Omg make snipers 2 shot kills on Hardcore.

[FeelingGood]

It's great not being able to Q to spot but frigging all anyone is doing is going recon and camping. If you try to move you get sniped from all ♥♥♥♥ing angle.

Stupid.

[cypherx82]

Omg then don't play hardcore.

[iRaGeQuiiT]

Omg then don't play hardcore.

omg this

[Mr. Fabulous]

Okay, let's make Headshots require 2 shots..

[cypherx82]

Okay, let's make Headshots require 2 shots..

And AR's take 31 rounds to kill...

[Mr. Fabulous]

And AR's take 31 rounds to kill...

Obvously you ddn't hit with every shot.

It's called lag.

[chav_thepwnere]

Hardcore appeals to the MW2♥♥♥♥ that camp and snipe in mw2.

[cypherx82]

Obvously you ddn't hit with every shot.

It's called lag.

I meant "Let's make AR's take 31 rounds to kill" with sarcasm.

My AUG kills with 7-8 rounds in softcore. :)

[grenade001]

Omg then don't play hardcore.

OMG +1

[zomgzomg]

Maybe you should stop moving in an easily predictable fashion. A lot of people do that and then they end up dead. Then they come here whining about snipers.

[Kewp]

just limit the recon per team

fixed

[superfly_cox]

agree with OP. no point when snipers get one shot kills.

hardcore mode is just an afterthought anyway. it makes most of the weapon unlocks, perks and abilities kind of pointless.

[skuko]

that is why i don't play hardcore. i suggest you do the same. "hardcore" is a pointless mode promoting solo play instead of teamplay.

/thread

[terrah1941]

Don't Play hardcore HC is meant to be realistic. In real life i would love to see someone take 2 308. Rounds or a .50 cal round.

[grenade001]

agree with OP. no point when snipers get one shot kills.

hardcore mode is just an afterthought anyway. it makes most of the weapon unlocks, perks and abilities kind of pointless.

I loled at the OP's post. What's the point of Hardcore if rifles are not deadly? Shall we intoduce HelloKitty mode and issue recons butter knives?

edit:
In real life i would love to see someone take 2 308. Rounds or a .50 cal round.
I wouldn't really :P

[DJ_Professor_K]

Shall we intoduce HelloKitty mode and issue recons butter knives?

DO IT, no seriosuilly, do it :P

[thehead225]

just limit the sniper rifles per team

fixed

Fixed your fix. Limiting recon isn't tghe answer.

[Dreaming]

Don't Play hardcore HC is meant to be realistic. In real life i would love to see someone take 2 308. Rounds or a .50 cal round.

It's not about realism, it's a game. It's supposed to be fun! Otherwise you would get shot once and then you would be dead forever. (or at least the rest of the round)

Lets not make comparisons to real life when this isn't real life.

[D4mnit]

HC mode is different than NM. They both have strengths and weaknesses. HC mode requires communication and teamwork, if you don't have that you end up with sniper TDM.

The last round I played as recon I destroyed 4 MCOMs and had 20 kills, the vast majority were from supporting my squad directly, so you can end the "OMG all Recon are useless" campaign.

I like HC servers, if you don't play NM. You can argue about your opinions until your fingers fall off, but your opinion is not superior to the opinion of anyone else, and neither HC nor NM are superior compared to the other.

[thehead225]

HC mode is different than NM. They both have strengths and weaknesses. HC mode requires communication and teamwork, if you don't have that you end up with sniper TDM.

The last round I played as recon I destroyed 4 MCOMs and had 20 kills, the vast majority were from supporting my squad directly, so you can end the "OMG all Recon are useless" campaign.

This....

Nothing like the semi auto sniper rifle with a red dot and some c4 to run the enemies day at point blank range.

[UWReason3D]

from what i cn gather, in games, when you are "killed" it simply means you can no longer fight, not neccessarily "dead", and if you got blasted in the arm by a sniper chances are you'll have a hard time fighting.

[smokepigs]

It's great not being able to Q to spot but frigging all anyone is doing is going recon and camping. If you try to move you get sniped from all ♥♥♥♥ing angle.

Stupid.

Maybe if you make a forum post about it you'll feel better.

[Maizel]

I thought hardcore was my way to go.

But it wears thin after a while. Skill seems to matter even less than on regular mode.

[bcreps85]

Yeah, lets make snipers 2 hit kills while everything else is pretty much a 1-hit kill, that's smart. Just go play normal mode if you can't handle it.

