Killing Floor vs Left 4 Dead 2

[Jesse1234]

So far I have Left 4 Dead 2 and I really don't play it often or even feel the urge to play it. Anytime my friends want to play L4D2 I feel it's a hassle, mainly because I played the ♥♥♥♥ out of L4D1 and it just feels so similar (just my opinion).

If Killing Floor a lot different? I played for about 10 minutes during the free weekend before because I didn't have a lot of time, but I find I have a lot of free time now and I want a new SP game.

I'm just looking for opinions from people that have played both...thanks! (and +rep, I'm not stingy with it like I am my own money or else I'd buy KF!!)

[Veloci1992f]

killing floor is primarily a multiplayer game, not a singleplayer.

i have one more pass to give out, but if i give it to you do you promise me that you will try KF for at least an hour before making any judgment about KF? :)

[zodiac]

They are completely different games.

In L4D2, the point is to get from point a to point b as fast as you can. In KF, you just camp in one spot and it doesen't matter who dies because you can make it to the end, plus at the moment there is only one mode for KF compared to 2-3 different modes for L4D2.

I've had KF since the end of May and have put in 315+ hours into it and started to find it becoming stale. I picked up a copy of L4D2 on BF and have been having a blast ever since then (haven't played KF more than .2 hours).

I'm not saying KF is a bad game, it's a great game for the money ($10 right now) and I suggest you buy it. The community is far better than the morons on the L4D2 forum plus the game has a great developer who stands behind their work and provides massive updates for free.


Also, you may find L4D2 boring because appearently its ridiculously close to L4D (I haven't played the first one so can't compare).

[warmaster670]

In L4D2, the point is to get from point a to point b as fast as you can.
No, its not, and this is the mindset that kills half the noobs that play, the poijt is to get from point a to point b ALIVE.

Its not a freaking race.

[zodiac]

No, its not, and this is the mindset that kills half the noobs that play, the poijt is to get from point a to point b ALIVE.

Its not a freaking race.

How do you make it from point a to b if your dead?

[VoodoO Shoe]

So far I have Left 4 Dead 2 and I really don't play it often or even feel the urge to play it. Anytime my friends want to play L4D2 I feel it's a hassle, mainly because I played the ♥♥♥♥ out of L4D1 and it just feels so similar (just my opinion).

If Killing Floor a lot different? I played for about 10 minutes during the free weekend before because I didn't have a lot of time, but I find I have a lot of free time now and I want a new SP game.

I'm just looking for opinions from people that have played both...thanks! (and +rep, I'm not stingy with it like I am my own money or else I'd buy KF!!)

i love L4D and L4D2...but i too find them hard to play often, mainly as you said and because its filled with griefers,morons and angry adolescence kids who havent been disciplined properly by their fathers because their mother doesnt know who he is!

The L4D series is also very demanding! you need a lot of concentration and its very fatiguing, and its very very team dependant.

Now im not saying KF isnt team dependant because in a large way it is...BUT not like L4D.
In L4D if someone rage quits from your team youre screwed...game over! but with KF it doesnt have that same bond, even though team play in KF does increase you success rate there is still a high chance that you can survive on your own...BUT the game is a lot better co-op not solo.

So if you are looking for an SP game i wouldnt recommend KF, not because the game isnt good...its great, but not for SP.

But one thing i will say, the KF community is nothing like the L4D community. TWO totally different mindsets! so you might enjoy playing online in publics a lot more then L4D.

[CannibalBob]

KF is good stuff. Just an FYI: I played KF more than L4D and L4D2 combined :D

A lot of people say the 2 games are completely different; obviously this isn't entirely true. They're both coop multiplayer shooters. When you're in that mindset to play a coop multiplayer game, you'll have to choose between L4D or KF; personally I've found KF to be a lot more satisfying.

[Mister.D]

L4d1 was an awesome game, mainly because it was primarily developed as a 4 player campaign game, and VS packaged in later far after the core of the gameplay was developed.

