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DanPMK
12-21-2009, 10:43 AM
I've seen several questions and sometimes incorrect answers about some crafting things, so I decided to make a thread about it. Tell me if you'd like more questions to be added! The guide is broken into 3 sections: General, Headgear, and Weapons. Note that this guide containers "spoilers" for crafting recipes, so if you want to discover the recipes yourself, maybe avoid the Weapon section ;).

Now updated with information on the Shogun Update. Also remember to read the Mann-Conomy FAQ (http://www.teamfortress.com/mannconomy/FAQ/) for additional information on the previous update. Additionally, I can't update the thread immediately after every update so remember to check out the official TF2 Wiki (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Main_Page) for more up-to-date information!

General questions

Q. How do I find blueprints?
A. All blueprints are now listed right inside TF2! Just go to the crafting section and find the button to view all the blueprints. Here's two sites that have the blueprints for reference outside of TF2:
Crafting article on the Team Fortress Wiki (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Crafting)
Blueprints page on the TF2 Backpack Examiner (http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php)

Q. Can I find Metal or Tokens from random drops?
A. No. On occasion, the crafting system glitches up and items "fall out" of your backpack. When you play the game next and die, you will re-find the items that fell out, and if any of the items that fell out was a metal, it will show the message that you found metal. For example, this (http://www.tf2items.com/id/MK?time=1280165834) was my backpack, but then, for some reason, some of the items fell out later in the day (http://www.tf2items.com/id/MK?time=1280205455). The next time I played, I "found" all my items, including a Reclaimed Metal. This is only a visual glitch. You cannot actually find Metal.

Q. Can I use Tokens to create things other than weapons or hats?
A. Yes, you can use Tokens to either create new Tokens, or smelt 3 Tokens together to create Reclaimed Metal. Doing the latter is only a net loss of 1⅓ Scrap Metal, so if you have extra it's a good idea. See the links above to learn the blueprints.

Q. Can I turn my Reclaimed Metal back into Scrap Metal?
A. Yes, simply put one Reclaimed Metal in the crafting box and you'll get 3 Scrap Metal back. The same goes for a Refined Metal, which will give you 3 Reclaimed Metal back.

Q. Can I craft or smelt Tools or Action Items?
A. No, Tools (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Tools) such as Crates (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mann_Co._Supply_Crate), Keys (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mann_Co._Supply_Crate_Key), Backpack Expanders (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Backpack_Expander), Name Tags (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Name_Tag), Description Tags (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Description_Tag), and Paint Cans (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Paint_Can) cannot be crafted or smelted into new items, however they are all tradeable to other players and can be found in the item drop system (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Item_drop_system) (with the exception of Keys). The same applies to the Action Item (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Action_slot), the Dueling Mini-Game (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Dueling_Mini-Game).

Headgear questions (Hat and Misc.)

Q. Do Hats and Misc. items drop at the same rate?
A. Yes. They are both considered headgear and both drop at the same rate, far less frequently than weapons.

Q. How many weapons do I need to smelt to make headgear?
A. If you use the "Fabricate Headgear" recipe to create a random hat, it costs a total of 54 items. If you use the "Fabricate Class Headgear" recipe to make a class-specific random hat, it's an additional 21 for a total of 75 weapons.

Q. When I craft 2 headgear, am I guaranteed to get a new headgear, or a headgear I don't have?
A. When you combine 2 headgear, you'll get a headgear different from the two in the recipe, but it's possible to get a headgear you have elsewhere in your backpack.

Q. When I craft 2 Unusual headgear, will the new headgear be Unusual as well?
A. No, so craft with care! Any properties of the headgear you craft, including Unusual, Vintage, and level, are randomized when you create a new hat with them using any method. The only exception to this is being untradeable: If you craft 2 untradeable hats together, or 1 tradeable with 1 untradeable, the resulting hat will be untradeable.

Q. Can I smelt or create Bill's Hat, or other special hats?
A. No. The following special headgears are unsmeltable and uncraftable, and cannot be made, or crafted into new hats:
Hats:
Cheater's Lament (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Cheater%27s_Lament)
Ghastly Gibus (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Ghastly_Gibus) & Ghastlier Gibus (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Ghastlier_Gibus)
Mildly Disturbing Halloween Mask (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mildly_Disturbing_Halloween_Mask)
Bill's Hat (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Bill%27s_Hat)
Max's Severed Head (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Max%27s_Severed_Head)
Alien Swarm Parasite (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Alien_Swarm_Parasite)
Lumbricus Lid (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Lumbricus_Lid)
Mann Co Cap (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mann_Co._Cap)
Ellis' Cap (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Ellis%27_Cap)
Wiki Cap (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Wiki_Cap)
Dealer's Visor (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Dealer%27s_Visor)
Foster's Facade (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Foster%27s_Facade)

Miscellaneous items:
Gentle Manne's Service Medal (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Gentle_Manne%27s_Service_Medal)
Mercenary (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mercenary), Soldier of Fortune (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Soldier_of_Fortune), Grizzled Veteran (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Grizzled_Veteran), & Primeval Warrior (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Primeval_Warrior)
Earbuds (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Earbuds)
Dueling Badges (Bronze (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Bronze_Dueling_Badge), Silver (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Silver_Dueling_Badge), Gold (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Gold_Dueling_Badge), or Platinum (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Platinum_Dueling_Badge))
Polycount Pin (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Polycount_Pin)
License to Maim (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/License_to_Maim)
Dangeresque, Too? (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Dangeresque,_Too%3F)
Bounty Hat (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Bounty_Hat), Treasure Hat (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Treasure_Hat), & Hat of Undeniable Wealth And Respect (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Hat_of_Undeniable_Wealth_And_Respect)
Stockbroker's Scarf (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Stockbroker%27s_Scarf)


Q. Can I trade the Hats and Misc. items listed above?
A. You cannot trade any of the Misc. items, but according to the catalog, you can trade all the Hats except the Halo and the Gibus. You can trade any item if you use Gift Wrap on it, which is purchasable from the Mann Co. Store. Valve seems to change tradeability frequently so check the item description.

Q. I heard you can craft 4 3 Camera Beards to make a Misc Token, and use that to create a Gentle Manne's Service Medal. Is this true?
A. Sadly, it is not. There is no Misc Token in the game's coding, at all. Crafting 3 Camera Beards (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Camera_Beard) would only give you a Spy Token, there is no option to use other blueprints. There is no way to craft a Gentle Manne's Service Medal.

Q. Are there any other ways to get hats?
A. Right now there are a few recipes: Batter's Helmet (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Batter%27s_Helmet) + 2x Bonk! Atomic Punch (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Bonk!_Atomic_Punch) = Bonk Helm (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Bonk_Helm)

The Polycount set hats are also craftable:
Milkman = 4 Refined + [Mad Milk, Shortstop, or Holy Mackerel]
Grenadier's Softcap = 4 Refined +
Attendant = 4 Refined + [Degreaser or Powerjack]
Ol' Snaggletooth = 4 Refined + [Sidney Sleeper or Darwin's Danger Shield or Bushwacka]
Familiar Fez = 4 Refined + [L'Etranger or Your Eternal Reward]


Weapon questions

[B]Q. What is the blueprint for X weapon?
A. There's about a billion weapons now, so if you want you can check out the Weapons (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Weapons) page on the Team Fortress Wiki (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Main_Page), as well as their weapon navigation template (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Template:Allweapons_Nav). Click on a weapon's name and the page will give you all the information you need to find or create it!

Q. How do I get new weapons? Do I need to do achievements?
A. Those weapons which do not have achievements can be obtained in 4 different ways:

Wait for them to randomly drop.
Purchase them from the store.
Craft them using the standard weapon recipe.
Craft them using the special weapon recipes.

Posting every single special recipe would make the post too long, and is no longer necessary since you can view the blueprints in-game now, or on the wiki. Instead, I will only post the blueprints for the most recently added weapons.

First, the RIFT weapons:

Scout's Sun-on-a-Stick = 2 Reclaimed + Boston Basher
Pyro's Sharpened Volcano Fragment = 2 Reclaimed + Axtinguisher


And second, the Shogun weapons:

Scout's Fan O'War = 1 Scrap + Mad Milk
Soldier's Concheror = 1 Scrap + Battalion's Backup
Soldier/Demo's Half-Zatoichi = 1 Scrap + 2 Eyelanders
Spy's Conniver's Kunai = 1 Scrap + Your Eternal Reward


And third, if you need those ingredients:


Boston Basher = Sandman + Tribalman's Shiv
Mad Milk = Reclaimed + Jarate
Battalion's Backup = Reclaimed + Buff Banner
Your Eternal Reward = Reclaimed + Cloak & Dagger


Q. What are the standard recipes? Am I guaranteed to get the weapon I want using them?

If you instead choose to use the standard weapon recipes, it's very simple. The system works using Tokens. You get a Class Token by combining 3 weapons of the same class, or a Slot Token by combining 3 weapons of the same slot. The formula Class Token + Slot Token + Scrap Metal will give you a random weapons for that class and in that slot. Since there are sometimes multiple weapons of the same slot for a given class, it doesn't always give a 100% chance of getting the item you want. It's a gamble.

For example:


Demoman Token + Scrap Metal + ...
Primary = Scottish Resistance or Chargin' Targe or Sticky Jumper (training item) = 33.3~% chance
Secondary = Loch-n-Load = 100% chance
Melee = Eyelander or Pain Train or Scotsman's Skullcutter or Ullapool Caber or Claidheamh Mòr or Half-Zatoichi = 16.6~% chance

Spy Token + Scrap Metal + ...
Primary = see below for slot details
Secondary = Ambassador or L'Etranger = 50/50
Melee = Your Eternal Reward or Conniver's Kunai
PDA2 = Dead Ringer or Cloak & Dagger


Q. The above formula says the Demoman's Sticky unlocks are primary, but they are in slot 2! WHAT'S GOING ON?
A. Even tho in-game the Grenade Launcher is in weapon slot 1, and the Sticky Bomb Launcher is in slot 2, they are in opposite positions in the game's coding, and thus in the game's crafting system. The Grenade Launcher is a secondary weapon, and the Sticky Bomb Launcher is a primary weapon.

To avoid confusion, I strongly suggest referring to the Grenade Launcher as "Slot 1" and the Sticky Launcher as "Slot 2". Additionally, I'd avoid terms such as "Pipes" or "Pipe Launcher" since Valve wanted to further confuse you by using those to internally refer to stickies.

Q. What about the Spy's Ambassador and L'Etranger?
A. As with the Demoman, the Spy's Revolver is a secondary weapon, and should be referred to as being in "Slot 1" instead. The Spy technically doesn't have a primary weapon, see below.

Q. I crafted 4 3 of my Spy watches and got a PDA2 Slot Token. What the heck is that?
A. The Spy watches, not being primary, secondary, or melee weapons, occupy what is called the PDA2 slot in the game. If you craft 3 of them together, you will get the option of making a Spy Token or a PDA2 Token. The Engineer's Destroy Tool is also in this slot.

The PDA2 Token originally had the appearance of a bottle but Valve fixed it a day after the update. Here is what it looks like now. (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/e/e2/Token_pda_large.png) You can use the PDA2 Token to craft another watch, but if you had 3 already that'd probably be a waste. I'd save them, to show them off :P

Q. Is there a PDA1 Token, or other tokens? If so, how do I get them?
A. There were other tokens in the game, including a Grenade Token, a Building Token, and PDA Token, but since there are no weapons you can unlock in those slots, and we cannot obtain them, they were removed. At the moment, the PDA(1) slot is the Engineer's Build Tool and the Spy's Disguise Kit.

Q. What crafting slot is the Spy's Sapper or the Engineer's Toolbox?
A. These items are in the Building slot.

Q. Are there any uncraftable weapons?
A. The following weapons cannot be crafted or smelted:

From the Sam & Max promotion: The Lugermorph and The Big Kill.
From the L4D2 promotion: The Frying Pan.
From Poker Night at the Inventory: The Iron Curtain and the Lugermorph.


Thanks to all of you who posted additional questions and information, and pointing out mistakes. I'd list all of you, but it'd be a chore to update, so check the other posts to see who helped!

The Grue
12-21-2009, 10:45 AM
This is fantastic!!!

Thank you very much for this +1 rep

Hitman7
12-21-2009, 10:49 AM
Perfect. This thread answers dozens of others.

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 10:49 AM
This is fantastic!!!

Thank you very much for this +1 rep

You're welcome :)

Majestic Bean
12-21-2009, 10:50 AM
Grenade token? Really? That implies a return of TFC's grenades, and that isn't a small thing...

