Online DRM on Conviction: CONFIRMED!

[Coect]

Hey guys. Sorry to give you this news, but it seems that Ubisucks will indeed bring the new "killer" (in more ways than one) DRM to Conviction.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Splinter-Cell-Conviction-Confirmed-to-Have-New-Ubisoft-DRM-135814.shtml

Here is how the DRM will work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkTZTzsYoZs

[dnottis]

AWESOME!!!! = lost sale here.

[00Slevin]

I feel sick to my stomach. I work in the oil field. I dont always have a internet connection. this blows :(

[Imashankyou]

Good job Ubisoft. You had me at Splinter Cell, then lost me at DRM. Also, Assassin's Creed 2, Silent Hunter 5, and probably Beyond Good & Evil 2.

[airblad3]

I guess i'll wait til a $10 sale or something

[Kohlstream]

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* Core 2 Duo at 1.8 GHz or Athlon X2 64 at 2.4 GHz
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* 10GB hard disk space
* 1 Mbps always-on Internet connection (2 Mbps recommended)


I have a 512 connection....i guess i cant get it even if i wanted too :(

[xxMrMongoose]

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I have a 512 connection....i guess i cant get it even if i wanted too :(

I didn't realise you could still get a 512 connection, thats unlucky

[Spunky48]

Ubisoft just lost a long-time customer.

[DKPortela]

One less customer here too. Ubicrap done it again magoo!!! Ubisoft and EA should really start a consortium of "Assipes in suits make games while trying to piss off their own paying customers while pirates laught so hard they die of laughter..."

[mestido]

Btw will this game come to pc? Cuz on uplay website its says xbox360 only.

[47GodlikeKittin]

We can hope that the steam version might not have this DRM? lol that seems like a worthless thing to hope for knowing Ubisoft well i guess ill have to become a pirate ARGH!!

[HeavyMedic]

We can hope that the steam version might not have this DRM? lol that seems like a worthless thing to hope for knowing Ubisoft well i guess ill have to become a pirate ARGH!!

Sorry to disappoint you, but it will have this rtarded DRM in steam, since Assassin's Creed 2 will have this as you can see at the store page.

[TheBrainninja]

We can hope that the steam version might not have this DRM? lol that seems like a worthless thing to hope for knowing Ubisoft well i guess ill have to become a pirate ARGH!!

Unfortunately, the DRM is inextricable, as one of its "features" is cloud saving. Granted, they could just use Steam Cloud if they wanted to add that, but this is their way of trying to placate those who are (rightly) upset about this.

[Marsbergen]

Guess we just have to wait for this new service to fail and then maybe they will stop trying.

[Xanadu84]

Man, I was looking forward to this game too. Another lost sale here.

Maybe after AC2 and Silent Hunters 5 are both cracked on the day of release, Ubi will give up on this little scam.

[Xcessive6]

I somehow expected this would happen. Won't buy it... also saw a trailer today about a certain co-op mode only available to pre-orders *sigh*

[CalmWind23]

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I have a 512 connection....i guess i cant get it even if i wanted too :(

Well i have 256 connection. Been looking forward for this game.

[held]

Here is how the DRM will work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkTZTzsYoZs

I really don't understand, why Steam-Users have to tolerate those copy-protections. We buy the games direct from Steam, the games only work with Steam, so why this DRM, Starforce, ...? Isn't Steam not enough copy-protection? Why this double control? Somebody explain it, please.

And btw nice DRM-Video - Big Brother Ubisoft is watching us!

[Ghostmane]

Ubisofts new DRM has already been cracked.

Good Game.

[SKiLLY2]

I kind of expected this to be honest, after hearing about ACII's new DRM. It's too bad really because I've been a big fan of the splinter cell series since the first game.

I definitely won't be spending $50 for this upon release. I'm debating whether or not to even buy it at all, even for $10 during a sale on steam which would be more than a year from now.

I'm assuming it will probably be a mediocre console port anyway.

[CaptainDingo]

Ubisofts new DRM has already been cracked.

Good Game.

Yep. No surprise there.

These people waste years of their lives developing new DRM technology, and a team of pirates crack it in 24 hours.

Not sure when the publishers will learn.

[Rattletrap]

Do we still have to use their DRM system even though we purchase / play the game through steam? If not then they just lost a customer on every future PC game. :(

[The Only Camper]

Well i have 256 connection. Been looking forward for this game.

