd

12-07-2009, 11:01 AM

Careful of what? I just got on these forums after looking for a solution, so I don't know what the hot button issues are. But the lack of online play is ridiculous in a game that's supposed to be based on it.

Can anyone point me to how I might get a refund for Borderlands? As I understand it, Steam won't refund for third-party games, and the game's developer won't refund anything purchased through Steam. So I'm basically screwed, unless someone here has advice.

Walter Matthau

12-07-2009, 11:03 AM

What is your specific ailment? I had issues with port forwarding and firewall settings. If these are the problem, I can happily give you what info I have. I had to utilize forum help to be able to host, took a while but we finally got it working.

Let us know exactly where your roadblock is, we may be able to help! 8)

tonster181

12-07-2009, 11:06 AM

Remus Shepherd

12-07-2009, 11:38 AM

I came here looking for help playing online. I saw that there is only one workaround for my problem, and it's not a very good one (*). So I'm still looking for help -- this time, in getting a refund. If I don't find help for that then I won't be sticking around to complain. I'm not that type.

(* -- I say that the port forwarding fix is not a good workaround for two reasons. One, apparently *everyone* must apply this fix; otherwise I could join games hosted by other people. Let's say that 10% of the people who bought this game apply that fix. That means a majority of the games (possibly up to 90%) listed in the game browser will still be unjoinable, and the population of people playing this game will be pitifully small. Not my idea of a fun online game community.

But more importantly than that: I love my firewall. I trust my firewall. I have had internet worm infections in the past, and my firewall fixed them. I'm not taking a crowbar to my firewall to play this game, period. I have a dozen other games that do not require such treatment. It's a non-starter for me.)

If a patch is released soon (I'll give it by mid-january, unless I get another game for Xmas that I end up obsessing over) that fixes online play, I might try Borderlands again. I'm not that angry about the multiplayer fail. Singleplayer just didn't grab me enough to want to finish the game that way. (I've played up to level 9 as a Siren.) But then I didn't expect it would, because I was planning on online play.

tonster181

12-07-2009, 11:58 AM

You do realize that EVERY online game opens ports? I was just curious as to why you feel manually opening ports is such a big deal?

UPnP basically does the same thing as doing it manually.

EDIT: As a side note, I feel pub play isn't all that great anyway. Unless you are playing with friends, it's really a smash and grab for loot. It also seems that finding someone with the same level player is really hard, and thus, you end up doing everything yourself with tougher enemies, or your team mate walks over the enemy. Neither of these options are fun. :(

D4mnit

12-07-2009, 10:55 PM

There is plenty of advice, but the issue is that you don't really want to take it. If, for instance you were just technically challenged and wanted someone to walk you through a workaround, then great, we can help you.

Since that is not the route that you wish to take, there isn't too much to say, except that there is supposed to be a patch out soon to alleviate this issue (as long as your router supports UPnP, which most nowadays do).

I guess the real question is: Are you here for help, or did you just create an account to complain? We have plenty of both types, although the latter type usually doesn't fare well in the forums.

People pretty much come here to complain. I just keep telling them solutions are available and let them fight with everyone until they are fed up enough to leave or actually look up a fix. There is nothing more we can do. These topics will be repeated a million times.

In a year this game should be considerably better, due to DLC content and patches. If only they had released the development tools we'd have a much better game, but console thinking prevails with this title.

Unfortunately, 2k has an anti-PC policy so they will not release exact dates on the patch and DLC. I'm sure many people have given up on the PC version of this game and have gone to consoles, just as 2k wanted.

RalphMalph

12-08-2009, 04:47 AM

People pretty much come here to complain. I just keep telling them solutions are available and let them fight with everyone until they are fed up enough to leave or actually look up a fix. There is nothing more we can do. These topics will be repeated a million times.

In a year this game should be considerably better, due to DLC content and patches. If only they had released the development tools we'd have a much better game, but console thinking prevails with this title.

Unfortunately, 2k has an anti-PC policy so they will not release exact dates on the patch and DLC. I'm sure many people have given up on the PC version of this game and have gone to consoles, just as 2k wanted.

