Titan Quest compared

[HAO]

Alright Torchlight is the awesome. $5 sale = epic win for us new guys.

I'm just wondering what the deal is with this Titan Quest game. Is it good? How does it compare to Torchlight? Does it do things better and some things worse?


Anyone wanna break it down for me:)

Thanks

[Darth Postal]

IMO, Titan Quest is much worse than Torchlight.

Though I have never finished Titan Quest because of how anoying it was. Maybe in the end it gets better, but I highly doubt it.

My main points of frustration in TQ:

1. Some mobs are rediculously higher level than you.
You kill all the mobs on your way. Do all the side quests. You expect to have the highest level possible. DENIED!!! You suddenly run into guy that almost 10 levels higher and he owns you. Over and over. Over and over. Until suddenly he gliches and freezes in place. Now you can kill him with your ranged weapon.

2. Inventory.
Boots take 6 slots (2x3 square). Spears take 4 slots (1x4), some chests take 4 slots (2x2), some take 6 (2x3). It makes you play "tetris" all the time! At firs it's kinda fun, but it quickly becomes very anoying.

3. Loot.
Good loot is very rare. I reached LvL 10 in TQ without finding a single "uncommon" quality item. Right now I'm LvL 11 in Torchlight and I have 3 "gold" items, 1 "purple" and a truckload of "blues". Feel the difference.


On the bright side. TQ has more variety of classes. Plus, at certain point you can choose the second class. So the ammount of possible skill combinations is realy huge.

[kThanks]

I liked Titan Quest, but I have a lot of gripes about the game.

Torchlight on the other hand hooked me in a way that TQ completely failed to do. It looks better, and it's much more satisfying to play.

[Schmier]

Titan quest with the expansion is pure gold.I suggest you should get the gold edition for 10€.
it sure is hard as hell and co-op which makes it a little easier.
and Torchlight doesnt look better but you should definetly check it out before the sale ends! its really addicting and fun to play even if its a bit repetitive but still it's probably the best 4€ i've ever spent on:)
p.s i think i should have commented about titan quest sorry for that :P

[RosietheRiveter]

Titan Quest + Immortal Throne is the way to go :)
Changing up your class and mastery (37 combinations) (http://www.titancalc.com/) certainly extends the playability.
Each chapter covers a different mythology
Graphics are varied and slick.

The only thing that drove me nuts was the rubber banding in the Tower of Judgement
I had success in correcting this by enabling multicore support
If you have dual core (or any form of multicore):
Go in documents > my games > titanquestimmortalthrone > settings >
Open the file ''options.txt''
Change ''forceSingleProcessorMode = true" to ''forceSingleProcessorMode = false"

[zhang333]

Titan Quest drags on and on. I actually explored every corner of the game and did every single sidequest, only took me 61 hours.

I think I'll take a long break before I start on Torchlight.

[in.meinem.turm.]

Changing up your class and mastery (37 combinations) (http://www.titancalc.com/) certainly extends the playability.

well having to play the same level layout every time you restart the game kills the replayability completely.
Really. Diablo had randomy generated levels in 1996. If Titan Quest had this feature and a lot mor monster-types it could have been great.

[Echonian]

Personally, I love both.

Titan Quest as a game is better overall in my opinion, due to the inclusion of co-op.

But Torchlight has its moments, so far at least. Randomly generated levels are both a + and a - to me, in this case they work quite well. But in a game like Titan Quest, random level layouts wouldn't have worked with the quest structure or kept you as immersed into the story.

They're both unique games, and honestly, both great. For 20$, or 5$ when they go on sales, they're great to have. Titan Quest does have a bit of an annoyance factor in it at first - but if you take the time to look past it the game has a lot of lasting value.

[Duddee]

Personally, I think both games are complete ripoffs of diablo 2 and if anyone is looking for a game to play. Just go buy diablo 2. You don't have a clue how many ppl still play it.

[RavN]

Positives:
-Cool Setting
-Amazing stable graphics that look good even today
-Nice amount of skill trees that can be mixed
-Ok monster design - would be better if monsters had more special attacks
incredible diversity of environments

Negatives:
-Not all skills are useful, some are overpowered or cheap
-Non randomized and repetative!
-Superlinear
-Have to grind to get loot
-Everything that is not rare or better is useless
-Some bad voices and sound effects
-dumb shallow story
-Some instability and rubberbanding in certain areas
-No blood
-Some gameplay imbalances (hard bosses or overleveled mobs)
-Not enough loot and small inventory
-Leveling takes progressively longer

Overall, I enjoy torchlight a little bit more. Titan quest with expansion entertained me for a while, at least enough to finish it twice. Then it got quite boring and repetitious. Once you figure out how to play and where to put attribute and skill points, the game is the same thing over and over with little challenge or surprise. Torchlight stays fun for longer. Still, if titan quest and immortal throne was on sale or cheap I would definately recommend it, its a solid game.

