Codemasters drops support for OFP:DR

[thecaptain_ps]

Codemasters no longer plan to release patches or updates for OFP:DR.

http://games.on.net/article/8139/Codemasters_drop_support_for_Operation_Flashpoint_ Dragon_Rising

[richardandrews]

official notification from codemasters

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/operation-flashpoint-dragon-rising-game-pc-113/407318-16-02-confirmation-no-further-patches-additional-dlc.html

With the upcoming release of the Overwatch DLC on PS3, and a few "heated" threads on the topic, I just wanted to inform you all that the team have now completed the “Dragon Rising” chapter of Operation Flashpoint and that’s it for DR-related content going forward.

We are sorry if Dragon Rising and the two DLCs released to date have left you wanting even more, but in the grand scheme of future plans and schedules the vast majority of the team are already busy planning the future of modern combat.

We're aware that this news might disappoint some of you, but I kindly ask that you all please keep any future posts on this topic mature and constructive.

As ever, post-release tech support continues as normal, and if you do have any technical issues with the game then please don't hesitate to contact our customer services team at custservices@codemasters.com

From a community perspective, I’m still here to help you all and will continue to pass on comments and feedback from the community to the dev team, so please keep on posting and letting us your thoughts regarding the game, or even what you’d like to see in future titles and maybe sequels!
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Ian 'Helios' Webster
Community Manager

[BadBenny]

Never ever again CM can lick the sweat off my BALLS!!!!!!!!! and steam to boot

[ruffle607]

lol i will never buy a codemasters game again.

[js83ss]

I dropped my support for this game along time ago.

[Crusader508]

Hilarious. I don't own the game, went with ArmA instead, but I looked into this nonetheless.

I just think it's so funny that they say, "for scheduling for future modern combat."

I mean, who starts up work on another game when their game is really quite recent?

[d0hnutz]

official notification from codemasters

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/operation-flashpoint-dragon-rising-game-pc-113/407318-16-02-confirmation-no-further-patches-additional-dlc.html

With the upcoming release of the Overwatch DLC on PS3, and a few "heated" threads on the topic, I just wanted to inform you all that the team have now completed the “Dragon Rising” chapter of Operation Flashpoint and that’s it for DR-related content going forward.

We are sorry if Dragon Rising and the two DLCs released to date have left you wanting even more, but in the grand scheme of future plans and schedules the vast majority of the team are already busy planning the future of modern combat.

We're aware that this news might disappoint some of you, but I kindly ask that you all please keep any future posts on this topic mature and constructive.

As ever, post-release tech support continues as normal, and if you do have any technical issues with the game then please don't hesitate to contact our customer services team at custservices@codemasters.com

From a community perspective, I’m still here to help you all and will continue to pass on comments and feedback from the community to the dev team, so please keep on posting and letting us your thoughts regarding the game, or even what you’d like to see in future titles and maybe sequels!
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Ian 'Helios' Webster
Community Manager



release some ♥♥♥♥ing dedicated server files

♥♥♥♥♥♥s!

[Teriander]

Haha!! Wow, its been a long time since I've seen a game company ♥♥♥♥ it's customers so badly. All you PC Users who supported CodeMaster and this Dragon Rising gargage, go put some ice on your sore bongholio.

[trinsic1]

but in the grand scheme of future plans and schedules the vast majority of the team are already busy planning the future of modern combat.

IF DR is any indicator that you guys know what you are doing, rest assured, you dont have a clue what the future of modern combat is.

[obisean]

Never ever again CM can lick the sweat off my BALLS!!!!!!!!! and steam to boot

Ya, how dare Gamespot sell me this crap.

That's how dumb you sound.

[SteveLord8]

Stinking pile of poo. I was wondering why the price dropped. Well I kinda knew it was crap already. Luckily, many people realized it sucked without paying for it.

[d10sfan]

I was thinking about getting it for the price, but after hearing that the game is no longer being supported, I wont be getting it. To say that they need to work on new games when this one just released a couple months ago and still has tons of bugs is ridiculous. Wont be supporting this developer at all.

[StoProGratis]

How it is possible that you can get ArmA2 for better price and developer is still supporting this game? We have too much money-hungry-♥♥♥♥♥es in gaming industry. Nevermind OPF DR was very poor sequel to first Operation Flashpoint, ArmA2 is a real OPF sucessor. DR is just a crappy console game. Go buy ArmA2 and suppor fine gamedevs!