Again, if you think that a dedicated PC gamer is going to go buy a console, or even buy a game twice to play on a console to "get DLC & patches quicker" you're deluding yourself and trying to delude the community.

I agree that 2K is a console developer but the rest is just your paranoid little brain working double time.

In short, your conspiracy rap is bull♥♥♥♥ for soft headed people, stop spewing this nonsense forth in EVERY SINGLE thread that you post in.

Chaos Marine

12-08-2009, 04:53 AM

But they do have an anti PC policy. Look at their last few games where you've had the most savagely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DRM ♥♥♥♥ to ever grace PC gaming and even EA, once considered the worst of the lot learned their lesson and they're doing things right, or at least not as badly as they were before.

D4mnit

12-08-2009, 06:40 AM

Again, if you think that a dedicated PC gamer is going to go buy a console, or even buy a game twice to play on a console to "get DLC & patches quicker" you're deluding yourself and trying to delude the community.

I agree that 2K is a console developer but the rest is just your paranoid little brain working double time.

In short, your conspiracy rap is bull♥♥♥♥ for soft headed people, stop spewing this nonsense forth in EVERY SINGLE thread that you post in.

Focus works like this: you focus on something and cease to focus on something else. 2k is pro-console and thus is anti-PC. Consoles get more focus, more time, more news, a more human treatment, but that doesn't mean anything to you and I'm just a conspiracy theorist. Sounds like you are the one with delusions or are in denial. Just because you're a "dedicated PC gamer" doesn't mean everyone has PC's best in mind.

I know people have dropped the PC version, you can see it on the Borderlands official forums, particularly when people say "I uninstalled the PC version and got it on (Insert PS3 or Xbox here)". That tends to be a pretty strong indicator.

This is much like politics where you don't sit down with those responsible on a daily basis to discuss what they are truly thinking, but you can make a fairly precise estimate using their policies and actions as a measuring stick. If you can't do that you lack simple critical thinking skills or are too ignorant to even understand you need to use them.

UniversalCypher

12-08-2009, 09:43 AM

I really don't know how people are having this problem

i really dont know why you posted a reply in this thread..

dont ever reply to anything ever again..

-UC

AdrenoChrome

01-10-2010, 09:15 PM

the few guys who reply positively are just secret dev's trying to firewall their lousy product, don't sweat it. the game has tanked as predicted and i'll be submitting a nonprofit chunk of copy to G4 (for nerds, i'll be sending it to them as an open source doc) so they can use my jokes and lol's had here including the funny to be had by the employees of BL running to the good forums and trying to spin and do damage control. as for steam, it seems like most people have accepted the lyishness of their need to include ad revenue in exchange for the useful friends list and online host listing service. if someone would make a free version of that which included sincere reviews, it would probably replace the monopoly had here.

that being said, steam is just people like everyone else. usually the people who cut the checks are the same ones who have to bring in the actual money to pay those checks, or there wouldn't be a service to begin with. that being said, i'm encouraging whatever lower level staffers in steam who are sent to watch for problem players to have more backbone and faith in the human race, and stand up to them in terms of disingenuous product ads. we all know you're smart enough to know a bait and switch when you play it, but we all support you in needing to manage your employment fears with your integrity. i'd encourage a straight away revolt but honestly, our world punishes some revolts if the power balance is large enough. since the economy is ♥♥♥♥tastic, i would say those who believe in this message and the genuine need for honest advertising (even on the web) and honest ad purchasing should just do what we background proggers have always had to do... program in flaws that are so obvious they penetrate to the larger media and generate an uncontrolled media experience. (after the positive-review grace period currently in force in the game review publication market.)

do your best - even you poor progs who get tasked to put out the fires and cover up the mistakes. you're all people too, and if i had your job, and i have, i'd be just as conflicted as you. little harm, little foul. just don't give up and turn to the dark green side.

D4mnit

01-10-2010, 09:47 PM

I want what you're smoking. There are no Gearbox members here. You're thinking here: http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/forumdisplay.php?f=72

The official forums don't have a million threads with the same title. These forums are just so unmoderated and allow for such useless threads. 1/4 of the threads here are whiner threads that drown out the threads that have solutions, so the majority of players ignore the fixes they can do themselves and whine about how it's not fixed. The only time a mod will step in is if there is a major violation of the rules.