L4d2 is mainly focused around the VS core of frantic rambo rushing gameplay, which IMO completely ruined it and cheapened everything that a good zombie horror game is supposed to be about.

KF is just a straight up combat shooter, and somewhat basic in its core gameplay design.

There is no real objective other than making money for better guns, and getting to and staying at a good defensive position until its time to run back to the trader's shop.

Comparing L4d2 to KF is no comparison at all, but L4d1 has personality and atmosphere that you don't often see in a game and it was refined so well that there really was no way to top it, and L4d2 is the proof.

Kf to me is more about aiming and skilled shooting, where L4d is about how fast you can run while blasting everything with an automatic shotgun and much less about real skill.

[Phada]

I will add something, don't look at cheap price or metascore, you can enjoy KF just like L4D1. Both can be very fun and addictive.
L4D1 is more a consolized game with quick fun and KF is more a PC game with hardcore leveling.

I don't really know L4D2 and im proud to boycott him. (but still waiting for a huge discount to get it lol)

[Baloban]

So far I have Left 4 Dead 2 and I really don't play it often or even feel the urge to play it. Anytime my friends want to play L4D2 I feel it's a hassle, mainly because I played the ♥♥♥♥ out of L4D1 and it just feels so similar (just my opinion).

If Killing Floor a lot different? I played for about 10 minutes during the free weekend before because I didn't have a lot of time, but I find I have a lot of free time now and I want a new SP game.

I'm just looking for opinions from people that have played both...thanks! (and +rep, I'm not stingy with it like I am my own money or else I'd buy KF!!)

How many games do you own? How many of them do you play? How many games have you had that you feel have great replayvalue?

I own +50 games from Steam and i have played mainly KF nonstop since it´s release 5/2009.

I have also played L4D.

In the beginning L4D was very fun, but eventually i got tired of it due to simply clicking the M1 and running gauntlets from point A to B.

Kf appeals to me much more, then i constantly have to take different decisions concerning where to be, when to heal myself and/or teammates, choice of weapons, distance to shoot from with what weapon, ammoconservation, hitboxes, headshots, what zed or zeds to shoot first, what perk to choose, constant awareness of your surrounding, etc..

Simply KF is a tactical game and L4D is an arcade game.

If unsure to buy, check out gameplay-videos on youtube.

Though i find it hard to be disappointed with KF. I find it appealing for both SP and MP. It also have fun mutators + level editor.

[nobody7]

on left4dead they force teamwork down your throat. You have to stick together, because if you don't a special zombie can come out of no where and grapple you, and if your team mate is not nearby to save you, your screwed.

Killing floor never does that. Killing floor just throws so much ♥♥♥♥ at you, your going to need some help to survive. (except for high level character, on a low difficulty). Along with a good variety of enemies

Also I haven't played l4d2, just 1, but the weapon variety in killing floor is SO much better then l4d.

[Galslacht]

KF doesnt need all that teamwork, due to some overpowered easy-peasy weapons. But I hope they will fix that so that teamwork gets more important in KF.

For the moment, go for L4D2

[bartmanekul]

Seriously, can we get this idiot banned? He has contributed NOTHING in this forum, and NOTHING towards KF in general, not even any humour.

I plead to everyone to report the post. It's one thing talking utter lies, but another to repeat it over and over so many different threads and disrupting the topic.

For the OP....

Ignore the above poster, he has been caught out lying more than once on the forums, his opinion of the game does not stand at all.

I can't speak for L4D2 since I have only played the demo. But I have got L4D1, and while I think it's a great game (especially versus), I have clocked up more than double the hours on KF.

For a game that uses an old engine, is less than half the price, what does it tell you about gameplay?

Simple, but very very good.

Just take a moment to read which weapons apply to which perks, and you might enjoy it. I have a free guest pass (again for some reason), so that option is there.

