Codemasters F1 2010 on Steam

[scifihistory]

It would be great to see Codemaster's F1 2010 for PC on Steam ;)

Any votes?

[fridster]

The only foreseeable reason that Codemasters won't release it on steam is if they decide to scrap the PC version all together. I hope Dirt 2 sells well and that interest in Codemasters PC racing games continues. I worry, because Dirt 2 is about 12 hours from release but has yet to make it on steam's top sellers list from what I've seen.

Hopefully that will change after release and that we will see future titles like F1 2010.

[headcrabCAKE]

Yes please.

[Gumz]

Thought it would be a good time to resurrect this seeing as how the first screens have appeared:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4422286608_05022d3ef2_o.png

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4422286522_219c28954a_o.png

Looks amazing. I'm ready to pre-order :)

[gimpymoo]

You know it uses Game For Windows: Live Right?

[Gumz]

Yes but I personally don't have any issues with it, not to say I like it though.

Lack of dedicated servers is what bothers me most, but expected as much from a Codemasters racer.

[Salaminizer]

I wonder if Codemasters will ever drop GFWL...

[Purple44]

I wonder if Codemasters will ever drop GFWL...

I was hoping Codemasters would too:

Shame on Codemasters for turning a deaf ear to the online racing community, Helios confirm F1 2010 will use GFWL. Look like GIRD will be my last Codemasters game:

Repost form F1 forum, " WHY Codemasters, why are you using Games for Windows LIVE? (http://community.codemasters.com/forum/f1-2010-game-1316/410059-why-codemasters-why-you-using-games-windows-live-10.html) "

I thought I updated this thread when I updated Facebook, but yes F1 2010 will be using GFWL on the PC.

Please Helios, tell us why Codemasters has decide to stick with "Games for Windows LIVE" after all the complaints and problems GFWL cause with DIRT 2?

F1 racing is popular around the world, so why would Codemasters use a program that block over 166 countries from racing online? And is going to cost you PC sales and a lot of headaches dealing with corrupted savegames files and delaying the first PC patch by a month while Microsoft certify the patch? ( DIRT 2 first and only patch, took 3 months to get release, GIRD first patch only took 5 weeks, second patch a month later )

Yes the patch will have to go through Microsoft Submission and Testing just like it would if it was a Xbox 360 game.
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/dirt-2-tech-support-1317/401137-sli-please-codies-some-news.html

It seem the PS3 is the only gaming platfrom that is safe to use world wide. Even the Xbox 360 is getting block from racing online if sold in an unsupported country.

There got to be a better solution than GFWL, that will help protect games from being pirated, but still let paying customers race\shoot\play online.

Will Codemasters print on the PC box and Steam download page this time around, that if live in country not supported by "Games for Windows LIVE", you will not be able to go online and race or get DLCs?

Will Codemasters make it clear to buyers before they buy F1 2010, that if they have the misfortune to live in a country that Microsoft will never support ( been 3 years and Microsoft has not added any new countries to their supported country list of 26 ), Microsoft will block you from racing online. Codemasters did not do this with DIRT 2, so many players got ripoff of there hard earn $40-$70 when they bought DIRT 2, then LIVE block them from online racing! :(



To the Live Team:

What is the current situation in bringing Live to South Africa?

We have been given the same story for over 3.5 years now with still nothing concrete, and no hint of Live coming anywhere near us:

2006-08-22: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/22/xbox-360-invades-south-africa-next-month/

2007-05-09: http://www.news24.com/Content/SciTech/News/1132/7123d58d8cf14e66b9be56cecfe836ad/09-05-2007-11-02/Xbox_Live_set_to_roll_out_in_SA

2007-11-19: http://www.news24.com/Content/SciTech/News/1132/be4eb656c9ee46038c575b999e602f79/19-11-2007-12-04/Xbox_Live_keeps_SA_in_limbo

2008-01-16: http://www.lazygamer.co.za/xbox-360/no-xbox-live-for-south-africa/

2009-10-15: http://www.xboxgaming.co.za/news/xbox-live-to-launch-sooner-rather-than-later-in-south-africa/

Additional Reading:

* http://www.sayyoursay.com/Xbox360/
* http://www.sayyoursay.com/Xbox360/Xbox_Reply.aspx

As consumers, should we stop waisting our time, and money, and start supporting other gaming systems? WebAfrica will be launching a full mirror Steam server here next week, so Valve obviously can see a market.

What we're asking for is relatively simple, we're not wanting all the bells and whistles that come with XBox Live, but what we want is a South African gamertag, access to DLC, and access to multiplayer.

Wii's Network and the PSN are both available here, we even have iPhone stores and support from Apple.

