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Wailord
01-03-2010, 11:57 AM
Hey guys. First off, wanted to thank everyone for helping me out when picking the parts for my first build. It's all done and the process was great. Thanks guys. :)

Anyway, all was great in New Computer Land until I decided to check out my temps. My Core i5 (stock hs/f) idles at around 54c, but hit a max of about 65c. This is sort of alarming, so I have a few questions.

First off, is this bad enough to not use it until I get a proper hs/f? I don't *need* to use the comp and have others, but I obviously would like to. If it'll greatly shorten its lifespan and risk hurting the cpu, it's not worth it.

Second off, does anyone have any suggestions for something I could do in the short-term that could be causing it to run hot (aside from a new hs/f)? Finally, what would you guys suggest as a hs/f that would pair well with my i5, and allow some headroom for some OC (nothing major) in the future?

Thanks everyone. :)

Edit: Dunno if it matters, but I've got a Cooler Master Mystique 632 case, running Vista 32-bit, and my gpu is an Radeon X300 (which is why I won't be gaming until I get, you know, a real gpu).

Baron_Fel
01-03-2010, 12:01 PM
Those are average temps, they arent super high. Its definetly safe to use.

did you install the HSF securely? They can be a ♥♥♥♥♥ to get right.

Wailord
01-03-2010, 12:02 PM
Those are average temps, they arent super high. Its definetly safe to use.

did you install the HSF securely? They can be a ♥♥♥♥♥ to get right.

I'm assuming I did. At risk of sounding like an idiot, I pushed the four pegs down into their slots and turned each 90 degrees like the arrows pointed.

YahooElite
01-03-2010, 12:03 PM
It should be cooler then that, it sounds like either there isnt enough case ventilation, HSF isnt latched on properly, or not enough thermal paste was used.

And the pins turn/lock automatically when pushed down, you pretty much more or less Unlocked them.

Make sure the HSF is securely in place, as in try to wiggle it around and see if it moves any.

with the PC off ofcourse.

Sometimes the clips dont actually lock in place, if you hear a SNAP when you push them down, its secured and locked in place, if you didnt then its not latched onto the motherboard properly and needs to be redone.

Always try to wiggle the HSF around a little bit to make sure everything is secure

Wailord
01-03-2010, 12:07 PM
It should be cooler then that, it sounds like either there isnt enough case ventilation, HSF isnt latched on properly, or not enough thermal paste was used.

And the pins turn/lock automatically when pushed down, you pretty much more or less Unlocked them.

Make sure the HSF is securely in place, as in try to wiggle it around and see if it moves any.

with the PC off ofcourse.

I'll go try it again. I sort of fiddled with it last night, but it seemed fine. If I take it off, is it fine to simply put the hs/f back on? I don't have any thermal paste of my own yet and dunno if it's alright to use that residue... :confused:

Thanks for all of your help, everyone. :)

YahooElite
01-03-2010, 12:09 PM
Just see if its Tightly in place, if it isnt, undo the clips but dont take off the HSF, just try to firmly clip it back in place.

and its always a good idea to have paste around.

as i said above your temps could also be caused by the paste used, most pre applied thermal paste/grease isnt all that great to begin with.

rotNdude
01-03-2010, 12:15 PM
I'm not sure what i5 you have, but there are quite a few reviews of the i5 CPUs on the net regarding temperatures using the stock HSF.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1060/5/

Wailord
01-03-2010, 12:20 PM
Well, I decided to undo the pins as suggested and re-lock them in (and yes, I was an idiot twisting them, oops) and it's idling at 43c. Is it even possible to get a jump that huge?

Edit: As high as 47, but clearly a huge jump. Guess I don't have to get that hs/f asap, maybe I'll wait a week or two.

YahooElite
01-03-2010, 12:25 PM
yeah its possible because the HSF wasnt making full contact with the CPU.

it could be a little cooler but thats alot better then before, now you just have to see what your load temps are and you'll be set.