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 10:53 AM
Grenade token? Really? That implies a return of TFC's grenades, and that isn't a small thing...

It may be a joke sent to people looking at the code, like the MMO joke the pulled when item levels came out:
//TF2 MMO
"TF_MMO_LFG" "Looking For Group"
"TF_MMO_Quest1" "You must kill %s1 %s2 to complete this quest."
"TF_MMO_Monster1" "Boars"
"TF_MMO_Monster2" "Rats"
"TF_MMO_Monster3" "Bats"
"TF_MMO_Monster4" "Wolves"
"TF_MMO_Monster5" "Spiders"

The relevant code, from tf_english.txt:
"CI_T_S_1" "Slot Token - Primary"
"CI_T_S_2" "Slot Token - Secondary"
"CI_T_S_3" "Slot Token - Melee"
"CI_T_S_4" "Slot Token - Grenade"
"CI_T_S_5" "Slot Token - Building"
"CI_T_S_6" "Slot Token - PDA"
"CI_T_S_7" "Slot Token - PDA2"
"CI_T_S_8" "Slot Token - Head"

SR69MMJC
12-21-2009, 11:49 AM
Q: Can Tokens be useful in other ways?
A: No, don't waste your items. (One guy crafted 7 Tokens in a row today, post a tip so people won't waste items...)

Q: Will I find a different hat if I craft two hats?
A: Not guaranteed. The hat you find can be one of the hats you crafted.

risks
12-21-2009, 11:53 AM
Which slot is sticky launcher?

I don't know why ,but it's fing primary not secondary.

webbugt
12-21-2009, 11:53 AM
Please add this:
Q: How do I find new blueprints?
A: You don't need a blueprint to craft something. You just need to know the right combination. After you succsesfully craft an item that way, you will discover a new blueprint. For a complete list of known blueprint combinations head over here: http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php

Btw. Have a +rep =D

CALVe
12-21-2009, 11:58 AM
I've read about the Camera beard don't count towards the Rebuild Headgear recipe. But if I craft 4 Refined Metal + 1 Spy Token, can I get a Camera Beard? I asking this because I already have Camera Beard and looking to craft fedora or billycock.

Drunken F00l
12-21-2009, 12:05 PM
I've read about the Camera beard don't count towards the Rebuild Headgear recipe. But if I craft 4 Refined Metal + 1 Spy Token, can I get a Camera Beard? I asking this because I already have Camera Beard and looking to craft fedora or billycock.

No, see here:
http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 12:14 PM
Which slot is sticky launcher?

I don't know why ,but it's fing primary not secondary.
?????

Q: Can Tokens be useful in other ways?
A: No, don't waste your items. (One guy crafted 7 Tokens in a row today, post a tip so people won't waste items...)

Q: Will I find a different hat if I craft two hats?
A: Not guaranteed. The hat you find can be one of the hats you crafted.
Please add this:
Q: How do I find new blueprints?
A: You don't need a blueprint to craft something. You just need to know the right combination. After you succsesfully craft an item that way, you will discover a new blueprint. For a complete list of known blueprint combinations head over here: http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php

Btw. Have a +rep =D

Thanks guys. Added. Not sure whether to link tf2items or the tf2wiki for a blueprint list. I'll probably add both in a bit. Links to TF2items and the TF2 Wiki added.

bmw2606
12-21-2009, 12:19 PM
im repping him for this, any chance this could get stickied mods?

Chuckpebble
12-21-2009, 12:27 PM
Have something to add to the list. Don't know the answer, but here's the question:

Can Tokens (slot, class) and metal (scrap, refined, etc.) be collected through random drop?

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 12:30 PM
Have something to add to the list. Don't know the answer, but here's the question:

Can Tokens (slot, class) and metal (scrap, refined, etc.) be collected through random drop?

Added; Nope.

Lushmoss
12-21-2009, 12:31 PM
Added; Nope.

Actually, I got a Spy Token through a Random drop.

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 12:32 PM
Actually, I got a Spy Token through a Random drop.

:O Really. Anyone else? *quickly edits*

Hitman7
12-21-2009, 12:32 PM
Probably you crafted one, it didn't work at the time, and later it was dropped to you.

Chuckpebble
12-21-2009, 12:32 PM
Added; Nope.

Q. Can I find Scrap/Reclaimed/Refined Metal or Tokens from random drops?
A. No. During the first day of the update, it showed items people crafted in-game as being "found", causing some confusion. Valve has since corrected this, showing you crafted the item, and didn't find it.

Excellent, this is what I suspected was happening. I appreciate the confirmation.

Lushmoss
12-21-2009, 12:33 PM
I've also seen people get Scrap metal as well, although I cannot confirm if they actually got it or were using that announcement text manipulator.

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 12:34 PM
When I did a few crafts the first day, and the crafting server was down, I found the items much later when the requests went thru. Was this during that time?

(The first time it happened to me, the reception screen locked up the entire GUI, and I had to have the admin kick me from the game to do anything. Couldn't access the menu or console or anything. D: Hasn't happened to me again tho.)

Lushmoss
12-21-2009, 12:36 PM
Probably you crafted one, it didn't work at the time, and later it was dropped to you.

No, I don't think that happened...

Ah, now I remember. That might've been what happened, and I assumed it didn't craft because my game crashed on me as I pressed the button. Cheers.

adiggity
12-21-2009, 12:37 PM
I At the moment, the PDA slot is the Engineer's Build Tool and the Spy's Disguise Kit.


While that may be true, it might be worth mentioning that crafting a slot token with the Dead Ringer or C&D will produce a PDA slot token.

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 12:39 PM
While that may be true, it might be worth mentioning that crafting a slot token with the Dead Ringer or C&D will produce a PDA slot token.

I don't understand. Can you rephrase that?

Echturn
12-21-2009, 12:40 PM
You can get metal from random drops. It's got about the same drop rate, maybe a higher drop rate, as regular items do.

Lushmoss
12-21-2009, 12:41 PM
I don't understand. Can you rephrase that?

He means that Engie PDA Tokens can be crafted using watches, I presume.

SR69MMJC
12-21-2009, 12:42 PM
:O Really. Anyone else? *quickly edits*
I saw two players found Scrap Metal.
Note that they FOUND it, not CRAFTED it, these situations happened after Valve made a special "X has crafted" message.

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 12:42 PM
He means that Engie PDA Tokens can be crafted using watches, I presume.

I think he's confused because the PDA2 token looks like a demolish tool. I should link a picture.

Chuckpebble
12-21-2009, 12:42 PM
I've also seen people get Scrap metal as well, although I cannot confirm if they actually got it or were using that announcement text manipulator.

Here's what I did. I had 2 each of the spy watches. On the night of the update, I tried twice to combine only three for some metal, and then all four for a spy token. Each time I got a message about a server being unavailable.

I played, received through random drop a scrap metal and later a spy token.

I checked my back pack the next day. I had the spy token, no watches and no metal from random drop.

These things lead me to believe that every time I attempted to combine the items, the system attempted to give me the result in random drop. Ultimately, only the last combination I did stuck, combine four watches for spy token.

By no means conclusive, but hope that helps.

Cpt.Obvious
12-21-2009, 12:44 PM
sticky plox!

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 12:44 PM
I saw two players found Scrap Metal.
Note that they FOUND it, not CRAFTED it, these situations happened after Valve made a special "X has crafted" message.

That pretty much confirms it. Anyone else who can confirm this, please do so.

Lushmoss
12-21-2009, 12:46 PM
Here's what I did. I had 2 each of the spy watches. On the night of the update, I tried twice to combine only three for some metal, and then all four for a spy token. Each time I got a message about a server being unavailable.

I played, unlocked a scrap metal and later a spy token.

I checked my back back the next day. I had the spy token, no watches and no metal from random drop.

These things lead me to believe that every time I attempted to combine the items, the system attempted to give me the result in random drop. Ultimately, only the last combination I did stuck, combine four watches for spy token.

By no means conclusive, but hope that helps.

Hmm. Not what happened to me with my scrap metal attempts, but possibly with my token.

Unfortunately, I've crafted so much I can't remember how much I used for what.

nielsenj
12-21-2009, 12:59 PM
Excellent, thank you for the info.

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 01:09 PM
Excellent, thank you for the info.

You're welcome. Be sure to spread the right answers... people often unknowingly spread misinformation.

Beast Master
12-21-2009, 01:45 PM
Thanks for the guide.

ardysqrrl
12-21-2009, 01:49 PM
I can also confirm that class tokens occasionally drop randomly. NOT through crafting.

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 01:55 PM
Thanks for the guide.
You're welcome :D

I can also confirm that class tokens occasionally drop randomly. NOT through crafting.
Thanks~

SR69MMJC
12-21-2009, 01:57 PM
Q. Can I find Scrap/Reclaimed/Refined Metal or Tokens from random drops?
A. Yes, you can.
Reclaimed/Refined Metal drop hasn't been confirmed by anyone.
I read forums, many users said they've seen Scrap Metal drops (and I've seen 2 drops), but not Reclaimed/Refined ones.

DanPMK
12-21-2009, 02:00 PM
Reclaimed/Refined Metal drop hasn't been confirmed by anyone.
I read forums, many users said they've seen Scrap Metal drops (and I've seen 2 drops), but not Reclaimed/Refined ones.

Bah, thanks x_X

DanPMK
12-22-2009, 12:54 AM
Bumping to first page incase anyone can add new questions today.

ElectroSurge
12-22-2009, 12:59 AM
I'd like to see this stickied. +Rep!

square
12-22-2009, 02:58 AM
I have a new Q: can the Soldier's Gunboats be crafted?

as far as I know the answer is no

jarstar
12-22-2009, 03:02 AM
Thank you for the answers!

Btw, the format and title of this thread look awfully familiar, but I won't press charges or nothing :)

_S_E_R_G_
12-22-2009, 03:05 AM
thanks
+rep

DanPMK
12-22-2009, 03:07 AM
I have a new Q: can the Soldier's Gunboats be crafted?

as far as I know the answer is no

Added. You can; see the first post.

Thank you for the answers!

Btw, the format and title of this thread look awfully familiar, but I won't press charges or nothing :)

Oh? I made it from scratch. Green text isn't exactly innovative :P

thanks
+rep

You're welcome

DanPMK
12-23-2009, 01:24 AM
Updated with the new update. <_>

ardysqrrl
12-23-2009, 03:08 PM
"but to get a Soldier Token in the first place you'd need 4 extra soldier weapons, so it may be best to wait for them to drop." <= this isn't entirely true anymore with the new blueprints to convert between token types.

DanPMK
12-23-2009, 03:54 PM
"but to get a Soldier Token in the first place you'd need 4 extra soldier weapons, so it may be best to wait for them to drop." <= this isn't entirely true anymore with the new blueprints to convert between token types.

Thanks for catching that, I fixed it

Welshie
12-23-2009, 04:34 PM
Just to add to this, slot tokens are in the drop system, i got a melee slot token in a drop.

This makes it seem like one could get a PDA1 or grenade slot token.

DanPMK
12-24-2009, 05:25 AM
Just to add to this, slot tokens are in the drop system, i got a melee slot token in a drop.

This makes it seem like one could get a PDA1 or grenade slot token.

Nah, they wouldn't add those items to the system. Can anyone else confirm slot/class token drops?

Bumping to first page after seeing more threads started about questions answered here.

Updated due to the new requirements for "Smelt Class Weapons".

Phosphorus
01-01-2010, 01:52 PM
I would just like to say that I received a Scout class token, even though I did not craft one, since I knew I wouldn't use them.

Flipper Dipper
01-01-2010, 02:16 PM
I've seen several questions and sometimes incorrect answers about some crafting things, so I decided to make a thread about it. Tell me if you'd like more questions to be added!

General questions

Q. How do I find new blueprints?
A. You "find" blueprints when you go to craft something that satisfies the blueprint. You do not need to find or unlock them, you just sort of "reveal" them for later reference. Here's two sites that have the blueprints:
http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Crafting

Q. Can I find Scrap/Reclaimed/Refined Metal or Tokens from random drops?
A. Yes, you can find Scrap Metal drops. Reclaimed or Refined Metal drops have not been confirmed yet, however. Note that during the first day of the update, it showed items people crafted in-game as being "found", causing some confusion. Valve has since corrected this, showing you crafted the item, and didn't find it. Not sure. Need more information.

Q. Can I use Tokens to create things other than weapons or hats?
A. Yes, with the new update you can now use Tokens to create new Tokens. See the links above to learn the blueprints.
A. Nope. Don't make too many unless you're saving up for a later update.

