*Vid* Ask AVP's Rebellion 10 Questions! Interview

[AngryJoeShow]

Alright guys!
Here's your Chance.
Its been about a month so I thought it would be cool to do this now.

Time to get answers to all of our burning questions!

I've scheduled an Interview with the Developers over at Rebellion and I wanted to give my PC Brothers a chance to come up with some questions of their own!

I hear theres been alot of rage :o over Dedicated Servers, if someone would fill me in on this (i play the xbox 360 version) and possibly phrase a question for it, that would be great!

Final Judgment - Developer Interview with Your Q's! (http://angryjoeshow.com/?p=6634)
http://angryjoeshow.com/?p=6634


Ask Rebellion anything regarding their Aliens Vs Predator Franchise, and remember im looking for the best, most interesting and even sometimes funny questions! I’ll select maybe about 10, throw in a few of my own and set it over to Rebellion HQ for Answering!

This is obviously more of an "afterwards" what you thought, what you hated, what's next, what when into the process kinda thing so form them appropriately.

Angry Joe
www.angryjoeshow.com

[Vladplaya]

Joe you are the man! And your vids rock! Hold on though, let me go cook my breakfast really quick and then I will come back with my questions hehe

[SquareTriangle]

This is great, wow. I need to think carefully of questions. Thankyou Joe :D

Ok I would ask:

1.Will you ever release the SDK and tools necessary for modding? If not why not? There are some people that really love this game.

2.When are the servers going to get fixed and come out of beta aka ping reduction to normal levels (30-70 for servers in your area), ability to change species in match, team balancing, species balancing. Or what is the final server product going to include?

Here is my attempt at phrasing a question about the dedi's (which I will probably edit as and when my poor intelligence does something groovey):

3.How do you (Rebellion) feel that dedicated servers were not ready in time for release? Alot of the community are upset that they werent ready and as PC gamers feel mistreated and cheated. By releasing the dedicated servers in the way you did you have made it very difficult for the AvP community to actually take hold, if it ever does. You have offended alot of gamers and made it impossible almost for the game to succeed. Why werent they ready for release?

[Whiskeyleech]

sorry but I don't do B.S. promo for someone's site. Not your personal army. Even if it is for "me"

[Creeping Death]

How's this; How can they expect us to pay for a few maps when 1. the Multiplayer is still fairly broken, and 2. giving it for free to everyone would ensure the already small online community would remain intact.

[Whiskeyleech]

Create a Steam group. set a date and time. Get the devs ONLINE. open a chat at designated date/time. set rules. let users ask questions one at a time in a reasonable manner.

when you do that, I'm on-board.

until you do that, I see this as nothing but a shameless plug for your site.

[Wolfrip_Sixshot]

Create a Steam group. set a date and time. Get the devs ONLINE. open a chat at designated date/time. set rules. let users ask questions one at a time in a reasonable manner.

when you do that, I'm on-board.

until you do that, I see this as nothing but a shameless plug for your site.

Always one sour puss.

Reasonable questions? without insults? on this forum? given the troll population? unlikely lol

Joe is interviewing Rebellion. If you don't like it then don't take part.

[AFireEternal]

I find it funny how there's constant ♥♥♥♥♥ing on these forums about how the devs don't listen to the community, and then when someone is going to be able to ask them some real questions directly, you complain about how it's a shameless plug for their site. Who cares? If we get some answers, really, who ♥♥♥♥ing cares?

The questions I would ask are:

1) What are you working on for the future of AvP? (patch information foremost, then DLC and maybe a sequel)
2) Is there any possibility at all of mod tools being released at this point?
3) Will dedicated servers ever be ranked?
4) Will you be adding more content than maps to the game?

[Vladplaya]

Create a Steam group. set a date and time. Get the devs ONLINE. open a chat at designated date/time. set rules. let users ask questions one at a time in a reasonable manner.

when you do that, I'm on-board.

until you do that, I see this as nothing but a shameless plug for your site.

Dude the reason why he got this chance to ask devs few questions IS because his sight got popular enough that devs see it as worth dealing with. It is obvious that you have no idea how it all works, but it was NOT up to him on what kind of interview he got. Developers agree for an interview, and they set their rules. The last thing they need is live chat with fans so they will be asked bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ QQ question, because you know that's exactly what would happen.

[Whiskeyleech]

Always one sour puss.


why should I have to join another site/community when all the tools to talk to devs are right here? sour puss? NO. there is no reason to even go to his site. NONE.

@ above poster. don't care how it works. never heard of him before. HE can do ALL OF THAT RIGHT HERE. IN THIS COMMUNITY.

[scarh791]

I think it would be really important not to puss out and ask the one really tough question everyone wants the answer to: "What do you have to say to the charges that you released a broken, unfinished game that many buyers are suffering with?" They'll deflect I'm sure, but it should at least be put to them directly. I would follow with a question about the logic of charging for a DLC from a now almost non-existent PC multiplayer community.

[Ravenbar]

1) What additional features not currently implemented are planned for the final version of dedicated servers?

[sirlemonhead]

Ask them what the possibility is of releasing the source code and assets for Aliens Vs Predator for the Atari Jaguar :)

[Nethlem]

Create a Steam group. set a date and time. Get the devs ONLINE. open a chat at designated date/time. set rules. let users ask questions one at a time in a reasonable manner.

when you do that, I'm on-board.

until you do that, I see this as nothing but a shameless plug for your site.

Doesn't work, i've seen dev-chats held trough steam chat before. And it's usually just a big big mess because steam chat lacks decent moderating tools.


How's this; How can they expect us to pay for a few maps when 1. the Multiplayer is still fairly broken, and 2. giving it for free to everyone would ensure the already small online community would remain intact.


THIS!
And add to that: How are german PC gamers supposed to buy that DLC? I mean even if they wanted to they couldn't..

[Whiskeyleech]

Doesn't work, i've seen dev-chats held trough steam chat before. And it's usually just a big big mess because steam chat lacks decent moderating tools.

then perhaps it's time for steam to get off of their collective behinds as well and incorporate some. I mean...

[Vladplaya]

My questions:

1) How much exactly influence does SEGA have when it comes to anything? Does SEGA decides when there will be next patch, and what will be fixed, and do any balancing issues need to be approved by SEGA before they can be fixed?

2) Are there gonna be Stand Alone Dedicated servers, which can be installed and ran on a computer without having to own full copy of the game and without having to run Steam? Such feature would allow companies to rent servers on superior computers with extremely fast connection and thus unleashing the full potential of the multiplayer for the PC community.

3) It is Obvious that current XP system with skin unlocks are completely LAME. Considering the disadvantage of lag in the matchmaking system, playing ranked games is just not fun, especially for the sake of few new skins. Why not let players have all the skins from the beginning, or at least make ranked dedicated servers? or perhaps developers already have other plans on how to improve that part of the game?

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[Vladplaya]

then perhaps it's time for steam to get off of their collective behinds as well and incorporate some. I mean...

You just keep dreaming bro.

[ightenhill]

1)What was the point in releasing versions that split the community

2)What is the point of releasing DLC maps that are worthless as there is no one to play those maps with due to the problems caused by question 1

3)Why have there been no dev comments about any notable issues since the launch of the game

[deadparrot]

1) where do you want me to stick it?

[IGingerMadManI]

why the multiplayer isn't compatible with thomson routers? (Most used router in the UK with BT and O2)

Why they felt the need to add motion tracker and time limit to predator hunt mode?

Just how does it feel expanding on an epic series such as AvP?

[Whiskeyleech]

you people as a STEAM COMMUNITY should be OUTRAGED that the Devs are taking the time to go to someone else's site and answer questions.

I didn't have to validate my purchase thru SEGA.
I didn't have to validate my purchase thru joe.com
I DID have to validate thru STEAM. If STEAM wants to put their name on it they sure as hell should be setting stuff like this up.

also it's not that hard to set up an mirc channel! I mean..yeah..

[Wolfrip_Sixshot]

1. Is the dev team that worked on AVP still working on adding muiltiplayer features for AVP including more match settings and options?

2. Are any of the devs free to work on mod tools and what would it take for you to work on adding mod tools to AVP if your not already working on them?

3. Do you see yourselves working on a expansion for AVP or going stright to a sequal?

4. How long are you commited to supporting the current AVP 2010 release with patches DLC and added server/online options?

5. How likely will it be that you will work on a lifecycle mode and classes in a AVP sequal or expansion? (this is VERY important)

6. The rank system is currently just a grind to get skins. Have you any plans to get rid of the ranked system or make all matches ranked without restrictions?

7. Muiltiplayer game modes are currently held back by many restrictions and a lack of options. Do you plan of giving the AVP online community more freedom on how they run their muiltiplayer games including more options? (such as 2 or 3 predators in predator hunt mode or 3 way domination maps)

8. A lot of the communiity agrees that AVP 2010 seems rushed to the release date before it was baked. This is due to lack of dedicated servers and shallow muiltiplayer options. What do you have to say about this?

9. Do you think it was a oversight to not include popular game features such as crouch, iron sights and capture the flag mode? (with a AVP spin) and how likely are you to include these features in a expansion or sequal?

10. Did any of you devs play AVP2 and if you did do you plan on stealing the better features from that game? ;)

[spacebug]

I want to know:

- will they consider adding a crouch function to the PC version.

- who was the person who was playing Team Fortress 2 in the background of Jason's Gadget Show interview? Good to know those guys appreciate good PC shooters :)

Dedicated server rage summed up - on release there were no dedicated servers, we had to play games that were hosted by a single person, giving the host a huge zero-ping advantage (despite press releases stating that the game would definately have dedicated server support). After a week or so the dedicated servers arrived. They are in "beta". There are a lot of options missing which are standard for dedicated servers in other games (automatic map rotation, that kind of thing). They are better than player hosted, since everyone is on an even playing field and the pings tend to be better. The other big annoyance is that we can only gain ranked by playing player hosted matches (and the only way to unlock skins is by gaining rank). Nobody is playing ranked matches anymore.

Phrased as a question - Do Rebellion plan any extra features for Dedicated Servers once they come out of beta, and is there any chance we will be able to gain rank in dedicated servers?

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Everyone moaning about the DLC - just want to point out that this will have been something that SEGA chose to do, I doubt Rebellion had any say in the matter.

[Gilgamar]

you people as a STEAM COMMUNITY should be OUTRAGED that the Devs are taking the time to go to someone else's site and answer questions.
Joe asked them and they agreed, I don't see a single reason to be outraged because of that.
What are the devs supposed to do? Open a thread on the Steam forums? That would be the dumbest idea ever with all those trolls here
So Joe's here, collecting questions from...from...damn...from whom again? Oh yeah: the friggin' STEAM COMMUNITY, so what exactly is your problem?

There is something really wrong with some people on these forums...

[Lyphen]

Q: Even though sales are good, you lost a lot of good will by releasing buggy, incomplete multiplayer. What makes you think you can pull the same bait and switch with a sequel? What will Rebellion do to fix it's reputation with the PC community, which hasn't been all that great over the last 10 years?

[Kurakkon]

One, single question....

Why was the decision made to remove crouch and terrain-hugging from players (Marines mainly), when the engine clearly accommodates it. As can be seen by the androids in the SP campaigns.

[Whiskeyleech]

Joe asked them and they agreed, I don't see a single reason to be outraged because of that.
What are the devs supposed to do? Open a thread on the Steam forums? That would be the dumbest idea ever with all those trolls here
So Joe's here, collecting questions from...from...damn...from whom again? Oh yeah: the friggin' STEAM COMMUNITY, so what exactly is your problem?

