To all the people who purchased and have complaints

[SKiLLY2]

Do you now realize why you shouldn't support Ubisoft?

A $60 pricetag should mean that the game is worth it. If many of you are experiencing poor performance, connection problems, and whatever else do you really think the price is justified?

This is why people pirate games. $60 for a, currently, "unplayable" game is ridiculous. No one sane wants to spend that kind of money on something that either doesn't work or works very poorly.

[SnarKs]

launch day. Ill give it some time.

[Ignitionfactor]

Agreed. I wont buy any more ubisoft products. Console or otherwise, until this DRM is gone.

[Ignitionfactor]

launch day. Ill give it some time.

They didnt have any problem taking your money did they? I guarantee if you tried telling them to let you have the game, but just wait a bit for you to pay for it, they would have a problem, eh?

[Harbin]

This is not exactly encouraging to legitimate customers.

[StingingVelvet]

Works fine here... great game so far.

You need to realize that some complaints on the forum happens FOR EVERY GAME, and that most people are playing without issue.

[SnarKs]

They didnt have any problem taking your money did they? I guarantee if you tried telling them to let you have the game, but just wait a bit for you to pay for it, they would have a problem, eh?

what? lol i already bought it off newegg. ill be getting my copy soon. Ill rage if they havent fixed any major problems after a week or two.

[Sick1]

I am one of the people that have complaints such as the screwed up controller issues, but this game is amazing. Drm works perfectly and it feels good knowing all those scum bag pirates can't play the game. :)

[Ignitionfactor]

Works fine here... great game so far.

You need to realize that some complaints on the forum happens FOR EVERY GAME, and that most people are playing without issue.

Hey im just as accepting of open day problems with a game as any pc gamer should be. But not when its because of ♥♥♥♥ drm that its broken. A patch for certain systems? Sure. New vid card drivers? These are the nature of the beast with a PC. But I refuse to support a DRM that insists in connected to the net ALWAYS, because I CANT BE. Obviously I wont be purchasing a game I wont be able to play. 1984 anyone?

[Harbin]

I am one of the people that have complaints such as the screwed up controller issues, but this game is amazing. Drm works perfectly and it feels good knowing all those scum bag pirates can't play the game. :)

Man it feels great knowing those scumbag pirates can't play the game and I, someone who spent 60+ on this game, also cannot. :/

[awpti]

From what I've read on a few forums, they've already busted the DRM for this using same method behind the most recent AC2 crack.

I'll buy this game when Ubisoft patches out the DRM. If they don't patch it out, I'll never buy it. Their loss, not mine. :)

[Azath]

Man it feels great knowing those scumbag pirates can't play the game and I, someone who spent 60+ on this game, also cannot. :/

scumbag pirates eventually will be able to play the game uninterrupted, unlike legit customers.

i'd say 1-2 weeks before fully cracked.

[SKiLLY2]

scumbag pirates eventually will be able to play the game uninterrupted, unlike legit customers.

i'd say 1-2 weeks before fully cracked.

I'm pretty sure the DRM is the exact same "version" as the one used in ACII, meaning it's already cracked.

All it does now is punish the legitimate customers.

[Harbin]

Man I don't know about you but that drm looks great from where I'm standing with these rose-colored corrective-lenses on. And these thumbscrews on my hands.

[Aphrodite]

I have run into absolutely no problems what so ever. Game is running totally smooth on full settings and I'm loving every minute of it.

[SnarKs]

I have run into absolutely no problems what so ever. Game is running totally smooth on full settings and I'm loving every minute of it.

Glad to hear it.

[brokenfish]

Do you now realize why you shouldn't support Ubisoft?
I didn't buy it to support Ubisoft.

The only issue I have is with the wireless controller, but I guess that was already guaranteed to be present (just like some other Ubisoft titles). The game is completely consolized now, and keyboard and mouse controls don't work as well as they used to, but the game is still great.

[StingingVelvet]

Hey im just as accepting of open day problems with a game as any pc gamer should be. But not when its because of ♥♥♥♥ drm that its broken. A patch for certain systems? Sure. New vid card drivers? These are the nature of the beast with a PC. But I refuse to support a DRM that insists in connected to the net ALWAYS, because I CANT BE. Obviously I wont be purchasing a game I wont be able to play. 1984 anyone?

That's a really silly 1984 reference... the CCTV network in Britain is 1984, the new internet monitoring laws in Australia and Britain is 1984... this... this is a computer game with DRM on it, not government control.