Hat questions

Q. When I craft 2 hats, am I guaranteed to get a new hat, or a hat I don't have?
A. Sort of. TF2 was recently updated: "Recipes can no longer produce items matching any of the items used in the crafting". It sounds like you can still get an item you already have, however.
A. No. It's entirely possible you will get a hat you already have, or even one of the hats you combined! Pretty lame, in my humble opinion; I'd recommend only rebuilding hats if you have a whole lot of extra ones of the same type.

Q. Can I craft my Ghastly gibus, or other special hats?
A. No. The Ghastly gibus, Mildly disturbing Halloween mask, Bill's hat, and Cheater's lament are special hats, and cannot be made, or crafted into new hats. Sorry.

Q. Can I craft my Camera Beards to make Scrap Metal?
A. Yes, as of the new update.

Q. Can I craft my Camera Beards to make new hats?
A. No. The Camera Beard is not considered a hat anymore, but instead is a Misc item like the Gentle manne's service medal. This is why it drops more frequently than hats as well.

Q. I heard you can craft 4 Camera Beards to make a Misc Token, and use that to create a Gentle manne's service medal. Is this true?
A. Sadly, it is not. There is no Misc Token in the game's coding, at all. Crafting 4 Camera Beards would only give you a Spy Token, there is no option to use other blueprints. There is no way to craft a Camera Beard or Gentle manne's service medal.

Q. Can I make a Camera Beard from my old hats?
A. No. There is no Misc Token; see the question above. The good news is that since they are no longer considered hats, they drop with the same frequency as weapons, so you're more likely to get one. There are rumors going around of using 4 Refined Metal + Spy Token to craft them; these rumors are false.

The only real way to do it would be to take 4 Camera Beards, craft a Spy Token, and make a hat that way, which is inadvisable unless you're a gambler and have a ton of extra ones.

Weapon questions

Q. How do I get the Gunboats, the new item for the Soldier? Do I need to do achievements?
A. To get the Gunboats, you can either wait for them to randomly drop, or craft them. You cannot get them from achievements. To craft them, you need to do this:
Soldier Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Buff Banner or Gunboats
This formula gives you a 50/50 chance of getting the Gunboats, or a Buff Banner, but to get a Soldier Token in the first place you'd need 4 extra soldier weapons, so it may be best to wait for them to drop.

Q. I crafted 4 of my Spy watches and got a PDA2 Slot Token. What the heck is that?
A. The Spy watches, not being primary, secondary, or melee weapons, occupy what is called the PDA2 slot in the game. If you craft 4 of them together, you will get the option of making a Spy Token or a PDA2 Token. The PDA2 Token originally had the appearance of a bottle but Valve fixed it a day after the update. Here is what it looks like now. (http://tf2wiki.net/w/images/e/e2/Token_pda_large.png) You can use the PDA2 Token to craft another watch (see below), but if you had 4 already that'd probably be a waste. I'd save them, to show them off :P

Q. Are there other items, like the Gunboats, with only a 50/50 chance to get while crafting?
A. Yup. Here's the rest of them:
Demoman Token + Primary Token + Scrap Metal = Scottish Resistance or Chargin' Targe
Sniper Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Jarate or Razorback
Spy Token + PDA2 Token + Scrap Metal = Cloak and Dagger or Dead Ringer

Q. The above formula says the Demoman's Sticky unlocks are primary, but they are in slot 2! What slots are the Demoman's weapons in?
A. Even tho in-game the Grenade Launcher is in weapon slot 1, and the Sticky Bomb Launcher is in slot 2, they are in opposite positions in the game's coding, and thus in the game's crafting system. The Grenade Launcher is a secondary weapon, and the Sticky Bomb Launcher is a primary weapon. Examples:
Scottish Resistance + Force-A-Nature + 2 other primary Weapons = Primary Token
4 Chargin' Targe = Primary Token (or Demoman Token)
Demoman Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Invalid
Demoman Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Eyelander


Q. What about the Spy's Ambassador?
A. The Spy's Ambassador is a secondary weapon. It is not a primary weapon. Yes, it is in slot 1 in the game, but the loadout says it is secondary, and it is crafted like a secondary weapon. Examples:
Ambassador + Jarate + 2 other secondary weapons = Secondary Token
4 Ambassadors = Secondary Token (or Spy Token)
Spy Token + Primary Token + Scrap Metal = Invalid. There is no unlock for the Electro Sapper.
Spy Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Ambassador
Spy Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Invalid. There is no unlock for the Knife.

Q. Can I craft my extra Spy watches into Scrap Metal?
A. Yes, as of the most recent update. The "Smelt Class Weapons" blueprint now requires 3 weapons from the same class, regardless of slot and allowing duplicates. This effectively makes the "Smelt Primary Weapons" and other 2 slot blueprints obsolete. The petition worked!
A. No. For some reason, the 3-identical-items thing only works for primary, secondary, and melee weapons. The Spy watches do not occupy those weapon slots, and so you cannot use 3 of them to create Scrap Metal. There is a petition on the forums to have Valve implement this, if you'd like to sign: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1074231

Q. Is there a PDA1 Token, or other tokens? If so, how do I get them?
A. There are other tokens in the game, including a Grenade Token, a Building Token, and PDA Token, but since there are no weapons you can unlock in those slots, we cannot obtain them, and they would have the image of a bottle anyway. At the moment, the PDA(1) slot is the Engineer's Build Tool and the Spy's Disguise Kit.

Thanks to all of you who posted additional questions and information, and pointing out mistakes. I'd list all of you, but it'd be a chore to update, so check the other posts to see who helped!

Gratz on sticky

thanks for guide

OluapPlayer
01-01-2010, 04:04 PM
Sorry to ask but, how do you know there's a Grenade Token, a Building Token, and PDA Token?

DanPMK
01-01-2010, 11:45 PM
Sorry to ask but, how do you know there's a Grenade Token, a Building Token, and PDA Token?

First, in team fortress 2 content.gcf\tf\resource\tf_english.txt:

"LoadoutSlot_Primary" "Primary weapon"
"LoadoutSlot_Secondary" "Secondary weapon"
"LoadoutSlot_Melee" "Melee weapon"
"LoadoutSlot_Grenade" "Grenade"
"LoadoutSlot_Building" "Building"
"LoadoutSlot_pda" "Primary PDA"
"LoadoutSlot_pda2" "Secondary PDA"
"LoadoutSlot_PrimaryMod" "Ammo"
"LoadoutSlot_Head" "Head"
"LoadoutSlot_Misc" "Misc"
. . .
"CI_T_S_1" "Slot Token - Primary"
"CI_T_S_2" "Slot Token - Secondary"
"CI_T_S_3" "Slot Token - Melee"
"CI_T_S_4" "Slot Token - Grenade"
"CI_T_S_5" "Slot Token - Building"
"CI_T_S_6" "Slot Token - PDA"
"CI_T_S_7" "Slot Token - PDA2"
"CI_T_S_8" "Slot Token - Head"

And then in team fortress 2 content.gcf\tf\scripts\items\items_game.ctx:
"5012"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Primary"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "primary"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_1"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_primary"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "primary"
}
"5013"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Secondary"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "secondary"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_2"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_secondary"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "secondary"
}
"5014"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Melee"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "melee"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_3"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_melee"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "melee"
}
"5015"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Grenade"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "grenade"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_4"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "grenade"
}
"5016"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Building"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "building"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_5"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "building"
}
"5017"
{
"name" "Slot Token - PDA"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "pda"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_6"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "pda"
}
"5018"
{
"name" "Slot Token - PDA2"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "pda2"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_7"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_pda"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "pda2"
}
"5019"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Head"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "head"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_8"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "head"
}

Incidentally, this is how we learned there is no Misc. slot token.

Gratz on sticky

thanks for guide

Thanks and you're welcome. Didn't need to quote the whole thing tho XD

Elite Soldier
01-02-2010, 11:36 AM
First, in team fortress 2 content.gcf\tf\resource\tf_english.txt:

"LoadoutSlot_Primary" "Primary weapon"
"LoadoutSlot_Secondary" "Secondary weapon"
"LoadoutSlot_Melee" "Melee weapon"
"LoadoutSlot_Grenade" "Grenade"
"LoadoutSlot_Building" "Building"
"LoadoutSlot_pda" "Primary PDA"
"LoadoutSlot_pda2" "Secondary PDA"
"LoadoutSlot_PrimaryMod" "Ammo"
"LoadoutSlot_Head" "Head"
"LoadoutSlot_Misc" "Misc"
. . .
"CI_T_S_1" "Slot Token - Primary"
"CI_T_S_2" "Slot Token - Secondary"
"CI_T_S_3" "Slot Token - Melee"
"CI_T_S_4" "Slot Token - Grenade"
"CI_T_S_5" "Slot Token - Building"
"CI_T_S_6" "Slot Token - PDA"
"CI_T_S_7" "Slot Token - PDA2"
"CI_T_S_8" "Slot Token - Head"

And then in team fortress 2 content.gcf\tf\scripts\items\items_game.ctx:
"5012"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Primary"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "primary"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_1"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_primary"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "primary"
}
"5013"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Secondary"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "secondary"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_2"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_secondary"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "secondary"
}
"5014"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Melee"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "melee"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_3"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_melee"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "melee"
}
"5015"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Grenade"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "grenade"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_4"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "grenade"
}
"5016"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Building"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "building"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_5"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "building"
}
"5017"
{
"name" "Slot Token - PDA"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "pda"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_6"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "pda"
}
"5018"
{
"name" "Slot Token - PDA2"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "pda2"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_7"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_pda"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "pda2"
}
"5019"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Head"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "head"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_8"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "head"
}

Incidentally, this is how we learned there is no Misc. slot token.



Thanks and you're welcome. Didn't need to quote the whole thing tho XD

there may be one in the future, unlikely

but yes, this is is

Juns
01-02-2010, 09:33 PM
I dont get it, grenade token??

smartalco
01-03-2010, 12:20 AM
Alright, I had read a couple weeks ago that they had fixed it so you could craft watches into scrap metal. I finally got around to trying this with my 11 Dead Ringers a couple days ago. I still can't craft these. I get 'no known blueprint'. Any idea why?

satsun
01-03-2010, 05:33 AM
This morning I tried to craft a Direct Hit, Buff Banner, and Equalizer and it wouldn't let me. It's like they reversed whatever they had done on December 31st where you could craft any three of a class's items and get scrap. :(

OluapPlayer
01-03-2010, 09:56 AM
First, in team fortress 2 content.gcf\tf\resource\tf_english.txt:

"LoadoutSlot_Primary" "Primary weapon"
"LoadoutSlot_Secondary" "Secondary weapon"
"LoadoutSlot_Melee" "Melee weapon"
"LoadoutSlot_Grenade" "Grenade"
"LoadoutSlot_Building" "Building"
"LoadoutSlot_pda" "Primary PDA"
"LoadoutSlot_pda2" "Secondary PDA"
"LoadoutSlot_PrimaryMod" "Ammo"
"LoadoutSlot_Head" "Head"
"LoadoutSlot_Misc" "Misc"
. . .
"CI_T_S_1" "Slot Token - Primary"
"CI_T_S_2" "Slot Token - Secondary"
"CI_T_S_3" "Slot Token - Melee"
"CI_T_S_4" "Slot Token - Grenade"
"CI_T_S_5" "Slot Token - Building"
"CI_T_S_6" "Slot Token - PDA"
"CI_T_S_7" "Slot Token - PDA2"
"CI_T_S_8" "Slot Token - Head"

And then in team fortress 2 content.gcf\tf\scripts\items\items_game.ctx:
"5012"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Primary"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "primary"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_1"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_primary"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "primary"
}
"5013"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Secondary"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "secondary"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_2"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_secondary"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "secondary"
}
"5014"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Melee"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "melee"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_3"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_melee"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "melee"
}
"5015"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Grenade"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "grenade"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_4"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "grenade"
}
"5016"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Building"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "building"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_5"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "building"
}
"5017"
{
"name" "Slot Token - PDA"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "pda"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_6"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "pda"
}
"5018"
{
"name" "Slot Token - PDA2"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "pda2"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_7"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/crafting/token_pda"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "pda2"
}
"5019"
{
"name" "Slot Token - Head"
"item_class" "slot_token"
"craft_class" "craft_token"
"item_slot" "head"
"item_type_name" "#TF_CraftItem"
"item_name" "#CI_T_S_8"
"item_description" "#TF_CraftItem_Token_S_Desc"
"image_inventory" "backpack/weapons/w_models/w_bottle"
"image_inventory_size_w" "128"
"image_inventory_size_h" "82"
"item_quality" "unique"
"min_ilevel" "1"
"max_ilevel" "1"
"slot_token_id" "head"
}

Incidentally, this is how we learned there is no Misc. slot token.