Is these slow connections are the standard in USA?! (Assuming you live there) You must be kidding! 1 MPS is the standard in Canada... It costs almost nothing here! Guess we are the High-tech country now!

And I just laugh at how you are all complaining on it... Sure... pirates will crack the game... But they won't have online games (wich is a huge part of it)... Achievments are online so pirates won't have them. Pirates won't even have half of the game...

And before remaking the game, this game was going to be DIRECTX 11 ONLY! If it was going to be like this, you could cry... but looks like you cry for a simple anti-piracy system. How sad.

We buy the games direct from Steam, the games only work with Steam, so why this DRM, Starforce, ...?

Because not all the game developer wants to be dependent from Steam and they want to sell it on their own online Service? And whats the point of being WITH steam when people were complaining about COD6 being Steam-only? This community is the weirdest.

[walrus1]

The 1mps a second bothers me. I live with roommates and when their streaming movies, listing to radio, ect. My connection drops like a rock. I don't think I can hold a steady 1 MPS.

[mattdamonsblues]

This is a situation where I hope the pirates beat the DRM quickly, then force Ubisoft to patch the game for us actual paying customers.

Until then, I will vote with my money - no pre-sale here.
I will buy the game (looks amazing) when they patch it to be DRM free.
I should be able to play my one player game offline anytime I want.

[mattdamonsblues]

STEAM is a DRM - please allow it to work as it has, perfectly.

[Acid Caribou]

I have close to 300 games on my steam account, but I will never, ever, buy an Ubisoft title with this form of DRM. They are losing 5 legitimate customers for every 1 pirate they stop WHO WOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT THE GAME ANYWAY!

These guys obviously haven't learned from the mistakes of the music industry.

[Jito463]

These guys obviously haven't learned from the mistakes of the music industry.

They obviously haven't even learned from their own mistakes. You'd think the Starforce fiasco would have taught them something about treating their customers well. As it stands, look like I won't be getting AC2, SC:C or BG&E 2. I was really looking forward to all three, but I refuse to support a publisher that shows such obvious disdain for it's customers.

A system like this rewards only the publisher, and does nothing to entice the consumer. I may have some issues with Steam, but at least they know how to give, as well as take. Ubisoft just wants to take without any give.

[PeaceFrog]

Ubisofts new DRM has already been cracked.

Good Game.

NO, it hasn't. Assassin's Creed 2 has not been cracked at all and Silent Hunter 5 is sort of cracked but not worth playing.

Don't know where you heard otherwise-

[impreza50]

all right ubi looks like my money will be going to thq in the form of metro 2033 now. I will not buy a game that I can't play offline.

[kray28]

Another lost sale.....Ubi needs to just get out of the PC game business and concentrate on shoveling their crap to the console kiddies.

[paratech2008]

They obviously haven't even learned from their own mistakes. You'd think the Starforce fiasco would have taught them something about treating their customers well. As it stands, look like I won't be getting AC2, SC:C or BG&E 2. I was really looking forward to all three, but I refuse to support a publisher that shows such obvious disdain for it's customers.

A system like this rewards only the publisher, and does nothing to entice the consumer. I may have some issues with Steam, but at least they know how to give, as well as take. Ubisoft just wants to take without any give.

I'll probably buy them USED for the 360, I won't support Ubisoft by purchasing new games that use that DRM?

[kray28]

Also add that I'm a customer who's bought every Splinter Cell game to date including the load o' crap that was Double Agent.

No more...GTFO Ubisoft.

[AussieSausage]

eh, guess it sucks for people with no/limited internet

dont worry me to much, IM EXCITED!

[Mastix]

NO, it hasn't. Assassin's Creed 2 has not been cracked at all and Silent Hunter 5 is sort of cracked but not worth playing.

Don't know where you heard otherwise-

Dude, AC2 is cracked from days ago... :p

[PolloDiablo]

Same here, so long as this DRM is on a game, there's no way I'm buying it. It also seems extremely dishonest of Steam to not mention it on the store page for the game. Other stores have warnings, it seems like Valve is attempting to deceive customers.

[Colon Blow]

eh, guess it sucks for people with no/limited internet

dont worry me to much, IM EXCITED!

EHHHH... it has nothing to do with that. I have a 50mbps connection at home and I won't be buying this on principle.

[NuclearKetchup]

Xbox version here I come.