There is something really wrong with some people on these forums...

kids these days.

This isn't a community at all. if it were, his shameless plug would be taken down (or it would have never even need to happen), and the STEAM entity ITSELF would set this up. THAT is community. THAT is how it's done.

the blind leading the blind. they have you kids fooled and groomed well these days. yes'siree they do.

[Wolfrip_Sixshot]

Most of you are asking questions that have already been answered or asking questions that are based on YOUR insulting put opinion not on the communitys as a whole.

Whiskey drop it. If you don't want to take part then leave. No amount of complaining will get you anywhere.

[Gilgamar]

kids these days.
I'm not the one behaving like a kid. You are the one crying about a chance to ask the devs some questions, which is just stupid.

This isn't a community at all. if it were, his shameless plug would be taken down (or it would have never even need to happen)
Report the post, that's what the report function is for, although I doubt that anyone will care about the report.

and the STEAM entity ITSELF would set this up. THAT is community. THAT is how it's done.
And what would the big difference be? Someone is asking Rebellion some questions, questions this person is gathering from the people...HERE in the Steam forums, the result would be pretty much the same...

the blind leading the blind. they have you kids fooled and groomed well these days. yes'siree they do.
Why do you call other people kids, when it's you who behaves like one?
There is not a single reason to cry about this opportunity, why would there be? Just because you don't know the AngryJoeShow? Who gives a ♥♥♥♥...seriously...
There is someone who has the chance to talk with them and you whine about it.
Talk about blind here.

[SquareTriangle]

I'm not the one behaving like a kid. You are the one crying about a chance to ask the devs some questions, which is just stupid.


Report the post, that's what the report function is for, although I doubt that anyone will care about the report.


And what would the big difference be? Someone is asking Rebellion some questions, questions this person is gathering from the people...HERE in the Steam forums, the result would be pretty much the same...


Why do you call other people kids, when it's you who behaves like one?
There is not a single reason to cry about this opportunity, why would there be? Just because you don't know the AngryJoeShow? Who gives a ♥♥♥♥...seriously...
There is someone who has the chance to talk with them and you whine about it.
Talk about blind here.

And Joe has been kind enough to come here and ask us what questions we would like to ask, based on what he heard that we were angry with the way Sega/Rebellion released the game and how they support it. My first thought was to give Joe rep.

[Joyless]

I posted only three questions on the youtube video:
1.) Why base the game's multiplayer and single player combat in a rock paper scissors melee combat system?
2.) Many people feel elements of each species had been weakened or strengthened, leading to the conclusion that certain species dominate the others. Could the multiplayer have used more balancing before ship?
3.) No dedicated servers at launch, hectic lobby system, useless ranking system, unpopular game modes. Was there any thought put into improving this game's playability and longevity?

[Whiskeyleech]

I'm not the one behaving like a kid. You are the one crying about a chance to ask the devs some questions, which is just stupid.
NO. stupid is blindly following someone who is clearly an ambulance chaser looking for some thunder, or site hits, in this case.


Report the post, that's what the report function is for, although I doubt that anyone will care about the report.
I don't snitch, that is a mod job.

And what would the big difference be? Someone is asking Rebellion some questions, questions this person is gathering from the people...HERE in the Steam forums, the result would be pretty much the same...
which is why he can and should do it completely on this site, not his.


Why do you call other people kids, when it's you who behaves like one?
I call it like I see it. if you think it's childish then you've got a lot of growing up to do.
There is not a single reason to cry about this opportunity, why would there be? Just because you don't know the AngryJoeShow? Who gives a ♥♥♥♥...seriously...
There is someone who has the chance to talk with them and you whine about it.
Talk about blind here.
just lol. So, you really think joe is for the betterment of this game, or site hits? the blind are truly blind. If he were for the betterment of this game, he wouldn't have to ask US, he could one on one with the devs, and post the results. I bet he doesn't play AvP3 lol. maybe the demo.

the "community" has already asked and spoken the questions joe wants to know/get to the devs, days ago. he's just trying to ride the lightning. see it for what it is.

[Gilgamar]

And Joe has been kind enough to come here and ask us what questions we would like to ask, based on what he heard that we were angry with the way Sega/Rebellion released the game and how they support it. My first thought was to give Joe rep.
THIS. SO MUCH!

You should thank him for what he is doing for us, instead of ranting about it, which makes no sense whatsoever anyways.

EDIT:
Wow Whiskeyleech, just get out of this thread if you can't appreciate what other people are doing for us.
And what if he is doing it for the site hits? Who cares? You get your questions answered, so why whine about something like that? Just for the sake of crying?
Rebellion agreed to do it, that means he must be some sort of known, right? So most likely he gets enough hits without doing stuff like this, RIGHT?

I'm obviously not the one who has some growing up to do.

[Wolfrip_Sixshot]

Keep on complaining about every little thing whiskeyleech. I am sure the devs will grant you a private interview based on repetition of complaints already covered a 1000 times over ;)

[Whiskeyleech]

Keep on complaining about every little thing whiskeyleech. I am sure the devs will grant you a private interview based on repetition of complaints already covered a 1000 times over ;)

If I wanted to really talk to them, it wouldn't be thru this type of media (forums). you'd be surprised how things can get tossed around with the right e-mail addys and at a corporate level.

just like joe.

[Wolfrip_Sixshot]

If I wanted to really talk to them, it wouldn't be thru this type of media (forums). you'd be surprised how things can get tossed around with the right e-mail addys and at a corporate level.

just like joe.

Then why are you here?

You could be providing us with the same or better service then joe right? right? ;)

[Whiskeyleech]

Then why are you here?

You could be providing us with the same or better service then joe right? right? ;)

show me the money. this is what steam should be getting paid for. right? right?

[Khasim]

MOAR FLAME FOR THE QQ MOBILE!

When will people start to ignore the whiny crybabies?
AngryJoe, you wanted some questions, here are mine:

1. What is the approximate ETA on Dedicated Servers 1.0? What are the features you are working on to implement, and I don't mean bugfixing.
2. What is the approximate ETA on releasing the SE-only maps to everyone and will they be free?
3. Since the game is said to be a financial success, does that mean you aren't going to support or polish the game too much so that you can release a "bigger, better, more bada$$" sequel? I don't think people who bought the game will be happy when it'll turn out that they've just been used as guinea pigs and/or beta testers.
4. Are you considering the possibility of reworking the ranking system? Like, letting us create dedicated ranked servers (ranked matchmaking is dead now, and I want mah skins...) or changing the system entirely?
5. Why didn't you murder AngryJoe for giving it only a 7/10?

[ASnogarD]

Yeah, see if they have some balls and answer how they can justify selling us DLC when the game still needs to be fixed, cheeck as hell if you ask me.

[Wolfrip_Sixshot]

show me the money. this is what steam should be getting paid for. right? right?

Joining the forum is free. Posting is free.

Listening to people complain about the same bloody subjects every bloody day is also free although i wish they charged us for that service ;)

[Gilgamar]

show me the money. this is what steam should be getting paid for. right? right?
Joe isn't getting any money from us, so why would we want to give you money?

[Whiskeyleech]

Joining the forum is free. Posting is free.

Listening to people complain about the same bloody subjects every bloody day is also free although i wish they charged us for that service ;)

Thank Steam. my game account was inactive since...'05 or '06 until the day I met AvP3 (release). never bothered to have a forum account because in the past, never really had a problem with steam or the products it chose to endorse. I lurked while the pirate trolls trolled, only to get to the meat and potatoes to find it's in a sad state, and nothing is going to be able to get it right.

also I don't think you would wish they charge you, I think you would wish that they'd PAY you.

@ gilgamar. ASK JOE.

[TonyTheTiger]

1. Is the dev team that worked on AVP still working on adding muiltiplayer features for AVP including more match settings and options?

2. Are any of the devs free to work on mod tools and what would it take for you to work on adding mod tools to AVP if your not already working on them?

9. Do you think it was a oversight to not include popular game features such as crouch, iron sights and capture the flag mode? (with a AVP spin) and how likely are you to include these features in a expansion or sequal?
agree with these questions.
We need need more options with the game modes we have currently and we could use some more game modes such as a capture the flag/item and destroy a base or area of importance.

This game needs a bunch of patches if it wants to compete with games today including the newly released bad company 2. Its going to die really fast without some urgent updates.

Also some more questions:

1) Is there gonna be a lan option available that doesn't require internet (very important)

2) Are certain game modes going to be balanced out better such as predator hunt. Things like
-removing the time limit, fixing the radar so it can't distinguish between enemy or foe or removing radar completely.
-giving the predator extra health and weapons, etc so he can actually stand a chance against a bunch of marines. Right now predator hunt is literally find the predator as fast as u can because he sucks on his own.
-another thing that would help the predator (all modes including this one) would be a better cloak since marines can spot it way too easy. It should only show the sparks when hes sprinting at least, not when hes normal running.

3) Are certain weapons going to be buffed? Such as
-the marine flamethrower
-smart gun, needs more ammo, etc
-marines need more weapons in general, possibly grenades
-predator throwing spear (possibly getting a speed increase and not lose cloak when thrown).
-The plasma caster to use slightly less energy since it uses too much and also shares ammo with the mines. It doesnt have enough ammo to compete with a bunch of marines. The uncharge shot is also very weak.

4) Ranking is a problem because it is divided between match making and regular play. Ranking should build up no matter what (like in other good games)

5) Are you going to remove the feature that requires people to hold down e to pick up a gun/pred weapon. Weapon pickup should be instant. It slows down the game too much and leaves you open to attack. This delay is more noticeable when people have higher pings. There is also a delay when predators want to use a recharge station.

6)In general people feel that the alien stealth kill distance reaches too far and pulls marines towards them. This happens even when a marine turns around to face the alien, he is flipped back around and killed.

7) Is alien wall clinging going to be made better? Right now its not that great and the camera is very confusing, constantly changing and making it hard to focus on a target.

This quote was pulled from a thread that could possibly help with some alien changes.

"Fact #1: It forces autotransitions down ledges and on several surfaces even with the Auto-Transition option turned off in the options menu, sometimes resulting in players being stuck and unable to auto-transition back off.

Fact #2: The camera forces auto-center on uneven surfaces, such as at the top of the temple, which causes a jerky camera.

Suggestion #1: Add a toggle function for Auto-Transition and add a "limited auto-transition" option to the options menu, allowing players to choose to have NO auto-transition, the default partial auto-transition, or full auto-transition if they wish.

Suggestion #2: Make auto-center optional and add an auto-center key.

In AvP 1 and 2 auto-center was optional and auto-transition could be toggled. There was also an Auto-Center key."

First page from this thread
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1163867

Heres an explanation of how the camera is very disorienting
Think of it this way...when you go running down a rocky road in real life do your eyes look straight up, then level, then straight down, then level every time you step on a rock an off again? No it doesn't. The same should hold true for alien vision when running over a bumpy surface...but it doesn't. Every little bump re-orients your vision parallel to the surface of the bump...so when going over a support girder instead of just stepping over it and continuing to see forward (which it should be) you change vision angles relative to the overall surface 4 times (level, up, level, down, level)

[Joshua-EX]

Support & bump!!! I hope they will do something after this interview!!!

[KalibosVII]

Just ignore Whiskey. He's just trying to get a rise out of people.

Go ahead and call me a blind child, Whiskey.

Ontopic:

Are there any ideas being kicked around regarding objective based gamemodes (more sophisticated than domination)?