[[HH]Boz]

I guess OP has never played games like Red Orchestra or other realistic shooters (they are still fun!) In those games 1 shot to the chest or head is an instant kill, no matter WHAT weapon you use. You have to adjust your play style in this game. RAMBO-ING will get you killed. You need to move cover to cover tactically, with a team and some have to cover the guys that are moving, then when they reach cover they turn and cover your movement. If there is a sniper picking you off you have to slow down, figure out where he is and then make a plan to take him out. You just don't keep throwing yourself at his field of fire. Spwn elsewhere, make it your mission to flank him and take him out. This game is not Quake, not UT it is not a spam fest of killing. (especially so on HC) If you can't handle that then I suggest you move on and play something else.

For me, HC is the only way to go. I can't stand unloading 25 shots into someones chest to make them die. And one of my biggest complaints of BF2 was that it took 2 shots with sniper weapons to kill, unless it was a head shot. You take a .50 anywhere and I assure you, you will not be having a good day. Center mass = dead, any other hit means you wander around looking for the part that is suddenly no longer attached to your body, arm, leg, hand etc.

[MinionStarwind]

Hardcore is no fun. Everyone stands in a window, or goes recon. No one sees anyone. It's like hide-n-seek.

With bullets.

No.

[D4mnit]

Boz;13956760']I guess OP has never played games like Red Orchestra or other realistic shooters (they are still fun!) In those games 1 shot to the chest or head is an instant kill, no matter WHAT weapon you use. You have to adjust your play style in this game. RAMBO-ING will get you killed. You need to move cover to cover tactically, with a team and some have to cover the guys that are moving, then when they reach cover they turn and cover your movement. If there is a sniper picking you off you have to slow down, figure out where he is and then make a plan to take him out. You just don't keep throwing yourself at his field of fire. Spwn elsewhere, make it your mission to flank him and take him out. This game is not Quake, not UT it is not a spam fest of killing. (especially so on HC) If you can't handle that then I suggest you move on and play something else.

For me, HC is the only way to go. I can't stand unloading 25 shots into someones chest to make them die. And one of my biggest complaints of BF2 was that it took 2 shots with sniper weapons to kill, unless it was a head shot. You take a .50 anywhere and I assure you, you will not be having a good day. Center mass = dead, any other hit means you wander around looking for the part that is suddenly no longer attached to your body, arm, leg, hand etc.

What's this? Tactics and teamwork in a tactical team-oriented game mode? Blasphemer!

I see plenty of people scurrying around in HC. I have never seen these "Recon wars" everyone else seems to find. By the way, the last HC round I played I was a Recon (muahahahah), with 5 captures (I was part of almost every flag capture) and 15 kills supporting my squad (I can remember 2 were other Recons).

If you can't see other people it's probably because you're spending too much time on the ground as a result of running in the open, alone, without a plan.

[Bainshie]

Hardcore is no fun. Everyone stands in a window, or goes recon. No one sees anyone. It's like hide-n-seek.

With bullets.

No.

I dunno, that sounds like a new playground game.

Hide and Seek plus!

You kids remember the good old fashioned hide and Seek? Now you can enjoy it all over again, but now with live ammunition.

Hide and Seek. Now with bullets!

[mithikx]

m24 with magnum rounds can 1 shot most of the time on non hardcore

[shotbirds]

limit recon PER SQUAD

[UWReason3D]

Boz;13956760']I guess OP has never played games like Red Orchestra or other realistic shooters (they are still fun!) In those games 1 shot to the chest or head is an instant kill, no matter WHAT weapon you use.

red orchestra is a WW2 game, and a shot to the chest in a modern fighting game means they have a vest on and wouldnt be put down.

[SpunkyKuma]

OMG there's a reason I avoid HC, maybe you should too.

[xMrAx]

In the real world you get hit by a sniper bullet anywhere you are out of the fight.

[HK11]

I loled at the OP's post. What's the point of Hardcore if rifles are not deadly? Shall we intoduce HelloKitty mode and issue recons butter knives?

That would be more fun probably. And it would cause misery to COD players and that makes me smile.

[Korlis]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

The only good thing about Hardcore mode is the damage mechanic. And you want to nerf it?

I don't know about you, but if I got shot with a bolt action rifle it would kill me, even if I dint take it in the head, so I think maybe sniper rifles getting 1shot kills in the super-high damage mode is ok.

[Inimical_rize]

Quit ♥♥♥♥♥ing, Jesus how do you think soldiers feel being pinned down by a sniper, some poor fek like me has to put his noggin over the edge or round the corner to find him, quit crying or quit the game.

[Kalabalana]

just limit the recon per team

fixed

No, I love playing games where the other team is all recon, my team will ♥♥♥♥ (on hc servers though, more team oriented there)

[Argonites]

Why in hell do people even post this ♥♥♥♥?

Heres an idea:

If you enjoy HC mode, play it.

If you don't enjoy HC mode, don't play it.