[zachanscom]

all future ubi titles will have this drm. doesn't really make a difference, i don't buy ubisoft games anyway. they started going downhill since double agent.

oh and sh5 is trash. don't believe the hype. i tried it at a friends house and it was buggy as hell. unbearable.

[ReMaKc]

Seems like im the only one here who dont mind , o well im gonna enjoy the game :D

[AussieSausage]

EHHHH... it has nothing to do with that. I have a 50mbps connection at home and I won't be buying this on principle.

reason i said it dont bother me :D

Seems like im the only one here who dont mind , o well im gonna enjoy the game :D

nope, dont bother me none either :).i gotta be connected to the internet to do everything else i wanna do so playing a game isnt gonna bother me :\

[DancingOmelette]

Damn, I was looking forward to this game... thing is I'm torn now, because I don't want to support Ubisoft by giving them money when they're peddling this brand of manure - normally my solution would be to pirate it, but I really want to play the co-op mode in this game. Guess I'll hold off, maybe ubi will see sense and disable this nonsense DRM.

oh and sh5 is trash. don't believe the hype. i tried it at a friends house and it was buggy as hell. unbearable.
Don't believe this guy, I played the demo on my 360, didn't see any bugs, and the gameplay is everything I hoped it would be. Just a pity ubi are choosing to destroy it with this DRM.

[Tibiazak]

Dude, AC2 is cracked from days ago... :p

Actually, as of last night, it's not. The cracks still don't work. (please note I purchased the game, I just find it interesting to watch how long until they crack it.)

Incidentally guys, if you have a constant internet connection, it actually works pretty well. It's nowhere near the horror stories that people (like me) were proclaiming prior to the release of AC2. If you don't have an internet connection that works well enough, inform ubi. I don't like this DRM as much as some others, but it's not a showstopper for me anymore.

[summitus]

Its makes no difference guys , buy their games or not , they dont care .. there are enough people buying Ubisoft titles on consoles , so they just absorb the losses for PC.

[summitus]

Ubisofts new DRM has already been cracked.

Good Game.

Assasins Creed 2 has not been cracked yet , and probably wont be.

[DeathZero34]

They just lost my money.(by principle) Guess I'll never play an Ubisoft game on computer ever again.

[GrimCW]

well if they follow through with the removal sometime post release, sure i'll buy in the future, but till then, screw'em.

[Royas]

Yet another Ubisoft game I won't be buying just because of the DRM. That's 4 games now. Ubisoft, your competitors thank you... for my money.

[Dion]

EHHHH... it has nothing to do with that. I have a 50mbps connection at home and I won't be buying this on principle.

Online DRM is the future. Been going strong since Steam. Better get use to it. Before you reply.. I don't need to know the difference between steam and Ubisofts DRM i know them. And keep in mind Steam didn't have Offline mode at launch and half there stuff didn't work. Like Friends list. Ubisoft's DRM is steam with more security and has similar features like steam cloud.

[PeaceFrog]

Dude, AC2 is cracked from days ago... :p

No, it is not.

[sgtbulletsponge]

Good job Ubisoft. You had me at Splinter Cell, then lost me at DRM. Also, Assassin's Creed 2, Silent Hunter 5, and probably Beyond Good & Evil 2.

Well Put - LOST SALE. I'm officially boycotting all Ubi products until this crap is removed from every Ubi game offered for sale. Been with you since the '90s Ubi, but no longer. Have a nice life.

[impreza50]

if companies must have a key activated why can't they just do what thq does and use steamworks? steam lets you play offline and avoids the need for multiple systems just to play the game.

the faster this drm gets cracked the better then ubi might dump it.

[impreza50]

alright ubi I'll just download the cracked version if you wont let me play it without a constant internet connection. Till the drm is gone I will not buy a ubi game. ubi if you want to kill resale just use steamworks then I would buy it but not some broken system of your own.

[KyrenCross]

Nice I love exclusive games >_O , can't wait. Sux for the PC delay though.
I'll wait for the review on coop mode on the console.
Hope it gets priced soon for pre-order ^_^

[SynDerBlocks]

Online DRM is the future. Been going strong since Steam. Better get use to it.
this DRM is only the future if apathetic walking dollar signs like you keep supporting it.
Lost sale here

[Crutchley29]

WAHHHH! DRM this, DRM that, who gives a crap?.

