i5-750 vs. i7-920

[Bulletbrain7]

Is the i5-750 no longer a reasonable consideration in comparision to the i7-920? Is the P55 a dead platform? Are the benchmark articles, studies and research all tipped in favor of the i5-750 so much so that they are rendered unreliable?

If you are building or choosing a high performance gaming rig with a single GPU solution is an i5-750 a good choice? Why wouldn't it be and why go with the i7-920?

Do you agree with this assesment:

Forum: Configuration Discussion
Topic: Is this to much?
Posted By: ****

I think that is a horrible idea, taking into account that you can't upgrade the cpu with the p55 platform, its basically a dead platfor m.

plus the i5 sucks at multi gpu. look below, that is with an 870 which is much better then the 750:

in short the gaming performance is not the same, not if you want multi gpu ability.

so lets recap, bad idea for multi gpu, can't upgrade the cpu, don't sound good to me.

also does anybody know why it is that every benchmark with i5 vs i7 done between 750 and 920, is done with the 920 having only 3GB of ram or 4GB vs the 6GB it should have, its at its best when using 3Gb increments, where the i5 has 4GB of ram, which is how its setup to be used, also every test is done at 1600 x 1200, why don't they do 1900 x 1200 and 2560 x 1600 so we can see the real difference, and lastly whey don't they oc the i5 and lets see how it hands with the 920 and then lets test them so we can see the real world use of the chip not just why they decided to do, most of us have 6GB ram, game at 1600 x 1200 and 1900 x 1200.

all the benchmarks I have seen so far were setup to favor the i5.

[karnavor]

This would make a good soap opera.

[Baron_Fel]

Do you agree with this assesment:

lolno

Only intel knows if P55 is dead or not. Those 32nm quads will come eventually.

[Washell]

Game developers want to make money. Multi-gpu owners do have money, but as a group they're too small a market to develop games that would fully utilize the power in their systems. It's easier to sell 500k units to a market of 50 million gamers than to 5 million gamers.

i5 with single GPU will be perfectly capable of gaming, something the benchmarks, studies and research show. The only ones who disagree are the people with more money than brains and think that, say, 50fps on high/60+ fps on medium renders a game unplayable.

[cplcarlman]

I think there is way too much talk about this "dead platform" business. All platforms are dead platforms. Once I built a computer with socket 478 rather than socket 429 because the 429 was considered a dead platform. Guess what? My socket 478 ended up being a dead platform too. If you buy a P55 chipset to build a computer around, by the time you get around to updating your system, there will be some sort of expansion slot/memory buss/some other motherboard innovation that will make you not want to upgrade just your CPU.

If you've built computers for long (I've been building them since I upgraded from 4 MB of RAM to 8 MB of RAM. Individual 1 MB RAM sticks no less.) then you know that you CANNOT future proof any build.

Just remember a few years back when people were dropping $700 for 7800GTX video cards. Hell, my brother dropped $800 on a 17" CRT monitor when they first came out.

Build a nice system for what you can afford now and stop worrying about your computer being obsolete because no matter what you do, it will be someday.

[wluo123]

P55 not dead.

i5-750 not a good example.

[Bulletbrain7]

Obviously, AMD coming into the mix makes thing much more complicated. Because AMD is so much better in that it creates backwards and forwards compatibility. But leaving AMD out the mix and concentrating on Intel will the i5-750 end up bottlenecked in 5 years and the i7-920 not bottlenecked in single GPU configurations?

[Dragoru]

Game developers want to make money. Multi-gpu owners do have money, but as a group they're too small a market to develop games that would fully utilize the power in their systems. It's easier to sell 500k units to a market of 50 million gamers than to 5 million gamers.

i5 with single GPU will be perfectly capable of gaming, something the benchmarks, studies and research show. The only ones who disagree are the people with more money than brains and think that, say, 50fps on high/60+ fps on medium renders a game unplayable.

This man is America's hero.
Lol! I love Ellis! I miss my rig. :(
Anyways, yeah, Washell is right, but I cannot stand staying at a constant 30, to be honest. 40-45 is where I feel comfortable.
60 is a nice touch too. ;)



P.S. I see this same Vs. topic every single damn day. C'mon, can we actually post something different? -.-

[kdawgmaster]

i dont think the I5-750 is dead and neither is the P55 socket as here i can buy the I3's in 32nm. also this is how i would put it.

I7 should be bought if and only if ur going to be doing some kind of video encoding and something that will use hyperthreading other then that they arent worth the money they are priced at right now.