[Lokust]

Bohemia supported OF for a long time. Codemasters takes the name, makes a crappy game and in a few months stops supporting it. Codemasters used to be a good company. They have turned into the european EA.

[SteveJoe11]

This game sucks anyway, AI that are all snipers and all youve got is iron sights, its hard enough just to find enemies when you have a sniper.

[Ized]

This was the last game I'm ever buying from Codemasters. Feel so ripped off.

[packersfan85]

I followed this game for at least a year through development and all that I've learned is codemasters tells a ♥♥♥♥load of lies like the sandbox warfare promise that turned into levels that you didn't have to go in a straight line for and the big ♥♥♥ fully explorable map that you are killed on if you try to explore during any other mission than their 2 pointless ones

[Hänsel]

Hilarious. I don't own the game, went with ArmA instead, but I looked into this nonetheless.

I just think it's so funny that they say, "for scheduling for future modern combat."

I mean, who starts up work on another game when their game is really quite recent?

Well, CM can be blamed for a lot of things, but starting a new developement immediately around the release seems reasonable. Actually, some ground work probably already has been done at that point. Why? Well, you can't occupy everyone in your team with just the developement of DLC and patches (actually looking at the DR DLC, probably next to no man-hours went into it), as a lot of things in the game are hardly going to change anymore after release.

Edit: BIS did the same, they started working on the standalone expansion to ArmA 2 a while ago (guess around the release of ArmA 2) too.

[Simbot]

They never supported it in the first place. How can you release a First Person Shooter on the PC without dedicated server support.

I'm glad i emailed CM support and asked them about dedicated server support before the game was released, soon as i found out this game doesn't support dedicated servers it went into my do not buy list.

[.:Splak| Wyatt]

this is CM customer service i send a e mail say my game crash's when i try load last check point or restart mission their reply was we have tested the game 100% for bug and it isnt a repeatably error try loading last check point or or restarting the mission do i need to say more i love steam ive been using it since 04 i have 39 games on steam but codemaster dose not care about pc users and should be taken off of steam

[JigaDeuce]

official notification from codemasters

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/operation-flashpoint-dragon-rising-game-pc-113/407318-16-02-confirmation-no-further-patches-additional-dlc.html

With the upcoming release of the Overwatch DLC on PS3, and a few "heated" threads on the topic, I just wanted to inform you all that the team have now completed the “Dragon Rising” chapter of Operation Flashpoint and that’s it for DR-related content going forward.

We are sorry if Dragon Rising and the two DLCs released to date have left you wanting even more, but in the grand scheme of future plans and schedules the vast majority of the team are already busy planning the future of modern combat.

We're aware that this news might disappoint some of you, but I kindly ask that you all please keep any future posts on this topic mature and constructive.

As ever, post-release tech support continues as normal, and if you do have any technical issues with the game then please don't hesitate to contact our customer services team at custservices@codemasters.com

From a community perspective, I’m still here to help you all and will continue to pass on comments and feedback from the community to the dev team, so please keep on posting and letting us your thoughts regarding the game, or even what you’d like to see in future titles and maybe sequels!
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Ian 'Helios' Webster
Community Manager

The part I have in bold basically is you stating, "We know this game is still pretty new, but we understand we flopped on it and are now dumping support for it. Sorry"

I will never again purchase a Codemasters product and will inform every single person I run across that is a FPS gamer to stay away from your product if this is your business practices.

Bad Product
Bad Advertisement
Bad Support
Bad
Bad
Bad

I really hope gamers open their eyes and be less like sheep when purchasing future products. I'd rather see your company go under since you people have horrible business ethics.

[surfrock22]

Wow I was about to buy this game for the price, but I cannot possibly support this dev if they have seriously already dumped the game.

What a ♥♥♥♥ing joke!

[Andy71480]

ROFL i just picked it up for 88% off at 5$ HAHA so glad i am not expecting much . next step is shareware. release the dev tools, an give it to the ones that have to much time on there hands to prefect it i guess huh. fin goes to show that instead of tryin to put outta good game that gets loyalty, that alot of companies are dropping huge dumps of games on the market an runnin to the bank . instead of making a qualoty product that they can get behind. an that the player base would wanna see molded into a good game. way to dump in the mouths of your player base , real classy

[bistabil]

Well if you can get enough people to boycott Codemasters maybe they'll think again about dropping OF: DR or any other game with fanbase.