Thanks for answearing, mate :)

T3chno
01-03-2010, 11:22 AM
Q. When I craft 2 hats, am I guaranteed to get a new hat, or a hat I don't have?
A. Sort of. TF2 was recently updated: "Recipes can no longer produce items matching any of the items used in the crafting". It sounds like you can still get an item you already have, however.


Yes, you can still get a item you already have. I crafted a dupe Fedora. :(

OluapPlayer
01-03-2010, 11:32 AM
You can create hats you already have, but you can't create hats used in the recipe (if you used a Fedora, you won't get another Fedora when you craft)

notsneaky
01-03-2010, 04:09 PM
3 Refined metals and 1 soldier token... only 27 more weapons to go :)

pyrofessional
01-03-2010, 05:06 PM
probably cOLD, but Smelt Class Weapons doesn't work with Gunboats
for example http://i46.tinypic.com/102p6o8.jpg
EDIT: oh, yea. it's cold. /sorry

Chancellor
01-04-2010, 04:57 PM
Crafting is a good addition to thr game.

Locust 777
01-05-2010, 04:53 AM
hats don't exist there a figment of the imagination... there so rare there like the missing link

cant be found

That 0wner guy
01-05-2010, 05:07 AM
CAMERA BEARD HAS THE SAME DROP RATE AS WEAPONS?! OMGZ NICE!

Zippyduda
01-05-2010, 03:37 PM
Two possible bugs.

Why can I not smelt a FaN, Scottish Resistance and Targe to make Scrap Metal? As they are all Primary Weapons.

Why can I not smelt Bonk, Jarate and Kritzkrieg to make Scrap Metal? As they are all Secondary Weapons according to this:

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Crafting

Does the Targe not count as a Primary and does the Kritzkrieg not count as a Seconday?

ZachIsMad
01-05-2010, 08:50 PM
anyone else believe that making the PDA2 tokens is a good thing, considering paople can get many spy watches, and only really need one that you like. since the token icon is the engis pda, it could be needed for future engie update. sorry if someone brought this up before

borsdy
01-05-2010, 10:36 PM
Looks like I will be playing heavy more now with my newly crafted officer's ushanka! My first hat, the gibus halo and paper bag don't count of course :)

JSK
01-05-2010, 11:33 PM
Hey, I just got the Ushanka randomly yesterday. 18 away from a Sniper hat now crafting.

I do hope they fix the solider setup. Not being able to craft gunboats is kind of annoying. It should function like the Spy watches.

DanPMK
01-05-2010, 11:50 PM
Two possible bugs.

Why can I not smelt a FaN, Scottish Resistance and Targe to make Scrap Metal? As they are all Primary Weapons.

Why can I not smelt Bonk, Jarate and Kritzkrieg to make Scrap Metal? As they are all Secondary Weapons according to this:

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Crafting

Does the Targe not count as a Primary and does the Kritzkrieg not count as a Seconday?

The blueprints call for either 3 identical weapons or 3 weapons from the same class. To smelt a slot token you need 4 of the same slot, not 3.

anyone else believe that making the PDA2 tokens is a good thing, considering paople can get many spy watches, and only really need one that you like. since the token icon is the engis pda, it could be needed for future engie update. sorry if someone brought this up before

I think it's great, I'm gonna make several.

Zippyduda
01-06-2010, 04:13 AM
The blueprints call for either 3 identical weapons or 3 weapons from the same class. To smelt a slot token you need 4 of the same slot, not 3.


Wrong. I can smelt any three primary, secondary or melee items and it will work, only those two combinations do not work.

So I've crafted a Natascha, FaN and Backburner before because they are all primary weapons.

http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php

"Any Primary/Secondary/Melee weapons"

Silv
01-06-2010, 06:44 AM
can i make a soldiers medal by using misc token, soldier token and scrap metal?

lol10801lol
01-06-2010, 09:48 AM
can i make a soldiers medal by using misc token, soldier token and scrap metal?

there is no item like "Misc Token" so you can't :(

RvengefuLobster
01-06-2010, 02:49 PM
Good list but I still have a question. When a weapon or watch is crafted is it always a low level item (ie the same as if you got it through milestone achievements) or is it random leveled?

Silv
01-06-2010, 03:17 PM
there is no item like "Misc Token" so you can't :(

what if i melt melee token with camera beard?

Chancellor
01-06-2010, 11:40 PM
Don't craft your spy watches just yet...

DanPMK
01-07-2010, 12:17 AM
Good list but I still have a question. When a weapon or watch is crafted is it always a low level item (ie the same as if you got it through milestone achievements) or is it random leveled?

Low level, there's no random levels anymore. I wonder if I should add that to the list.

what if i melt melee token with camera beard?

No blueprint.

Silv
01-07-2010, 06:31 AM
Did anyone actually look for 'rare' blueprints, not the obvious ones?, im talking about combining all class tokens with some refined metal. Maybe it is possible to find blueprints in the game code?

Hundred2
01-07-2010, 08:36 AM
How about class token + 2 hats = make a class specific hat.
Dunno if it works. just saying stuff
Someone should try

AroundTheHorn
01-07-2010, 09:10 AM
I emailed Robin four times from four different email accounts on four different days. He responded to two of them. I am the reason he added the spy watches blueprint!

:)

Silv
01-07-2010, 05:07 PM
I emailed Robin four times from four different email accounts on four different days. He responded to two of them. I am the reason he added the spy watches blueprint!

:)

get them to add the option to use the gunboats as well plz, it doesnt craft with pickaxe + pickaxe for class scrap metal

AmYg0
01-08-2010, 05:44 AM
OKi new question! I'm gonna craft 4 refined metal and one class token to get a specific class hat! so this means i can chose between the hats of that class? or a get a random drop out of 3/4 of that class?

OluapPlayer
01-08-2010, 05:50 AM
OKi new question! I'm gonna craft 4 refined metal and one class token to get a specific class hat! so this means i can chose between the hats of that class? or a get a random drop out of 3/4 of that class?

Unfortunatly, no. It only means that the hat will belong to that class.

AmYg0
01-08-2010, 06:03 AM
well in that case that sucks! i really wont the Respectless rubber glove! and crafting 112 items to get a random one and let it be the Pyro's beanie... that will seriously make me throw my pc on the window! i'll just give crafting one shot! and thats it for me!

toString
01-08-2010, 06:32 AM
well in that case that sucks! i really wont the Respectless rubber glove! and crafting 112 items to get a random one and let it be the Pyro's beanie... that will seriously make me throw my pc on the window! i'll just give crafting one shot! and thats it for me!

I did this same thing. Wanted either glove or brigade hat. Got the beanie instead! Nevermind, at least I have a pyro hat at last!

Let me know what you get...

AmYg0
01-08-2010, 06:40 AM
yeah man but there is a lot of time overall at the middle! and this item hunting effort should be awarded better than some randomnes!anyway...i'll try my luck and let u know!

Aleksandar
01-09-2010, 12:47 PM
Ok heres a stupid question.Can you craft Class tokens into scrap metal?

Like 1 Class Token = Scrap metal

AmYg0
01-09-2010, 01:11 PM
no man u can't! the only way u can use class token is to add them slot token plus scrap metal to make in item! but i really dont see the point in this! like crafting 11 items to get an specific item? stupid if u ask me! to waste 11 items for 1 item that u can find the next day! btw! or u can make any class token with class item to make another specific class token! hope this helps! just be brave and craft 4 refined metals so u can chose ure hat class! i just made 2 of them! only 54 items to go to equal another 2 refined metals ^^

Nebhead
01-09-2010, 03:00 PM
I have an addendum to the Camera Beard Smelting:

You can use Camera Beards to create Scrap Metal with the "Smelt Class Weapons" blueprint, for example:

Dead Ringer + Dead Ringer + Camera Beard = 1 Scrap Metal
or
Cloak and Dagger + Camera Beard + Camera Beard = 1 Scrap Metal

And so on.

Nebhead

Aleksandar
01-09-2010, 03:08 PM
no man u can't! the only way u can use class token is to add them slot token plus scrap metal to make in item! but i really dont see the point in this! like crafting 11 items to get an specific item? stupid if u ask me! to waste 11 items for 1 item that u can find the next day! btw! or u can make any class token with class item to make another specific class token! hope this helps! just be brave and craft 4 refined metals so u can chose ure hat class! i just made 2 of them! only 54 items to go to equal another 2 refined metals ^^

Lol i am on my way:D.After few hat crafting fails i deleted my last(hatless) hat cause i was jarateed to heaven.So on i have 2 refined and 2 reclaimed metals and 7 class tokens(which i only need for pyro cause i would simply love to get one of his hats).

AmYg0
01-10-2010, 05:47 AM
I have an addendum to the Camera Beard Smelting:

You can use Camera Beards to create Scrap Metal with the "Smelt Class Weapons" blueprint, for example:

Dead Ringer + Dead Ringer + Camera Beard = 1 Scrap Metal
or
Cloak and Dagger + Camera Beard + Camera Beard = 1 Scrap Metal

And so on.

Nebhead

yes thats because camera is an item now! a decorative item!valve made things wired!

AmYg0
01-10-2010, 05:49 AM
Lol i am on my way:D.After few hat crafting fails i deleted my last(hatless) hat cause i was jarateed to heaven.So on i have 2 refined and 2 reclaimed metals and 7 class tokens(which i only need for pyro cause i would simply love to get one of his hats).

dude what are u doint with 7 class tokens?:D spare ure scrap metal from now on! btw im going for a pyro hat to! hope i get the rubber glove!

Evilcrystal
01-10-2010, 08:30 AM
I'm obsessed XD. i got my first camera beard today, and i have 4 primary weapons. this may have been answered already. But, If I craft a primary slot token with my camera beard, logically, i would get a misc. token. but from looking at the crafting script, there's no Misc. so i'm not sure if I shuld try it...

rellikiox
01-10-2010, 08:55 AM
I'm obsessed XD. i got my first camera beard today, and i have 4 primary weapons. this may have been answered already. But, If I craft a primary slot token with my camera beard, logically, i would get a misc. token. but from looking at the crafting script, there's no Misc. so i'm not sure if I shuld try it...

There is no Misc Token in the game code. It's on the first page...

Seany Orrsum
01-11-2010, 10:03 AM
Is it possible to use a class token and 2 hats to make a class specific hat?

SR69MMJC
01-11-2010, 10:06 AM
Is it possible to use a class token and 2 hats to make a class specific hat?
No .

Seany Orrsum
01-11-2010, 08:29 PM
Lame, I have 2 Fancy Fedora's and I'm not sure if I want to risk them both to make a random hat.

Mookau
01-11-2010, 10:09 PM
Lame, I have 2 Fancy Fedora's and I'm not sure if I want to risk them both to make a random hat.

I want one! ><

Zippyduda
01-12-2010, 08:28 AM
Is there a reason I cannot craft a Bonk, Sandvich and Jarate? They're all secondary weapons.

D4n_i
01-13-2010, 08:40 AM
Q. Can I craft my Camera Beards to make new hats?
A. No.

Yes you can from 81 Camera Beards ;)

SR69MMJC
01-13-2010, 09:17 AM
Is there a reason I cannot craft a Bonk, Sandvich and Jarate? They're all secondary weapons.
You can't craft weapons of different classes..
"Smelt secondary/primary/melee weapons" blueprients make no sense now after we got "Smelt class weapons" blueprient.

Zippyduda
01-13-2010, 09:53 AM
You can't craft weapons of different classes..
"Smelt secondary/primary/melee weapons" blueprients make no sense now after we got "Smelt class weapons" blueprient.

Well that's pretty ♥♥♥♥ing stupid.

On TF2 Items they should take the part down where they say "Any Three Secondary Weapons" as a Blueprint.

Stebazz
01-16-2010, 05:21 PM
'Soldier Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Buff Banner or Gunboats'

What is the secondary token? I have tried heavy and medic token and it just said 'Craft failed:No matching blueprint'

psiwarp
01-16-2010, 05:24 PM
You must smelt 4 secondary slot weapons from any class to make the Secondary Token.

Ex. Kritzkrieg + Flaregun + Jarate + Bonk! = Secondary Token (it's not class specific, that's what the Class tokens are for)

Frapper
01-17-2010, 11:08 AM
Is there a way to undo crafted items, and get back what I used to craft it ?

lord0war
01-17-2010, 11:10 AM
Is there a way to undo crafted items, and get back what I used to craft it ?

No, once you craft something, it's gone for good.

Frapper
01-17-2010, 12:14 PM
http://indietravelpodcast.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/homer-doh-square.jpg

Frapper
01-17-2010, 12:18 PM
D'oh ! That was a huge bummer...