I5 if ur going for a good gaming rig that u wont have to upgrade for a good 2-3 years so that way u still get that great performance for lower the cost.

and just because i can

AMD Phenom 2 X4 for those who would once again like a great gaming PC and wont have to upgrade for a while to come. also its a nice balance i find between the I5 and I7 when it comes to video encoding. also its around the same price as a I5 if not cheaper. this is for those people who would like to go with this as they may be on a budget and can still get that great performance in games that are out now a day's.

[Lycanthropicc]

i dont think the I5-750 is dead and neither is the P55 socket as here i can buy the I3's in 32nm. also this is how i would put it.

I7 should be bought if and only if ur going to be doing some kind of video encoding and something that will use hyperthreading other then that they arent worth the money they are priced at right now.

I5 if ur going for a good gaming rig that u wont have to upgrade for a good 2-3 years so that way u still get that great performance for lower the cost.

and just because i can

AMD Phenom 2 X4 for those who would once again like a great gaming PC and wont have to upgrade for a while to come. also its a nice balance i find between the I5 and I7 when it comes to video encoding. also its around the same price as a I5 if not cheaper. this is for those people who would like to go with this as they may be on a budget and can still get that great performance in games that are out now a day's.

Any proof of your statement of the I7 being for video encoding only?
Cuz i strongly doubt your right.
An i7 is fast smooth processor designed for all-around. I have one in my rig and it works like a charm, barely does any game/program actually stress it.
There well known overclock beauties aswell. I oced mine from 2.66 to 4.2 and getting stressed temps of around 64-68°, thats 100% usage, when i play BC2 it doesn't even get over 50%.
i7 is a good investment that will take you further then a i5

[p5666ych0]

p55 not dead :)

[Washell]

An i7 is fast smooth processor designed for all-around. I have one in my rig and it works like a charm, barely does any game/program actually stress it.

Someone could swap your i7 for an i5 and you wouldn't even notice the difference. Both the games and programs would run just as smooth. The only point that the i7 gets to use its extra 'oomph' is with (hyper threading) optimized processes like video encoding. You don't have to take my/our word for it, just make a round past the reviews and benchmarks.

Yes, as games progress in system requirements, the difference between the i5 and the i7 will become bigger. But the smart money is that this growth will not be significant before 2012, when the next generation of consoles is predicted/projected to hit the market.

[kdawgmaster]

Any proof of your statement of the I7 being for video encoding only?
Cuz i strongly doubt your right.
An i7 is fast smooth processor designed for all-around. I have one in my rig and it works like a charm, barely does any game/program actually stress it.
There well known overclock beauties aswell. I oced mine from 2.66 to 4.2 and getting stressed temps of around 64-68°, thats 100% usage, when i play BC2 it doesn't even get over 50%.
i7 is a good investment that will take you further then a i5

as proven that hyperthreading dosnt do much to anything in gaming in the threads already talked about here. i dont care how much of ur CPU is being used if ur not gett a great boost in FPS then its not worth spending the amount of money needed on it.

so therefore the only thing that uses a I7 to its full potential is as of right video encoding, and video converting software.

i would rather save about 100-200 and get an I5 over that if i rly wanted to save i could go with AMD and save easily 150-250 bucks.

[Bulletbrain7]

P.S. I see this same Vs. topic every single damn day. C'mon, can we actually post something different? -.-

Went back over ten pages and did not find one topic on this.

[Baron_Fel]

i7 is a good investment that will take you further then a i5

if by further you mean its easier to reach 4GHz, sure. But a couple hundred mhz and hyperthreading isnt going to help that much in the long run.

[Lycanthropicc]

as proven that hyperthreading dosnt do much to anything in gaming in the threads already talked about here. i dont care how much of ur CPU is being used if ur not gett a great boost in FPS then its not worth spending the amount of money needed on it.

so therefore the only thing that uses a I7 to its full potential is as of right video encoding, and video converting software.

i would rather save about 100-200 and get an I5 over that if i rly wanted to save i could go with AMD and save easily 150-250 bucks.

He didn't ask for bang for buck situation.
I7 -9x with single GPu will still take your further then the i5 with single gpu.
Since alot of multiplatform games are designed for consoles, their actually situated on CPU power then on GPU power, i7 has more juice then the i5, marginally, but better.
I will still take trip chan over it anyway.
Bang for buck situation, yes your right better of buying the cheaper one that is marginally slower, but thats not what he asked.

PS: in matter of interest: i7 is upgradable to i9 in the future

[rotNdude]

The future of anything is not going to be revealed by Intel or any other company until it is time to publicly publish it.

[Baron_Fel]

PS: in matter of interest: i7 is upgradable to i9 in the future

they are going to be hella expensive for the forseeable future.

[nitric]

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