[FubyDoo]

How it is possible that you can get ArmA2 for better price and developer is still supporting this game? We have too much money-hungry-♥♥♥♥♥es in gaming industry. Nevermind OPF DR was very poor sequel to first Operation Flashpoint, ArmA2 is a real OPF sucessor. DR is just a crappy console game. Go buy ArmA2 and suppor fine gamedevs!

Those the same fine devs that are charging current owners 40.00 for the next update to armaII and calling it a standalone product instead of releasing it as DLC for around 10.00?

You best be happy ArmaII has a good community developing stuff. Which most servers use actually.

I read this as Codemasters moving on here with DR and will have another war game comming someday. It plays fine to me, don't know many more bugs in it? AI? don't most use a mod in ArmaII for AI? Come to think of it.. most things in ArmaII are community based.

[tekn0mega]

Man, this is just sad. The first game was just plain awesome. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

Time to put code masters right under ubisoft on my "worst game companies ever" list.

[FubyDoo]

Obviously those crying and whining in here don't even own this game. At 5-11.00 how can you go wrong as it is? Plays just fine and looks better than armaII and arrowhead (I got both so don't even try to say it's better lol!) .. what more do you want? support is in the community.. who cares if codemasters goes under.. you got a complete game for 5 bucks that out does alot of them and still people modding and making missions..:)

[Toto pectore]

Plays just fine and looks better than armaII and arrowhead (I got both so don't even try to say it's better lol!)

You are crazy or blind or both.

[JigaDeuce]

Obviously those crying and whining in here don't even own this game. At 5-11.00 how can you go wrong as it is? Plays just fine and looks better than armaII and arrowhead (I got both so don't even try to say it's better lol!) .. what more do you want? support is in the community.. who cares if codemasters goes under.. you got a complete game for 5 bucks that out does alot of them and still people modding and making missions..:)
Sorry, I'm not an eye candy person... Gameplay > Graphics

I would take Arma/Arma II over OFPDR's clunk of crap any day of the week.

Hell, at least I can still find plenty of Arma/Arma II MP servers... unlike DR.

[Gamerking233]

lol its almost like they took your money and said... CYA SUKER!

[jimrad1]

They used the name to sucker a bunch of people into believing they would support the game. Dropped it as soon as they cashed in, which is typical of Codemaster. Would I buy from them again? Most likely not, you either stand by your product or you dont. Its an "okay" game but as is typical with most companies they exaggerated a lot of features, were very vague in the answers on features, and plain lied about supporting the product fully. They got their quick cash, but its going to cost them in the future. Graphics are okay for me, I dont mind it at all, but it has to play well to. I mean c'mon no lean? Thats been a standard since how long? ArmA is the real Operation Flashpoint 2,3, and 4. The only difference is the name has changed. To expect Codemaster to come up with anything close to Arma is asking too much. Thats way way over their heads, and they have no history of really supporting their products.

[Pikey]

Codemasters what utter horse faeces of a game you have published . I bought this in the sale with some mates on the premise that the coop could be quite fun.

Well I can honestly say I wouldn't have even accepted this game for free.

Definately won't be buying a game from them again. This is whats destroying the PC Games Industry its shoddy console game ports and lack of PC support with the crud that most publishers throw our way these days.

[Stephen_Webb]

Ya, how dare Gamespot sell me this crap.

That's how dumb you sound.

@Obisean
You sir, are both a gentleman and a scholar.
Why don't the whiners get an education into how the game development industry works before they spew on these forums. Better yet, why not learn how to make the game better if they think it sucks so much? The whiners should deidcate their lives to more than just complaining and become doers, not 'have not' snot heads.

[FubyDoo]

ArmA is the real Operation Flashpoint 2,3, and 4. The only difference is the name has changed. To expect Codemaster to come up with anything close to Arma is asking too much.

The next time ArmaII people come into the room without even playing OFPDR..please point them to these articles on that great game that does so much better...and these are reviews on the "New Improved" just release Arrowhead...cough cough..