OluapPlayer
01-17-2010, 03:53 PM
I saw this on TF2Wiki today:

"Trying to smelt 4 Camera Beards together will enable the "Fabricate Slot Token" blueprint, but it won't craft because there is no Misc Slot token."

Is it true?

joffeloff
01-19-2010, 04:24 AM
Any roundabout way to get an Engineer token for Engie hats??

SR69MMJC
01-19-2010, 04:26 AM
Any roundabout way to get an Engineer token for Engie hats??
It's not possible to get Engineer token.

tianGO
01-19-2010, 04:44 AM
Q. When I craft 2 hats, am I guaranteed to get a new hat, or a hat I don't have?
A. Sort of. TF2 was recently updated: "Recipes can no longer produce items matching any of the items used in the crafting". It sounds like you can still get an item you already have, however.

I just crafted 2 hats, and got another one I already have.

I know, "random is random", well right now I think "random is ♥♥♥♥".

chuck817
01-21-2010, 03:06 PM
can not smelt Reclaimed Metal into Refined Metal the blue print wont show up any more why

dorko4u
01-21-2010, 03:32 PM
Technically, getting either the Fancy Fedora or the Backbiter's Billycock is a 50/50 chance, even though those are hats.

EleKTriiK.
01-21-2010, 04:29 PM
heyy guys uh just wondering if there is anything u can craft which will let you get bills hat because a friend told me you can and I heard it DROPS too but very very very rare.

Help thx

ellis.

crinkly paper
01-21-2010, 08:42 PM
heyy guys uh just wondering if there is anything u can craft which will let you get bills hat because a friend told me you can and I heard it DROPS too but very very very rare.

Help thx

ellis.

Your friend is a liar. Or misguided... the hat is only available by pre-ordering L4D2. There are apparently cases though where people got it without pre-ordering. That was a while ago though and I doubt it will happen now.

EleKTriiK.
01-21-2010, 10:46 PM
Your friend is a liar. Or misguided... the hat is only available by pre-ordering L4D2. There are apparently cases though where people got it without pre-ordering. That was a while ago though and I doubt it will happen now.

"Well this was a dissapointment!"

sigh.... so theres no way at all i can get it now, i was talking to some guy on a server and he was saying that about 2 days ago he saw about 3 people getting bills hat and apparently they didnt preorder.

Another person said try crafting with a class token and it should work...

I guess i just missed out, but i still have l4d2 not preordered though.Do you think Valve will ever let you be able to unlock Bill's hat?

Anyways what is this trading thing anyway?

crinkly paper
01-22-2010, 12:24 AM
"Well this was a dissapointment!"

sigh.... so theres no way at all i can get it now, i was talking to some guy on a server and he was saying that about 2 days ago he saw about 3 people getting bills hat and apparently they didnt preorder.

Another person said try crafting with a class token and it should work...

I guess i just missed out, but i still have l4d2 not preordered though.Do you think Valve will ever let you be able to unlock Bill's hat?

Anyways what is this trading thing anyway?
When trading comes out I'm sure someone might be able to part with their Bill's hat. You can hope for someone trading it for a hat they really want that you might find. Trading is going to be implemented eventually in an update so it isn't released yet.

EleKTriiK.
01-22-2010, 02:42 AM
When trading comes out I'm sure someone might be able to part with their Bill's hat. You can hope for someone trading it for a hat they really want that you might find. Trading is going to be implemented eventually in an update so it isn't released yet.

Ok thx man any would you mind please explaining why trading actually is plz??
And the relese date of it please

k thx

Aleksandar
01-22-2010, 06:04 AM
It's not possible to get Engineer token.

IS NOT POSSIBLE :)

EleKTriiK.
01-22-2010, 07:18 AM
Does Anyone know any info on the new trading update thing or how it works???
I Wonder if u can trade hats with othe people and ♥♥♥♥

hmm

OluapPlayer
01-22-2010, 08:23 AM
There is no trading yet.

crinkly paper
01-22-2010, 10:55 AM
Ok thx man any would you mind please explaining why trading actually is plz??
And the relese date of it please

k thx

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trading

EleKTriiK.
01-22-2010, 06:02 PM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trading

Lol ♥♥♥♥♥♥
Ty for help -.-

EleKTriiK.
01-23-2010, 04:45 PM
Hmm emailed robin, how did you first hear of trading?

Lead__Magnet
01-24-2010, 05:41 AM
thank you so much valve

Gloubidindon
01-24-2010, 06:14 AM
No one tried 12 refined metal craft ?
No blue prints with more than 4 items ?
With 12 items slots ?

PycBouH
01-24-2010, 06:47 AM
No one tried 12 refined metal craft ?
No blue prints with more than 4 items ?
With 12 items slots ?
Everything that is in game you can craft already. There's no super-uber-unique hat for crafting 12 items. No special medal either.

mreeuwij
01-24-2010, 06:47 AM
the craft a class specific hat is with 5 (4 refined and a class token)

Gloubidindon
01-24-2010, 06:50 AM
Everything that is in game you can craft already. There's no super-uber-unique hat for crafting 12 items. No special medal either.

Well but we can't craft grenade slot (wth with that ?) so maybe the opposite was possible. Of course I do not expect a golden machine gun but maybe 12 refined->4hats...

PycBouH
01-24-2010, 06:55 AM
It's not possible to get Engineer token.

It is possible if you have engineer hats.

mreeuwij
01-24-2010, 07:37 AM
no, you cant use hats to change token

(and yes, I tried with a spare hat)

Frapper
01-24-2010, 03:35 PM
Is there a way to win back what you crafted away ? Just do the achievements over again ?

PycBouH
01-24-2010, 11:35 PM
no, you cant use hats to change token

(and yes, I tried with a spare hat)
Not to change token, to create one.

Frapper
01-27-2010, 10:33 AM
Is there a way to win back what you crafted away ? Just do the achievements over again ?
Anyone ?

Because I crafted away the 100% regenerate clock from Spy, and I really want it back:eek:

crinkly paper
01-27-2010, 11:39 AM
Anyone ?

Because I crafted away the 100% regenerate clock from Spy, and I really want it back:eek:

You can get it back from random drops, if you play a lot or idle you will get it back eventually. Or when trading comes out you will definitely be able to find someone who will trade theirs.

TallHomunculus
01-27-2010, 09:49 PM
There seems to be a new event with crafting. As of today's update, if you try and craft a Class Specific Headgear, your chance of actually getting a class specific hat drops by at least half. This is because the new towers of hats count as all class hats. Keep this in mind if you were thinking of creating a specific hat, as you may find yourself with a Towering Pillar of Hats instead of the Fancy Fedora you may have had your eye on.

0o0o0
01-28-2010, 02:30 PM
There seems to be a new event with crafting. As of today's update, if you try and craft a Class Specific Headgear, your chance of actually getting a class specific hat drops by at least half. This is because the new towers of hats count as all class hats. Keep this in mind if you were thinking of creating a specific hat, as you may find yourself with a Towering Pillar of Hats instead of the Fancy Fedora you may have had your eye on.

This has supposedly been fixed now!

Taliesin
01-28-2010, 04:04 PM
smartass question: what happens if you craft 4 identical weapons? let's say you craft 4 FaN. Do you get a primary token, a secondary token or you have 50%?

SR69MMJC
01-28-2010, 06:14 PM
smartass question: what happens if you craft 4 identical weapons? let's say you craft 4 FaN. Do you get a primary token, a secondary token or you have 50%?
You can choose to craft a primary token or a scout token below the crafting box.

CrazedPorcupine
01-29-2010, 09:48 PM
would it be possible to craft 4 hats into a headgear slot token?

DanPMK
01-30-2010, 07:42 AM
would it be possible to craft 4 hats into a headgear slot token?

No, no hat token (yet)

FunkyBoss
01-30-2010, 01:37 PM
This has supposedly been fixed now!

I've tried crafting a class-specific hat after the patch, and it does indeed work correctly again. I got 4 hats I wanted in less than 24 hours! What ridiculous luck...

Taliesin
01-30-2010, 08:01 PM
You can choose to craft a primary token ok a scout token below the crafting box.

by choosing blueprint, right, silly me.

RockstarMaxx
02-01-2010, 09:56 PM
Oh yeah! might want to add this too the list

"If I use 4 refinded metals and a class token, Do I get to pick which of the 3 hats I would like for that class or does it pick one randomly"

SR69MMJC
02-01-2010, 09:58 PM
"If I use 4 refinded metals and a class token, Do I get to pick which of the 3 hats I would like for that class or does it pick one randomly"
It picks one randomly.

RockstarMaxx
02-01-2010, 09:59 PM
It picks one randomly.

FARRKKKK :(

Edit: I just crafted 3 of my refined metals and got the bald engie hat. :(
Its not fair.

SR69MMJC
02-01-2010, 10:02 PM
FARRKKKK :(
Indeed. Just hope you will be lucky enough to get the hat you want.

RockstarMaxx
02-01-2010, 10:10 PM
Indeed. Just hope you will be lucky enough to get the hat you want.

afraid not :P

Meh, I crafted bald engie and medics mirror and got a Scotmans stove pipe.
That any good?

AmYg0
02-02-2010, 05:57 AM
Oki! later update! i said i will come up with new post as soon as i get my first hat out of crafting! so i desired the respectless rubber glove for pyro! so i went for 4 refined metals and a class token and luckly i got what i wanted! and than after i manage to collect other 3 refined metals i said ok lets craft a new hat! random one! so be it! i mean i only have 5 hats! you wanna know what my second crafted hat decided to be?
http://www.tf2items.com/profiles/76561197983675630 the luck turned against me! i hate random! seriously! NOW I JUST HOPE THEY WILL COME WITH THE TRADING UPDATE FASTER!

El_Zorro
02-05-2010, 09:39 PM
I just tried to craft 3 gunboats but the smelt weapon recipe didn't show up at all...



Do you think Valve is ninja-fixing the gunboats to be compatible with the rest of Soldier's weapons?

Uiru
02-06-2010, 04:56 PM
Can you still not craft three gunboats?

What the hell.
~Uiru

mreeuwij
02-06-2010, 10:03 PM
tried to melt 3 gunboats, but cant... incorrect in OP.

wordsmith
02-07-2010, 08:27 AM
just a quick question/reassurance, 4 Refined metal + class token DOES NOT give a tower of hats now, right? I want a hat for my heavy, I've almost got all the stuff but I really don't want a tower of hats.

OluapPlayer
02-07-2010, 08:46 AM
just a quick question/reassurance, 4 Refined metal + class token DOES NOT give a tower of hats now, right? I want a hat for my heavy, I've almost got all the stuff but I really don't want a tower of hats.

That was fixed some time ago. Craft without fear :)

ZephyrEire
02-07-2010, 08:53 AM
I still feel bad for the Backbiter's Billycock. Such a good hat, killed in it's prime by a omni-class grey version of it. Gone the way of the Stovepipe.
It was an ironic moment when I crafted my Billycock and Professional's Panama together and got the Modest Pile of Hat. Lucky for me I got the one that's actually a hat and not a freaking stack of them :)

On an unrelated note, when is the Gibbus slated to become unpopular? I'm really ready for it to go the way of Cheater's Lament, and fall out of regular use. I see the Gibbus more than I see default/no hats.

wordsmith
02-07-2010, 09:28 AM
That was fixed some time ago. Craft without fear :)

unfortunately I've just seen that 3x gunboats doesn't give scrap metal... I've gotta wait for the fix now.

EDIT: Update- The gunboats are now craftable.

raptor777777
02-16-2010, 12:35 AM
Question: Can I get towering pillar/noble assesment/modest pile with 3 refined metal?

Mnemo
02-16-2010, 01:30 AM
Question: Can I get towering pillar/noble assesment/modest pile with 3 refined metal?

Yes, that's how I got mine.

Scorch238
02-16-2010, 03:11 AM
Yes, and you have a slightly better chance of getting one if you Rebuild Class Headgear.

joffeloff
02-16-2010, 06:24 AM
Is there any way to turn tokens back into scrap or are they quite literally useless scrap now?

SR69MMJC
02-16-2010, 06:45 AM
Is there any way to turn tokens back into scrap or are they quite literally useless scrap now?
3 tokens -> 1 reclaimed metal

DanPMK
02-16-2010, 11:45 PM
3 tokens -> 1 reclaimed metal

I just updated that, almost forgot to :P

KingNosser
02-22-2010, 05:12 PM
Didn't see this on the list of blueprints on the websites but I can confirm that you can combine any 3 class tokens to make one reclaimed metal should you so wish. I was trying to make a new soldiers hat today but in the end made more metal and combined two hats for a new one so I now have a fully kitted spy with extra beard :P My aim is to make a new soldiers hat as I grew bored of the stash will wait for the update to make it thou and hope for something nice.