Anyway, I have had no connection issues and no one has mentioned any on my home forum, which is why I said it does not apply to everyone.

[Suwako]

Same here. No more Ubisoft products for me until they remove the DRM.

[Freyar]

I've played for 98 minutes now. Smooth sailing except for the matchmaking service not up and running.

[bodybag2224]

No game in recent memory has not had release day issues, so I laugh every-time I see posts like this for a game on launch day, and people act like it's the only game to have such an issue. Sure it sucks but it isn't like this is a rare occurrence now-a-days.

[StingingVelvet]

I've played for 98 minutes now. Smooth sailing except for the matchmaking service not up and running.

Same here, even Uplay works within the game, which it did not in Assassin's Creed 2 that often in my experience.

[KissYourKiller]

Anyone that is complaining needs to realize that the problem is inherent in the non-standardized nature of computer hardware and software thus creating imcompatability issues and bugs. I'm honestly surprised games run on most people's systems at all, since we all have different ones. That's why consoles sell more, because they're simple and more functional.

[SKiLLY2]

No game in recent memory has not had release day issues, so I laugh every-time I see posts like this for a game on launch day, and people act like it's the only game to have such an issue. Sure it sucks but it isn't like this is a rare occurrence now-a-days.

I agree completely but it seems there are a lot of problems relating to the DRM which, at this point, seems pointless because Skidrow (I believe) have already cracked it. All the DRM is doing, at this point, is putting legitimate customers off, who haven't bought the game, and punishing the ones who have with downed servers...

Then there also seems to be an overwhelming number of people with bad performance and/or graphical problems. And from what I hear, the black borders are present unless you play in a widescreen resolution.

All of this, to me, just screams that Ubisoft don't care about PC customers and will just port a game over to try and take your money.

[AussieSausage]

only problem i got with it, is the black and white effect when your hidden, id rather it some other way as black and white isnt my thing.

other then that, game is perfect, not 1 single problem here yet.

wouldnt even know the DRM was there either

[kec789]

I swear, what a bunch of waah waahs. If you don't want to buy the game then don't, your loss. Who gives a flying rats a55 if their DRM requires you to have broadband. When was the last time you ever needed to "log in" to your internet? You're always connected so what's the big deal? You're already logged into Steam most of the time anyway. Oh, and I'll bet all you guys crying about Ubisoft right now were also the ones belly aching about Steam when IT came out too, and look at you all now, logged right in and filling up those Steam accounts.

The game works flawlessly for me from the second I launched it and they did a fantastic job too I might add. I've played most of the day with no interruptions, no "lost saves" no instances where I couldn't log in...nothing.

This isn't directed at the guys who bought it and are having issues. For you guys, hang tight and remember every new game has a few things to fix. Although it makes zero sense to me why so many of us have it working flawlessly and a handful don't. I have 7 buddies who all bought it today and every one of them have been playing with no issues.

For those that just want to continually complain about this new DRM please, for the love of all that's sacred and holy, quit whining and go play something else. Send off an email to Ubi about it and stop clogging up the forums with this dribble. Every single thread in here, no matter what the topic, ends up being a bichfest and we're all sick of hearing it. We all know it will be cracked anyway, we all know the other games that have it have been cracked, we all know that it really won't stop guys from pirating it, blah, blah, blah. The game is great, we don't care if you aren't going to buy it, and Ubi isn't going to care either.

Next!

[DJ_Professor_K]

No game in recent memory has not had release day issues, so I laugh every-time I see posts like this for a game on launch day, and people act like it's the only game to have such an issue. Sure it sucks but it isn't like this is a rare occurrence now-a-days.

There is a diference from games crashes, bugs, etc. and inpropriate DRM that's been in use for some months.

The DRM didn't change, there is no excuse to have issues with it at start, but now game bugs, etc. are always acceptable.


And kec789, no one cares "you" didn't have issues, the truth and fact is there are several dozens (if not hundreds that never use the forums) of players wich already had or still have issues with the DRM.

[kreed_uk]

There is a diference from games crashes, bugs, etc. and inpropriate DRM that's been in use for some months.

The DRM didn't change, there is no excuse to have issues with it at start, but now game bugs, etc. are always acceptable.


And kec789, no one cares "you" didn't have issues, the truth and fact is there are several dozens (if not hundreds that never use the forums) of players wich already had or still have issues with the DRM.

I think the issue is that most of the Anti-Ubi-DRM guys do not own any games implementing this DRM, yet they spend so much time on the game forums hijacking threads and posting the same stuff repeatedly. It’s getting extremely tiring.