[TonyTheTiger]

yeah thats what i suggested, we need more game modes! with lots of options

[Nethlem]

Heh i think at this point joe realized in what a hornetnest he just poked :D

Don't mind it, most folks around here are usualy pretty cool. But the recent news about the "DLC" just is a little bit too much bad news even for most of the loyal fans.

[SquareTriangle]

Ontopic:

Are there any ideas being kicked around regarding objective based gamemodes (more sophisticated than domination)?

Aye, hear hear. Me being a L4D2 fanatic, I would like to see some objective, team based, 3 way gameplay, or just some objective team based gameplay.

[timka2274]

sooo much anger... soo much anger, just reply to joe's post and for gods sake please let there be 1 thread where things are smooth, as much as i appreciate you guys for telling whiskey off, you are just feeding the troll so leave him alone

[Whiskeyleech]

I think you kids need a lesson on what a troll is. you have NO CLUE as to what one is, what one does. it's today's scapegoat for the blind. Learn to be Leaders, not followers.

he disagreed with me -Troll-
he doesn't nutcup others -Troll-
kids, are called just that. kids -Troll-
kids not seeing what the op is doing, for HIS OWN benefit -Troll-
kids thinking the outcome of 10 questions ANYONE asks the devs will change the game's fate -Troll-

OP has the testicles to call me his PC brother, yet doesn't even own the title for PC.

[Roman32]

I think you kids need a lesson on what a troll is. you have NO CLUE as to what one is, what one does. it's today's scapegoat for the blind. Learn to be Leaders, not followers.

he disagreed with me -Troll-
he doesn't nutcup others -Troll-
kids, are called just that. kids -Troll-
kids not seeing what the op is doing, for HIS OWN benefit -Troll-
kids thinking the outcome of 10 questions ANYONE asks the devs will change the game's fate -Troll-

OP has the testicles to call me his PC brother, yet doesn't even own the title for PC.
As much as people love to hate you, you bring up some valid points. I've been seeing A LOT of "troll" labeling flying around for basically... posts that are far from "trolling."

That's all I have to say.

[Old King]

ask them why they made pred so OP

[(Fratt)Behemoth]

aked before, but I feel like it's very important

Any possibility of Game modes in-depth customization ? (ex : removing the Motion Tracker from the Predator Hunt, or removing his IFF function for Infestation).

[timka2274]

I think you kids need a lesson on what a troll is. you have NO CLUE as to what one is, what one does. it's today's scapegoat for the blind. Learn to be Leaders, not followers.

he disagreed with me -Troll-
he doesn't nutcup others -Troll-
kids, are called just that. kids -Troll-
kids not seeing what the op is doing, for HIS OWN benefit -Troll-
kids thinking the outcome of 10 questions ANYONE asks the devs will change the game's fate -Troll-

OP has the testicles to call me his PC brother, yet doesn't even own the title for PC.

i know your actually not a troll, but i just love seeing ya bust a vein, got some juicy response outta u boy.

I know these 10 questions probably will not work, and they might not do anything about it, but why not give it a shot?

[milktree]

where do you actually post the comments?

[Whiskeyleech]

i know your actually not a troll, but i just love seeing ya bust a vein, got some juicy response outta u boy.

I know these 10 questions probably will not work, and they might not do anything about it, but why not give it a shot?

If joe would have had a sit-down with us BEFORE he set up this deal, I might have. Him setting the deal up and then running to the community for what he would have you think, -your gain- is just as dodgy as rebellion cowering away from the same questions asked a 100x on these very forums. I will call it for what it is. poop.

ride the lightning, chase the ambulance, call it what you will, it is, what it is. No reason the devs can't talk here. Joe for that matter...he can link to this site via his site.

[Old King]

no seriously ask rebellion why they like to ride pred ♥♥♥♥ so hard :mad:

[AngryJoeShow]

Create a Steam group. set a date and time. Get the devs ONLINE. open a chat at designated date/time. set rules. let users ask questions one at a time in a reasonable manner.

when you do that, I'm on-board.

until you do that, I see this as nothing but a shameless plug for your site.

That's actually a pretty good idea, though im not sure how I could make a video out of that... Possibly afterwards take the best questions from the chat and put them into the video a sort of best of compilation?

Im sure it would be alot harder to get Dev's in a chat, some people dont know how to be civil and mostly just act like big jack-@$$'s like half of these people who see this as a "shameless promo" LoL!!

Its entertainment and information in one, don't like that your not the one setting it up? Then Move along.

[AngryJoeShow]

I think it would be really important not to puss out and ask the one really tough question everyone wants the answer to: "What do you have to say to the charges that you released a broken, unfinished game that many buyers are suffering with?" They'll deflect I'm sure, but it should at least be put to them directly. I would follow with a question about the logic of charging for a DLC from a now almost non-existent PC multiplayer community.

Dont worry I dont plan on "Pussing out" if ANGRY JOE cant be the one who's tough and honest (while still giving credit where credit is due) than whats the point of the Angry Joe Show?

But im not going to be asking questions like, "Your game sucks and I hate it, how do you feel about that?".

Your question that the game is broken and unfinished isnt true. Now I havent played the PC version but for the xbox version it is certainly playable.

I could ask them, where the hell the new alien types that tim jones promised where? The spitting alien doesnt count.
Or whats the deal with dedicated servers on PC - thats why I posted here, I was hoping you guys would clear up this issue for me.
Apparently it was promised, then not delivered, then now it out, but still in Beta? is this correct?

[AngryJoeShow]

My questions:

1) How much exactly influence does SEGA have when it comes to anything? Does SEGA decides when there will be next patch, and what will be fixed, and do any balancing issues need to be approved by SEGA before they can be fixed?

2) Are there gonna be Stand Alone Dedicated servers, which can be installed and ran on a computer without having to own full copy of the game and without having to run Steam? Such feature would allow companies to rent servers on superior computers with extremely fast connection and thus unleashing the full potential of the multiplayer for the PC community.

3) It is Obvious that current XP system with skin unlocks are completely LAME. Considering the disadvantage of lag in the matchmaking system, playing ranked games is just not fun, especially for the sake of few new skins. Why not let players have all the skins from the beginning, or at least make ranked dedicated servers? or perhaps developers already have other plans on how to improve that part of the game?

.

OOooOO these are juicy! Great questions here man! ;)

[Whiskeyleech]

Alright guys!
I hear theres been alot of rage :o over Dedicated Servers, if someone would fill me in on this (i play the xbox 360 version) and possibly phrase a question for it, that would be great!


exploiting people's grief may be entertainment and information to you but to me it's a cheap tabloid trick not worth the 25 cent paper it's printed on, or for that matter, the .txt file or .swf it is saved to.

Buy the PC game, play it for yourself. then come to the community. or, move along.

[AngryJoeShow]

I want to know:

- will they consider adding a crouch function to the PC version.

- who was the person who was playing Team Fortress 2 in the background of Jason's Gadget Show interview? Good to know those guys appreciate good PC shooters :)

Dedicated server rage summed up - on release there were no dedicated servers, we had to play games that were hosted by a single person, giving the host a huge zero-ping advantage (despite press releases stating that the game would definately have dedicated server support). After a week or so the dedicated servers arrived. They are in "beta". There are a lot of options missing which are standard for dedicated servers in other games (automatic map rotation, that kind of thing). They are better than player hosted, since everyone is on an even playing field and the pings tend to be better. The other big annoyance is that we can only gain ranked by playing player hosted matches (and the only way to unlock skins is by gaining rank). Nobody is playing ranked matches anymore.

Phrased as a question - Do Rebellion plan any extra features for Dedicated Servers once they come out of beta, and is there any chance we will be able to gain rank in dedicated servers?


Thanks Spacebug! Cleared it up for me. Now Im up to speed.
So what other Dedicated Server features are you PC guys looking for?

[AngryJoeShow]

kids these days.

This isn't a community at all. if it were, his shameless plug would be taken down (or it would have never even need to happen), and the STEAM entity ITSELF would set this up. THAT is community. THAT is how it's done.

the blind leading the blind. they have you kids fooled and groomed well these days. yes'siree they do.

This guy is a total effing tool. :)

I really shouldn't be responding to him, but I'd like to point out there are plenty of genuine people in this world that actually care about the way their favorite franchise (aliens, predator) are being handled. And would do anything in their power to try to influence any future games for the better.

...Just Amazing. LoL. Are you on medication? Im trying to "ride the lighting"? Dude this game came out a month ago, thats like YEARS in the high speed gaming market - who gives a crap what the devs have to say about it 1 month later - if i wanted massive hits I would have setup interview BEFORE the game released where BRAND new details could be extracted.

Total...effin...Tool.

[Whiskeyleech]

This guy is a total effing tool. :)
I see. That is all I need. TY.

[AngryJoeShow]

I see. That is all I need. TY.

Your insane. Do you have any idea how foolish you look? How old are you....you know what? Forget it. Please leave this thread.

Seriously.:mad:

[-Veritas]

How's this; How can they expect us to pay for a few maps when 1. the Multiplayer is still fairly broken, and 2. giving it for free to everyone would ensure the already small online community would remain intact.

Ask them this for sure. I'm still laughing at the prospect of paying for their maps. Great show by the way, really enjoy it.

edit: And I agree with the above.

[Whiskeyleech]

...Just Amazing. LoL. Are you on medication? Im trying to "ride the lighting"? Dude this game came out a month ago, thats like YEARS in the high speed gaming market - who gives a crap what the devs have to say about it 1 month later - if i wanted massive hits I would have setup interview BEFORE the game released where BRAND new details could be extracted.

Total...effin...Tool.

dig yourself deeper. you're damning yourself.

[AngryJoeShow]

MOAR FLAME FOR THE QQ MOBILE!

When will people start to ignore the whiny crybabies?
AngryJoe, you wanted some questions, here are mine:

1. What is the approximate ETA on Dedicated Servers 1.0? What are the features you are working on to implement, and I don't mean bugfixing.
2. What is the approximate ETA on releasing the SE-only maps to everyone and will they be free?
3. Since the game is said to be a financial success, does that mean you aren't going to support or polish the game too much so that you can release a "bigger, better, more bada$$" sequel? I don't think people who bought the game will be happy when it'll turn out that they've just been used as guinea pigs and/or beta testers.
4. Are you considering the possibility of reworking the ranking system? Like, letting us create dedicated ranked servers (ranked matchmaking is dead now, and I want mah skins...) or changing the system entirely?
5. Why didn't you murder AngryJoe for giving it only a 7/10?

Good ones, Though I think for your #2, it was to be released 30 days after release so that would be March 18th or so. If its not out by then and im still waiting on Sega (now they want to pass my questions through sega first before it gets to Tim or David), ill sneak that one in.

[-Veritas]

Whiskey, I'm sorry but just stop while you're ahead, er.. or at least before you fall further behind. You voiced your opinion, it was noted, and are now you are free to leave. This thread is for people to submit questions, not an outlet for you're jealousy motivated vendetta.

[Whiskeyleech]

naw. I want to see how this guy suckers you all in. like he said, who gives a crap what the devs say a month later...lol

[AngryJoeShow]

@TonyTheTiger
And anyone else who has EXTREMELY long and very detailed questions.

For the sake of getting alot more questions answered, it would be awesome if you could summarize or condense these huge walls of text. These are far to super specific. I like specific but not every single question.

For example I think alot of your 7 questions can be summed up with "Will see any re-balancing or small gameplay changes in an upcoming patch? If so can you detail a few?"