As for your rant on industry; industry is industry. The day we have a 100% honest review from the industry is the day Jesus comes back. As for advertising, they can put whatever they want in an ad. For decades ads have been "dishonest", the entire purpose of an advertisement it simply to get your attention and get you to know a name brand, not to educate you on the ins and outs of the product in detail. No wonder the US has such a terrible education system, everyone is relying on ads!

Have fun with your "revolts". I don't see how that would work since you can't even figure out how to fix something for yourself when the steps are written out in front of you.

jiminator

01-10-2010, 11:35 PM

there are no whiner threads. most of the people that are *not* here complaining may have given up on hosting a game or playing online. It should not be a requirement of a game to search on the internet to "figure out how to make it work". Most people owning the game probably do not know anything about routers, ip addresses, ports and so forth.

sonaho

01-14-2010, 12:24 PM

/singed

I can't join in multiplayer party

I finish game without test multiplayer

jdub

01-14-2010, 12:43 PM

D4mnit, you can try to polish this turd as much as you like, but its not gonna get shiny (mythbusters DID prove you COULD polish a turd, but i digress ;)). I've tried numerous different fixes, from numerous 3rd party networking apps, to config editors to manually setting my router. None of it works consistently. And everyone i game with has given up on this game for the most part. I've heard you only need ports open to host, yet i can't get any friend invites to work but have random pubbies coming into my game. DO NOT BUY!!!!!!For $50 anyways

Walter Matthau

01-15-2010, 09:48 AM

tb87670

01-15-2010, 11:34 AM

Anyone who says this game and it's developers are not at fault for the internet issues is an idiot. No game in my knowledge has this many issues just attempting to see the internet, let alone connect to it. This is a major botch up from the devs and is the last thing I buy from the entire series if they make sequels and even more useless DLC. I played PC games for over 15 years, I am a PC tech and trained as an A+ and CCNA and I can't get this to work online with PROPER PORT FORWARDING. That says something about Gearbox's claim of making this game for 'PC first'.

jdub

01-15-2010, 12:12 PM

What really bothers me is all this "game of the year, best this, best that" hype coming from the console it seems. And nowhere are the issues with PC mentioned. How does this even qualify as an award winning MULTI-PLATFORM game when the advertised MP doesn't even work for a lot of people on one of those platforms?

D4mnit

01-15-2010, 06:27 PM

Lol the reason the GBX forums aren't inundated with gripe threads is that they delete anything that even suggests the game isn't perfect.

I'd rather have a forum that is exploding with dissatisfied customers, than a forum that's misleading me by omitting the complaints of people who are having problems with the game.

Actually any unproductive threads are deleted, as per their forum rules. There are plenty of threads on the official forums that are full of dissatisfaction. The only difference is the Steam forums allow any comment as long as it isn't attacking the (scarce) moderators.

There is much work to be done to gain the trust of the PC community (notice I didn't say regain). I don't know if Gearbox will be doing that work, but we'll just have to wait and see.

JoeKnowMo

01-16-2010, 05:57 AM

If by "unproductive threads" you mean any threads criticizing gearbox and their failures, then yes, unproductive threads are deleted over there. Meanwhile every unproductive thread made by a kid who has never played an rpg praising the game is left untouched.

*Twiddles thumbs waiting for the phantom patch with uPnP that was supposed to be in certification ages ago*

caddux

01-16-2010, 09:45 AM

Not multiplayer. :o

Although I only bought it because of single player. So it doesn't matter to me if it's not multiplayer. But then again, if it doesn't have a multiplayer it should cost less.

kufooru

01-16-2010, 10:10 AM

Actually any unproductive threads are deleted, as per their forum rules. There are plenty of threads on the official forums that are full of dissatisfaction. The only difference is the Steam forums allow any comment as long as it isn't attacking the (scarce) moderators.