QUOTE:
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Article/Arma-II-Operation-Arrowhead/Page0/Item2695.aspx
Operation Arrowhead follows the “realistic military game” footsteps of its predecessors but is marred by numerous glaring issues. The AI seemed programmed to be awful. Frame rates were so inconstant that I was pulled out of the action to mess with video options. There is no sense speculating about the developmental time constraints but much of Operation Arrowhead feels rushed and incomplete. With that being said, I still had a lot of fun with this stand-alone expansion. It provides enough new content, opportunity for multiple replays, and online action to keep things fresh. There are plenty of reasons to love the experience but be prepared for a bumpy ride.

http://www.gamershell.com/pc/arma_2_operation_arrowhead/review.html
If you've got a powerful computer, a fair bit of OCD when it comes to military realism, and a lot of time and patience, then Bohemia's ArmA II: Operation Arrowhead will scratch your itch in ways that Modern Warfare or Battlefield: Bad Company can't. Its anemic story and characters, daunting learning curve and rough-around-the-edges performance are a little off-putting but this is still a high-caliber military simulation, if that's your thing. For the rest of us, Operation Arrowhead will take a backseat to more accessible—if less reality obsessed—shooters.

http://www.dpadmagazine.com/2010/07/07/arma-ii-operation-arrowhead/
You’ll be unhappy if you were hoping to see bugfixes and optimisations, however. Takistan is still home to an erratic framerate, temperamental engine and the kind of sloppy AI that remains completely oblivious until you start firing. If these troops are the best Takistan can bring to the battlefield, well, it’s no wonder you can plough through Operation Arrowhead so easily.

http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/arma-ii-operation-arrowhead/review/arma-ii-operation-arrowhead-review/a-20100628161137717008/g-20090813144336104029
Of course, one big question remains: Have the bugs, for which Bohemia’s work has become infamous, been eradicated? The answer is no. The engine seems far less prone to stuttering with the graphical options turned up (on a high-end machine at least). Minor quirks remain: wildlife twitches and glitches by the side of the road, while NPCs quietly dance on the spot, stuck in an eternal state of looping animation. If you turn your view around during one the occasional first-person cutscenes, you can point the camera inside your own neck. And, upon firing at one enemy soldier with a fairly innocuous weapon, we once managed to catapult him several thousand feet into the stratosphere.

Operation Arrowhead paints what is, possibly, the most chilling picture of the horrors of war than any game has achieved yet. But the atmosphere-breaking glitches and turgid campaign make it an effort to stay invested in the game. When the interface remains so grotesquely unintuitive – forcing newcomers to play through hours of bland tutorials to understand even the basics isn’t the smartest move – one has to wonder whether Bohemia will ever realise the potential that’s so clearly there, and unleash an absolutely remarkable game.

http://www.ddgamer.com/2010/7/9/arma-2-operation-arrowhead-review/
The story for the campaign itself is rather lackluster; ♥♥♥♥ is going down in Takistan (modelled after Afghanistan) and the American army charges in to diffuse the situation. The voice acting is down-right terrible, with the Takistan locals standing out as having particularly horrid accents. In addition to the eight campaign missions there are a number of one-shot scenarios that let you play short 20 minute missions doing a variety of things. I found these a lot more enjoyable than the actual campaign as I you normally had a lot less armour or air support and were just a plain infantry dude with your gun. Others will like the larger scope campaign more, so that's a personal preference.

The AI is a bit hit and miss. The enemy AI feels capable and very intelligent, often moving into flanking positions before engaging you and not running blindly into fire. Friendly AI can be an exercise in frustration, particularly if you happen to get shot. I spent 10 minutes standing directly in front of my medic, ordering him over and over again to heal me, while he stood up, moved two feet to the left, crouched, stood up, moved two feet to the right. It was an impressive display of the shuffle but I just wanted a freaking bandage.

Overall the single-player portion of the game feels more like a preview of the things that are possible to create with the Editor and a taste of the epic battles that are possible in multi-player.

http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2010/06/29/arma-ii-operation-arrowhead-review/2
It’s a shame that Bohemia Interactive was unable to improve performance and fix many of the annoying AI issues that all too often bring a single-player mission to a shouting, keyboard bashing conclusion,
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Another words...go blow your smoke someplace else..we aint buying into the my games bigger than yours syndrome.. OFPDR out performs and looks better than ArmaII or OA.. its a non issue here. Maybe BI needs to quit support too.. seems without the community they may have already gave up support? anyone there to fix up their mistakes besides those in the community?

[wengart]

ARma 2 runs better than OA. OA is several patches behind. Furthermore, Bohemia has released several patches (7+?) and a small campaign for free.