DRM has been around a long time and 90% of PC gamers are ALWAYS online when on their rig, It seems like a fad these days to make a stand against it but lets be honest...most games from now on are going to have it.

I bought The Settlers 7 the other day...dont give a damn about the DRM...i would pay anything to support a long time PC dev like Blue Byte and so should most PC gamers.

[deroc5050]

I tend to ignore drm as long as it isnt to bad. But what ubisoft is doing is ridiculous... the funny thing is I really want to buy this game but I absolutly refuse to purchase it until they remove or fix it up so it doestn require a constant connection.

[Meatex]

You guys realise that Ubisoft is using heavy DRM because they tried a DRM free game and the experiment didn't work out.
So now they are putting in heavy DRM because they learned the truth that no DRM simply equates to greater adoption by pirates and thus less money.
Yes it can be cracked and still pirated but those people aren't going to buy it anyway.
There are more people who can't figure out the crack or couldn't be bothered cracking and just buy it than there are people who don't buy because of DRM
And don't blame ubisoft as like I said they tried the DRM free route and it didn't work. So the fingers should be pointed at all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥bags who thought hey no DRM = super easy to pirate yay

[PeaceFrog]

You guys realise that Ubisoft is using heavy DRM because they tried a DRM free game and the experiment didn't work out.
So now they are putting in heavy DRM because they learned the truth that no DRM simply equates to greater adoption by pirates and thus less money.
Yes it can be cracked and still pirated but those people aren't going to buy it anyway.
There are more people who can't figure out the crack or couldn't be bothered cracking and just buy it than there are people who don't buy because of DRM
And don't blame ubisoft as like I said they tried the DRM free route and it didn't work. So the fingers should be pointed at all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥bags who thought hey no DRM = super easy to pirate yay

What DRM-free game was that? Got a link? Cause I don't think you know what you are talking about. Plenty of DRM-free games have sold great, recently Sins of a Solar Empire being one, I believe.

Online DRM is the future. Been going strong since Steam. Better get use to it. Before you reply.. I don't need to know the difference between steam and Ubisofts DRM i know them. And keep in mind Steam didn't have Offline mode at launch and half there stuff didn't work. Like Friends list. Ubisoft's DRM is steam with more security and has similar features like steam cloud.

Steam has NO security. Steam games are pirated within hours. I remember Gabe going on about HL2 being "un-piratable" or whatever. Four hours after launch it was everywhere-

Besides that, Steam doesn't require an internet connection to play single-player like Ubisoft BS system. Not that I want to, but I wouldn't buy Assassin's Creed II if i wanted it-

[n00ps]

WAHHHH! DRM this, DRM that, who gives a crap?.

DRM has been around a long time and 90% of PC gamers are ALWAYS online when on their rig, It seems like a fad these days to make a stand against it but lets be honest...most games from now on are going to have it.

I bought The Settlers 7 the other day...dont give a damn about the DRM...i would pay anything to support a long time PC dev like Blue Byte and so should most PC gamers.

Just like all those Australian customers who bought it and now can't connect because Ubisoft's server is fritzed?

Or everyone who bought AC2 then couldn't play for almost a week because their servers were also ♥♥♥♥ed?

[kurashu]

What DRM-free game was that? Got a link? Cause I don't think you know what you are talking about.

The last Prince of Persia had no DRM. But it did sold about over 2 million copies though...

[PeaceFrog]

The last Prince of Persia had no DRM. But it did sold about over 2 million copies though...

Yeah, thanks. So his claim that the game flopped was BS-

[ImBack87]

The new DRM is the least of my concerns now, I just finished playing through Assassin's Creed II without a single DRM related problem. Yes, I'm against it but it's been working flawlessly for me. What bothers me is that SC Conviction is most likely going to end up like many franchises that have been dumbed down to appeal to a greater audience...

[Meatex]

Yeah, thanks. So his claim that the game flopped was BS-

Did i say it flopped?
What I was saying was that after that game Ubisoft went from a hey here's a DRM free game for you so all the people who don't like DRM can buy the game. Then afterwards they went and developed possibly the most restrictive DRM in games to date.
Just trying to point out that Ubi are not [color="#FF66FF"]♥[/color][color="#FF66FF"]♥[/color][color="#FF66FF"]♥[/color][color="#FF66FF"]♥[/color][color="#FF66FF"]♥[/color]
Yes the DRM is a pain and can cause problems
Yes it gets cracked fairly quickly
But it does help prevent piracy ever so slightly
And that's enough for them

[Menace]

Im a little curious. It would seem ubisoft has chosen the way of DRM to avoid piracy right, yet this generates millions of complaints among the 'True' customers around the globe.