[motrin]

sounds like ppl have a lot of negative things to say about TQ.. i'd suggest Oblivion IV. epic game!

[RavN]

Well like I said I liked TQ but there are a lot of things to personally nitpick in that game. I still think its a slightly above average action rpg. I also have a lot of complaining to do about unmodded oblivion!

[5aber]

Titan Quest + Immortal Throne is the way to go :)
Changing up your class and mastery (37 combinations) (http://www.titancalc.com/) certainly extends the playability.
Each chapter covers a different mythology
Graphics are varied and slick.

The only thing that drove me nuts was the rubber banding in the Tower of Judgement
I had success in correcting this by enabling multicore support

Are you telling me I racked about 100 deaths in that place because of lag (and XMax+low poison resistance, but shh) when I could have enabled multicore? :(

[in.meinem.turm.]

Oblivion IV

There is no Oblivion IV. It's just the 4th part of a series. Do you also call Morrowind Morrowind III?

[PieMonster777]

Titan Quest drags on and on. I actually explored every corner of the game and did every single sidequest, only took me 61 hours.

I think I'll take a long break before I start on Torchlight.

I agree, TQ (with expansion) does go on a bit longer than it should. I've been playing it reqularlly with a friend for about 2-3 hours a week. We started about a year and a half ago and are barely reaching the end.

[HAO]

Thnx all for your great responses, you've tipped the scales in favor of buying and trying it, especially for the co-p aspect.

Now if we could just get STeam to put this sucker on sale!

[in.meinem.turm.]

Thnx all for your great responses, you've tipped the scales in favor of buying and trying it, especially for the co-p aspect.

Now if we could just get STeam to put this sucker on sale!

you might want to test the demo?
It is a good game totally worth it's price here but it could still have been so much better...

http://www.gamershell.com/download_13703.shtml

[HAO]

you might want to test the demo?
It is a good game totally worth it's price here but it could still have been so much better...

http://www.gamershell.com/download_13703.shtml

Yea Steam carries the demo so I got it, haven't tried it yet though.

[motrin]

There is no Oblivion IV. It's just the 4th part of a series. Do you also call Morrowind Morrowind III?

come on what forum are we on??? video game forums!! didnt think i had to type the whole name for some one to know what i was talking about!!

[OGkush&CO]

Alright Torchlight is the awesome. $5 sale = epic win for us new guys.

I'm just wondering what the deal is with this Titan Quest game. Is it good? How does it compare to Torchlight? Does it do things better and some things worse?


Anyone wanna break it down for me:)

Thanks

You have to play Titan Quest multiplayer. I suppose some people can enjoy it by themselves, but it really shines with multiple people, in particular good friends so that you can distribute items. The more people you have the more loot that drops thus increasing your chances of finding the good stuff. Once you start playing through on the more difficult settings, even more powerful items start dropping. Yes it is linear, but the maps are beautifully crafted so that replaying them is really enjoyable. Any balance problems are fixed by playing with friends...hell most people think the game is too easy and there are a bunch of mods that make the game insanely more difficult. As for comparing it to Diablo, I would only buy Diablo for nostalgia, because while they are very similar, TQ is a lot more polished and much more complex. Also the items look much more badass in TQ.

[HAO]

You have to play Titan Quest multiplayer. I suppose some people can enjoy it by themselves, but it really shines with multiple people, in particular good friends so that you can distribute items. The more people you have the more loot that drops thus increasing your chances of finding the good stuff. Once you start playing through on the more difficult settings, even more powerful items start dropping. Yes it is linear, but the maps are beautifully crafted so that replaying them is really enjoyable. Any balance problems are fixed by playing with friends...hell most people think the game is too easy and there are a bunch of mods that make the game insanely more difficult. As for comparing it to Diablo, I would only buy Diablo for nostalgia, because while they are very similar, TQ is a lot more polished and much more complex. Also the items look much more badass in TQ.

Very well said my friend. So I can play the whole game from start to finish co-op? Also what if I don't know anyone who owns this game, can I just join a game or server etc?

Thanks

[CannibalBob]

Personally, I think both games are complete ripoffs of diablo 2 and if anyone is looking for a game to play. Just go buy diablo 2. You don't have a clue how many ppl still play it.

Both games, TQ and Torchlight, make huge improvements over Diablo 2. Hell, potions don't even stack in Diablo 2... talk about antique.