Tobe
03-07-2010, 07:29 AM
Thanks for the info

Uiru
03-18-2010, 08:55 PM
As of right now:
-The Gunboats still do not craft with anything that isn't Gunboats
-The Dalokohs DOES craft with Heavy items
-The Pain Train does NOT craft with Soldier items (this is listed incorrectly on tf2items!)

I haven't tried Pain Train and Demo items, or the Homewrecker with Pyro items... I assume the first does not work and the second does, but confirmation would be nice. These all need to be fixed, please.
~Uiru

DanPMK
03-18-2010, 10:34 PM
As of right now:
-The Gunboats still do not craft with anything that isn't Gunboats
-The Dalokohs DOES craft with Heavy items
-The Pain Train does NOT craft with Soldier items (this is listed incorrectly on tf2items!)

I haven't tried Pain Train and Demo items, or the Homewrecker with Pyro items... I assume the first does not work and the second does, but confirmation would be nice. These all need to be fixed, please.
~Uiru

Thanks, I've added that so far. Please keep me updated guys, I'm getting back into TF2 after a month hiatus :P

Leaf7
03-19-2010, 02:53 PM
Can we get this updated to include the fact that the new hats cannot be crafted?

Jedibaker91
03-19-2010, 03:56 PM
Can we get this updated to include the fact that the new hats cannot be crafted?

Actually they can be crafted along with camera beards.

goldaryn
03-19-2010, 04:32 PM
March 19, 2010 - Team Fortress 2 Update Released

Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The major changes include:

Team Fortress 2


Updated the new community-built hats so they can be crafted

Updated the Camera Beard and Medic Mask so they can be crafted as hats

DanPMK
03-19-2010, 06:12 PM
Ok I think I covered it all. Tell me if I missed something.

cagix
03-20-2010, 04:47 AM
Awesome!

This answers a bunch of my questions!

:D

Mr. Meaner
03-20-2010, 04:35 PM
All of these questions and answers are awesome, but I just have one more quick question. Do misc. items have the same drop rate as hats now? Yes or No. Again all answers to the question are great thank you very much.

Shig
03-20-2010, 09:29 PM
I searched back to page 9 and didn't find anything, so... Are the new weapons craftable?

goldaryn
03-21-2010, 05:52 AM
I searched back to page 9 and didn't find anything, so... Are the new weapons craftable?

the march 19 update deosnt say anything about the new weapons being craftable. only the hats.

has anyone managed it? i have tried to get the pain train twice and got the equaliser twice

Random person
03-21-2010, 06:00 AM
Q. I heard you can craft 4 Camera Beards to make a Misc Token, and use that to create a Gentle manne's service medal. Is this true?
A. Sadly, it is not. There is no Misc Token in the game's coding, at all. Crafting 4 Camera Beards would only give you a Spy Token, there is no option to use other blueprints. There is no way to craft a Camera Beard or Gentle manne's service medal.


You can craft camera beards as hats. I know you know, but you forgot to correct this.

DanPMK
03-21-2010, 07:36 PM
I searched back to page 9 and didn't find anything, so... Are the new weapons craftable?

Yep, I noted that in the first page in the weapons section.

the march 19 update deosnt say anything about the new weapons being craftable. only the hats.

has anyone managed it? i have tried to get the pain train twice and got the equaliser twice

You just had bad luck :( I did too tho; I tried crafting the Homewrecker and got an Axtinguisher first try. I got the Homewrecker second try, but then the next item that dropped for me was another Homewrecker x_X.

Then I tried for the Dalohoks Bar and got a Sandvich. Luckily I found Pain Train soon after before I wasted metal again, and found the Dalokohs Bar later that night.

You can craft camera beards as hats. I know you know, but you forgot to correct this.

Thanks I fixed that, it was a small oversight :)

MinorDamage4u
03-23-2010, 06:01 PM
i crafted my 2 camera beards and got me a ye old baker boy oxo
btw +rep

WeedLion
03-28-2010, 11:51 AM
You CAN find reclaimed metal. :D

I just found one. ^^

Didn't get a screenshot while it said it in full screen, but I took a screenshot of the chat. ^^

http://i41.tinypic.com/2uy3gjs.png

alex2005
03-28-2010, 12:44 PM
I once found a Scout token after completing all the achievements, didn't got one for the other classes though...

XyzKiller
03-28-2010, 12:47 PM
My own Crafting win!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txOpiki83zw

Uiru
03-28-2010, 04:41 PM
Gunboats are now craftable with other Soldier weapons.

I just crafted two Gunboats and an Equalizer for metal.

Pain Train is NOT craftable with Demo weapons yet (haven't tried Soldier, but I doubt it).

Baby steps!
~Uiru

InsanitySpark34
03-28-2010, 04:54 PM
Can you craft 2 hats and a class token to get a random class-specific hat?

D3STRUCTION
03-29-2010, 12:03 AM
ahhh the colors hurt my eyes

D3STRUCTION
03-29-2010, 12:21 AM
You CAN find reclaimed metal. :D

I just found one. ^^

Didn't get a screenshot while it said it in full screen, but I took a screenshot of the chat. ^^

http://i41.tinypic.com/2uy3gjs.png

ye ye double post, but WTF

DanPMK
03-29-2010, 09:17 AM
You CAN find reclaimed metal. :D

Are you absolutely sure you didn't attempt to craft a Reclaimed Metal, and then get disconnected and it showed up as a find? Check if you are missing 3 Scrap Metal :P

I once found a Scout token after completing all the achievements, didn't got one for the other classes though...

What?...

Gunboats are now craftable with other Soldier weapons.

I just read about this on SourceOP, once I get a 3rd confirmation I will add it.

Can you craft 2 hats and a class token to get a random class-specific hat?

No sorry :(

ahhh the colors hurt my eyes

D:

dorko4u
03-29-2010, 10:07 AM
I crafted one gunboats with two equalizers and got some scrap metal.

codeblue69
03-29-2010, 03:10 PM
it sould be change so that u can pick if u want duplicates of hats or weapons

D3STRUCTION
03-29-2010, 11:10 PM
D:

im jokin(sort of), nice work

0o0o0
03-30-2010, 03:14 PM
Gunboats are now craftable with other Soldier weapons.

I just crafted two Gunboats and an Equalizer for metal.

Pain Train is NOT craftable with Demo weapons yet (haven't tried Soldier, but I doubt it).

Baby steps!
~Uiru

He's telling the truth!

WeedLion
04-01-2010, 05:33 PM
Are you absolutely sure you didn't attempt to craft a Reclaimed Metal, and then get disconnected and it showed up as a find? Check if you are missing 3 Scrap Metal :P

Totally sure.
I didn't craft at all. It said that after I've been on the server for abour an hour.

Today I also was someone esle find it.
And it said "Found", and not "Crafted" :D

Mailstro
04-03-2010, 09:55 AM
About WeedLion, I'm sorry but I think he used photoshop (nothing personal, but it's just hard to believe what you said and all the sings pointing to it)

and damn, i just found out that camera beard can be used to rebuild head gear. I used to had 4 of them, but I already crafted 3 >:

Zirgy
04-03-2010, 05:40 PM
This exlains a lot, thanks.

Burn
04-10-2010, 09:17 PM
I've tried crafting a lot and every single time I craft I get an item I already have in my inventory rather then the one I want. This is because if the class has 2 different possible weapons in their secondary and you smelt with a secondary weapon slot you only have a 50% chance of getting the weapon you want, yet with any class where they simply have 1 new weapon per slot you have a 100% chance. So I've spent so much of my dropped weapons for another buff banner and I just want my gunboats which the random drops refuse to supply me with.

GIVING ME A RANDOM WEAPON FOR ALL THIS WORK NEEDS TO BE REWORKED!

SavageJack
04-11-2010, 03:56 PM
Try using the other (buffbanner) weapon to craft one of the tokens. I'm not sure if this actually works, but I crafted all the 50/50 weapons like this on my first time.
Oh, and gunboats are terrible now that you can't survive the EQ taunt.

Burn
04-12-2010, 11:14 AM
Nvm...I just learned that your not supposed to be able to craft the gunboats apprently.

tN|CrackerJacks
04-15-2010, 08:48 PM
I crafted 4 watches trying to get a PDA Token for the upcoming Engineer Update and wasn't given an option for SPY or PDA Token it just gave me a Spy Token....so is it like other items....I get a 50/50 shot at a PDA Token?

chesterman
04-26-2010, 05:32 PM
Hi. I can confirm that tokens DO drop. I got a scout token from a drop. In that time, i didn't even know what those things were.

sackofballs
04-27-2010, 09:57 PM
Actually you can get class tokens from random drops.
I got a pyro class token about a month ago, and crafted one or two others.

alex2005
04-28-2010, 10:29 AM
I crafted 4 watches trying to get a PDA Token for the upcoming Engineer Update and wasn't given an option for SPY or PDA Token it just gave me a Spy Token....

Yeah, I got a Spy Token instead too...

"This sucks!"
-Scout

xcooler777x
05-01-2010, 03:38 AM
Tried to craft Ambassador, Scottish resistance and force a nature to the Scrap metal, game tells me no recipe found. Plus tried to craft Equalizer, KGB and Ubersaw to Scrap metal, no recipe found too

SR69MMJC
05-01-2010, 04:01 AM
Tried to craft Ambassador, Scottish resistance and force a nature to the Scrap metal, game tells me no recipe found. Plus tried to craft Equalizer, KGB and Ubersaw to Scrap metal, no recipe found too
You cannot craft weapons of different classes. D:

kumflargin
05-03-2010, 11:08 PM
Can you craft 2 hats and a class token to get a random class-specific hat?

That would be hella nice though.

Talishmar
05-09-2010, 10:20 AM
I tried to craft gunboats twice but gots buff banner both times, and it cost me especially much because i had to use refabricate to get the class tokens.

DanPMK
05-10-2010, 04:57 AM
I'm updating with the new information now, but wanted to ask: Should I remove some of the Camera Beard-specific questions? They seem sort of old now.

Scorch238
05-10-2010, 06:16 AM
I'm updating with the new information now, but wanted to ask: Should I remove some of the Camera Beard-specific questions? They seem sort of old now.

Yeah, the one about crafting them into metal isn't useful now. The others are fine.

You may also want to restate some of the answers in the present tense, and remove the old stricken out information.

specs112
05-12-2010, 07:53 PM
Crafting update!

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1265946

Scrap Metal is Now Just 2 Items and Crafting Revamp (May 12th)
Okay so I got this ninja update a few hours ago, and I don't think anyone found out what it was. But I just came back from crafting and noticed that it only requires 2 weapons of the same class to now make a scrap metal and 3 for a weapon/class slot token. Could this be what that ninja update was or am I late to the party?!

Edit:
CONFIRMED with video proof thanks to Bruce McManly
Craft away! I'm assuming this change is brought due to complaints about the new item cap.

Edit 2:
It now takes 52 items to craft a random hat rather than 81 now and 75 to craft a class specific instead of 112. Credit goes to NotJim.

Edit 3:
Kritzkrieg + Bonk! = Crit-a-Cola......................Credit to Segab (confirmed)
Charge 'n Targe + Razorback = Gunboats......Credit to Cryefer (confirmed)
Sandvich + Bonk! = Dakolah's Bar..................Credit to Cryefer (confirmed)
Equalizer + Eyelander = Homewrecker...........Credit to psiwarp (confirmed)
Batter's Helmet + 2 Bonks! = Bonk Helmet.....Credit to mastercannon (confirmed)
Sandman + Scrap Metal = Pain Train..............Credit to Duffren (confirmed)

Edit 4:
It is now possible to "uncraft" Reclaimed/Refined Metal. Credit goes to brettman_1984.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1266033

Edit 5:
Some are reporting of finding items despite hitting their caps. Possible tweaks to drop system?

We need this in the main Craft FAQ.

YamYam363
05-12-2010, 08:59 PM
Crafting update!

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1265946



We need this in the main Craft FAQ.

Slight typo made by me in that post. It is now 54 items to make a random hat, not 52.

Edit: Here is the correct post.

Okay so I got this ninja update a few hours ago, and I don't think anyone found out what it was. But I just came back from crafting and noticed that it only requires 2 weapons of the same class to now make a scrap metal and 3 for a weapon/class slot token. Could this be what that ninja update was or am I late to the party?! :confused:

Edit:
CONFIRMED with video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE-FlttYzlw) of some of the changes thanks to Bruce McManly
Craft away! I'm assuming this change is brought due to complaints about the new item cap.