Obviouse Facts;

-Unlike television, the internet does not reach the entire world.

-Not everyone has the internet, it is not mandatory, yet more and more software requires the internet for either activation or validation.

-DRM was created to prevent game piracy, and unfortunatley it is only the people that play games constantly that are fully aware of DRM. Those that do not purchase the game, try to install and find out the hard way when they have no internet. Did i not buy this game? is it not mine to do as i please?

-Now that DRM is here, sales drop in a MAJOR way. Not only that, but these games are STILL being pirated.

Now, lets get hypothetical.

Steve wants to play SC;C upon release. Steve has the internet but its only available to him 50% of the time. Steve plays many games and in doin so is supporting the developers. Steve finds out this game will be rife with DRM, now steve is sad. "With all these things in mind, ill only be able to play this game once a week at best...♥♥♥♥".


Steve opps for the pirated version which his mate has pointed him to because he feels more secure with this choice.

In summary;

-DRM was a bad choice.
-Not only is it annoying to the customer and creates hassel, it flat out does not work anyway, the games still get pirated and Ubisoft looses more money than before.

[MikersSU]

Not buying. It's a port based on an old game engine. By old I mean Unreal 2 old. Yuck. How about some forward progress Ubisoft?

DRM is draconian and almost criminal at best.

[CDRW]

Last chance to say "APRIL FOOLS!" Ubi...

[werix]

I'm not opposed to DRM, I hate people that pirate games exactly because the companies see it as a $ issue. If they release a game for PC and say 30% of the people who will play it pirate it when only 8% (both made up hypothetical percents)will have a cracked console, it makes more sense to make it for the console; screwing over pure PC folks like myself.

I know plenty of friends that pirate games, and complain it is a crappy port: the reason it is a crappy console port is because people like YOU are pirating it! It's the pirates who are lamenting the death of PC gaming that are twisting the knife in ole PC's back.

That being said, game companies need some form of copy protection to help deter pirates, but they can't go with something as severe as this. I don't have the answer, but a DRM can't be so controlling as to dissuade/lock out legitimate customers.

Here is a fact: a lot of Americans still have dial up because they live in rural areas where there isn't the cable internet infrastructure.(Latest FCC estimate is 35% http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/content_display/news/digital-downloads/broadband/e3ib108b71d68d61db95c9666c41a5af88c) These are people that would not pirate the game because they're on dial-up, they can't even download the game. But with this DRM, those people are now incapable of playing this game on PC.

Publishers have to realize that there are legitimate customers that will buy games and support the industry. They also must realize that there will be pirates that will crack the game. They also must realize that if they go too far with DRM they will not only deter more pirates, but also deter/prevent legitimate customers. They must come up with a system that is a balance.

I think a good approach was Mass Effect two. Make a lot of the game content as Free DLC, like the Normandy wreck mission or the bonus party member. Ok, pirate it if you want, but you won't have yourself the full game. The legitimate customers get more for actually paying, and those people without a good internet connection can still play the game, sure they may miss some of the bells and whistles, (or wait forever for them to download) but they won't be totally locked out like this Ubisoft DRM will do.

I will boycott out of principle, which is a shame, because Ubi makes some great stuff, like all the Tom Clancy games and Far Cry.

TL-DR- Pirates are killing PC gaming. DRM needed, this goes too far, even though have high speed won't get any ubi games with this.

[wazups 2x]

I don't understand why they need to include this DRM in the Steam version.

The new DRM is the least of my concerns now, I just finished playing through Assassin's Creed II without a single DRM related problem. Yes, I'm against it but it's been working flawlessly for me. What bothers me is that SC Conviction is most likely going to end up like many franchises that have been dumbed down to appeal to a greater audience...

Yeah, that's my worry.

[Hawat]

DRM = lost sale

That's two and counting, Ubisoft. First it was AC II and now this.

With STEAM, they shouldn't need their own DRM.


Also, notice that the price is not yet listed on STEAM. I can tell you that probably means another $60 price tag. That's an automatic no sale for me as well.


I've never seen a game company with such a strong line-up of games shoot themselves in the foot like this. It's uncanny.