Notice how that question is like 2 or 3 in one with the possibility of getting a few details in the answer, as well as it being a general is there a patching coming? Question.

[AngryJoeShow]

naw. I want to see how this guy suckers you all in. like he said, who gives a crap what the devs say a month later...lol

I wanted to let you know that I reported you as harassing me, and the good people in this thread. You want the mods to do their job? I hope they do.

Now please get a life.

[Whiskeyleech]

you do realize that you are guilty of the very same thing, don't you? lucky for you, i'm not a snitch. I can make an exception though.

[AngryJoeShow]

Heh i think at this point joe realized in what a hornetnest he just poked :D

Don't mind it, most folks around here are usualy pretty cool. But the recent news about the "DLC" just is a little bit too much bad news even for most of the loyal fans.

I understand. Didn't you see it coming though, I think I read a pamphlet that said that there would be maps exclusive to the Hunter Edition game.

So your saying they will be charging for these? That would set me off big time, seeing as we only have 2 FRIGGIN' MAPS for any games above 12 player (is this the same for you PC guys, im on xbox).

[AngryJoeShow]

If joe would have had a sit-down with us BEFORE he set up this deal, I might have. Him setting the deal up and then running to the community for what he would have you think, -your gain- is just as dodgy as rebellion cowering away from the same questions asked a 100x on these very forums. I will call it for what it is. poop.

ride the lightning, chase the ambulance, call it what you will, it is, what it is. No reason the devs can't talk here. Joe for that matter...he can link to this site via his site.

Your sick. Dude, Im just one guy. I run a website all by myself, that means posting, dealing with admin issues, and managing spam. Then I make videos about gaming, which takes a massive amount of time because I add FX, parodies, and gameplay footage.

I could just sit at a table like the guys at noobtoob or half of youtube where im in my dirty room. But No I didnt want to do that - I wanted to be different, try to be entertaining, have production value.

Then ive got to let people know im out there and I made this stuff for them, On forums like AVPGalaxy (which ive been a member of for YEARS), Segas Official Forum, etc. I dont buy FPS on PC here on STEAM, I use my Console for the couch experience. This Steam forum you crawl likely everyday isnt the center of the universe, just yours.

People like you make doing this and enjoying it extremely difficult. Thank god there people like EVERYONE ELSE in this damn thread to prove you wrong.

You think im rolling in cash when people visit my website? God your ignorant. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to make money like that? NO, No you dont. Trust me man I dont do this for money I do this because I have PASSION for gaming, PASSION for movie making and Passion about improving things I care about.

The only thing you have Passion for is tearing others down. GTFO! We're done with you. My Nature wouldnt allow me to ignore someone like you, but I'll get better about this as my show continues -despite you- and hopefully ill learn to ignore the next cynical a-hole trying to ruin a good time.

If you want to continue this PM me, but dont post in this thread anymore or its clear what your doing. (I've sent you a PM).

[Vladplaya]

Thanks Spacebug! Cleared it up for me. Now Im up to speed.
So what other Dedicated Server features are you PC guys looking for?

I am not gonna say that Spacebug is wrong, but I would like to go little bit further with explanation of what exactly dedicated servers are, how they work, and what kind of dedicated servers we NEED.

Especially in situation like this where there are a lot of people who run around screaming "OMG We want out dedicated servers!!" just because that's what everyone is screaming about, but at the end they don't know SH*T about what those dedicated servers are and how they work.


Very basic description would be: servers that can run independently from the game, and provide variety of options when creating and managing the game.

The benefits: Servers can run when host is not playing the game, and are far more stable sense they are not fully linked to the game. More ways to control the game, with map rotations, game types etc.

The downsides: In OUR case with current BETA version You have to own full game to run the server. (And correct me if I am wrong but, you probably also have to have steam running to run a dedicated server? If not then great.)


So, right now the dedicated servers we have are basically are same as Matchmaking system, with little bit more options. However in most cases they do not provide better connection, as they are still can be hosted by random players with poor connection or weak computers (or both), just like Matchmaking.


What we really NEED is Standalone Dedicated Server, a dedicated server that does not require neither full version of the game nor steam.

The major benefit of such tool is that it can be hosted by companies who make money on hosting and renting out such servers to the community. So instead of hosting a server on someones crappy computer with medium connection, people would rent a server which is hosted on a super computer with extreme good connections like T3/DS3 (just to compare, DSL and Cable connection can very from $20 to $60 a month, where T3/DS3 go from $3000 to $15000 a month, and those are WAY faster than what most people have at homes)

And sense players connect to such server, they are not only gonna have good in game ping with practically no lag, there also not gonna be any favoritism to the host of the server who would normally have 0 ping in matchmaking. There are no host, it is dedicated server that runs 24/7 as long as rent is payed.


In our case it is Very important to Ask for the right tools. Because Rebellion can give us half a*ssed dedicated servers which are similar to beta we got right now. I doubt hosting companies will go as far as buying AvP game and installing it on their computers so they can host servers for the game, they might but that's just would be pain in the a*s for them. So hopefully Rebellion know what they are doing and will give the game what it needs with minimum hassle.


As for the options, as long as there are basic EASILY accessible features like:

Administrator MENU with options such as:


Kick, Ban, Kill - Ban options should be permanent or for certain time set by administrator

Mute Chat/Voice - Similar to ban - permanent or temporary mute, till player disconnects and than reconnects to the server
alone with that should go Unmute Chat/Voice

Change Map - instant map change by administrator.

Swap teams/races - forces a player to change team/race by administrator at any given time

Admin chat - text of different color from the normal chat, maybe in different position on a screen, used only when administrator chooses to talk in such chat. (So if I am administrator playing on my own server and I chat, it will not be admin chat unless I chose to talk that way in the admin menu (Sorry that I have to clarify it like that, but there are a lot of dumb developers out there now days...))

Server Message - message that can be set by server administrator that appears at the beginning of the match or whenever is called by administrator. Usually used to state server rules, or advertise clans website or other servers

and finally

Vote Map, Kick, Mute options - available to all players on the servers, can be called by hitting vote key and then executed on number of votes for or against the call.

For example:
Vote kick SEGA in the balls
Votes 10 to 2
Vote pass
SEGA been kicked in the balls

Just in case if no admins are around, players can take care of abusers or pick map that suits better for the number of players or races. Also admins should be able to disable the VOTE feature on the servers if they chose to do so.


Note how I asked it to be in the nice EASILY ACCESSIBLE MENU style, because typing all that crap in the command line is Lame, so if they want to make it right for once might as well make it easy for the admins.
(Also they should definitely check out awesome fan made Counter Strike Source Admin tools!)

If anyone else has things to add or make any corrections please feel free. Thanks!

[spacebug]

I understand. Didn't you see it coming though, I think I read a pamphlet that said that there would be maps exclusive to the Hunter Edition game.

So your saying they will be charging for these? That would set me off big time, seeing as we only have 2 FRIGGIN' MAPS for any games above 12 player (is this the same for you PC guys, im on xbox).

Yep, the same maps for PC and Xbox/PS3. The only difference is that Hunter Edition wasn't even available for PC users in North America.

That and PC users aren't very accustomed to being charged for DLC yet.

[scarh791]

Dont worry I dont plan on "Pussing out" if ANGRY JOE cant be the one who's tough and honest (while still giving credit where credit is due) than whats the point of the Angry Joe Show?

But im not going to be asking questions like, "Your game sucks and I hate it, how do you feel about that?".

Your question that the game is broken and unfinished isnt true. Now I havent played the PC version but for the xbox version it is certainly playable.

I could ask them, where the hell the new alien types that tim jones promised where? The spitting alien doesnt count.
Or whats the deal with dedicated servers on PC - thats why I posted here, I was hoping you guys would clear up this issue for me.
Apparently it was promised, then not delivered, then now it out, but still in Beta? is this correct?

It may not be true of the 360 version, but it certainly is of the PC version. Here's the facts as they've presented themselves over the past month:

1)Yes, dedicated servers WERE promised on release and were never delivered apart from a beta plagued with issues.
2)The Matchmaking system on the PC was far inferior to its 360 counterpart on release and remains so, leaving most PC users unable to connect. The multiplayer community died a quick death as a result. The Steam Stats page confirms this.
3)PC specific issues like stuttering in DirectX 11 mode, driver issues and frequent crashes to desktop were never properly addressed or outright dismissed.
4)What few hangerson are left, myself included, feel insulted that a DLC featuring 4 maps comes with a $10 price tag when the core game remains virtually unplayable.

I have heard 360 players are having a much easier go of it so I understand if all the hating on the game in these forums seems uncalled for.

[Epic Vs Failure]

Alright guys!
Here's your Chance.
Its been about a month so I thought it would be cool to do this now.

Time to get answers to all of our burning questions!

I've scheduled an Interview with the Developers over at Rebellion and I wanted to give my PC Brothers a chance to come up with some questions of their own!

I hear theres been alot of rage :o over Dedicated Servers, if someone would fill me in on this (i play the xbox 360 version) and possibly phrase a question for it, that would be great!

Final Judgment - Developer Interview with Your Q's! (http://angryjoeshow.com/?p=6634)
http://angryjoeshow.com/?p=6634


Ask Rebellion anything regarding their Aliens Vs Predator Franchise, and remember im looking for the best, most interesting and even sometimes funny questions! I’ll select maybe about 10, throw in a few of my own and set it over to Rebellion HQ for Answering!

This is obviously more of an "afterwards" what you thought, what you hated, what's next, what when into the process kinda thing so form them appropriately.

Angry Joe
www.angryjoeshow.com

you know they already have rebellion workers here.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/member.php?u=699464

[nick2730]

everyone knows they are gonna dodge the questions needing to be answered

[ightenhill]

everyone knows they are gonna dodge the questions needing to be answered

Technically they won't even need to dodge them, Sega will filter them out in the first place..

They don't do these things unless they see a PR exercise in the first place which is all it is for them.. Expect lots of talk about more DLC and the sequal

[TonyTheTiger]

Ahh ok joe ill try my best here. I just had detail there to give the reasoning lol.

1)Is the dev team that worked on AVP still working on adding multiplayer features for AVP including more match settings and options?

2)Are free mod tools going to be released so players can create their own game modes and maps

3)Is there gonna be a lan option available that doesn't require internet (very important)

4)Are modes like predator hunt going to be balanced out and made more fair for the predator.

5)Many weapons are underpowered at the moment, such as the flamethrower, sniper rifle, smart gun, predator throwing spear, plasma caster using too much ammo, etc. Are they going to receive balance tweaks? It would be great if every gun was useful.

6)Is ranking going to be combined into any type of server so the community doesn't get split up even further.

7)Are you going to remove the feature that requires people to hold down e to pick up a gun/pred weapon. Players would appreciate it if weapon pickup and pred recharge station had no delay. It also more noticeable at higher pings.

8)Are stealth kills going to be tweaked so they dont reach as far as they do at the moment. Currently you can be very far from an opponent and it still sucks them in.

9)Is predator cloak going to be made better? Right now you can't even sneak up on players because the cloak hardly covers the pred when he moves. He should be more noticeable when hes holding down the sprint button if anything.

10)Are the alien wall clinging controls going to be improved? And is the alien camera going to be fixed? The camera is very confusing, constantly changing and making it hard to focus on a target.

For Further explanation, read below:
"Fact #1: It forces autotransitions down ledges and on several surfaces even with the Auto-Transition option turned off in the options menu, sometimes resulting in players being stuck and unable to auto-transition back off.