Edit 2:
It now takes 54 (2*3*3*3 = 54) items to craft a random hat rather than 81
It now takes 75 (2*3*3*4 + 3 = 75) items to craft a class specific rather than 112. Credit goes to NotJim.

Edit 3:
Kritzkrieg + Bonk! = Crit-a-Cola......................Credit to Segab (confirmed)
Charge 'n Targe + Razorback = Gunboats......Credit to Cryefer (confirmed)
Sandvich + Bonk! = Dakolah's Bar..................Credit to Cryefer (confirmed)
Equalizer + Eyelander = Homewrecker...........Credit to psiwarp (confirmed)
Batter's Helmet + 2 Bonks! = Bonk Helmet.....Credit to mastercannon (confirmed)
Sandman + Scrap Metal = Pain Train..............Credit to Duffren (confirmed)

Edit 4:
It is now possible to "uncraft" Reclaimed/Refined Metal. Credit goes to brettman_1984.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1266033

Edit 5:
Some are reporting of finding items despite hitting their caps. Possible tweaks to drop system?

Edit 6:
List of changes are now official on the TF2 Wiki (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Crafting) and Drunken F00l's tf2items.com (http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php)

DanPMK
05-12-2010, 09:31 PM
Updating now, and removing the scrap/token dropping thing. If they hadn't fixed it then, I imagine they fixed that by now.

Edit: removed 2 other superfluous questions and added the scrap metal thing.

Edit 2: and moved one and done, I hope.

Edit 3: Token smelting is a loss of 1⅓ Scrap now, not just 1.

KuP9I
05-15-2010, 06:23 AM
English: Valve please added Scale "how many for you is time when for you things will drop out".

Russian: Valve Пожалуйста добавьте шкалу "сколько часов на неделе я ещё смогу получать вещи"

Thebigone
05-19-2010, 06:41 AM
If i understood that right, you shouldn't ever craft tokens unless you absolutely need them?

Scorch238
05-19-2010, 08:37 AM
If i understood that right, you shouldn't ever craft tokens unless you absolutely need them?

That's right. You can still recraft them into metal if you decide you don't need them, but you won't get as much metal as you would have if you had crafted the weapons into metal directly.

El Grante
05-20-2010, 08:58 PM
Someone said you could decraft a hat into 2 refined metals, is this true?

DanPMK
05-21-2010, 07:04 AM
Someone said you could decraft a hat into 2 refined metals, is this true?

No.

Added the 2 new weapons.

klown2099
05-24-2010, 05:30 PM
Why is that when I try to craft scrap metal from
Dalokohs bar + Ambassador
it does not give me scrap metal. Aren't they both secondary weapons?

Condor_96
05-24-2010, 06:02 PM
Why is that when I try to craft scrap metal from
Dalokohs bar + Ambassador
it does not give me scrap metal. Aren't they both secondary weapons?

Ambassador is a primary.

Condor_96
05-24-2010, 06:03 PM
Also, you should probably update the post (2 for a scrap, 3 for a token)

klown2099
05-24-2010, 06:44 PM
I've seen several questions and sometimes incorrect answers about some crafting things, so I decided to make a thread about it. Tell me if you'd like more questions to be added!

General questions

Q. How do I find new blueprints?
A. You get blueprints automatically when you go to craft something that works with a blueprint. You do not need to find or unlock them, you just sort of "reveal" them for later reference. Here's two sites that have the blueprints:
http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Crafting

Q. Can I find Scrap/Reclaimed/Refined Metal or Tokens from random drops?
A. All signs point to no, but I honestly cannot tell. During the first day of the update, it showed items people crafted in-game as being "found", causing some confusion. Valve has since corrected this, showing you crafted the item, and didn't find it. However there seem to be times were people try to craft an item, and it delays or doesn't go thru, and it shows they found the item the next time they die.

So while I've heard and seen people finding Scrap Metal, Refined Metal, & Tokens, I highly doubt they actually drop, but who knows.

Q. Can I use Tokens to create things other than weapons or hats?
A. Yes, you can use Tokens to either create new Tokens, or smelt 3 Tokens together to create Reclaimed Metal. Doing the latter is only a net loss of 1⅓ Scrap Metal, so if you have extra it's a good idea. See the links above to learn the blueprints.

Q. Can I turn my Reclaimed Metal back into Scrap Metal?
A. Yes, simply put one Reclaimed Metal in the crafting box and you'll get 3 Scrap Metal back. The same goes for a Refined Metal, which will give you 3 Reclaimed Metal back.

Headgear questions (Hat and Misc)

Q. How many weapons do I need to smelt to make a hat?
A. If you use the Random "Fabricate Headgear" recipe, it costs a total of 54 items. If you use the "Fabricate Class Headgear" recipe, it's an additional 21 for a total of 75 weapons.

Q. Do Hats and Misc. items drop at the same rate?
A. Yes.

Q. When I craft 2 headgear, am I guaranteed to get a new headgear, or a headgear I don't have?
A. When you combine 2 headgear, you'll get a headgear different from the two in the recipe, but it's possible to get a headgear you have elsewhere in your backpack. This includes both hats and misc.

Q. Can I smelt or create Bill's Hat, or other special hats?
A. No. The following special headgears are unsmeltable and uncraftable, and cannot be made, or crafted into new hats:
Hats:
* Cheater's Lament
* Ghastly Gibus
* Mildly Disturbing Halloween Mask
* Bill's Hat
* Max's Severed Head
Misc. items:
* Gentle Manne's Service Medal
* Mercenary
* Soldier of Fortune
* Grizzled Veteran
* Primeval Warrior

Q. Can I craft my Camera Beards to make new hats, or make a Camera Beard from my old hats?
A. Yes, you can craft Camera Beards just like other hats now! To make it, combine hats or make it using the Spy headgear recipe.

Q. I heard you can craft 4 Camera Beards to make a Misc Token, and use that to create a Gentle Manne's Service Medal. Is this true?
A. Sadly, it is not. There is no Misc Token in the game's coding, at all. Crafting 4 Camera Beards would only give you a Spy Token, there is no option to use other blueprints. There is no way to craft a Gentle Manne's Service Medal.

Q. Are there any other ways to get hats?
A. Right now there is one other secret recipe:Batter's Helmet + Bonk! Atomic Punch + Bonk! Atomic Punch = Bonk Helm

Weapon questions

Q. How do I get the new weapons like the Crit-a-Cola, or Gunboats for the Soldier? Do I need to do achievements?
A. Those weapons which do not have achievements can be obtained in 3 different ways. Either you can (a) wait for them to randomly drop, (b) use special recipes to craft them, or (b) craft them using the weapon recipes. Since many people are curious, I will go ahead and list the recipes for these weapons below, including the March 18 2010 community weapons.

(b) To craft them using new, secret recipes:
Bonk! Atomic Punk + Kritzkrieg = Bonk! Crit-a-Cola
Chargin' Targe + Razorback = Gunboats
Bonk! Atomic Punk + Sandvich = Dalokoh's Bar
Equalizer + Eyelander = Homewrecker
Sandman + Scrap Metal = Pain Train
Jarate + Axtinguisher = Scotsman's skullcutter
Dead Ringer + Huntsman = Tribalman's Shiv

(c) You can also craft them with the weapon recipe using this formula which gives you a 50/50 (or less?) chance of getting either it or another unlock:
Scout Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Bonk! Atomic Punk or Bonk! Crit-a-Cola
Soldier Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Buff Banner or Gunboats
Pyro Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Homewrecker or Axtinguisher
Heavy Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Dalokohs Bar or Sandvich
Soldier Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Pain Train or Equalizer
Demoman Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Pain Train or Eyelander or Scotsman's skullcutter

Q. Are there other items, like the ones above, with only a 50/50 chance to get while crafting?
A. Yup. Here's the rest of them:
Demoman Token + Primary Token + Scrap Metal = Scottish Resistance or Chargin' Targe
Sniper Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Jarate or Razorback
Spy Token + PDA2 Token + Scrap Metal = Cloak and Dagger or Dead Ringer

Q. The above formula says the Demoman's Sticky unlocks are primary, but they are in slot 2! WHAT'S GOING ON?
A. Even tho in-game the Grenade Launcher is in weapon slot 1, and the Sticky Bomb Launcher is in slot 2, they are in opposite positions in the game's coding, and thus in the game's crafting system. The Grenade Launcher is a secondary weapon, and the Sticky Bomb Launcher is a primary weapon. Examples:
Scottish Resistance + Force-A-Nature + 2 other primary Weapons = Primary Token
4 Chargin' Targe = Primary Token (or Demoman Token)
Demoman Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Invalid
Demoman Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Eyelander or Pain Train

Q. What about the Spy's Ambassador?
A. The Spy's Ambassador is a secondary weapon. It is not a primary weapon. Yes, it is in slot 1 in the game, but the loadout says it is secondary, and it is crafted like a secondary weapon. Examples:
Ambassador + Jarate + 2 other secondary weapons = Secondary Token
4 Ambassadors = Secondary Token (or Spy Token)
Spy Token + Primary Token + Scrap Metal = Invalid. There is no unlock for the Electro Sapper.
Spy Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Ambassador
Spy Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Invalid. There is no unlock for the Knife.

Q. I crafted 4 of my Spy watches and got a PDA2 Slot Token. What the heck is that?
A. The Spy watches, not being primary, secondary, or melee weapons, occupy what is called the PDA2 slot in the game. If you craft 4 of them together, you will get the option of making a Spy Token or a PDA2 Token. The PDA2 Token originally had the appearance of a bottle but Valve fixed it a day after the update. Here is what it looks like now. (http://tf2wiki.net/w/images/e/e2/Token_pda_large.png) You can use the PDA2 Token to craft another watch (see below), but if you had 4 already that'd probably be a waste. I'd save them, to show them off :P

Q. Is there a PDA1 Token, or other tokens? If so, how do I get them?
A. There are other tokens in the game, including a Grenade Token, a Building Token, and PDA Token, but since there are no weapons you can unlock in those slots, we cannot obtain them, and they would have the image of a bottle anyway. At the moment, the PDA(1) slot is the Engineer's Build Tool and the Spy's Disguise Kit.

Q. Are there any uncraftable weapons?
A. The two weapons released with Sam & Max cannot be crafted: the Lugermorph and Big Kill.

Thanks to all of you who posted additional questions and information, and pointing out mistakes. I'd list all of you, but it'd be a chore to update, so check the other posts to see who helped!

According to post number one. It is NOT a primary.

DanPMK
05-25-2010, 04:41 PM
Why is that when I try to craft scrap metal from
Dalokohs bar + Ambassador
it does not give me scrap metal. Aren't they both secondary weapons?

They need to be from the same class, not the same slot, to create scrap metal.

If you wanted a Secondary Slot Token, then yeah, you could use those 2 plus another secondary weapon.

MADKILLA_72
05-27-2010, 07:47 AM
On Q. How do I get the new weapons like the Crit-a-Cola, or Gunboats for the Soldier? Do I need to do achievements? You accidentally put (a), (b), (b).

ríomhaire
05-27-2010, 08:39 AM
On Q. How do I get the new weapons like the Crit-a-Cola, or Gunboats for the Soldier? Do I need to do achievements? You accidentally put (a), (b), (b).
They cannot be gotten with achievements. They can be randomly dropped or crafted in the normal way. If there is more than one weapon for a slot you have an equal chance of crafting either of them.
Soldier Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Gunboats OR Buff Banner

There are also specific blueprints for the non-achievement items. e.g.:
Kritzkrieg + Bonk! = Crit-a-Cola
Razorback + Targe = Gunboats

Full list here (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Crafting#Weapons).

fr0y0
05-29-2010, 01:56 AM
Is there some kind of tool - web-based or standalone - that lets you feed it with all the items in your backpack to automatically show you all available blueprints from the stuff you have?

Yes, I'm lazy :/

Edit: Oh, and I know about the "Known Blueprints" feature ingame, but as is says itself, it only shows known blueprints. Like, none of the Contribute!-weapons like Crit-A-Cola etc.

Uncle Stumbles
06-04-2010, 01:04 AM
apparently, for me, the "craft secondary, primary, melee weapons into scrap metal" isn't working for me. i tried crafting a bonk and dalokahs, but alas, no scrap metal. i also tried using other weapon combinations, but they all don't work anymore.

Striggly
06-04-2010, 04:46 PM
Is there some kind of tool - web-based or standalone - that lets you feed it with all the items in your backpack to automatically show you all available blueprints from the stuff you have?