[Jimmy Damage]

This DRM = No sale.

[Vendayn]

I find it funny when eventually this DRM is cracked, the pirates get rewarded for pirating (that is, having no DRM) and paid customers get screwed

[Royas]

I find it funny when eventually this DRM is cracked, the pirates get rewarded for pirating (that is, having no DRM) and paid customers get screwed

As I understand it, it is already cracked. The crack is just in limited distribution at this point, and isn't available on public torrent sites. Give it another month, everyone will have it.

[Naithin]

This is the third recent Ubisoft title to lose a sale in me due to this DRM scheme.

Assassin's Creed II,
Settlers 7,

And now this. By far this is the most tragic loss for me, have been really really looking forward to SC:C, but there is no chance I'll be purchasing it while this DRM is in use.

My connection has the requisite speeds (3Mbit/s+ typically, getting upgraded later this year) but it's ADSL, and disconnects every so often.

I understand the need for DRMs to some degree, but when it basically becomes a crippling factor to the gameplay experience for some people.. C'mon.

EA recently went the way of the Ubi with C&C4 (fortunately, I had no desire to play this one) but I've heard reports that if you lost conn during a mission.. It's over. No grace to reconnect or anything, bam, restart it when you reconnect. I can't believe they've joined this bandwagon as well.

EA's last few titles (Well, Bioware's, but they're under the EA umbrella now) had a much better system. Optional login to your EA account, insert your key, free bonus content, some of which is quite significant. \o/

Anywho, rambling a bit now. Bottom line is, they'll never see a single cent out of me while they use this DRM.

[e283]

EA recently went the way of the Ubi with C&C4 (fortunately, I had no desire to play this one) but I've heard reports that if you lost conn during a mission.. It's over. No grace to reconnect or anything, bam, restart it when you reconnect. I can't believe they've joined this bandwagon as well.

Ubisoft's DRM was updated to have the game start off where you disconnect to prevent the no save = no progress issue. I've experienced it only once during my time playing AC2. Isn't really a big deal.

[deroc5050]

Ubi has been dragged through the mud in the media over this ♥♥♥♥ drm. DRM does not work, they are going to lose so many sales for this game. I have never played a SC game anyway but wanted to try this out.. I guess if I do play this game at all I will just rent it on a console. But I doubt I will even give this game a sniff unless it gets rave reviews across the board.

[Austin007]

I too am even more skeptical of SCC now, so many of Ubi's new titles with this always-on DRM are having problems staying connected. It's not leaving a warm fuzzy feeling. We can only hope they remove the DRM from the Steam version, that would almost guarantee a sale from me.

[Naithin]

I too am even more skeptical of SCC now, so many of Ubi's new titles with this always-on DRM are having problems staying connected. It's not leaving a warm fuzzy feeling. We can only hope they remove the DRM from the Steam version, that would almost guarantee a sale from me.

Highly unlikely they will. AC2 and Settlers 7 steam versions still have it in place, I haven't looked into Silent Hunter 5 but I assume that also still has it in place even over Steam.

[Korolev61]

For crying out loud, Ubisoft! Are you trying to make me buy a 360? Well, I won't. I know PC gaming sales suffer because of piracy, but I still buy them!

I put up with the following copyright protection methods:
1) Always having the disc in the drive while playing.
2) Typing in a serial key at the start of installation.
3) Activating the game online after installation.
4) Putting up with limited installs.

But a constant internet connection requirement during a SINGLE PLAYER game? That's a load of crap. Does Ubisoft think every one who buys this game is a potential pirate and that their copy might magically turn into a pirated version while they play?

Congratulations Ubisoft: You are helping destroy PC gaming as we know it.

[erwem576]

No sale. I haven't bought AC2 on the PC yet...a tough wait believe me... and I won't buy this either. Not going to be easy.

I'll wait it out, play other games, and then at some point down the road the wait will either be worth it or I'll get the games on the PS3. That simple.

[jkmjelite]

No sale. I haven't bought AC2 on the PC yet...a tough wait believe me... and I won't buy this either. Not going to be easy.

I'll wait it out, play other games, and then at some point down the road the wait will either be worth it or I'll get the games on the PS3. That simple.

Spinter Cell Conviction isn't on the ps3.

[erwem576]

Spinter Cell Conviction isn't on the ps3.

I know. I suspect it will be at some point, though if any of the chatter has anything going for it.



http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1220964


I can easily wait if that's anything to go by.