[Jesse1234]

killing floor is primarily a multiplayer game, not a singleplayer.

i have one more pass to give out, but if i give it to you do you promise me that you will try KF for at least an hour before making any judgment about KF? :)
Of course!
Just take a moment to read which weapons apply to which perks, and you might enjoy it. I have a free guest pass (again for some reason), so that option is there.
I do believe veloci is giving me his guest pass as we speak but +rep anyways.

Thanks all I'll try it out today and then make my decision.

All I ever play in L4D2 is campaign because versus takes HOURS to finish and I know leaving in the middle of a game sucks. In L4D all I really played was survival, I golded all maps.

It kinda sounds like ♥♥♥♥ Zombies in COD5.

[GeneticArmor]

It kinda sounds like ♥♥♥♥ Zombies in COD5.
Something like that, but with a lot more variety and multiplayer.

[El Magic Diablo]

No, its not, and this is the mindset that kills half the noobs that play, the poijt is to get from point a to point b ALIVE.

Its not a freaking race.

+1

That "race to the finish" mentality is what ruined online play of LFD1 for me. People would just take off and leave the others behind. You can tell LFD wasn't intended to be played like that by how easily you can get pinned.

[Mexicutioner]

The only good thing about l4d2 is the "Versus Mode". Kf doesnt have a versus mode, it is primarily a coop game. However, I find that Kf's survival-like mode is alot more entertaining then l4d2's survival mode.

[Takua]

IMO, KF is only really awesome when you play with friends. Pub games are cool too for the first few hours of gameplay, but later on you'll wanna play suicidal which needs lots of cooperation from your teammates which you will get from friends. :D

I'm not saying that all pubs are noobs, but most pubs have the habit of going solo and other stuff.

You probably know what the game is about already cause of the above posts, so I don't need to waste time on that.

And, one last thing, Galslacht is a troll who has been saying "weapons OP, pls fix." since the october 22nd update. The weapons are not overpowered when played on suicidal, trust me, you can't even earn the money to buy those weapons on suicidal. So don't believe what he says.

[Eorlas]

I just activated a pass a friend sent me today and played for a few hours thus far. I can say that I plan on buying it, and I hope that the deal still lasts for the rest of the days. This game in these few hours has entertained me more than L4D ever did, and I played it quite a bit. I feel more in tune with the people that I play with in KF, and it seems like the skill level of individuals is higher, or maybe I just got lucky in the games I played. More people seemed to have mics as well, but again, I could have gotten very lucky.

Overall I feel like I had a better experience in KF, and I plan on enjoying it for much longer. There's a lot more teamwork involved and to actually be a part of a group that functions as a whole is very nice, and something I didn't have the grace to encounter in L4D often.

[distrophy]

I've had similar experiences with L4d and l4d2. Theyre both really nice polished games, but l4d2 feels like much of the same as l4d and its really cartoonish. I've been playing killing floor again for the past few weeks and I find it much more enjoyable from a gameplay perspective.

[General_Jah]

I purchased it and played it tonight. IMO left for dead is a better game, I've played part 1 and play the demo for part 2. It seems all that happens in KF is that you go camp some spot on the map 10x and inbetween each round you can go buy guns.

The perks and guns are cooler than L4D but L4D is more fun and less tedious because you are actually running through a level instead of just camping a spot repeatedly. Since there are these huge pauses inbetween rounds it jsut enables people to go to their favorite camp spot and shoot zombies. Kind of boring if you ask me.

[trilance]

I purchased it and played it tonight. IMO left for dead is a better game, I've played part 1 and play the demo for part 2. It seems all that happens in KF is that you go camp some spot on the map 10x and inbetween each round you can go buy guns.

The perks and guns are cooler than L4D but L4D is more fun and less tedious because you are actually running through a level instead of just camping a spot repeatedly. Since there are these huge pauses inbetween rounds it jsut enables people to go to their favorite camp spot and shoot zombies. Kind of boring if you ask me.

Ancient thread is ancient.

[Nekomancer]

You call a minute a huge pause? What are you playing, Beginner? Try Normal, Hard or Suicidal and talk about "huge pauses" between waves.

