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Entegy
03-31-2010, 09:48 PM
I haven't the chance to look at coop yet (having too much fun with Story Mode) but is the coop online or is it local only?

Mr_Fayce
03-31-2010, 09:53 PM
Local only.

ice_breaker
03-31-2010, 09:53 PM
Local Only.
[Ninjaed]

Sandiirules
04-01-2010, 08:08 AM
Bugger, thats a real shame. Wouldnt really have the oppertunity to play co-op like that. I guess its a no buy for me then =(

Skaery
04-01-2010, 09:41 AM
Bugger, thats a real shame. Wouldnt really have the oppertunity to play co-op like that. I guess its a no buy for me then =(
Still a fun game, even though online co-op would be great.

KyuzoS7
04-01-2010, 01:30 PM
then why say co-op multyplayer? another audiosurf game >.< that would of been great with multyplayer too.

Skaery
04-01-2010, 04:06 PM
then why say co-op multyplayer? another audiosurf game >.< that would of been great with multyplayer too.
True. When I see "co-op" I read "online co-op", and I was somewhat surprised it was only local.

Bingojubes
05-02-2010, 12:48 AM
i wish it had online, co-op, as well.

passthemayo
05-12-2010, 03:40 PM
There are very few games these days that offer local co-op; most only offer it on-line or via a LAN. I am very happy to see that this title offers local co-op. Like many PC gamers these days, I play all of my PC games on my HTPC in the living room. I like to play with my wife and friends together on the same system, in the same room, looking at the same 57" screen, sharing the same 12 pack. This is especially true for the classic "retro-inspired" games like this. That's the way these games were meant to be played! Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy the on-line multi-player/co-op games as well. I play MW2, L4D2, etc, all the time. It's just nice to see a good local co-op game for a change. a BIG THANKS to the developers!

Snowju
06-08-2010, 07:43 PM
I, too, wish the game supported online co-op. I was looking for games to play with my friend in another town and saw this game supporting co-op but not specifying if it was online or not. When I found out it was local only, I was highly disappointed :(

Ph0X_b01
06-30-2010, 02:35 PM
Same.

Game developers don't seem to realize how fun coop is for gamers. I, personally, would play even the ♥♥♥♥tiest games if it had coop, because we could all laugh together at how horrible the game is and have fun together.

So, it's really a shame when they won't take just couple hours to make a simple netcode to allow players to play online coop.

If only they knew by how much this would increase the sales of their games...

But wait, is this local coop as in on the same computer, or two computer on LAN? Because then, can't we use hamachi?

DaracSjet
06-30-2010, 02:45 PM
Same computer i'm afraid.

The fact is that we 'could' keep adding features to Shatter and we could go on and on and on about what is missing and what would make it better. The thing is if we did we would never ship the title. Being an indie developer and funding it ourselves we really needed to get it out there and start seeing a return on our investment. After the big response from the PSN version we listened to the customers and added local co-op and some extra modes. If enough of you band together and screem for online co-op then it'll rise higher on our list of possible updates.

Thanks for the support either way. Hope you enjoy the local co-op.

Sol Kyoshiro
06-30-2010, 02:52 PM
Same computer i'm afraid.

The fact is that we 'could' keep adding features to Shatter and we could go on and on and on about what is missing and what would make it better. The thing is if we did we would never ship the title. Being an indie developer and funding it ourselves we really needed to get it out there and start seeing a return on our investment. After the big response from the PSN version we listened to the customers and added local co-op and some extra modes. If enough of you band together and screem for online co-op then it'll rise higher on our list of possible updates.

Thanks for the support either way. Hope you enjoy the local co-op.

*deep breath* ONLINEEEEE COOO-OOOOPPPPPPPP

placeboing
06-30-2010, 03:01 PM
Well, personally, I would have told my friends to buy this game if it had online co-op. I surely could have gotten a lot of people on my board to buy it, considering the current AMAZING price of $2.50.

However, since it doesn't have online co-op, I'm not telling them to buy it. There simply is no reason for me to care if they own it or not... I can never interact with them in-game.

DaracSjet
06-30-2010, 03:08 PM
Well, personally, I would have told my friends to buy this game if it had online co-op. I surely could have gotten a lot of people on my board to buy it, considering the current AMAZING price of $2.50.

However, since it doesn't have online co-op, I'm not telling them to buy it. There simply is no reason for me to care if they own it or not... I can never interact with them in-game.