[sujerre]

Assasins Creed 2 has not been cracked yet , and probably wont be.

Assassin's Creed 2 has been cracked for a good long time. Several different people found ways to emulate a local Ubisoft server, the most widely used one currently allows for 100% Assassin's Creed 2 completion.

I get it buddy. Ubisoft gave it to you up the ♥♥♥ and now you constantly have to tell yourself IT HASNT BEEN CRACKED, MY BUTTRAMMING WASN'T FOR NOTHING.

Sorry to break your bubble.

[erwem576]

Assassin's Creed 2 has been cracked for a good long time. Several different people found ways to emulate a local Ubisoft server, the most widely used one currently allows for 100% Assassin's Creed 2 completion.

I get it buddy. Ubisoft gave it to you up the ♥♥♥ and now you constantly have to tell yourself IT HASNT BEEN CRACKED, MY BUTTRAMMING WASN'T FOR NOTHING.

Sorry to break your bubble.

There's been a lot of mixed signals on if that's really true and if it's actually 100 percent been cracked. Can you prove it?

If that's really 100 percent true then how's come I haven't seen in a @#$%storm or some kind of response from Ubisoft yet about it?

I would think if that thing has really been FULLY defeated, and I certainly want it to be...pretty soon thereafter they would just wisely dump it because that would mean it would fairly easily be cracked on any other game sporting this wretched DRM.

I hate to find myself "cheering on" pirates but I'm going to cheer on whatever it takes for this stupidity to be put to an end ASAP.

[Jito463]

My understanding is that the pirated version can play the complete storyline from beginning to end, but the sidequests aren't all there. In effect, it may as well be 100%.

Now, if Ubisoft will take a hint, and remove this DRM from AC 2, I'd be glad to give them my money. Unfortunately, they're not that bright.

[sethius777]

Why would they dump it? They will just pretend nothing happened and those who paid for the game will be the ones with a broken version.

I would buy SCC, but 5 hour campaign, stupid DRM and, i believe, 60 bucks?
No thanks.

[Ytsejam]

It's so ironic... a lot of people who pay for their games will pirate Conviction and other Ubisoft games because of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DRM that was made to prevent piracy. (Assassin's Creed 2 is already cracked, so what's the point in keeping this bs?)

It's sad, I waited for Conviction for so long, but I will never buy any game with this stupid DRM crap. Furthermore, 60 bucks for a 5 hour long single player campaign? What a joke. I enjoy multi player games like Team Fortress 2 and the Battlefield series, but when it comes to SC, all that matters to me is the single player.

Guess I'll have to find another way to play Conviction. Way to go Ubisoft.

[Jito463]

Can you still rent game consoles? For a 5-hour campaign, you could rent a console (assuming - like me - you're a PC only individual) and the game for a mere fraction of the cost of the full game for PC. No online DRM, and Ubisoft doesn't get your $60. I'm sorely tempted to do this.

[sujerre]

There's been a lot of mixed signals on if that's really true and if it's actually 100 percent been cracked. Can you prove it?

If that's really 100 percent true then how's come I haven't seen in a @#$%storm or some kind of response from Ubisoft yet about it?

I would think if that thing has really been FULLY defeated, and I certainly want it to be...pretty soon thereafter they would just wisely dump it because that would mean it would fairly easily be cracked on any other game sporting this wretched DRM.

I hate to find myself "cheering on" pirates but I'm going to cheer on whatever it takes for this stupidity to be put to an end ASAP.

Initialy the game was "cracked" but unplayable, you could run around the city but nothing else. DRM Haters jumped on the opportunity to call the game "cracked". They were wrong, and told so by Ubisoft and it's fanbois.

It took a week or two before the first functional server emulator and challenge/response PAIR (the way the Ubisoft server works is at certain points the client sends a challenge to the server, the game does not continue if the correct response is not received by the client) values, steadily the PAIRs got completed until right now 99% of the game (I think they're short a few treasures and an assassination contract) can be completed.

The surface debate is still about the initial, 0day crack and it's legitimacy, and the release of the functioning client/server has been obscured by it.

I finished the game several days ago, I can assure you it is very real, a quick google search with the information I have given will prove it.