We're tired of the same responses, please respond with something worthwhile so that we can either know that waiting for Live is on its way, or we can take our attention elsewhere and start supporting a system that supports us as a community.

I know I've created a seperate thread on this, I've done this as I can see this post getting lost, and then overlooked, in this thread.

Thank you.



NON-LIVE SUPPORTED COUNTRIES POST (http://forums.gamesforwindows.com/t/2848.aspx?PageIndex=18)


I will never, ever buy a "Games for Windows LIVE" game again!!!! Please Codemasters, see the light and let all of us race online.

[think123]

are there any news if f1 2010 will be released on steam?

[VividNinjaScar]

It will be. Dirt 2 used GFWL as well and was for sale on Steam. F1 2010 will be as well. The only way it wouldn't is if Valve stopped hosting GFWL games, being they are competitors and all now.

[Gumz]

C'mon with the preorder.. Play.com have had it available for like 2 weeks now. Good ol' Steam.

[shivars]

Any news on this - I've preordered from Amazon now but will happily cancel and order through Steam if they make it available...

[micky_miranda]

yeah really interested in this title :D

[aelohin]

Yes but, When?, When? :confused: :o :eek:

[Dokioto]

I would find Puple44 here:p

Still no news on when this game will be up on Steam- At this point I don't give a hoot if it does use GFWL or not, i just want it on steam!

[Sannan75]

Still no news on when this game will be up on Steam- At this point I don't give a hoot if it does use GFWL or not, i just want it on steam!

Me too, just want to see F1 2010 on Steam asap regardless of everything else.

[Dokioto]

Still nothing.. Sigh

[SunriseDriver]

Oh again this crap. Not all games must be on pre-order months before the release. Victoria II wasn't on pre-order at all but was released yesterday.

Calm down.

[Dokioto]

I think every one here is calm. Your the one that needs to chill, or grow up- One or the other.

This crap? If you think it's crap you might as well not post.;)

[SunriseDriver]

You're new here but I'm tired of "When the game X is coming to Steam". I understand if the game is released but usually people ask long before the release.

I think you need to grow up and understand that F1 is coming in 1 month and 1 week so there's no need for the game to be on pre-order so early.

[Dokioto]

Just because I have 3 posts doesn't mean I'm new- I have had steam accounts much longer then this, and don't go around on the forums trolling.

Turns out someone agreed with me as your now Banned:D
(were banned anywhoo)

[shivars]

ok on this URL below the community manager of the Codemasters forums has said that it *will* be on Steam:
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/f1-2010-game-1316/420268-anti-piracy-playing-two-pcs.html

the next question is...how soon can we give them our money and preorder it!

[Dokioto]

Awsome!

[SunriseDriver]

Turns out someone agreed with me as your now Banned:D
(were banned anywhoo)
Wrongfully banned.

[Dokioto]

I'm sure:rolleyes:

[shivars]

You're new here but I'm tired of "When the game X is coming to Steam". I understand if the game is released but usually people ask long before the release.

I think you need to grow up and understand that F1 is coming in 1 month and 1 week so there's no need for the game to be on pre-order so early.

I think the enthusiasm/concern is as much about *whether* it will be on Steam at all as *when*.

I for one am keen to get proper confirmation of (a) that it will be on steam, and (b) that it will support Steamworks enough to have achievements.

Some games are listed as coming soon 10 months before release (before they can be purchased), I don't think its unreasonable to ask the question about F1 2010.

Materially, it also makes a difference; if we don't know that its coming on Steam (or what the Steam release date is) then we will inevitably pre-order elsewhere. The forums are an avenue to express to anyone at Valve or Codemasters who might be looking that we are keen to buy it here.

[SunriseDriver]

Why I was unbanned then? You only have 6 posts and already thinking that you know everything here?

Someone agreed with you? LOL. I can't get ban for what I said in this topic. You have too much ego.

[VividNinjaScar]

I for one am keen to get proper confirmation of (a) that it will be on steam, and (b) that it will support Steamworks enough to have achievements.


It will be on Steam, if not at launch, then close to after.

It will not support Steamworks, F1 2010 is a GFWL only title.

[upr1z3]

Im bumping this cause I want this game. Go mark webber!!

[Gumz]

C'mon with the pre-order. I want to pre-load this game before release.

[joyu12]

Lads, some good news, according to the official Twitter page we might be able to preorder soon! http://twitter.com/Formula1game/status/21571886007

Quoted text for you lazy folks:
"@NealRayner We're very close to getting our F1 2010 game page up on Steam, you'll be able to purchase it there soon."

[mr2shim]

How does steam preload work?