There is head to head interaction in the form of Leaderboards!

We place your friends (from your steam friends list) scores to beat and their name on the screen as you play. So there is room for a lot of head to head competition.

.Rad
06-30-2010, 03:10 PM
Well, personally, I would have told my friends to buy this game if it had online co-op. I surely could have gotten a lot of people on my board to buy it, considering the current AMAZING price of $2.50.

However, since it doesn't have online co-op, I'm not telling them to buy it. There simply is no reason for me to care if they own it or not... I can never interact with them in-game.

That's a really weird frame of mind. I always tell my friends about any good single player game I play because they're my friends and I want them to have fun, regardless of if it's with me or not.

placeboing
06-30-2010, 03:14 PM
There is head to head interaction in the form of Leaderboards!

We place your friends (from your steam friends list) scores to beat and their name on the screen as you play. So there is room for a lot of head to head competition.
I know, but... my friends aren't competitive enough to want to beat each others scores on a game like this. If there was a mode where we could work together, interacting online, they would all be interested, because live interaction is an entirely different thing. That's why we all play games like Minecraft, L4D, TF2, etc - we are working together to do things online.

Its just two very different things.

However, for MYSELF, I very much enjoy this game, and am glad I spent $2.50. It has very fun singleplayer, as I've always enjoyed Breakout-style games.

kloon
07-01-2010, 04:13 AM
Would also really love to see some kinda online co-op mode in the not too distant future =). Maybe co-op campaign aswell? ;)

CammoDude
07-01-2010, 07:32 AM
This game would be even cooler with the ability to play with your friends via LAN or WAN. I guess local is okay, but it's just not awesome. :D

Abol65
07-01-2010, 10:37 AM
It would be really really great if this game would have onlice coop. Bought tghis game on the daily deal and I like it very much but online coop is always very funny.

Pazuzu
07-01-2010, 11:00 AM
Gimme dat co-op.

Kuzoh
07-01-2010, 12:32 PM
For me the steam sale plus the video and screenshots nailed me instantly. To be honest I never even knew this game existed until the sale brought it to my eyes. I saw two bats in action and was literally shouting out loud "holly ♥♥♥♥ co-op?!" so I scrolled down to skim the "About the Game" section and glanced at the "co-op" in green to the right in the Game Detail box. Then, I immediately bought it and gifted one to a friend. Yes I did act a little to hasty, but I was kind of disappointed to find out we couldn't play together.

There wasn't any real mention on the page about it not being online co-op-able. I know you didn't intentionally want to fool people about this particular topic, but this is how I felt about it. Perhaps steam needs a new Game Detail that indicates online co-op and 'side by side' co-op (not sure what the technical term is). On the flip side there are a couple similar arcade type games I would love to see have a 'side by side' co-op.

Hope I don't sound mean or anything. Still a great game. Even my friend loves it and we are in a heated competition to beat each other's score via steam leaderboards (great feature by the way). I just wanted to let you know where some people might be getting disappointed from.

Edit: Forgot to mention that both me and my friend would love to see online co-op.

DaracSjet
07-01-2010, 02:53 PM
Yeah this has be mentioned a few times. I'm sure we've also suggested it to steam as well. I might follow up on that actually.

Sevla
07-01-2010, 06:28 PM
The game is amazing, if it get a update that add a "versus multiplayer online" simple like Pong but with 3 balls would be perfect.

This kind of "competitive" feature make a game last longer.

Ggd07
07-03-2010, 07:02 PM
Any chance this game getting online co-op or some kind of online multiplayer ?

Maybe, consider making a paid downloaded content or something.

I am saying paid, because money always motivates developers.

I my self am trying to get in the game development industry from years by self-teaching myself various aspects of the development processes, and I want to soon attend at a school. Although I don't think about commercialism, I think money always (inspires) the developer.

So it would be nice if we get online co-op on this game, but I know it would be hard to do it, if the game was not meant to be online.

You could make a 20-30% of the price of the game, a downloadable content package, which will provide it, or just make Shatter 2 more awesome, and with online activities.

Also, I noticed strange "movement" of the "ball" during the "sphere" levels, where the ball doesnt make any sense when it bounces. Other than all, great game, and the leaderboards make it more fun and competitive, although I really am amazed at some of the scores :D

(*sorry if I have grammar mistakes, I write too hasty sometimes*)

Kewp
07-05-2010, 03:29 AM
online co op plox

passthemayo
07-05-2010, 11:20 PM
I have to say, this is an absolutely superb video game. The ability to play local co-op really sets it apart from most modern PC games. No need for on-line coop for me. Well done as-is developers! Thanks for a great, inexpensive game!