[DFA]

eh, guess it sucks for people with no/limited internet

dont worry me to much, IM EXCITED!

you shouldn't be excited it's not just your connection but there's too Ubisofts servers are constantly going down/crashing which wll also force you too quit

AC2 has not been cracked properly they can barely play the game from what i hear e.g. can't save games can't load levels idk if it's true or not but im pretty sure it is im not sure because i dont have AC2

[sujerre]

you shouldn't be excited it's not just your connection but there's too Ubisofts servers are constantly going down/crashing which wll also force you too quit

AC2 has not been cracked properly they can barely play the game from what i hear e.g. can't save games can't load levels idk if it's true or not but im pretty sure it is im not sure because i dont have AC2

Read my post. The entire game is playable without any sort of defects or broken mechanics.

[Ytsejam]

Can you still rent game consoles? For a 5-hour campaign, you could rent a console (assuming - like me - you're a PC only individual) and the game for a mere fraction of the cost of the full game for PC. No online DRM, and Ubisoft doesn't get your $60. I'm sorely tempted to do this.

Here in Brazil I remember there was places where you could rent games and consoles, I used to rent a lot for my old Genesis (as you can see it was a long time ago). Nowadays I don't think there are such places, at least here.

I'll find another way to play it, if you know what I mean.

Read my post. The entire game is playable without any sort of defects or broken mechanics.

That's right. It is just a matter of time until the same happens with Conviction.

[erwem576]

Initialy the game was "cracked" but unplayable, you could run around the city but nothing else. DRM Haters jumped on the opportunity to call the game "cracked". They were wrong, and told so by Ubisoft and it's fanbois.

It took a week or two before the first functional server emulator and challenge/response PAIR (the way the Ubisoft server works is at certain points the client sends a challenge to the server, the game does not continue if the correct response is not received by the client) values, steadily the PAIRs got completed until right now 99% of the game (I think they're short a few treasures and an assassination contract) can be completed.

The surface debate is still about the initial, 0day crack and it's legitimacy, and the release of the functioning client/server has been obscured by it.

I finished the game several days ago, I can assure you it is very real, a quick google search with the information I have given will prove it.

Yup, you're right.

If that's the case then that means these guys will be more adept on cracking this DRM on the other Ubisoft titles. The DDOS attacks will be fast, worse and then it will be over.

So how many cycles of this rubbish will we have to go through before Ubisoft finally returns to common sense and reality?

Or will they?

[erwem576]

They should stick a big sticker on the box.

ONLY AVAILABLE TO THOSE WHO LIVE IN BIG CITIES IN AMERICA.

Nobody I know has a 1MB connection. >_>

Another lost sale here.

It doesn't matter what kind of Internet you have. If that thing farts on their side, down it goes.

When those DDOS attacks happened, lots of people with AWESOME internet went down all the same.

But that's the point: Yes, piracy is the root problem but the cycle of publishers overreacting in the wrong direction leads us to this kind of garbage.

It should be a non issue especially for a single player game. I shouldn't have to suck off and be reliant the Internet's ♥♥♥ for everything and I don't want to. It's past absurd for a single player game.

At least Steam has an offline mode, among other things.

[Jito463]

They should stick a big sticker on the box.

ONLY AVAILABLE TO THOSE WHO LIVE IN BIG CITIES IN AMERICA.

Nobody I know has a 1MB connection. >_>

Another lost sale here.

It doesn't require nearly that much bandwidth, but for me it's the principle of the matter, not the bandwidth issue. Heck, I have a 12Mb connection, and I still refuse to purchase any software (Ubisoft or otherwise) which has this hideous, draconian DRM.

[Ytsejam]

It doesn't require nearly that much bandwidth, but for me it's the principle of the matter, not the bandwidth issue. Heck, I have a 12Mb connection, and I still refuse to purchase any software (Ubisoft or otherwise) which has this hideous, draconian DRM.

I have a 6mb connection and I think the same way. I don't care if the requirement is a 100mb connection or a simple dial-up. Just the fact that I have to stay connected in order to prove I'm not a f*cking thief is absurd. Besides,what if my connection goes down? What if Ubisux servers go offline? I won't be able to play a single player offline campaign? It's beyond believe.

I'm not against DRM (although it's been proved it doesn't work) as long it doesn't have installation limits or this ridiculous online requirement. It doesn't matter if it costs $60 or $1. I'll never spend a dime on any game with that kind of DRM.

[Suhov]

Who gave Banhammer to Ubi? looks like they perma ban everyone who say their DRM sucks.