[XeroXray]

DiRT 2 didn't pre-load, seems like this game won't either.

[fridster]

http://twitter.com/Formula1game/status/22082363463

Looks like preload will be available after all. Unless that winky face means otherwise.

[mr2shim]

It will be preloaded, confirmed on codemasters F1 2010 forum.

[FelipeRRM]

It's here!!!

And uses STEAM ACHIEVEMENTS!!

That means it supports Steamworks!

So we can also expect the multiplayer to take advantage of the friends feature!!

WOULD BE SO AWESOME !

[SunriseDriver]

WTF Codemasters??? Another game with forced Steam virus?

Probably I'll turn into console side soon. Thanks a lot Steam.:(:(

[hsvhoon]

You do realise that console gaming is even more closed down than Steam right?

[fridster]

WTF Codemasters??? Another game with forced Steam virus?

Probably I'll turn into console side soon. Thanks a lot Steam.:(:(

You don't even know if the game is Steam only or not. The picture of the PC cover shows it's GFWL. I am a bit confused by this, a game with both Steam and GFWL achievements and leaderboards? Will we connect online through GFWL or Steam?

I assume that it's still GFWL, but they we're able to implement some aspects of steamworks in it as well. In that case, you won't need steam anyhow, just GFWL, if you buy a boxed version. They would have announced a long time ago if this was steam only, because in my book, it would be a good thing.

[SunriseDriver]

You do realise that console gaming is even more closed down than Steam right?
Yes I realize. I also realize that PC is open platform and shouldn't be limited to one digital system where you only rent games.

On a console I can't expect much but on PC I expect to have a choise to buy the game with Steam or without.

I am a bit confused by this, a game with both Steam and GFWL achievements and leaderboards? Will we connect online through GFWL or Steam?
Mafia II and Rogue Warrior supposed to use GfWLive but then they turned onto Steam. No need for rage yet but still...

P.S. GRID was awesome without Steam or Live. Why can't they release the game without any system? PC <> console.

[XeroXray]

Well Helios has clarified in this post (http://community.codemasters.com/forum/f1-2010-game-1316/424986-will-pc-multiplayer-separated-into-2-parts-2.html#post6426921) that the game "is a GFWL title whether you buy it at retail or on Steam". Alright.

[_jema987]

Helios has clarified that the game "is a GFWL title whether you buy it at retail or on Steam".

Its nice when a publisher tells you to save your money prior to release, ta!

[Dark Light]

I just hope that in the UK this game will be priced at the same price as retail, or lower, on Steam. This is a UK game so why should Steam UK be more then Steam US.

[Transmeta]

It should be fine, it's showing as 35 pounds on the F1 store. Funnier still is the UK gets it 2 days after North America. :P

[Dark Light]

Its £19.74 from ShopTo.

http://www.shopto.net/PC/VIDEO%20GAMES/PCFO11-Formula%20One%202010%20F1.html

Best way to find where it is the cheapest, http://www.gamestracker.com.

[shivars]

Now available for purchase - w00t!

[FelipeRRM]

Ooohh no, not GFWL.

This menas dead MP after some weeks =[

They should have chosen Steamworks instead of this crap.

[hellboy_1991]

Ooohh no, not GFWL.

This menas dead MP after some weeks =[

They should have chosen Steamworks instead of this crap.

GFWL ain't that bad, we use it for Dirt 2 and I love it actually.

[SunriseDriver]

They should have chosen Steamworks instead of this crap.
Kane & Lynch 2 uses Steam and MP is almost empty already.

It depends on game and how good is MP, not on 3rd party system.

P.S. It shouldn't use any like GRID.

[VividNinjaScar]

Ooohh no, not GFWL.

This menas dead MP after some weeks =[

They should have chosen Steamworks instead of this crap.

Bad games have dead MP. Good games do not. Halo 2 was the first GFWL game, it came out in 2007. It still has a very vibrant community. The same can be said for Shadowrun, which came out around the same time, although it includes 360 players.

[Gumz]

€40.99? Instant pre-order!

Well done Codies for not ripping us off with some 55 or 60 quid price tag! Other developers take note!

[Hawk777th]

Why is it only 35 bucks? Worries me...

[Gumz]

Why is it only 35 bucks? Worries me...

Because F1 isn't that popular in the US so they've made it cheaper on the US Steam than the EU etc.

Official PlayStation Magazine gave it 9/10 so it is a great game for sure, Codemasters have just given great pricing on Steam (more like regular stores an online shops).

Can't wait.

[Gaiajohan]

Why is it that Steam can't be cheaper than shops selling it retail?
I preordered it for €31.45 in an online Dutch (no Asian) store.