[Euclix]

Left 4 dead 2 is certainly a better overall game. It has a much more dynamic and well put together gaming experience.

Killing Floor is very similar UT2004's 'Invasion' mode. However, KF is MUCH better. You have to take KF for what it is. And for what it is, it's pretty good.

[online-gamer]

if only u could be me and understand y i play KF over my brother who has L4D2 downloaded, he never asks to get on my pc to play it. he use to luv that game to death the day it came out on 360.

[General_Jah]

killing floor has grown on me a bit but I still stand by my critique that its lame you just end up camping the same spot in a huge map 10x in a row.

[Links121995]

Basic proverb: The grass is greener on the other side of the fence.

Thus, L4D2 will be a nice change if you play KF for 315 hours.

[Kaizoku]

L4d1 was an awesome game, mainly because it was primarily developed as a 4 player campaign game, and VS packaged in later far after the core of the gameplay was developed.

L4d2 is mainly focused around the VS core of frantic rambo rushing gameplay, which IMO completely ruined it and cheapened everything that a good zombie horror game is supposed to be about.

Kf to me is more about aiming and skilled shooting, where L4d is about how fast you can run while blasting everything with an automatic shotgun and much less about real skill.

Most of this post is pretty inaccurate, the parts I omitted were mostly just opinion on the differences of L4D1 and two. I'm pointing this out so people don't get painted an incorrect picture of what L4D1 and 2 can be with friends, and people that know what they're doing.

Firstly, as the *developer commentary itself says*, L4D1 was developed as a VS game first, campaign came later because the devs were afraid new people would be turned off by getting shredded by skilled SI in VS.

Second, while the skill ceiling in L4D isn't exactly lofty, it's absolutely higher than killing floor. Most of the skill is on the SI side, "skeeting" hunters/rocks/rocketboomers, and getting accurate deadstops on skilled hunters is much more difficult than anything in killing floor.

So KF is much more a "pick up and play arcade zombie shooter with some team-play elements", while L4D would be a "somewhat deep team-play oriented zombie survival" game.

[Euclix]

killing floor has grown on me a bit but I still stand by my critique that its lame you just end up camping the same spot in a huge map 10x in a row.

Well the fact is there are spots that will get you killed. But yeah, I like to switch it up, especially on the earlier waves.

[3x0r10]

I'm kinda excited first time I played L4D2, but it gets old quickly. Probably because it's too linear and too chaotic.

Killing floor is a much simpler, wayyy much simpler shooter than L4D, and there's nothing bad about simplicity. In fact, it's better in KF vs L4D comparison.

Think Killing Floor like you're playing Crimsonland. It's random, packed with actions and lots of satisfying gore.

It's fun to play solo but it's a blast with teammates. But the coop elements are rather flat and not really pushed hard enough, unlike L4D where you need to rescue your team frequently.

Probably healing your teammates is the only true co-op experience from KF.

Nevertheless it's a great game. KF beaten L4D in term of hours spent in my steam profile.

[Gen_FieldDay]

Killing Floor may seem less dynamic that left for dead due to the fact that the object is to kill all the enemies on one map. Players don't have destinations or objectives to move toward. So it is only natural that players set up defenses in the best possible places. Experienced players with superior skills usually can fight out in the open and kite when situations get difficult -- which is when the game really gets fun.

Imho, this game really shines in its realistic and detailed weapons animations. I've never fired a real weapon im my life, but im willing to bet that the experience isn't too far off from that found in KF. You really get a endorphin kind of rush shredding the hordes of zeds and specials -- especially combined with the metal sound track and slow motion. There is a much greater variety of weapons to use in KF too.

For 10 bucks you can't go wrong. Always many servers to choose from in all levels from easy, normal, hard ,suicide, and one level harder yet to be implemented.

@Kaizoku,

It was my understanding that L4d was initially designed as a coop/campaigne mode. That was why the versus game had so many bugs and imbalances.