Also, don't compare Arma 2 visuals with OFPDR without mentioning dynamic lighting. It's a beautiful thing. (In ARma that is, OFP doesn't have super dark nights nor is the lighting as good) Although OFPDR does have nice cinematic feel, even if it sits somewhere between ARma and CoD.

One more thing. You can't divorce a game from it's community. The community is much like the neighborhood a house is in. Even is the house is stellar running gun fights in the streets don't cut it.

[gossamer]

Mr Fuby Doo

U MAD!? because your beloved OFP2 sucks monkey balls. I played it, it's terrible. If I wanted to live after getting shot 30 times, I'd play Halo. If I wanted stupid restrictions on multiplayer on how far I could walk from my buddies, I'd play Halo. If I wanted no dedicated servers, I'd play MW2.

There's a reason they stopped support, because it's a bad game.

[maturin]

Don't worry, the patch you're waiting for was recently announced. It's just $59.99 and called Operation Flashpoint 3.

[surfrock22]

Seriously?

[FubyDoo]

Don't worry, the patch you're waiting for was recently announced. It's just $59.99 and called Operation Flashpoint 3.

Hmm that would be on par with Operation Arrowhead and the new brit DLC for ArmaII huh...price wise..

Darn OA is so laggy (umm not my system..lol ask honest players) once you get into battles with over 20 online.. shame..
wish BI would start optimizing the darn thing..could be a good game..well , maybe.
I do like playing the littlebird mission singleplayer in OA... it almost runs as smooth as OFPDR..

Hmm..maybe codemasters quit supporting Dragon Rising because it was "finished" in their eyes? Allowing the community, to improve whats left? to be improved?
and moved on to as monty python would say "something completely different."

Im sure they could make a 3... I would buy it..
all they need is to do it..
http://justplaythegame.us

[wengart]

Hmm that would be on par with Operation Arrowhead and the new brit DLC for ArmaII huh...price wise I got OA for 30$ and the Brit DLC is only 10$. Hooray for maths.

And once again OA is behind Arma 2 patch wise so it runs a bit worse. Although the lack of trees almost balances it. Furthermore, if you were to knockdown your graphics it wouldn't lag as much get a better system or drop'em down.

[FubyDoo]

if you were to knockdown your graphics it wouldn't lag as much get a better system or drop'em down.

Actually, been getting 40-50 fps here lately..:) It just lags as in ONLINE play...The netcode seems to suck whats that again something with monkeys attached? if you havent seen it..you best start playing more..;)
But, you let that mind believe what it wants too...
ArmaII would been better off going P2P or limiting servers to 16 players..imho...

[wengart]

ArmaII would been better off going P2P or limiting servers to 16 players..imho... And play host to a burgeoning multiplayer community Right?;)

[FubyDoo]

And play host to a burgeoning multiplayer community Right?;)

Well, we all know how the majority of the ArmaII community is..so, to start again and grow might not be a bad thing..:)

[Mgp]

Fuby doo you must be paid by codemasters, I am dead set serious- OUT OF 60-80 games i have bought in 12 years OF DR is the worst. Codemasters should just stick to second rate driving games. Horrible.

[FubyDoo]

Fuby doo you must be paid by codemasters, I am dead set serious- OUT OF 60-80 games i have bought in 12 years OF DR is the worst. Codemasters should just stick to second rate driving games. Horrible.

Second rate driving games? seriously? lol you must really have something against codemasters.. it shows through clearly.

Just a quote about one series:
The success of the Colin McRae Rally games resulted in Guinness World Records awarding the series 6 world records in the Guinness World Records: Gamer's Edition 2008. These records include, "Fastest Physics Engine in a Racing Game", "Most Camera Views in a Racing Game", and "Most Complex Audio in a Racing Game". Colin McRae: Dirt can have 96 active sound effects per car at any given time, and with 16,121 different audio samples featured in game, there are 1,005,772,154,467,879,035,136 different combinations of sounds that can occur.
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now then..
They dropped/finished Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising, they wouldn't care what anyone said about it.
Codemasters is actually a MUTE issue/point to me. I Just Play Games whoever makes them.