Just like Mafia2 which I preordered for €31.45 as well, but on Steam it was €49.99

[Gumz]

I think the extra cost is supposed to be for the Steam service or something, it's BS I know.. it should be the same price as in shops as far as I'm concerned as a consumer, but at least Codemasters aren't following the herd of developers with their usual sky-high prices with this game.

It's kinda funny though how DiRT 2 is still more expensive (EUR 49.99)... even though it was on sale not long ago.

[Gaiajohan]

I think the extra cost is supposed to be for the Steam service or something, it's BS I know.. it should be the same price as in shops as far as I'm concerned as a consumer, but at least Codemasters aren't following the herd of developers with their usual sky-high prices with this game.

It's kinda funny though how DiRT 2 is still more expensive (EUR 49.99)... even though it was on sale not long ago.

Makes a bit sense with games from Codies. But even then it's bs indeed. As in a store people work for X amount an hour. Steam is just servers with several maintainers and some other guys. But their client base is 1000x as big..

But mafia2 for example must always be installed in Steam. Also the retail version. So there's no reason then why the retail version is much cheaper.

[upr1z3]

Steam can't sell cheaper than retail, cause retail stores still sell a large portion of PC games, and obviously all console games. If retails get mad, they will stop selling games which is not what publishers/developers want.

But ♥♥♥♥ yeh! Its finally available on Steam. Shame its GFWL though

[Ardbug]

Ouch .... GFWL.

[simonjames1975]

It's here for pre-order, YAY. I can't wait for this to come, I've wanted a decent F1 game for ages and this may just be the one.

Without trying to derail this thread too much,

Don't mind GFWL, I've only had 3(Batman:AA, Dirt2 and WH40K) games tied to GFWL and never had any issues with it.

Why is there so much hate for it ?

[Retailnothx]

Don't mind GFWL, I've only had 3(Batman:AA, Dirt2 and WH40K) games tied to GFWL and never had any issues with it.

Why is there so much hate for it ?



Try playing Bioshock 2 MP on pc, then come back and tell me about GfWL.
I've never seen such a bad 3rd party system.

[hellboy_1991]

Just pre-ordered, I'm a huge Formula 1 fan (I try to go as many circuits in real life as I can to watch the races there :D), so this game is totally worth it for me.

[VividNinjaScar]

Try playing Bioshock 2 MP on pc, then come back and tell me about GfWL.
I've never seen such a bad 3rd party system.

Played it and loved it.

Only problem was the laggy game. Once you alt+tabbed and came back it was fine until you quit. That isn't a problem with GFWL.

[shivars]

I had no problems with Bioshock 2 or any other GFWL game. I understand peoples' frustration about the limited countries supported.

Personally I like it; achievements linked to my XBox profile (Steam, XBox and PS3 all synced to Raptr.com) - its all good!

Edit: this includes Bioshock multiplayer (and a *lot* of DIRT2 multiplayer) never had a problem. Actually the whole friend/party thing in DIRT2's multiplayer with GFWL I found really good; nice and painless with four of us all with PCs together racing online :)

[SunriseDriver]

Try playing Bioshock 2 MP on pc, then come back and tell me about GfWL.
I've never seen such a bad 3rd party system.
With Steam it would be better? I repeat - it depends on developer, not system. Play AvP MP or Dreamkiller or MW2 (Steamworks games) and tell me then about Steam.

GTA IV uses Live and it has one of the best and enjoying MP system.

[FelipeRRM]

Try playing Bioshock 2 MP on pc, then come back and tell me about GfWL.
I've never seen such a bad 3rd party system.

I bought this and have been trying to play it since, without success.

[daifel]

Does anyone knows when the preload is available?

[fridster]

Does anyone knows when the preload is available?

Depends on where you live. In the US it's listed as Sept 21st and for the UK it's Sept 24th. Not positive about anywhere else.

Edit: Oops, didn't realize you said preload. Hadn't seen that confirmed, would be nice though seeing as Civ 5 is released the same day in the US, so servers will be quite busy.

[Retailnothx]

With Steam it would be better? I repeat - it depends on developer, not system. Play AvP MP or Dreamkiller or MW2 (Steamworks games) and tell me then about Steam.

GTA IV uses Live and it has one of the best and enjoying MP system.



Yes, it could be different with Steam. Valve sets VAC just the way the publisher ask them, that's why MW2 sucks while any Valve game is great in MP.
Steamworks and VAC are great if the publisher is not an idiot.
GfWL doesn't rely on pushishers' choices, it's always the same.

[Gumz]

Does anyone knows when the preload is available?

Right now, downloading :)