Stock HSF's actually do pretty well, hell thats what im using on my Q8300(Stock Intel HSF) and its all ive ever used since i got the PC and the temps are just great especially with this new motherboard.

People really underestimate Stock HSF

And those temps on that website that rotN posted sounds like bs imo with my experience using Stock HSF's.

skoops
01-03-2010, 01:39 PM
Here's my temps-

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2drubz8&s=6

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vv6q1d&s=6

i5. 750 Oc@3.2GHz

Stock HSF

YahooElite
01-03-2010, 02:05 PM
Exactly, thats my point. Stock HSF's do extremely well, even overclocked when the right circumstances are met.

Some of the tests websites do is just bs or they did something wrong with the install.

Its pretty fn annoying when they basically say Stock HSF's suck, go buy something that costs more blah blah.

rotNdude
01-03-2010, 02:28 PM
And those temps on that website that rotN posted sounds like bs imo with my experience using Stock HSF's.

Its pretty fn annoying when they basically say Stock HSF's suck, go buy something that costs more blah blah.

Then let me post some more reviews of temps with the stock HSF and not:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/22151-intel-lynnfield-core-i5-750-core-i7-870-processor-review-20.html

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-750-core-i7-860-870-processor-review-test/9

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/heatsinksfans/1490-zerotherm-core-92-cpu-cooler?showall=1

YahooElite
01-03-2010, 02:33 PM
They still show the Stock Intel temps as being high.

rotNdude
01-03-2010, 02:54 PM
They still show the Stock Intel temps as being high.

That's my point. The temps the OP posted are not that high using a stock HSF.

YahooElite
01-03-2010, 02:59 PM
Ok... so what exactly are you trying to say? lol im lost :/

Btw im running Prime 95, which test should i use for maximum effect?

Okay well anyway, heres the results of running the Blended test for about 10 minutes.

Intel Stock HSF
Q8300 2.50GHZ
6GB Ballistix Tracer
XFX 750i SLI Extreme Edition(Much Much Much Better then the eVGA 750i SLI MB)
http://i46.tinypic.com/2po36ue.jpg

Wailord
01-03-2010, 04:40 PM
I've got about $50 I forgot about. I'm going to go grab an ACF7P (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134)Rev.2 and some MX-2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186020) paste. Seem solid enough?

PC_Helper
01-03-2010, 05:01 PM
That's my point. The temps the OP posted are not that high using a stock HSF.
I agree. The temps under laod are good for the stock HSF.

Ok... so what exactly are you trying to say? lol im lost :/

Btw im running Prime 95, which test should i use for maximum effect?

Okay well anyway, heres the results of running the Blended test for about 10 minutes.

Intel Stock HSF
Q8300 2.50GHZ
6GB Ballistix Tracer
XFX 750i SLI Extreme Edition(Much Much Much Better then the eVGA 750i SLI MB)
http://i46.tinypic.com/2po36ue.jpg

Prime95 is good for a medium stress test. Small FFT's will test the CPU, Large FFT's will test the ram. The blend test needs to be run for about 10 hours for Prime95 to do its full array of test's. But prime95 wont stress your system as much as LinX.

LinX is a better option for stress testing your CPU. LinX puts more stress on your CPU resulting in higher temp's. You will be able to more accurately test your cooling solution and your overclock to a greater degree than Prime95.

PC_Helper
01-03-2010, 05:04 PM
I've got about $50 I forgot about. I'm going to go grab an ACF7P (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134)Rev.2 and some MX-2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186020) paste. Seem solid enough?

That HSF is good for its price.

The MX-2 is some of the best on the market. there are a couple others that should lower temps by maybe 1C-2C more. But at this level there isn't much difference when it comes to them.

YahooElite
01-03-2010, 05:13 PM
I Suggest testing the MX-2 on the stock HSF before getting a new one.

Theres a high possibility that you wont even need a new HSF.

Plus the stock ones are alot easier to clean and dust off compared to many 3rd party coolers.