Yes, I'm lazy :/

Edit: Oh, and I know about the "Known Blueprints" feature ingame, but as is says itself, it only shows known blueprints. Like, none of the Contribute!-weapons like Crit-A-Cola etc.

Best I can give you is a list of all possible crafts

http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php

RedWing
06-12-2010, 04:52 AM
I have one question...can i find like the uncraftable hats and weapons !??!?!

DanPMK
06-12-2010, 11:12 AM
No, the only one you can get is the Gastly Gibus from an achievement. I should add that question later...

Striggly
06-12-2010, 06:02 PM
No, the only one you can get is the Gastly Gibus from an achievement. I should add that question later...

You get the Gastly Gibus by dominationg a person wearing it. Tho I am not sure, you might be able to get the festival "Mildly disturbing Halloween mask" around halloween.

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Mildly_disturbing_Halloween_mask

Hotbeef!
06-19-2010, 10:37 PM
Whats the point of crafting if nothing drops.

MagicalTrev
07-06-2010, 10:26 AM
Can a craft fail, leaving you without the weapons you attempted to craft?
Example: Today I tried crafting two flare guns (of which I had 4, one of which was equipped) but, as always, it said that the Craft Failed: Crafting Server is Unavailable. Normally all I have to do is wait a minute or two and it will make my desired item. But it never happened. So I lost my two flare guns and I don't have another scrap metal. Why?

Dr. Badman
07-06-2010, 10:35 AM
Happens sometimes. Join a server and die and you'll get them back.

MagicalTrev
07-06-2010, 11:08 AM
Ah, yeah. Thanks.

Simspidey
07-06-2010, 11:19 AM
Wheres the recipe to get the golden wrench :3

TAT
07-07-2010, 12:22 PM
Q. Can I turn my Reclaimed Metal back into Scrap Metal?
A. Yes, simply put one Reclaimed Metal in the crafting box and you'll get 3 Scrap Metal back. The same goes for a Refined Metal, which will give you 3 Reclaimed Metal back.
I'd just like to point out that this doesn't work anymore.

samsaber
07-07-2010, 12:36 PM
Only while the golden wrenches haven't all been found.

Cloktdagr
07-09-2010, 02:47 PM
Still praying that Valve will give us our smelt metal blueprint back... DX

Boarbeque
07-10-2010, 02:27 AM
I've seen several questions and sometimes incorrect answers about some crafting things, so I decided to make a thread about it. Tell me if you'd like more questions to be added!

General questions

Q. How do I find new blueprints?
A. You get blueprints automatically when you go to craft something that works with a blueprint. You do not need to find or unlock them, you just sort of "reveal" them for later reference. Here's two sites that have the blueprints:
http://www.tf2items.com/crafting/blueprints.php
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Crafting

Q. Can I find Scrap/Reclaimed/Refined Metal or Tokens from random drops?
A. All signs point to no, but I honestly cannot tell. During the first day of the update, it showed items people crafted in-game as being "found", causing some confusion. Valve has since corrected this, showing you crafted the item, and didn't find it. However there seem to be times were people try to craft an item, and it delays or doesn't go thru, and it shows they found the item the next time they die.

So while I've heard and seen people finding Scrap Metal, Refined Metal, & Tokens, I highly doubt they actually drop, but who knows.

Q. Can I use Tokens to create things other than weapons or hats?
A. Yes, you can use Tokens to either create new Tokens, or smelt 3 Tokens together to create Reclaimed Metal. Doing the latter is only a net loss of 1⅓ Scrap Metal, so if you have extra it's a good idea. See the links above to learn the blueprints.

Q. Can I turn my Reclaimed Metal back into Scrap Metal?
A. Yes, simply put one Reclaimed Metal in the crafting box and you'll get 3 Scrap Metal back. The same goes for a Refined Metal, which will give you 3 Reclaimed Metal back.

Headgear questions (Hat and Misc)

Q. How many weapons do I need to smelt to make a hat?
A. If you use the Random "Fabricate Headgear" recipe, it costs a total of 54 items. If you use the "Fabricate Class Headgear" recipe, it's an additional 21 for a total of 75 weapons.

Q. Do Hats and Misc. items drop at the same rate?
A. Yes.

Q. When I craft 2 headgear, am I guaranteed to get a new headgear, or a headgear I don't have?
A. When you combine 2 headgear, you'll get a headgear different from the two in the recipe, but it's possible to get a headgear you have elsewhere in your backpack. This includes both hats and misc.

Q. Can I smelt or create Bill's Hat, or other special hats?
A. No. The following special headgears are unsmeltable and uncraftable, and cannot be made, or crafted into new hats:
Hats:
* Cheater's Lament
* Ghastly Gibus
* Mildly Disturbing Halloween Mask
* Bill's Hat
* Max's Severed Head
Misc. items:
* Gentle Manne's Service Medal
* Mercenary
* Soldier of Fortune
* Grizzled Veteran
* Primeval Warrior

Q. Can I craft my Camera Beards to make new hats, or make a Camera Beard from my old hats?
A. Yes, you can craft Camera Beards just like other hats now! To make it, combine hats or make it using the Spy headgear recipe.

Q. I heard you can craft 4 Camera Beards to make a Misc Token, and use that to create a Gentle Manne's Service Medal. Is this true?
A. Sadly, it is not. There is no Misc Token in the game's coding, at all. Crafting 4 Camera Beards would only give you a Spy Token, there is no option to use other blueprints. There is no way to craft a Gentle Manne's Service Medal.

Q. Are there any other ways to get hats?
A. Right now there is one other secret recipe:Batter's Helmet + Bonk! Atomic Punch + Bonk! Atomic Punch = Bonk Helm

Weapon questions

Q. How do I get the new weapons like the Crit-a-Cola, or Gunboats for the Soldier? Do I need to do achievements?
A. Those weapons which do not have achievements can be obtained in 3 different ways. Either you can (a) wait for them to randomly drop, (b) use special recipes to craft them, or (b) craft them using the weapon recipes. Since many people are curious, I will go ahead and list the recipes for these weapons below, including the March 18 2010 community weapons.

(b) To craft them using new, secret recipes:
Bonk! Atomic Punk + Kritzkrieg = Bonk! Crit-a-Cola
Chargin' Targe + Razorback = Gunboats
Bonk! Atomic Punk + Sandvich = Dalokoh's Bar
Equalizer + Eyelander = Homewrecker
Sandman + Scrap Metal = Pain Train
Jarate + Axtinguisher = Scotsman's skullcutter
Dead Ringer + Huntsman = Tribalman's Shiv

(c) You can also craft them with the weapon recipe using this formula which gives you a 50/50 (or less?) chance of getting either it or another unlock:
Scout Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Bonk! Atomic Punk or Bonk! Crit-a-Cola
Soldier Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Buff Banner or Gunboats
Pyro Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Homewrecker or Axtinguisher
Heavy Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Dalokohs Bar or Sandvich
Soldier Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Pain Train or Equalizer
Demoman Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Pain Train or Eyelander or Scotsman's skullcutter

Q. Are there other items, like the ones above, with only a 50/50 chance to get while crafting?
A. Yup. Here's the rest of them:
Demoman Token + Primary Token + Scrap Metal = Scottish Resistance or Chargin' Targe
Sniper Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Jarate or Razorback
Spy Token + PDA2 Token + Scrap Metal = Cloak and Dagger or Dead Ringer

Q. The above formula says the Demoman's Sticky unlocks are primary, but they are in slot 2! WHAT'S GOING ON?
A. Even tho in-game the Grenade Launcher is in weapon slot 1, and the Sticky Bomb Launcher is in slot 2, they are in opposite positions in the game's coding, and thus in the game's crafting system. The Grenade Launcher is a secondary weapon, and the Sticky Bomb Launcher is a primary weapon. Examples:
Scottish Resistance + Force-A-Nature + 2 other primary Weapons = Primary Token
4 Chargin' Targe = Primary Token (or Demoman Token)
Demoman Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Invalid
Demoman Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Eyelander or Pain Train

Q. What about the Spy's Ambassador?
A. The Spy's Ambassador is a secondary weapon. It is not a primary weapon. Yes, it is in slot 1 in the game, but the loadout says it is secondary, and it is crafted like a secondary weapon. Examples:
Ambassador + Jarate + 2 other secondary weapons = Secondary Token
4 Ambassadors = Secondary Token (or Spy Token)
Spy Token + Primary Token + Scrap Metal = Invalid. There is no unlock for the Electro Sapper.
Spy Token + Secondary Token + Scrap Metal = Ambassador
Spy Token + Melee Token + Scrap Metal = Invalid. There is no unlock for the Knife.

Q. I crafted 4 of my Spy watches and got a PDA2 Slot Token. What the heck is that?
A. The Spy watches, not being primary, secondary, or melee weapons, occupy what is called the PDA2 slot in the game. If you craft 4 of them together, you will get the option of making a Spy Token or a PDA2 Token. The PDA2 Token originally had the appearance of a bottle but Valve fixed it a day after the update. Here is what it looks like now. (http://tf2wiki.net/w/images/e/e2/Token_pda_large.png) You can use the PDA2 Token to craft another watch (see below), but if you had 4 already that'd probably be a waste. I'd save them, to show them off :P

Q. Is there a PDA1 Token, or other tokens? If so, how do I get them?
A. There are other tokens in the game, including a Grenade Token, a Building Token, and PDA Token, but since there are no weapons you can unlock in those slots, we cannot obtain them, and they would have the image of a bottle anyway. At the moment, the PDA(1) slot is the Engineer's Build Tool and the Spy's Disguise Kit.

Q. Are there any uncraftable weapons?
A. The two weapons released with Sam & Max cannot be crafted: the Lugermorph and Big Kill.

Thanks to all of you who posted additional questions and information, and pointing out mistakes. I'd list all of you, but it'd be a chore to update, so check the other posts to see who helped!

Don't forget to add the Southern Hospitality recipe. Ambassador + Scrap Metal.

DanPMK
07-10-2010, 02:43 AM
All set

Gigaspine7
07-10-2010, 03:04 AM
Might wanna update the amount of weapons needed to craft the items. Token and Scrap Metal smelting got their components cut down by one each.

Getsuga Tensho
07-10-2010, 02:31 PM
Anyone know when Valve are going to let us uncraft items again? I'm needing this to actually get something from the polycount pack - engie update is out and still can't do it.

alex2005
07-10-2010, 03:05 PM
The http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Crafting should be replaced with http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Crafting

r2k
07-15-2010, 05:18 PM
How do I make refined metal? I've tried putting 3 and 4 things of reclaimed metal together nothing happens.

Gigaspine7
07-16-2010, 12:10 AM
How do I make refined metal? I've tried putting 3 and 4 things of reclaimed metal together nothing happens.

Are you sure you're using three Reclaimed Metal and not just "enough scrap metal to make three reclaimed metal?"

DanPMK
07-16-2010, 01:06 PM
Might wanna update the amount of weapons needed to craft the items. Token and Scrap Metal smelting got their components cut down by one each.

Thanks, I totally forgot about those.

The http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Crafting should be replaced with http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Crafting

Indeed.

Both issues have been fixed, unless I missed something.

serg_boy202
07-19-2010, 12:57 PM
Update the OP ... It is possible to find Metal from drops.

animefan211
07-20-2010, 10:57 AM
your guys need to bring smelting back I know you got rid of it for the engie update but that is over, plz bring it back, I have some useless refined metal and I need scrap metal and I can't smelt it down now plz bring it back!

ninji
07-20-2010, 02:36 PM
No. The following special headgears are unsmeltable and uncraftable, and cannot be made, or crafted into new hats:
Hats:
* Cheater's Lament
* Ghastly Gibus
* Mildly Disturbing Halloween Mask
* Bill's Hat
* Max's Severed Head
* Earbuds
Misc. items:
* Gentle Manne's Service Medal
* Mercenary
* Soldier of Fortune
* Grizzled Veteran
* Primeval Warrior

Earbuds belong in Misc.
Also, add the Parasite to the hat list

It is possible to find Metal from drops.

Incorrect.

ANormalUser
07-22-2010, 08:05 AM
Q. Can I turn my Reclaimed Metal back into Scrap Metal?
A. Yes, simply put one Reclaimed Metal in the crafting box and you'll get 3 Scrap Metal back. The same goes for a Refined Metal, which will give you 3 Reclaimed Metal back.

This isn't working for me.

I was so glad I found it, and then I find that it doesn't work (anymore?)

Masturmind
07-22-2010, 01:04 PM
Q. Can I turn my Reclaimed Metal back into Scrap Metal?
A. Yes.

Why isn't this working? :(

baumjohann
07-22-2010, 01:53 PM
Why isn't this working? :(
They did not re-enable this after the Engineer update.. I don't know why