Such a hard decision huh?

[[HH]Boz]

red orchestra is a WW2 game, and a shot to the chest in a modern fighting game means they have a vest on and wouldnt be put down.

No vest made will protect you from a .50 round and as you move down the caliber a vest does start to offer some protection. Since America and our allies are the only ones even partially equipping our soldiers with vests then I suggest the insurgent team does not get to use them. (just kidding....dumb thing to do but you get the point) You get hit in the chest with a 7.62 round and you will fall down, be bruised, in pain and may even be killed. None of which is depicted. So although I agree that modern warfare has a vest and WWII did not when it comes to rounds it takes to kill, I still think a sniper should kill in 1 shot to center mass or headshot, and any other gun should only take 1 or maybe 2-3 at most to kill. NOT HALF MY FREAKING MAG. When you make a person that does not die from just a few shots then you get bunny hoppers. Already seen many of those in this game.

[louie the rat]

I loled at the OP's post. What's the point of Hardcore if rifles are not deadly? Shall we intoduce HelloKitty mode and issue recons butter knives?

edit:

I wouldn't really :P

Im glad you said that edit

[Webthing]

again

server owners failing to put the hardmode description in the server tag gets the wrong people on the wrong server

those people complain because they cant understand the game they are playing and feel forced to quit when they want to play

then some hardmode fans start to crusade those people because they have no right to complain?

basically get this hardmode tagging/filtering fixed and most problems will be solved
are we hearing people complain because squadrush mode or deathmatch mode sucks?

[cinek]

you don't need hc to kill with a single sniper bullet... I do it all the time in normal mode... just need to learn how to snipe...

[iiSupermanii]

OMG +1

omg+2

[Shinobi68]

It's great not being able to Q to spot but frigging all anyone is doing is going recon and camping. If you try to move you get sniped from all ♥♥♥♥ing angle.

Stupid.

Learn to use smoke and cover & conceal it will help you from getting sniped...don't run and gun. If you doubt what a sniper rifle can do in reality do some ballistic research (even on Wiki) to get an idea about what types of body armor most sniper rifle chamberings will defeat.

Or

Just don't play hardcore. Hardcore is for us people who prefer at least some degree of realism.

you don't need hc to kill with a single sniper bullet... I do it all the time in normal mode... just need to learn how to snipe... I received an expert sharpshooter medal in the military, and was in law enforcement for 3 years. Where is it that you think snipers are trained to shoot?

I will give you a clue because from your statement it is obvious that you do not know. Everybody trains to shoot center body mass...and in some cases two rounds to the chest and one to the head...but that is more for handgun tactical. Center body mass is the correct place to Snipe. If you have doubts go on Youtube and search for Futureweapons, and or the latest Sniper interview with the guy who did the 1.5 mile shot in Afghanistan and broke Hathcock's longest confirmed Sniper kill (Vietnam era). None of them are head shots....it's not a practical place to aim.

But it looks like you found a work around in Normal mode..which is where you should play if you think that is how to sniper. HC is for us guys who understand things differently.

[Bainshie]

The problem with sniper being 1 shot kill, when every other weapon in the game isn't 1 shot kill, is very very very simple.

Look at what happend with Quake 3. People became so good with the Railgun that they could use it in any situation. No other weapon was really needed since the problems with its short range use could be negated with skill.

Things got better when the railgun was tuned down into a two shot kill weapon.

Same principle here.

[Bainshie]

Also all these people who are talking about realism have no clue

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/ultra_realistic_modern_warfare

Do you really want this in a game? because THAT is a realism.

[A. James]

noobcore mode - it's for the noob. The only thing that makes it "hardcore" is the removal of x hairs. Just aim for the head in normal mode...bc ya know ankle shots and arm shots aren't really supposed to kill in one or 2 shots...

[Furious Dre]

It's great not being able to Q to spot but frigging all anyone is doing is going recon and camping. If you try to move you get sniped from all ♥♥♥♥ing angle.

Stupid.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1184457

[Kommodore]

Am I the only one who thinks the sniper concentration is more map dependent that on the HC being on, I mean the beta map (cant remember name) everyone always snipes on the hill, but other stages and maps snipers are useless even in hardcore if your at closer ranges or want to actually do the objective.

Plus if you don't like 1 shot-dead don't play hardcore, it wouldn't make sense to half-hardcore, where some classes are high damage and others aren't.

And for the last time STOP INSULTING COD PLAYERS! I was one, I bought this game and don't play CoD much anymore. Isn't that what we want? Jeez.

[Alex4Life]

I loled at the OP's post. What's the point of Hardcore if rifles are not deadly? Shall we intoduce HelloKitty mode and issue recons butter knives?


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