[Metro]

I bought Titan Quest and the Expansion package when it was on sale for $5. Great price I'm sure but haven't played it in months after only about four hours -- can't stand the lack of inventory space.

[medieval76]

here ill give u honest opion of how titan quest and torch light compare
most people tend to stay away from games that play like the diablo series im a fan of all 3 games as i own them all. first of ill tell u about titan quest. great soundtrack, good graphics, fun and uniuqe gameplay, wonderful class system were u can combine multiple classes which i don't see in many diablo style rpgs, town portals are free cause ur character just summons a portal when ever u need to. the minors lows of titan quest are minor fps drops and inventory space is an issue tho u can upgrade this within a couple hours of playing the game. i would definatley recomend titan quest. the company that made it iron lore went out of buisness and there is a fan patch that adresses some of the fps issues again its not a perfect game but it is addictive.

torch light i bought last night and i have played thru it once before at a friends house. graphics are good, soundtrack kinda reminds me of diablo 1 in a weird sort of way, lots endless fun violence, pet system, good classes were i have a desire to try all 3 eventually. i can't really give u many lows on torch light and i believe its still on sale for like 5 dollars. i do find it kinda annoying how u keep having to drag and drop items in ur pets inventory but i think its more of a personal issue haha. also to my knowledge torch light is only sp at the moment which isn't a bad thing.
hope that helps i got titan quest gold when it was on sale a while back its up to u but i find them both enjoyable

[PirateH]

here ill give u honest opion of how titan quest and torch light compare
most people tend to stay away from games that play like the diablo series im a fan of all 3 games as i own them all. first of ill tell u about titan quest. great soundtrack, good graphics, fun and uniuqe gameplay, wonderful class system were u can combine multiple classes which i don't see in many diablo style rpgs, town portals are free cause ur character just summons a portal when ever u need to. the minors lows of titan quest are minor fps drops and inventory space is an issue tho u can upgrade this within a couple hours of playing the game. i would definatley recomend titan quest. the company that made it iron lore went out of buisness and there is a fan patch that adresses some of the fps issues again its not a perfect game but it is addictive.

torch light i bought last night and i have played thru it once before at a friends house. graphics are good, soundtrack kinda reminds me of diablo 1 in a weird sort of way, lots endless fun violence, pet system, good classes were i have a desire to try all 3 eventually. i can't really give u many lows on torch light and i believe its still on sale for like 5 dollars. i do find it kinda annoying how u keep having to drag and drop items in ur pets inventory but i think its more of a personal issue haha. also to my knowledge torch light is only sp at the moment which isn't a bad thing.
hope that helps i got titan quest gold when it was on sale a while back its up to u but i find them both enjoyable

About the drag and drop in pet inventory.. You can just Shift (or Ctrl, not sure) click on the item to put it in your pet's inventory.

[phile]

I've not got particularly far with either of them yet but my early impression is that Torchlight is just more engaging & fun. This is not to say that TQ is rubbish - it isn't - but it seems to take itself a lot more seriously.

Torchlight has a better save/load system where you actually start a session from exactly where you left off the last one, rather than at the nearest checkpoint. TQ probably has a more varied & interesting character progression.

So at the moment, Torchlight is the one for me. I'll definitely be playing TQ again, but not until after I've finished with Torchlight.

[Burbots Revenge]

Titan Quests is to old and ugly compared to Torchlight. TQ goes boring soon also.
(Just my opinion)

[spyrochaete]

Torchlight is a fun little game with a lot of smart design decisions. I much prefer Titan Quest though. It has better graphics, more classes and skills, more maps, enemies, and variety. Plus Titan Quest has multiplayer for up to 6 people, which is the most requested feature that Torchlight will never have (until the MMO comes out).

It's reasonable to want to compare these games, but remember that Titan Quest was a full-priced triple-A title whereas Torchlight is a value-priced, less ambitious little game. Both games are great for what they are but personally if I could only pick one game it would be Titan Quest just because it has more content.

[PirateH]

Titan Quests is to old and ugly compared to TQ. TQ goes boring soon also.
(Just my opinion)

You should read your post again :D

[T@F]

I like torchlight tbh,my only grip is i miss the outside world walking about finding caves to enter ect,it seems i'm stuck in a town with portals to enter all the time.
(The type i'm talking about is more on the lines of divine divinity play style.)

But still a good game tbh,as for tq well i don't mind it but only played 30 mins or so at me mates house.
That 30 mins was more than enough to tell me to wait for a cheap offer on steam for it.
it's does have the dd play style though so thats a plus.

[Obeliske]

IMO, Titan Quest is much worse than Torchlight.

Though I have never finished Titan Quest because of how anoying it was. Maybe in the end it gets better, but I highly doubt it.