So THAT's what they call those types of threads. Pointing out a games faults, that they may be corrected in the future hardly sounds "unproductive" to me, but I guess I'm alone in that regard.
As per your claim about Steam forums: oh yeah? Try saying the name of a certain continent starting with the letter E and the word pricing, both in the same sentence. I guess they must consider that as attacking too.
And as for this thread, I agree that Borderlands is one of the worst multiplayer games in recent years (in terms of functionality). Since it's release (and I got it upon release) I was able to successfully host and play this game with friends once, AND ONLY ONCE, and even that was before any patches were even out. Considering all the trouble like 3/4 of the people who bought Borderlands are having, that's some ♥♥♥♥ing achievement, yet for some reason I'm neither glad nor happy about it.
But hey, here's to hoping that somewhere in the future, we all might be able to play Borderlands online(though we'll most likely see a sequel before that happens :rolleyes:)

Bullet333

01-16-2010, 04:38 PM

I do have alot of problems with multiplayer, but there is some servers that acutally work. You have to be patient and figure out how to find them. I usually keep refreshing until I find a server that has 2 slots available, because that means someone else connected which means I should be able to as well.

It does need to be fixed though...All this port forwarding is a stupid idea especially for those of us who cannot change their routers config.

RangerXML

01-16-2010, 06:24 PM

*sign* I want my money back and my friend is beginning to think the same way.

RSHabroptilus

01-17-2010, 01:49 AM

NOT MULTIPLAYER.

Shame on Gearbox for releasing an unfinished product and then charging for DLC right after INSULTING VALVE. Gearbox, you will NEVER be Valve. Hmph.

Bullet333

01-17-2010, 05:22 PM

The Vault is a lie.

Valyrius

01-17-2010, 05:50 PM

I can understand the game being released like this. There are a lot of problems that can't be completely captured and resolved prior to a full release.

I'm irritated because its been 3 months now, and so many people are still having this problem. And port forwarding would be fantastic... if I had access to my network's settings which unfortunately, I don't. And my request to have those port setting changes implemented was denied. I have also not had problems with one single online multiplayer game other than Borderlands. Every other multiplayer game that I've purchased and play, worked out of the box.

So I'm left with some serious buyer's regret here. Sad because this game would have been worth every penny of $50 if it just had properly functioning multiplayer.

AdrenoChrome

10-14-2010, 03:26 PM

Mocking Asp

10-14-2010, 06:12 PM

I...uh...don't know if anyone else had this problem, but I figured out that if I go to Play Online and DON'T select a character I've already played and leveled up, it'll automatically select me as a lvl 1 Roland. Few if any games will show up as available as the game tries to find other people who are at the same level.

The higher level you are, the more game servers you'll find. I felt silly that it took me a month or two to figure out.

drjueves

10-14-2010, 08:20 PM

I literally did nothing other than allow Borderlands through Windows Firewall, and I've only had connection issues on about 10% of the games I've joined. Still not a great track record, but I'm playing on a subpar wireless connection, so I wasn't expecting much. Gamespy is pretty terrible, nonetheless. If this game wasn't such a blatant console port, I'd like it a lot more than I already do.

But.. single player in 2010? Archaic.

Please tell me you're joking or that I'm misinterpreting this somehow.

chEmicalbuRn

10-15-2010, 05:21 AM

simple issue. its your fault if you cant do this, not the games.

look in the stickies for this forum.

open the correct ports in your router and forward them to your PC lan IP.

if needed allow thru Win firewall.

Nitronumber9

10-15-2010, 07:02 AM

A failed multiplayer product.

In the lull-period between L4D's 2nd expansion (L4d3), I'm seeing some friends die of boredom and go play some solo Borderlands. I look on, chat with them, glancing at my BL icon.

Just a final post that multiplayer was pumped in the adverts, and has died as a failed multi product. Huge player base all uniformly dissatisfied. This is a black mark.
Co op games have one problem that always makes me miss the multiplayer, dimwitted kids with no idea how teamwork... works... Unlike L4D 1-2 where I have to spend a few hours getting people together to get even a slightly enjoyable game because the bots are useless and public players have as much clue as a wall. Borderlands on the other hand I can start off a game, find some players and have fun. Ok sure gamespy is as great as a broken doorstop. But otherwise the games a far more enjoyable experience, you just need someone with a decent upload rate.