No, I am no way associated with codemasters other than a "paying" player of their games, grid, fuel, dirt2 and OFPDR. If you play ArmaII and don't see the improvements in performance running this, you really have the issues. As for worse game in 12 years.. I haven't a clue what you try to compare it to? There is only ONE other game close and thats ArmaII.. which IMHO is not optimized as well and lacks in graphics. I dont have to see 3000meters away from me and would rather have the smoothness of play then the lag found in the other. I don't mind being limited to staying with my squad by distance, it's a squad based game after all, you move with your squad. I also enjoy the simplified menu system in OFPDR.. Which comes to the questions of players in a game.. ArmaII can be HUGE..but it lags.. I can play squadbased sized games in OFPDR without the lag. I just favor the OFPDR gameplay, squad play, performance and campaign mode..what can i say? I PLAY ALOT of games and usually tell it like it is.. this game rocks..When I want variety in vehicles and don't mind lag..I play ARMAII.. but, to tell the truth.. the few in OFPDR is about all I ever use anyways. ArmaII has the community size no doubt.. I just don't care for 75% of the attitudes and players associated with it. This should be an Adult based game, yet shows alot of immaturity. Maybe there is merit to the attitudes..people sunk alot of money into armaII and still have issues with the years of "promise it will get better", including the latest Arrowhead.(which I also own and still play)


Only bad I find in OFPDR: Wish OFPDR community would play more..ohwell..That breaks down to the lack of dedicated servers I guess. One big fault of this game. Ofcourse, if you find others to play with and team up on teamspeak, as I and others do..it's still a fun game..not a sim..not trying to be a sim..but a FUN GAME.

I truly believe they could have added dedicated servers (leaving the player count limited to 16!), spiff(that a word?) it up a bit and turn this into a winner on re-release! Making it last as long as other games on the market with the included editor. Possibly changing the name to reflect a faster sandbox gameplay not a simulator. Heck, just call it OFP-PCDedicated! But, they are making more money on consoles these days.. money talks..you know the rest..

Remember: I http://justplaythegame.us

[wengart]

Well, we all know how the majority of the ArmaII community is..so, to start again and grow might not be a bad thing. Actually, most of the people I have met are quite evil. hell, more often than not we put together ad hoc squads.

OFP:DR may be a passable game, however it is not a game that can live up to its lineage. If anything it is more akin to the older (before the series jumped the shark) Delta Force games small squad based games that usually took place within 1000-10000 meters.


As a competitor to Arma it fails, but as a game more in line with Delta Force it does quite well.

Hell, the fact that you care about whats happening at 4000 hectares is a fine example of why it fails as an Arma Completer.

[wengart]

double post

[FubyDoo]

Hell, the fact that you can not care about whats happening at 300 meters is a fine example of why it fails as an Arma Competitor.

wengrt, thats 3000 meters not 300, please keep up and get it right..sigh
typical yahoos that try to justify something that does not matter.. glad I have all the time in the world to respond..;)

Live up to it's lineage? seriously? reason I said "ArmaII should be an Adult based game, yet shows alot of immaturity" and "FANatics", it's a game from a game company. keep it there. that's all it is. *palmsface* do you make sure your in battle fatigues while you play also? I own both..like both at the same time, just favor OFPDR. Is it that hard to accept? And I still play OFPDR, reason Im here in these forums, so why are you here again?

Oh I had and did like delta force series to, come to think of it.. in it's day, The first few, was pretty good. Enjoyed mapping it also.. nice editor , like OFPDR has..pretty easy to use. heck, i still see some of those maps used..sorry mind drifted...

come to think of it..You got someplace your going with all this?

[sithtis]

The lack of dedicated server was the biggest problem

How can you keep a community alive without it?? its impossible!!!!


that what killed the game for me. You must be really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to think dedicated server is not a MUST to keep MP alive.


Codemaster have turned to the console side... they dont care about PC gaming anymore and it shows in all their games... even good games like DIRT2 or GRID... you can feel the consolized interface and all

Its a shame

[FubyDoo]

Codemaster have turned to the console side... they dont care about PC gaming anymore and it shows in all their games... even good games like DIRT2 or GRID... you can feel the consolized interface and all

Its a shame

Why is it a shame? what terrible evil sinister things here bother PC users so much? Im an OLD dog when it comes to PC games.. yet I don't see the problem here? I don't own any consoles.. well, a few for the kids, but don't play them. I do have a 360 controller, joysticks, steering wheel, trackIR and my keyboard-mouse combo all on my PC. I don't see the "big" deal as far as interface. Are we that lazy to hit the ENTER button if a 360 controller is not connected or not used? we forgot that there are arrow keys on keyboards? like, whats the freaking problem guys?for that alone we condem a whole game that wins awards for advancing the game with the quality of play never before seen on pc or any computer system? That's being pretty narrow minded if you ask me, and I always thought the PC gamer was the smarter of the group. ohwell.