My main points of frustration in TQ:

1. Some mobs are rediculously higher level than you.
You kill all the mobs on your way. Do all the side quests. You expect to have the highest level possible. DENIED!!! You suddenly run into guy that almost 10 levels higher and he owns you. Over and over. Over and over. Until suddenly he gliches and freezes in place. Now you can kill him with your ranged weapon.

2. Inventory.
Boots take 6 slots (2x3 square). Spears take 4 slots (1x4), some chests take 4 slots (2x2), some take 6 (2x3). It makes you play "tetris" all the time! At firs it's kinda fun, but it quickly becomes very anoying.

3. Loot.
Good loot is very rare. I reached LvL 10 in TQ without finding a single "uncommon" quality item. Right now I'm LvL 11 in Torchlight and I have 3 "gold" items, 1 "purple" and a truckload of "blues". Feel the difference.


On the bright side. TQ has more variety of classes. Plus, at certain point you can choose the second class. So the ammount of possible skill combinations is realy huge.

This is easily the worst reasons for anythign ive ever heard.

1) ive never had this issue with anything except bosses like the cyclops and if the bosses werent hard to beat wtf is the point of playing right here you show that you want to breeze through your games... go play some popcap why dont you.

2) different peices take up different space not all chests for instance take up 2/2 some are 3/2 and i dont recall any boots taking up 3/2 though i do know as a caster my boots take up 2/2. If your going ot pass false info at least do it right.

3) If all your loots is gold and purple at level 10 is it really rare? at what point is rare truly rare? you want free loot go play WoW nub. In Torchlight the color isnt the rarity but how powerful it is and to be handed strong stuff off regular mobs defeats the purpose of bosses.

In TitanQuest the bosses are really epic and you feel like your doing something. In Torchlight it fealt like a grind with every 5 dungeon levels you get a new dungeon setting (scenery) and new mobs. It got to the point where i was just going through it to get through it. The storyline in both is very good in TitanQuest you take on all the old monsters like Jason and the argonauts type stuff, Torchlight is more Fantasy based. Its mostly prefrence overall imo TQ W. expansion > Torchlight

I will say torchlight has some really unique aspects that work very well (the pet system, autolooting gold ect) and has more replayability (while TQ has a rediculas amount of customization via class the story and setting are always the same Torchlight has a random dungeon generator wich means things are different eachtime) however theres only one town in the entire game gets kinda boring it really becomes a grind (im roughly 40 levels down currently so i feel ive givin it a fair shake) you never really see anything new.

[Maledictus010]

TQ is the best game of the two. For one, it actually works. TL is a crashfest for me, as it is for many people out there. Apart from that, I feel there's no sense of achievement and continuity in TL. It's just map clearing, one after another. The random nature of the maps is highly overrated; the tilesets are always the same (for the 7 or so dungeon types) and the room and/or map architecture isn't that random so that you would think you're playing a completely new game every time. TQ conveys a much bigger sense of immersion, if only because it's actually one great big huge map you're traversing. The map is indeed always the same, but its size more than makes up for that (as far as I'm concerned). Also the writing and voice work is much better in TQ, which again adds to immersion. The robust class system drives the point home.
TL is for instant gratification afficianados, it's a safe and simple snack of a game. TQ is the 'real' game, of the two. I think.

I don't think though that it's entirely fair to compare these two games. TL was never meant to be a AAA game with high production values and such. It's a simple in-between sort of thing. TQ took longer to develop and is in many ways a much bigger game.

[Ben Affleck]

I feel there's no sense of achievement and continuity in TL. It's just map clearing, one after another. The random nature of the maps is highly overrated; the tilesets are always the same (for the 7 or so dungeon types) and the room and/or map architecture isn't that random so that you would think you're playing a completely new game every time. TQ conveys a much bigger sense of immersion, if only because it's actually one great big huge map you're traversing. The map is indeed always the same, but its size more than makes up for that (as far as I'm concerned). Also the writing and voice work is much better in TQ, which again adds to immersion. The robust class system drives the point home.
TL is for instant gratification aficionados, it's a safe and simple snack of a game. TQ is the 'real' game, of the two. I think.

I don't think though that it's entirely fair to compare these two games. TL was never meant to be a AAA game with high production values and such. It's a simple in-between sort of thing. TQ took longer to develop and is in many ways a much bigger game.

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[HAO]

Titan Quest + Immortal Throne is the way to go :)
Changing up your class and mastery (37 combinations) (http://www.titancalc.com/) certainly extends the playability.
Each chapter covers a different mythology
Graphics are varied and slick.

The only thing that drove me nuts was the rubber banding in the Tower of Judgement
I had success in correcting this by enabling multicore support

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