I could be wrong or maybe i misunderstood you as you seem to contradict yourself in this sentence:

Firstly, as the *developer commentary itself says*, L4D1 was developed as a VS game first, campaign came later because the devs were afraid new people would be turned off by getting shredded by skilled SI in VS.

[Kaizoku]

As I said, it's been stated by the developers that the game was initially designed as Versus only. To clarify my statement, they added co-op later, because they predicted that in versus the survivors would rarely survive and that it would be frustrating so they wanted to give people a co-op mode to ease them into versus. It turned out the opposite was true and once people knew the game well the survivors had a cake walk in vanilla, but that's what the developers originally thought and intended on.

Versus was buggy and imbalanced because they had little or no playtesting, nearly never patched, didn't respond/listen to community reports or balance suggestions, and immediately began working on the second game the instant the first was released.

[Nerfed]

I like killing floor more than either of the l4d series. Some major points that make KF better: the community, overall gameplay experience with said community, and variety.

The comminity is, although smaller, a lot more friendly than the l4d/2 communities. minor mistakes go unnoticed, and there are barely any griefers.

The overall gameplay experience is a lot better, again, because the community is much friendlier. You are 'allowed' to make mistakes, even if those mistakes result in the team being wiped out. Why? because in the end, everyone is having fun. Fun is something that most of the l4d/2 playerbases have never heard of, just look at how hard it is to find a game of VS and sit through to the end of it, without ending up as the last player on the server.

As for variety, there are 6 perks, with multiple weapons assigned to them each. There is so much variety in weapons, that every perk can be effectively played in multiple sub-perks (for instance, heal/support medic, battle medic). All that l4d/2 have are surprisingly limited arsenals of weapons and items (l4d doesn't even reach 10, even when including throwable items), and l4d2 just has multiple different versions of the same weapon, all just slightly different. There are 2 versions of a pump shotgun (one of them being normal, the other having slightly tighter spread and less damage), 3 assault rifles (one is regular, one has a slower firing speed and does more damage, and one fires in bursts of 3), etc.

[Taikis]

All that l4d/2 have are surprisingly limited arsenals of weapons and items (l4d doesn't even reach 10, even when including throwable items), and l4d2 just has multiple different versions of the same weapon, all just slightly different. There are 2 versions of a pump shotgun (one of them being normal, the other having slightly tighter spread and less damage), 3 assault rifles (one is regular, one has a slower firing speed and does more damage, and one fires in bursts of 3), etc.

Are you forgetting that Killing Floor too has such weapons?

Machine gun: Bullpup-AK47-SCAR(-Mac10-MP7)
Melee weapon: Knife-Machete-Fire axe-Katana-Chainsaw
Pistols: 9mm-Handcannon
Explosive launcher: M89-LAW (are pretty similar)

KF perhaps has some special weapons like the flamethrower though. :)

[Kaizoku]

Are you forgetting that Killing Floor too has such weapons?

Machine gun: Bullpup-AK47-SCAR(-Mac10-MP7)
Melee weapon: Knife-Machete-Fire axe-Katana-Chainsaw
Pistols: 9mm-Handcannon
Explosive launcher: M89-LAW (are pretty similar)

KF perhaps has some special weapons like the flamethrower though. :)

The difference Nerfed was making in the arsenals is pretty arbitrary as L4D works on a system of archetypal rather than specific weapons. They are representations of an entire weapon class rather than a specific weapon, as opposed to killing floor which uses a specific weapon system. It's not a positive or negative selling point for either game.

Also, L4D's variety in weapons are the special infected, who are rather unique in gaming, and a big selling point of the game that Nerfed omitted.

[Links121995]

I would play KF more than L4D for a few reasons.

1) If your team isn't over the moon about your presence, it doesn't matter as much in L4D, until it comes to money at least.

2)L4D2 takes place mostly in the day time. Wait what?

3)Less lag.

4)Slow motion is excellent.