[sithtis]

Why is it a shame? what terrible evil sinister things here bother PC users so much? Im an OLD dog when it comes to PC games.. yet I don't see the problem here? I don't own any consoles.. well, a few for the kids, but don't play them. I do have a 360 controller, joysticks, steering wheel, trackIR and my keyboard-mouse combo all on my PC. I don't see the "big" deal as far as interface. Are we that lazy to hit the ENTER button if a 360 controller is not connected or not used? we forgot that there are arrow keys on keyboards? like, whats the freaking problem guys?for that alone we condem a whole game that wins awards for advancing the game with the quality of play never before seen on pc or any computer system? That's being pretty narrow minded if you ask me, and I always thought the PC gamer was the smarter of the group. ohwell.

I dont get your point. First i bought grid, dirt 2 and flashpoint... doesnt meen i dont see any major problem with the porting and "Console feel" wich i totally hate!!!

Why do you think we have no lean... yep cause its easyer for console people to play without it... why do you think we have no dedicated servers... yep... cause of the consoles again.

For the rest i dont get what you meen... really i use a controler too for my racing games... Have you played Mirror edge for exemple... they tell you to use A B X or whatever... couldnt even fixed the menu/help to reflect the players using a PC with a keyboard and mouse combo (and we see that in more and more games). I have nothing against using a joystick/gamepad/whatever... as long as you give me a proper port WICH INCLUDE THE INTERFACE (they didnt do it cause they dont really care and cause of lazyness... not because its the way it should be done)

Anyway you can think what you want... im an old dog too and i can see/feel when its a stupid porting and that the devs doesnt really care... and we are getting those more and more.

BTW i dont use the 360 controler but a Logitech Wireless rumble... and my keys are 1 2 3 4 not A B X Y

[wengart]

If you're porting a game to PC basic acknowledgement that the user is playing on a PC would be appreciated...

[FubyDoo]

BTW i dont use the 360 controler but a Logitech Wireless rumble... and my keys are 1 2 3 4 not A B X Y

Well, how dare these companies not making the ABXY turn 1234 just by knowing you use this!! That in itself is the point..

How much do you want them to do? How many different setups are there.. what is wrong making it one way when we are not talking gameplay itself.. I don't care if it says ABXY, as long as the gameplay is fun. I can figure out what to do.. if it's easier on them and less bloat code..fine..do it..

I was referring to INTERFACE remarks as in menus etc above.. I do wish they had lean..ohwell, I think its turning.. the PC world is whining more then the KIDS on XBOX these days. Always remember while you are trying to alienate a company for PC users.. we do not make up the Money market anymore.. we are an afterthought. These games are designed for cross platform from PC to Consoles visa versa, all made to run on a windows system by MS, who makes the 360 controllers easy to use and include in programs for programmers. Which cuts down on bloatcode and programming time AND produces games on a quicker time base.. now, Imagine your a company trying to make money while still providing entertainment to the public, what would you do? Has common sense been totally taken out of our society? does anyone understand this at all? anyone? silence heard throughout the campus..scary.

[wengart]

I am also talking about the interface. For the price of one copy of the damned game they could create a decent PC UI.

I can also think of a number of companies that make their profit almost solely on the PC. Furthermore, just because the PC won't sell X million copies in week one doesn't mean we should expect basic UI changes.


Also, I am not saying they should detect everyone's obscure gamepad setup. Perhaps some confusion there.

[FubyDoo]

I am also talking about the interface. For the price of one copy of the damned game they could create a decent PC UI.

So, what company do you run again wengart?

Let's see..walk into a room of programmers..toss a xbox UI their way, say here ya go..paycheck 50 bucks, I want code for the PC within that price range..

Guys, ya got a keyboard..it's always been there..it has a enter key and arrow keys.. amazing.. Now ya know why they are combining UI's...

There are many planets..some people, orbit different ones..

[sithtis]

I'am not sure but i think i heard they are putting back dedicated servers in the COD game?? Well if it was for people like you, we would still be stuck with matchmaking p2p junk.

Anyway... think what you want, we are certainly not orbiting the same planet tho

[FubyDoo]

I'am not sure but i think i heard they are putting back dedicated servers in the COD game?? Well if it was for people like you, we would still be stuck with matchmaking p2p junk.