Fact #2: The camera forces auto-center on uneven surfaces, such as at the top of the temple, which causes a jerky camera.

Suggestion #1: Add a toggle function for Auto-Transition and add a "limited auto-transition" option to the options menu, allowing players to choose to have NO auto-transition, the default partial auto-transition, or full auto-transition if they wish.

Suggestion #2: Make auto-center optional and add an auto-center key.

In AvP 1 and 2 auto-center was optional and auto-transition could be toggled. There was also an Auto-Center key."

Heres an explanation of how the camera is very disorienting
Think of it this way...when you go running down a rocky road in real life do your eyes look straight up, then level, then straight down, then level every time you step on a rock an off again? No it doesn't. The same should hold true for alien vision when running over a bumpy surface...but it doesn't. Every little bump re-orients your vision parallel to the surface of the bump...so when going over a support girder instead of just stepping over it and continuing to see forward (which it should be) you change vision angles relative to the overall surface 4 times (level, up, level, down, level)

[reaper412]

When's the magical patch coming out that makes the game 10x better like people want and make them stop complaining?

[Gilgamar]

When's the magical patch coming out that makes the game 10x better like people want and make them stop complaining?
The day Duke Nukem Forever will be released.

[ightenhill]

To be honest Joe I wouldnt touch this with a barge pole.. You'll end up being so curtailed by Segas T&C even your own fans will think you have been bought out.. In the end the interview will achieve nothing other than to damage your own reputation (as I assume your supposed to be indie) and to give Sega some free PR..

[Vladplaya]

I also would like to know on what day is that interview scheduled?

[AngryJoeShow]

Technically they won't even need to dodge them, Sega will filter them out in the first place..

They don't do these things unless they see a PR exercise in the first place which is all it is for them.. Expect lots of talk about more DLC and the sequal

If that ends up being the case - I will point that out, and that will be one more reason for you to distrust Rebellion & Sega - but I dont believe that will be the case.

As for my reputation if all they do is give me sugar coated answers, I dont see how that would reflect on me, it reflects on them. Again the people I've talked to a pretty laid back and cool so we will see.

I've nearly finished collecting questions, however my AngryJoe PC just failed. Im on an old laptop still trying to do this work - I'll likely have all these Questions i need (and my pc back up) by the end of the week. When Ill submit the questions. (Due to GDC they are unavailable for a sit down). Also GDC might slow their response time - but since its email it shouldnt be too bad.

I've made it clear to them that the series is designed to be posted around a month (plus or minus a week) after release.

Theres no doubt that the Dedicated Servers and Resentment over the DLC content/price when there are still major issues with the matchmaking on PC needs to be asked.

[Wolfrip_Sixshot]

If that ends up being the case - I will point that out, and that will be one more reason for you to distrust Rebellion & Sega - but I dont believe that will be the case.

As for my reputation if all they do is give me sugar coated answers, I dont see how that would reflect on me, it reflects on them. Again the people I've talked to a pretty laid back and cool so we will see.

I've nearly finished collecting questions, however my AngryJoe PC just failed. Im on an old laptop still trying to do this work - I'll likely have all these Questions i need (and my pc back up) by the end of the week. When Ill submit the questions. (Due to GDC they are unavailable for a sit down). Also GDC might slow their response time - but since its email it shouldnt be too bad.

I've made it clear to them that the series is designed to be posted around a month (plus or minus a week) after release.

Theres no doubt that the Dedicated Servers and Resentment over the DLC content/price when there are still major issues with the matchmaking on PC needs to be asked.

Personally im glad your the one spearheading the questions. From your other videos its clear that you do pick up on any problems i game has and don't tiptoe around serious gameplay issues or lack of innovation in a new game.

The Star Trek Online video was class.

[Larry1212]

Q. What are Rebellion's thoughts on the outcry from their PC player base on the current state of the game?

And... Do they still think those "♥♥♥♥" reviews are ill concieved after so many of us gamers(Across all platforms) also report that their game is bugged, outdated, has crappy AI and is just simply flawed in all aspects?

[pherone]

Why is this game so rubbish?
And how do i get my money back?
Thanks

[Androktasie]

When will we get Offline LAN support (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1153015&page=6) for paying customers?
When will we get Offline LAN support (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1153015&page=6) for paying customers?
When will we get Offline LAN support (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1153015&page=6) for paying customers?

Thanks :)

[Pizzaguy]

Q. According to statements made by Rebellion, if there was an outcry for Dedicated Servers they would be released. This happened. Now there is an outcry for an SDK. Will this happen?

Q. Will additional skins be made available via DLC/Patches later on? Many people want female marine skins and a Predalien (scaling it down would be fine, trust me it wouldn't bother anyone). Also the original Predator from Predator would be nice.

[Vladplaya]

When will we get Offline LAN support (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1153015&page=6) for paying customers?
When will we get Offline LAN support (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1153015&page=6) for paying customers?
When will we get Offline LAN support (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1153015&page=6) for paying customers?

Thanks :)

Yes! I want my fking LAN RIGHT NOW, Damn it! DAMN IT Rebellion why the FK would you fk that one up? Could be passing time with few friends on lan while waiting for you to fix dedis but NOOO that would be way to much fun us huh? Arrgggh! Just damn it!

[underdog1425]

When will we get Offline LAN support (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1153015&page=6) for paying customers?
When will we get Offline LAN support (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1153015&page=6) for paying customers?
When will we get Offline LAN support (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1153015&page=6) for paying customers?

Thanks :)

QFT :cool:

[f1nk]

Ask them please, whether they could implement the original weapon sounds from the movie as an option for those who prefer the original sounds.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13570299#post13570299

[skarik]

Ask them please, whether they could implement the original weapon sounds from the movie as an option for those who prefer the original sounds.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13570299#post13570299

That'd be mod tools, but hey...


...fixing the LAN is easier than making mod tools!

[maniac_e]

1) Rebellion are you going to listen to the PC community and make sure they also get what they wanted out of this game.
2) Was AvP even made for the PC or just with the consoles in mind?
3) Are the Marine's getting some sort of block action to stop quickkills? If so maybe even take those out?
4)Is there a map editor coming? Ala Unreal Tournament that would be one of the best things you could give the PC community after this very bad start with to many bugs!
5) ALso why aren't the maps of the DLC free? How do you plan on making this appealing towards customers? Since almost nobody will pay for it what will you do about this?

[Mad Max RW]

If this AngryJoe tool asks a bunch of safe questions about DLC I'm gonna ♥♥♥♥ a brick.

[Whiskeyleech]

If this AngryJoe tool asks a bunch of safe questions about DLC I'm gonna ♥♥♥♥ a brick.

Joe, Don't make him do it. (http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9159/brickvp.jpg)

will Joe be asking about the Staff Cuts?

[Wolfrip_Sixshot]

Joe, Don't make him do it. (http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9159/brickvp.jpg)

will Joe be asking about the Staff Cuts?

I really hope he does.

Someone Email Joe about it and get him to ask about the situration.

How can they support AVP with massive lay offs and the derby studio closing?

[Vladplaya]

Hey Joe I hope you gonna see this, because I have couple more quick questions which I think are pretty important. I know you said you almost done with gathering the questions, but I would greatly appreciate if you can squeeze in these two somehow, somewhere. K here we go:


First I would love to know if developers gonna give us more options for control customization. Which would go for both consoles and PC gamers. Why not let aliens have a simple auto transition button, similar to AvP2? Also I would like to disable alien Normal jump, sense you leap or climb everywhere, normal jump is practically worthless and makes a ridiculous jumping target out of you more than helps you. And why not let Predators chose to assign vision mods to specific key, or keys combination? Like V + #1 = normal V + #2 = thermal etc.

And second, why, WHY don't they add Offline LAN support for the PC? That probably doesn't sound like much for console players, but for PC gamers it is huge chunk of the multiplayer experience. Because if I got my gaming rig in my room, and I have a game, and my roommate got gaming rig in his room, and he got the game, we CANNOT play a simple game just with two of us without going through bunch of loop holes and without actually connecting to the internet, when our computers are a room apart. WHYYYY? We both have computers, we both have games, we both got steam... why not let the game connect to the Local network and let people have fun?


And I hope they don't give bunch of BS regarding Piracy, because people pirate games for single player more than anything else, AND it's STEAM job to deal with piracy. Why would they cut multiplayer features for that?

Yeah, so PLEASE mention those and see what they got to say about it, because right now its complete bullsh*t.

I appreciate your efforts bro! Thanks!

[TonyTheTiger]

well said vladplaya, I had those included but im glad its being mentioned more than once

[AngryJoeShow]

I can ask about the layoffs but seeing as they havent responded to other sites inquiries about it they may just brush it off. Layoffs are sometimes apart of the normal game development cycle, but 20+ is kinda high. I'll ask it.

The sure questions without a doubt are future support for the game (will layoffs have effect), the dedicated server issues with trying to plug paid DLC, and Offline lan support.

Cant grab all the questions from just here, but I'd like to maybe grab one or two more, im also looking for funny questions to lighten the mood.

I'll submit everything by Friday.

[Wolfrip_Sixshot]

I can ask about the layoffs but seeing as they havent responded to other sites inquiries about it they may just brush it off. Layoffs are sometimes apart of the normal game development cycle, but 20+ is kinda high. I'll ask it.

The sure questions without a doubt are future support for the game (will layoffs have effect), the dedicated server issues with trying to plug paid DLC, and Offline lan support.

Cant grab all the questions from just here, but I'd like to maybe grab one or two more, im also looking for funny questions to lighten the mood.

I'll submit everything by Friday.

It's not 20+ lay offs. Up to 20 lay offs according to the source the site quoted.

Who stole all the Marine Helmets?

What happened to the marines ability to say more then 2 sentances?

At what rank do we unlock the "cover yourself in mud" ability?

When do we get a Capture the Flag mode? (could make it Capture the Technology Mode Predators VS Marines)

No women? No boobs in muiltiplayer? Are you guys gay? (Predators moobs don't count)

Are there any Marshmellows in the game and is that why we have the flamethrower?

Why is Predator Hunt mode not called Predator Tag?

360 degree motion trackers with no meter read out? Didn't your boss give Rebellion staff a day off the see Aliens?

Is there any chance of you starting work on a sequal now so in 10 years time you will have everything anyone could possible want in the sequal AVP 2020?

[AFireEternal]

Are there any Marshmellows in the game and is that why we have the flamethrower?

:p Yeah, really...That's about all it's good for.

[AngryJoeShow]

Question only my PC brothers can answer:

If the Host Drops do you have to go through a ton of menus screens again? (no host-migration)
Also the ranked matches currently are pretty much bare and empty right nobody plays them because they feel the hosts are cheating?

Questions are being submitted tomorrow morning! Ive got some great ones, thanks to everyone here! Obviously I cant have every single one of yours answered but I hope you guys enjoy!

[AngryJoeShow]

Question Submissions Closed!

I got some great ones! ;D
Thank you everyone who participated!
I'll Submit Tomorrow Morning, Expect the Answers before the End of the Month! (hopefully much sooner, just dont want to disappoint you guys if they take forever or we have to shoot back and forth a bit).

Question Submissions Closed!

[Griker]

Angry Joe FTW

I have a question, will they ever release the Predalien and Dog Alien models for DLC?

[ValentineHeart]

How about fixing the controls so that Auto-Transition Off actually works?

Fact #1: It forces autotransitions down ledges and on several surfaces even with the Auto-Transition option turned off in the options menu, sometimes resulting in players being stuck and unable to auto-transition back off.