Misoski
07-06-2010, 04:53 AM
Co-op local oh well =O

But because it had such a fabulous friend ranking leaderboards and being such an awesome game, I bought it for 25 friends for such low pricing =O

DaracSjet
07-06-2010, 03:10 PM
Thanks Misoski!

InverseAgonist
07-08-2010, 11:24 AM
I have no complaints about the lack of online co-op, but if you make a Shatter 2 the possibilities for not online online co-op but head-to-head action would be tremendous. Imagine bats on opposite sides trying to get the ball past them but ALSO competing for the shards and blowing dangerous objects toward their opponent (but at the expense of blowing the goodies toward them as well). Weird bosses or entities that with the corrects hits can trigger attacks against the opponent, etc. Or one of the players BECOMES the boss for certain levels! There are so many cool avenues to explore!

KyRoS
07-09-2010, 11:54 AM
No matter what, this is a great indie game. I've love to see online co-op, but for the $2.50 I paid, it's a great game and one I could recommend to anyone who likes this type of game. I'm quite happy with it, but no doubt that online co-op would be a great feature.

Alaric
07-10-2010, 11:58 AM
There are very few games these days that offer local co-op; most only offer it on-line or via a LAN. I am very happy to see that this title offers local co-op. Like many PC gamers these days, I play all of my PC games on my HTPC in the living room. I like to play with my wife and friends together on the same system, in the same room, looking at the same 57" screen, sharing the same 12 pack. This is especially true for the classic "retro-inspired" games like this. That's the way these games were meant to be played! Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy the on-line multi-player/co-op games as well. I play MW2, L4D2, etc, all the time. It's just nice to see a good local co-op game for a change. a BIG THANKS to the developers!

I agree. If it's at all practical (depending on style of game play) I'd like to see as many multiplayer modes as possible (local, LAN, online); having options and customization is what makes PC gaming so great. Add my vote for an online co-op feature to complement the local co-op.

NazcaC2
07-12-2010, 09:46 PM
Yes, it's a great game and I must say the most fun indie game I've played. I too would like to see online co-op as well. It'd be also cool if there was a map editor that people could use. The user could choose the paths that the objects take (rotations, etc.) and these maps could also be setup for online play. To take it a step further, there could be such things like Online Deathmatch - one or two players at one end vs one or two players at the other end with the same gameplay as local singleplayer (push/pull/shield/etc.). I know it'd be very addictive.

This would take some considerable time to do but if we had to pay more for it as a DLC, I would.

DaracSjet
07-13-2010, 12:18 AM
We did play with a verses mode for a bit but it wan't working to well. Both players being able to push and pull independantly just felt as if you had no effect or an unpredictable effect as they would often cancel eachothers actions out. I'm not saying it's impossible just that it's a harder thing to get right than you might think. In the end we decided we'd rather deliver less content that is of a higher quality than more content of a lesser quality.

Alaric
07-15-2010, 04:56 AM
In the end we decided we'd rather deliver less content that is of a higher quality than more content of a lesser quality.

And this is (part of) the reason you have won my cash and praise. I would rather spend time enjoying a particularly well-done game/feature than (maybe more) time getting annoyed or frustrated by a multitude of buggy options.

Also, I'm indecisive :cool:

This would take some considerable time to do but if we had to pay more for it as a DLC, I would.

Indeed. In addition to added game content (e.g. map packs, character options, etc.), DLC could be an effective way for distributing "official" game modes demanded by the community after a game's release. Developers would already have a gauge of potential demand, and even frugal gamers like myself would be willing to consider reasonably priced DLC especially if the original game itself was polished and believed to be a justified purchase.

DaracSjet
07-15-2010, 02:32 PM
This is an option and it may happen. For example we are planning on rolling back the new PC features back to the PS3 version. The problem is we also have other projects on the go which currently have consumed all out staff so there is simply no one left to do updates at the moment.

vittau
07-17-2010, 10:06 PM
I'm not sure if online co-op would work out so well... Ping would be a very serious issue, even at very low values I think, given the precision this game requires sometimes.
It would take a VERY LOW ping to allow a fluid experience.