Anyway... think what you want, we are certainly not orbiting the same planet tho

Don't buy them..end of being stuck..
Treyarch will probably have it in Blackops..You have no clue about "people like me".. what? you maybe read one part of a whole converstion? for a run down, I am for dedicated servers..I did not buy CODMW2, that does not mean I think every game needs dedicated servers though. although, all can improve with them. ALL! Some games though, OFPDR being one of them.. plays well with P2P do to amount of players in the game and performance of the code.. READ before posting..wait..make that..read, think, read again..then post.

I will agree on the planets in orbit and both of us revolving on other..Im all for that.
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[sithtis]

I used the dedicated servers here to show you that when you say what you dont like out loud, it sometimes can change things!!

There would be much more people playing OFDR if dedicated servers was in... dont say p2p is good for OFDR because there is not enough people playing it... it doesnt make sense. And performance wise, it always perform BETTER on a dedicated server since the server IS NOT RUNNING THE GAME and usually is based on GOOD BANDWIDTH lines.

You have you head stuck up so far in your ♥♥♥ its almost funny.

I will work around those stupid flaws (interface, dedicated, functionality) but not with my mouth shut (you tend to think we are all stupid cause we complain about quality... sorry if i dont wanna be a sheep like you)

Now why dont we move on...

[FubyDoo]

You have you head stuck up so far in your ♥♥♥ its almost funny.

I will work around those stupid flaws (interface, dedicated, functionality) but not with my mouth shut (you tend to think we are all stupid cause we complain about quality... sorry if i dont wanna be a sheep like you)

Now why dont we move on...

You shouldn't let people shut your mouth.. you spew all you want!
but...
Your gonna hurt my feelings..obviously, I hurt yours..
sorry if i don't agree with the "this game is crap" mentality alot show here for whatever reasons....
It's a great game and ofcourse can always be improved..
Im not going to sit around some forum bashing it..when I like it..hell..
I love it.. if ya don't ..do as ya say..move on... nothing lost.
all else i can say to you sir is..baa baa baa

[chrisdglong]

Wait, they're going to drop support in an effort to work on other games... that they expect people to buy? WOW, some freaking geniuses running around that office!

[KiloOscarTango]

This is incredibly funny.

"Hey, we know this was a failure because you're not buying it, so we're going to pretend this never happened. We look forward to you all buying our future games! Give us your money!"
What do they expect? This was their first major endeavor and they failed miserably. Now they are trying to ignore it and shovel more crap our way. Laughable. Don't they know development studios have to get a good name before people buy based on the developers alone? DICE can pull that kind of stuff, but not no-name Code "masters".

This game isn't even worth the $3 I paid for it, although I could have just copied a CD from a buddy (seriously, who doesn't copy protect game disks these days?).

[FubyDoo]

you can get OFPDR for 3 bucks right now...well worth it...

also.. keep Red River in mind come 2011...looks sweeeet!
http://www.flashpointgame.com/game-info/

[bobsbarricades]

they may have dropped support but there seems to be some good commuity support!

check this beast out!

http://www.moddb.com/mods/ofdragon-rising-singleplayer-overhaul-mod

I'm praying the single player missions can be done co-op. otherwise...well I guess well see if they'r still good.

[ProudTiger]

Can you play this online?
Getting connection errors.

Don't go in the water.

Full of gaming industry sharks lol.

[bobsbarricades]

yea, online co-op is some of the funnest I've played and my computer can barely run the thing. more fun than bad company single player. can't compare multi.

[FubyDoo]

You might have to check your ports if behind a router... works great online..
link to port talk: http://community.codemasters.com/forum/operation-flashpoint-dragon-rising-tech-support-1311/393139-port-forwarding-pc-version-8080-9103-9105-ports.html


Bob, nice link for compilation..
here is another: http://nikned.interfree.it/first.html

many many maps and campaigns.

[bobsbarricades]

thanks fuby!! I heard about his map packs. they are playable co-op too yea?

[hamrat]

I dont think the Codemaster/EA post was as fair... no one F****S You Over Like EA.
There the Hitlers Of The Software World... Unfortunalty Steam Is Heading That Way. The Game Is Fantastic Ive Been Playing It For A Year & Brought The Steam Version When It Was Cheap Problem Is No F***** Servers That You Can Play On Thats Got A Ping Less That F******* 498

[bobsbarricades]

Where are you located?