Note: The skill of the player is irrelevant to the issue.

[beedy91]

why should I have to join another site/community when all the tools to talk to devs are right here? sour puss? NO. there is no reason to even go to his site. NONE.

@ above poster. don't care how it works. never heard of him before. HE can do ALL OF THAT RIGHT HERE. IN THIS COMMUNITY.

And yet do you think we are getting across to them?? Joe is going to Directly ask them so i say... thats BETTER than this stupid forums that the devs dont even bother to look at or reply to anything.

[Whiskeyleech]

And yet do you think we are getting across to them?? Joe is going to Directly ask them so i say... thats BETTER than this stupid forums that the devs dont even bother to look at or reply to anything.

Oh, they are lurking. you can make book on that. getting a response, lol. not gonna happen. As far as Joe and his questions...watch, wait and see.

[Sifer2]

I hope the 10 questions Joe picked are relevant. The last interview like this was by SEGA an they asked the stupidest questions most that had already been answered in previous interviews. I know Joe is a gamer so maybe he wont mess it up as bad as they did. I think what we all want to know is an ETA on Dedicated Servers. An where were going from here such as will there be an expansion pack or this game abandoned aside from map packs? An when can we expect more bug fix/balance patches.

[AngryJoeShow]

*Update*

Sega & Rebellion have received the questions are were just now waiting for Tim to return from the GDC trip.

[Vladplaya]

Great! Can't wait to see what they got to say, especially with this lack of communication after release. I hope it won't take too long.

[TonyTheTiger]

thanks for update

[Genma]

Did they ask for the questions? Because normally you are not supposed to give your questions away in an interview.. specially one that will contain some hot topics.

If they were like: "Hey Joe, send your Qs dog so we can answer them (read systematically eliminate those that may cause trouble or bad publicity, we'll answer the same crap we have been saying since we announced the game though :D )". Then not much you can do.

[spacebug]

So you're putting Tim Jones on the hot seat? For some reason I expected it would be Jason Kingsley.

[ightenhill]

Sega have pretty strict publishing T&C when it comes to devs answering questions.. From what I understand they basically get to veto the questions before they even get to the developer. QED totally pointless exercise which will turn into nothing more than another Sega marketing opportunity.

[AngryJoeShow]

Sega have pretty strict publishing T&C when it comes to devs answering questions.. From what I understand they basically get to veto the questions before they even get to the developer. QED totally pointless exercise which will turn into nothing more than another Sega marketing opportunity.


Do you work in the Industry?

Because a few weeks back unexpectedly my interview was halted and directed towards sega when I was making good progress to a private interview - now the q's are being submitted to sega first then to Tom - they are also now wanting all the questions in written form, rather than a back and forth setup. (it may just be formality but the fact remains)

We will see how butchered they are by the time they come back. I did my best to setup a relaxed atmosphere - that will likely be odd & unprofessional sounding if they are to just read through them.

They've already commented that Tom will be unable to share his opinion on Aliens: Colonial Marines (it was a throw away mention embedded within another question)

The question that wont get answered:
"Some people ask why there wasn’t a co-operative campaign mode? Was it because you didn’t want to step on the toes of Gearbox’s upcoming Aliens Colonial Marines? And are you as excited as we are about that title?"

Anyway, Im not going to pass judgment until we see a final result. but know Im not going to go down easy if i get back my document with red marker all over it.

[AFireEternal]

All of that doesn't give me a good feeling about this...But who knows? At least they released a statement earlier today, so we know they still exist.

[byblo]

All of that doesn't give me a good feeling about this...But who knows? At least they released a statement earlier today, so we know they still exist.
What statement ? edit:Nevermind. Found. (http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=320431)

[ightenhill]

Well they exist in that they are patching the consoles .... Woopy Feckin Doo

[AFireEternal]

Well they exist in that they are patching the consoles .... Woopy Feckin Doo

And the PC. Read the statement.

[ightenhill]

And the PC. Read the statement.

Keep reading it and it still reads the same..

Rebellion today confirmed that analysis of player feedback following the launch of the chart-topping Aliens vs Predator will shortly lead to the release of a patch on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

Following updates to the PC, including integration of a Dedicated Server client, the company stated: “We are aware of and grateful to the community for communicating with us and helping this process along. The updates are going through rigorous QA and we hope to have them available publicly very soon.”

The only mention of the PC part is the dediacted servers, but it reads as if they think the beta they have realeased was the patch to me, they just forgot to call it a beta

[whateva]

Keep reading it and it still reads the same..

Rebellion today confirmed that analysis of player feedback following the launch of the chart-topping Aliens vs Predator will shortly lead to the release of a patch on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

Following updates to the PC, including integration of a Dedicated Server client, the company stated: “We are aware of and grateful to the community for communicating with us and helping this process along. The updates are going through rigorous QA and we hope to have them available publicly very soon.”

The only mention of the PC part is the dediacted servers, but it reads as if they think the beta they have realeased was the patch to me, they just forgot to call it a beta

Great i feel even more like chopped liver :cool:, i have to get a PS3 for GOW(Yeah i know a console for a single game) but im just sticking with consoles in the future, cause the PC community gets screwed so much i feel like a porn star.

[Mad Max RW]

The console gaming community gets screwed with DLC, expensive subscriptions, and patches that should never have to be made. Remember when console games didn't need patches? Or are most gamers today too young to remember those days?

[whateva]

The console gaming community gets screwed with DLC, expensive subscriptions, and patches that should never have to be made. Remember when console games didn't need patches? Or are most gamers today too young to remember those days?

Good dlc adds to a game ( I agree though that these company's are simply developing this so called dlc and waiting to after release to gouge more money from the consumers), the only sub consoles pay are $50 a year for xboxlive (Not expensive),They don't have the $14.99 a month sub like pc games do which add up to more than $50 a year & patches also help the game because from yester-year games were made and left alone, even with problems at hand they were let in the dark. Also the argument that yesterday games and today games need patches doesn't sit well because games of the past used way less resources and technology to make and besides patches are free and good game improvement's.

[ValentineHeart]

I'd like to know

1: Why did they released the game obviously unfinished?
2: Why are they releasing maps as paid DLC to further divide the online community?
3: Why don't the Ranked games have dedicated servers yet?
4: Why do ranked matches end when host drops instead of finding a new host?
5: Why does the ranked match system only allow you to search 1 game type or all game types instead of a custom list of gametypes?
6: Why does the Alien auto-transition off option not actually turn auto-transition all the way off?
7: Why is there no auto-transition toggle key?
8: Why are teams of three are often divided by 8 instead of 9?
9: Why did they advertise the game so heavily on the "Multiplayer will never be the same" line when the Multiplayer match system is STILL so obviously broken?
10: Why is there no crouch button?

Rebellion has already showed that they don't care about their customers as long as they can stack up the pre-orders on nothing but hype, and so has SEGA.

[nzstiB]

I'd like to know

1: Why did they released the game obviously unfinished?
2: Why are they releasing maps as paid DLC to further divide the online community?
3: Why don't the Ranked games have dedicated servers yet?
4: Why do ranked matches end when host drops instead of finding a new host?
5: Why does the ranked match system only allow you to search 1 game type or all game types instead of a custom list of gametypes?
6: Why does the Alien auto-transition off option not actually turn auto-transition all the way off?
7: Why is there no auto-transition toggle key?
8: Why are teams of three are often divided by 8 instead of 9?
9: Why did they advertise the game so heavily on the "Multiplayer will never be the same" line when the Multiplayer match system is STILL so obviously broken?
10: Why is there no crouch button?

Rebellion has already showed that they don't care about their customers as long as they can stack up the pre-orders on nothing but hype, and so has SEGA.

This is what I want to know as well. On top of that I'd like to know, how does it feel to screw over your customers and the PC community, not once (the game itself), but over again with DLC?

[AngryJoeShow]

*Update*
Tim Jones will be answering the questions he has them and now his replies must be approved by Sega.

Sorry for the slow process here but it seems I had the worst timing in the middle of alot of developer conferences and trips by their executive producers.

Thankfully the interview is extensive and quite unlike anything you've seen before, over 20+ questions, some two parters. Hopefully it will be worth your wait.

Id imagine we will have this within next week.

[Vladplaya]

That's cool, but from the moment that you said SEGA will be looking over those first, I lost all my hope in this project. As awesome as it might sound, I am really afraid we gonna get very very general edited answers. Still, lets hope for the best.

[Mad Max RW]

That's cool, but from the moment that you said SEGA will be looking over those first, I lost all my hope in this project. As awesome as it might sound, I am really afraid we gonna get very very general edited answers. Still, lets hope for the best.

That's how it works with all interviews.

But anyway, good job, Joe. Let's hope they don't stick to only the softball questions.

[AFireEternal]

Thanks for the update. I was wondering what the status of this was.

[ightenhill]

Thx for the update Joe.. TBH I think you already know how this is going to go but thx for trying..

All I would advise is weigh up the balance.. Is this going to work for you or for Segas marketing... And if they have attached any conditions, go through them with a fine tooth comb and take advice before you say anything or add anything on the same prog that could be interpretated as criticsm..

[TonyTheTiger]

thx for update again, but.. hoping the questions are actually good..

[milktree]

probably any questions about the games general quality and functionality will be removed by sega

[Gates1986]

Yup, you said "SEGA has to approve" so either they're going to choose the questions that aren't in reference to them making a ♥♥♥♥ty game or they will feed us bull♥♥♥♥ like Rebellion and them have been doing all along.

Just like a previous poster said.. they could care ♥♥♥♥ing less about making a great game as long as they could sell a game with hype only. At least I know that I will never purchase a SEGA or Rebellion product again. They have shown little to no support towards the community.

I'm curious to see how the interview turns out but everyone knows that Rebellion or SEGA wont admit that they made a god-awful ♥♥♥♥ing game with no future. Here's a meeting that went down between Rebellion and SEGA:

Rebellion: Should we include 8 or 4 maps with the original release?
SEGA Rep: *Almost choking on coffee* What!? Are you kidding me? We release 4 maps AND THEN release DLC for almost $10 more so we get more money!

Rebellion: The PC community is asking about dedicated servers... should we tell them that we don't have that planned?
SEGA: ♥♥♥♥ no, but wait... I need pre-order sales so lets tell them that they will be included with the release.

Rebellion: We know it's close to release but there's a lot of bugs to work out with the game.. we need to delay the game.
SEGA: ♥♥♥♥ it, release the beast and lie to community about patching the game as soon as possible. We'll have their money already so it won't matter.

[AFireEternal]

Rebellion: The PC community is asking about dedicated servers... should we tell them that we don't have that planned?
SEGA: ♥♥♥♥ no, but wait... I need pre-order sales so lets tell them that they will be included with the release.

THEY NEVER SAID DEDICATED SERVERS WERE COMING ON RELEASE.

God damn, some of you people fail miserably at reading... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Trocian]

THEY NEVER SAID DEDICATED SERVERS WERE COMING ON RELEASE.

God damn, some of you people fail miserably at reading... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

So you'd be okay with having the Alien & Marine campaigns cut, and released at a later date?

No.

When a developer specifically speaks out that they will indeed have dedicated servers, you expect them to be functional at release. Stop defending them, it was clearly just a marketing scheme to get more people to preorder.

[Gates1986]

THEY NEVER SAID DEDICATED SERVERS WERE COMING ON RELEASE.

God damn, some of you people fail miserably at reading... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

"But in a recent exchange with GamesIndustry.biz, it is revealed that the game will indeed be shipped with dedicated servers as a function, placing many gamers to a calm state as they know that there will be one game which will allow them to do whatever they like in their own customized server."

Source: http://www.notcliche.com/lbw/avp3-dedicated-servers-something-that-needs-to-be-considered

"Despite rumours, Rebellion has always been planning to support dedicated servers for Aliens vs Predator PC and we can now officially confirm that this is the case. Rebellion has always appreciated fan support," said Rebellion CEO Jason Kingsley. "We're really looking forward to the release of Aliens vs Predator as much as you guys are!"

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/dedicated-servers-for-aliens-vs-predator_9

If they were ALWAYS planning to support dedicated servers than they would have been included with the game.

Stop defending Rebellion and SEGA. They're two ♥♥♥♥ty companies that ♥♥♥♥ed up a perfectly good franchise.

[AFireEternal]

"But in a recent exchange with GamesIndustry.biz, it is revealed that the game will indeed be shipped with dedicated servers as a function, placing many gamers to a calm state as they know that there will be one game which will allow them to do whatever they like in their own customized server."

Source: http://www.notcliche.com/lbw/avp3-dedicated-servers-something-that-needs-to-be-considered

"Despite rumours, Rebellion has always been planning to support dedicated servers for Aliens vs Predator PC and we can now officially confirm that this is the case. Rebellion has always appreciated fan support," said Rebellion CEO Jason Kingsley. "We're really looking forward to the release of Aliens vs Predator as much as you guys are!"

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/dedicated-servers-for-aliens-vs-predator_9

If they were ALWAYS planning to support dedicated servers than they would have been included with the game.

Stop defending Rebellion and SEGA. They're two ♥♥♥♥ty companies that ♥♥♥♥ed up a perfectly good franchise.

I suggest you re-read your sources. That first article uses the second to somehow magically infer that dedicated servers will be available on release, when the second article (that is referenced by the first as "evidence") never mentions anything of the sort. Plus, in an article just a month before the second one, they said they "may" release dedicated servers, so obviously they were not planning on releasing them from the start.

I'm not defending them and saying what they've done is right, but let's at least get our facts straight before flaming them for things they never said.

[Sifer2]

I know for certain I remember them saying there would be Dedicated Servers like 3 months before launch. True they never said they would be ready at launch but they never said they wouldn't. An when they confirm them way before the game comes out you assume they will be there at launch. Obviously they just let us believe that so they could boost sales. So don't defend them. They could have told us a week or so before release the Dedis would not be ready but they didn't.

[AFireEternal]

I know for certain I remember them saying there would be Dedicated Servers like 3 months before launch. True they never said they would be ready at launch but they never said they wouldn't. An when they confirm them way before the game comes out you assume they will be there at launch. Obviously they just let us believe that so they could boost sales. So don't defend them. They could have told us a week or so before release the Dedis would not be ready but they didn't.

Well, like you said, why would you assume they would be done if they just announced them only 3 months before release? Makes no sense, games take time to code, including the dedicated servers. I certainly wouldn't expect them to be done in 3 months, and if they were they'd surely have a ton of bugs and people would just ♥♥♥♥♥ and complain anyway.

You're right about one thing, though, they should have kept us more informed rather than keeping quiet and vague about the situation. However, I don't think that people have the right to ♥♥♥♥♥ and say things like "THEY PROMISED DEDICATED SERVERS AT LAUNCH OMG" when they never said that.

You know what they say about when you assume...

[Pizzaguy]

Is this EVER coming out?

[AFireEternal]

Is this EVER coming out?

He just updated the thread 2 days ago saying it should be out within the next week.

[Pizzaguy]

He just updated the thread 2 days ago saying it should be out within the next week.

Eeexxxceellleeeennnt...

[Mad Max RW]

Well, like you said, why would you assume they would be done if they just announced them only 3 months before release? Makes no sense, games take time to code, including the dedicated servers. I certainly wouldn't expect them to be done in 3 months, and if they were they'd surely have a ton of bugs and people would just ♥♥♥♥♥ and complain anyway.

You're right about one thing, though, they should have kept us more informed rather than keeping quiet and vague about the situation. However, I don't think that people have the right to ♥♥♥♥♥ and say things like "THEY PROMISED DEDICATED SERVERS AT LAUNCH OMG" when they never said that.

You know what they say about when you assume...

Dude, you're just defending the indefensible. Regardless of Rebellion's exact wording, they deliberately misled people into thinking dedicated servers would be available at launch. If you look back in these very forums every time it was questioned days before release that person was considered a troll and threatened with banishment.

Even if you look at the dedicated server software it was obvious they scrambled to put it together after the huge backlash over the terrible automatic matchmaking. They never intended to make it 6 months ago or however long it was when they made the first promise.

[IGingerMadManI]

THEY NEVER SAID DEDICATED SERVERS WERE COMING ON RELEASE.

God damn, some of you people fail miserably at reading... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Idiot fan-boy spotted.

[AFireEternal]

So this "next week" is almost over...Any updates on this? Still curious to see what they said.

[Styreta]

I love how the game has pretty much died in the time its taken to make this flick.

Too much lag and BS -.-

[AFireEternal]

Yeah, it's sad, as I actually do enjoy the game, but it does need a bit more tweaking to make it really where it needs to be balance- and netcode-wise.

AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, RANKED DEDICATED SERVERS!!!

[ightenhill]

I love how the game has pretty much died in the time its taken to make this flick.

Too much lag and BS -.-

Pretty much sums it up.. Its a pity the whole embarrasment of a game is forever tied to your steam account.

[AngryJoeShow]

*Modified*
Awaiting update - Ive contacted them 4 times with no reply, please bear with me.

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[Kurakkon]

Charley/Rebellion,
This is now my 5th requested email, all previous update requests have been ignored.

If you are canceling our interview or Sega doesn’t want to conduct an interview with angryjoeshow.com or thatguywiththeglasses.com (one of the top 10,000 sites in the world - 6,457th). That’s your prerogative – But to ignore my emails and to treat me indifferently is downright rude. I suspect had I been IGN, Gamespot, or Game trailers the story would be much different here.

I gave a month’s advance notice – was told that I could have an interview – submitted questions, and was told that tim had them, more than a week ago (2).
If Sega’s approval process takes multiple weeks to months, it would be nice to know that, but I don’t think that’s the case. I’ve conducted these before.

Can you please send me an update as now my promises to my viewers of an interview with a cool developer who made a game we all wanted to chat and learn more about appears to be not happening. If that’s the case and I’ve been snubbed by corporate over at Sega - I’m going to proceed with the “video interview” as promised to my viewers but instead highlight the events over the past 2 months in trying to get this interview by an excited fan and reviewer done to no avail.

Eagerly awaiting your Reply Before I take action,
(And hopeful we can salvage this situation)

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Oh dear...

[Vladplaya]

Yep. They don't give a f*ck.

[AFireEternal]

Wow. That's pretty harsh of them.

[Mad Max RW]

That's pretty damn hilarious. Don't be so quick to drop all the blame in Sega's lap. Rebellion was always run by a bunch of stereotypical arrogant Brits who believe their fans are lowly peons not worthy of their presence. Some of that shined through with their initial reactions to the poor reviews, claiming it was "only a few stupid Americans". Their words exactly.

[Kurakkon]

That's pretty damn hilarious. Don't be so quick to drop all the blame in Sega's lap. Rebellion was always run by a bunch of stereotypical arrogant Brits who believe their fans are lowly peons not worthy of their presence. Some of that shined through with their initial reactions to the poor reviews, claiming it was "only a few stupid Americans". Their words exactly.

The questions have been passed onto SEGA, apparently. That means it's not Rebellion that's holding things up.

More likely, SEGA simply won't allow a lot of the questions through and think that ignoring the guy is the lesser of two evils, for them. I mean seriously, how many questions do you think are positive?

[Mad Max RW]

But with no word from anyone at Rebellion? And they have been notably absent from all forums the last couple months. My best guess is the remaining studio is going through some major restructuring and many of those guys don't know who still has a job. During this period PR goes on lockdown.

[danny170]

MY QUESTION IS

How do you intend to make up for the short coming of this game (poor servers quality,lack of ranked servers match up and map's) with the international fan based community, and is there the possiblity of some New thank you map's to level out the MP community?

rather then steam acheivment i would rather AP ammo,a good single player CO OP mission. so there is another question,would they consider releasing a L4D style of play for AvsP

[Rad_Child]

There's still no video?! El Oh El!

[AFireEternal]

That's pretty damn hilarious. Don't be so quick to drop all the blame in Sega's lap. Rebellion was always run by a bunch of stereotypical arrogant Brits who believe their fans are lowly peons not worthy of their presence. Some of that shined through with their initial reactions to the poor reviews, claiming it was "only a few stupid Americans". Their words exactly.

In all fairness, a couple of the reviews were pretty stupid.

But I see your point, though I don't think I agree that that is the reason why we haven't heard a whole lot.

And they have been notably absent from all forums the last couple months.

What are you talking about? daPing has been posting here for quite some time, and his last posts were just after the latest patch was released. I'd like to hear more, and more often, but you can't say they haven't been active for "months".

[Vladplaya]

What are you talking about? daPing has been posting here for quite some time, and his last posts were just after the latest patch was released. I'd like to hear more, and more often, but you can't say they haven't been active for "months".

As daPing mentioned himself, he was posting on his own spare time, simply because he felt like doing so. I would give credit to him personally and not SEGA/Rebellion, it is obvious that as the company and studio they don't care about making any official statements or updates more often than they have to, which is not very often at all.

[defqon.]

1 = why are you telling me to play this game on normal setting but have a PC
to play all ather games at high and very high ? / fix the memory issue
and doint blame MS,Ati,Nvidia

2 = Downloadable Content will cost you / why is that a standard now ?

3 = why no mod support ?


:( hoop you get your interview dude shame on tham if the doint / good thing is that you will have a new story if the doint :P

[AngryJoeShow]

A Moderator has convinced me to send an addendum to my last email to them and to remove the posted emails. I was trying to be as transparent as possible with my fans - I hate being kept in the dark and was trying to provide that to them - not trying to be unprofessional.

But i can guarantee had this been IGN, gamespot, or gametrailers, things would be alot different - and its not like there are 346 interview requests for this game currently.

I believe the fault is with SEGA and not Rebellion, Rebellion was really excited about the interview and then things just stopped after SEGA got involved.

[ZeroRawr]

Or Rebellion WAS excitied but then realized "Ohhh no they're gonna grill us because we ♥♥♥♥ed up on the PC..."

[Kurakkon]

A Moderator has convinced me to send an addendum to my last email to them and to remove the posted emails. I was trying to be as transparent as possible with my fans - I hate being kept in the dark and was trying to provide that to them - not trying to be unprofessional.

But i can guarantee had this been IGN, gamespot, or gametrailers, things would be alot different - and its not like there are 346 interview requests for this game currently.

I believe the fault is with SEGA and not Rebellion, Rebellion was really excited about the interview and then things just stopped after SEGA got involved.

What does a Steam forum moderator have to do with Rebellion/SEGA? What was it about your original post that required it to be amended?

[AngryJoeShow]

What does a Steam forum moderator have to do with Rebellion/SEGA? What was it about your original post that required it to be amended?

Several people mentioned its unprofessional to post personal emails, I tend to agree. Also in the best interest of my viewers I still want this interview to happen, even if im quick to anger.

[Kurakkon]

Several people mentioned its unprofessional to post personal emails, I tend to agree. Also in the best interest of my viewers I still want this interview to happen, even if im quick to anger.

Seemed to me that it was your last ditch attempt to get a response.

It's not like you haven't tried repeatedly, via a direct method.

Just another nail in the coffin for this comatose game. Devs we can't trust to get even basic design decisions right. A publisher who feels it's better to force paid-for DLC down our necks before we even have a stable MP environment and now this.

Is there any wonder AVP has turned from the best selling game of 2010 to a ghost-town, in a matter of weeks?

Don't waste your time, Joe. Grab an interview with the devs from Avalanche, responsible for Just Cause 2. Now there's a shining example of a stunning, well designed game.

[Mad Max RW]

I liked his idea of continuing with the interview vid, but instead talking about how much of a pain it is getting the interview done. May I suggest a retrospective of the game's surprisingly short lifecycle?

[Deviation]

Lesson learned: Don't buy games made by Rebellion or published by Sega.

[Whiskeyleech]

If I could I would.

[TonyTheTiger]

haha joe, this just shows how they treat customers who bought the game and people like you.
Can't wait to see that video if they keep ignoring you.

[fumanshoe64]

ask Rebellion how they sleep at night knowing they're the most despised, pathetic, inept developers in the history of gaming.

[Vladplaya]

ask Rebellion how they sleep at night knowing they're the most despised, pathetic, inept developers in the history of gaming.

Considering that they probably made millions and millions of dollars in the first week of the AvP sale, they sleep pretty good heh

[Garone]

Why do people who hate this game keep hanging around to troll the forums? Whenever I dislike a game I leave it behind me and play something else.

[KyRoS]

Why do people who hate this game keep hanging around to troll the forums? Whenever I dislike a game I leave it behind me and play something else.

To be honest with you, I think it's because a lot of people don't "hate" this game, but actually quite like it. However, things like lack of rank xp for dedicated servers, keep many people from playing. A lot of people haven't written the game off, but are simply waiting form some necessary changes.

[InspGadgt]

Why do people who hate this game keep hanging around to troll the forums? Whenever I dislike a game I leave it behind me and play something else.

Because we want to like it and we can see a lot of potential in how it could be much better if Sega/Rebellion would do something about it. My first shooter I actually played on-line with a clan was AVP2 so I really want to like and be able to play this game...but in the state it is in now all it does is frustrate me.

[AngryJoeShow]

ask Rebellion how they sleep at night knowing they're the most despised, pathetic, inept developers in the history of gaming.

To be fair I wanted to let everyone know I got an update.
Apparently FOX also needs to approve anything Sega oversees regarding the AVP franchise, so theres three separate approvals here.

Anger should be direct at them, not rebellion - those guys were actually very excited about it. However my contact at rebellion has been on extended leave.

[AFireEternal]

Sounds like they're just jerking you around at this point. Good luck getting any answers back at all. :(

[wonderboy2402]

To be fair I wanted to let everyone know I got an update.
Apparently FOX also needs to approve anything Sega oversees regarding the AVP franchise, so theres three separate approvals here.

Anger should be direct at them, not rebellion - those guys were actually very excited about it. However my contact at rebellion has been on extended leave.

How convenient... Extended leave... FOREVER!

[Kurakkon]

To be fair I wanted to let everyone know I got an update.
Apparently FOX also needs to approve anything Sega oversees regarding the AVP franchise, so theres three separate approvals here.

Anger should be direct at them, not rebellion - those guys were actually very excited about it. However my contact at rebellion has been on extended leave.

And didn't leave an out of office message on their mail. Like you do, when you go on extended leave.

Or have someone else monitor your mail, at the very least. Like you do, when you go on extended leave.

What a joke...

[deadparrot]

To be fair I wanted to let everyone know I got an update.
Apparently FOX also needs to approve anything Sega oversees regarding the AVP franchise, so theres three separate approvals here.

Anger should be direct at them, not rebellion - those guys were actually very excited about it. However my contact at rebellion has been on extended leave.

Oh bull ♥♥♥♥. ♥♥♥♥ both companies. Developers need to stop hiding behind their publishers every time they lie/cheat/steal/♥♥♥♥up/whatever and we players need to start holding them accountable. Every single time anything goes wrong in the video game industry, the fans first blame the developers, who go "lol no" and blame the publishers, and of course the majority of us are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ man children who hate "evil corporations" so we do a 180 and blame the publishers as well. It's ♥♥♥♥ing stupid.

[Deviation]

Extended leave? I wonder if he is skydiving with a golden parachute.

[Gates1986]

SURPRISE SURPRISE! Rebellion and SEGA refuse to answer questions regarding their ♥♥♥♥ty game.

[puffader]

Will the Ailens every quit bouncing around after they are killed. Peace

[loli_san]

man...i would love to see them in a hot seat and then try to BS their way out of this slump.

[H E X E N]

Guys, in all seriousness, I would recommend just giving up on the game. Find something else to play and come back for the single player experience in a couple of years.

Seriously guys, a game this screwed up doesn't deserve the effort.

Same goes for you Joe, don't waste your time man. It's obvious this thing won't fly. It was a good intention for sure, but honestly, not worth the effort anymore.

[TonyTheTiger]

having to go through fox JUST to answer basic gameplay questions? I call bs.

Other developers do it just fine.

[ASnogarD]

Curious... how is a hot seat if the questions are basically checked, veto'd and disarmed of any barbs, the answers will be canned.

... unless you plan to light a fire under the devs ♥♥♥.

This is an opinion of course, but jumping through several hoops just to get a developer to answer a set of tamed questions with canned answers doesnt strike me as a 'angryjoe' , more like a 'justjane'.
Forget about asking devs to answer, just call out the game as it is without fear of losing ad revenue, or lose early access privilages (or whatever benefits the mainstream reviewers get (incl. hotels eh? MW2 ? IW/Activision)).

Play the game and call it as you see it, thats all your fans would want... imagine in the Nerd (AVGN) had to ask developers and publishers permission before blasting a game that... quote ' sucks ♥♥♥ ' end quote.

[Pizzaguy]

Joe should honestly just make a video about the horrible time he's had TRYING to get this video made. That would be even more entertaining.

[byblo]

Bah...

Just by curiosity, can we see the selected questions?

[wonderboy2402]

Actually, I think you should go pick another title Joe. Because I like your show and want to see the new one... but AVP may have been a bad pick, especially if it delaying your putting out the new episode. =[

[Vladplaya]

This getting pretty pathetic. Going from Rebellion to SEGA to FOX, to whom are they gonna send those question next? Obama? I won't be surprised though >.<

[chopblock]

I have nightmares about that mustache.....but decent site/show none the less :)

[Jip_Bip_Jo]

This getting pretty pathetic. Going from Rebellion to SEGA to FOX, to whom are they gonna send those question next? Obama? I won't be surprised though >.<

Fox owns the rights, so they're a non-negotiable censor. It's not one company trying to hide behind another, it's legitimate "we need to cover our asses legally on all fronts" issue. I'm not pleased with what happened to the game either, but whether we like it or not we have to deal with this, and getting pissy and mopey about it could end up hurting the Angry Joe Show - what dev would want an interview if the fan community is a negative stew of bad press?

For what it's worth, I was beyond psyched for this game, and the death of the multiplayer aspect has ruined a lot of the things I was looking forward to. I'd love to have someone to blame, but I can't rightly say where down the line issues started to crop up. Was it QA? Did whoever write the netcode blow at finding a good host? Why was the dedicated server issue so poorly handled? Or was it rushed out by Fox or Sega? Was Rebellion just hoping for a cash-in?

I plain old don't know. And until I have more information, I have no interest in trying to blame someone.

That having been said, whoever screwed up screwed up big.

[Vladplaya]

Jip I am not really blaming anyone specifically other than the system that they got over there. Why can't the Developers answer few questions about their game? Yes they don't own the Aliens or Predators, but they made the darn game, so why does that list have to travel all the way to FOX? FOX has nothing to do with the game, other than providing copyrighted "ideas", why the heck they would look at those question and say, "Umm yeah you can answer this one and that one, but not that one".

I mean the most I would expect is Rebellion sending letter to SEGA and saying here are the questions, which one should we answer, and then SEGA sending a letter to FOX saying, we need to answer some questions about the game. FOX says Okay, SEGA picks the questions, Rebellion answers those. That entire deal shouldn't take more than hour, okay in corporate world it might take a week, but we have this thing that's stretching almost for a month now.

It's pathetic.

[Jip_Bip_Jo]

Like I said, legality issues. There may be a clause in their contract which essentially is meant to control what's said. Or, they don't want to alienate their business partners by raging on them in public. Like I said, we don't know. If it turns out they are just trying to buy time or be too difficult to work with, then yeah, they deserve every comment levelled at them. But it genuinely could be for a legal reason or some such, and I believe in the principle of innocent until proven otherwise.

[ASnogarD]

... and as I asked, whats the point ?

After all that running to and fro you may as well just gone to Rebellion and said gimme ten questions and answers about your game so I can put in my show, free advertising for you.

The corperate powers that be will never allow you to grill a dev properly, the dev may actually tell the truth and reveal how FOX harrased SEGA who in turn pull the funding off Rebellion, who packed the nearly finished game into a installer and said done... suppose we can always put the rest of the game in as DLC (where SEGA comes back and says paid for DLC).

[AFireEternal]

Whatever happens, I hope this will turn into bad PR for Fox/Sega. The amount of time this is taking is utterly absurd.

[Whiskeyleech]

I bet I know the Mod who pumped Joe.

[undyinglight]

How long untill the actual interview comes out?

[AngryJoeShow]

I got the replies. Will be editing the video this week!

[Gates1986]

I got the replies. Will be editing the video this week!

Great, can't wait to see how they dodged every question you asked.

[wonderboy2402]

I got the replies. Will be editing the video this week!

Sounds good Joe, be sure to let us know here on the forum as soon as its up!

[AFireEternal]

So...What's up? Any status?

[syrupwontstopem]

http://angryjoeshow.com/?p=6953

I'm guessing that's the interview. Thanks for the time Joe.

The interview felt a little light on tough questions though, and sometimes it felt like a tough question was asked but watered down with a qualifying phrase (like "or did you feel that such and such was better off not in the game...") that gave them possible answers to wiggle their way out of giving a straight answer...I understand you gotta treat em nice, but it was kinda the warm seat more than the hot seat.

Hands down, the best question was definitely the challenge for them to point out where the "1 or 2 new aliens" were. I want to see developers squirm a bit more like that (though I can't see why they'd willingly do your interviews then :P)... especially 'cause I'm freaking mad that I haven't been able to play since the dedis came out.. my game just crashes.

[Gates1986]

The questions weren't bad honestly. I know a lot of questions got unanswered due to SEGA/FOX/Rebellion or whatever not wanting to answer. Some of their answers p#%^!@ me off.

Rebellion: "Female characters have a different build in the game so they can't share the same animations in multiplayer."

CLIFF NOTES: We're lazy.

Rebellion: "We play close attention to player feedback" (In reference to map sizes)

Ya, ok... terrible job so far Rebellion. You've lost the majority of your fan base.

Rebellion: "We are very happy with the players response to the ones (game types) that we've settled on"

-What game are you playing? 95% of the posts on every AVP forum have been talking about how broken every game-type is.

Rebellion: "We continue to monitor player feedback and update the game with patches whenever possible"

-Seriously Rebellion.. GO F#@! YOURSELVES.