I actually have an issue with steam as I own two gaming PC's one is a HTPC. Steam doesn't allow simultaneous logins and I'm having problems with the offline mode. What do I do when I see that a game requires steam to run? I don't buy it. And as a result most of my purchases are made via other digital distributers. I don't ♥♥♥♥♥ about it on forums hoping that it will stop other people from buying steamworks game or that the publisher responsible will crash and burn for their "evil" decision. Doing that would be pointless and the last thing I would want is for another publisher/developer to drop the PC.

If it really bothers you that much, like kec789 said, send an email to Ubisoft expressing your concerns and frustrations.

[StingingVelvet]

I agree completely but it seems there are a lot of problems relating to the DRM which, at this point, seems pointless because Skidrow (I believe) have already cracked it.

This is not a DRM that is cracked once, then always cracked thereafter. The crackers need to play through every piece of content in the game in order to get the signals and make the whole thing playable offline... it will take a while for every new game, which gives Ubisoft a non-piracy window.

[trancemode]

I agree completely but it seems there are a lot of problems relating to the DRM which, at this point, seems pointless because Skidrow (I believe) have already cracked it. All the DRM is doing, at this point, is putting legitimate customers off, who haven't bought the game, and punishing the ones who have with downed servers...

Then there also seems to be an overwhelming number of people with bad performance and/or graphical problems. And from what I hear, the black borders are present unless you play in a widescreen resolution.

All of this, to me, just screams that Ubisoft don't care about PC customers and will just port a game over to try and take your money.

Settlers 7 was DRM and I believe that wasn't even hack yet or pirated by still today.

but most people going to say "but thats settlers 7 who cares!" hahaha

so if the DRM keeps pirates away from this game, then thats good for ubisoft.

only a certain few amounts might be having problem, but you shouldn't just start bashing on a game where other players can play it.

[Ashkent]

There is a diference from games crashes, bugs, etc. and inpropriate DRM that's been in use for some months.

The DRM didn't change, there is no excuse to have issues with it at start, but now game bugs, etc. are always acceptable.


And kec789, no one cares "you" didn't have issues, the truth and fact is there are several dozens (if not hundreds that never use the forums) of players wich already had or still have issues with the DRM.

If they don't use forums, how the hell do you know they are having problems? you know all of these people personally?

[Jito463]

I actually have an issue with steam as I own two gaming PC's one is a HTPC. Steam doesn't allow simultaneous logins and I'm having problems with the offline mode.

So, let me get this straight. Your issue with Steam is that it doesn't let you do something you're not supposed to do anyway? Steam (as with virtually every other game out there) is meant to be used by one person on one computer at a time. The fact that your only issue with it, is that it won't let you violate the terms of use, is very enlightening.

[acolton33]

aw snap

[Shlokda]

Isn't the only problem with DRM that you have to have internet to play? and you don't get infinite installs? Seriously , in this day who doesn't have internet 24/7?

[mezoforte1509]

They didnt have any problem taking your money did they? I guarantee if you tried telling them to let you have the game, but just wait a bit for you to pay for it, they would have a problem, eh?

You just seem really pissed off. I think what we need to do is find out who spit in your soup. Even if the drm is horrible it's tolerable.

[brokenfish]

Isn't the only problem with DRM that you have to have internet to play?
No - sometimes the Ubi servers are unreachable and the launcher tells you to check your connection.

Seriously , in this day who doesn't have internet 24/7?
It's not as big of a problem as some people make it out to be, but it is there.

[StingingVelvet]

Isn't the only problem with DRM that you have to have internet to play? and you don't get infinite installs? Seriously , in this day who doesn't have internet 24/7?

This is true, and a reason I accept it, but the real concern is what happens when Ubi's servers go down.

Hopefully they will release a patch to remove the DRM so paying customers don't need to crack their game to play it in 10 years time.

[Jito463]

Isn't the only problem with DRM that you have to have internet to play? and you don't get infinite installs? Seriously , in this day who doesn't have internet 24/7?

Actually, you do get unlimited installs, but that's irrelevant. As I've said on numerous occasions, the internet issue is the trigger, but the core of the argument is control. Ubisoft wants to have full control over when, where and how we can play our games, by controlling access to the most critical (and unnecessary) point of failure, and we refuse to give them that control.

[kreed_uk]

So, let me get this straight. Your issue with Steam is that it doesn't let you do something you're not supposed to do anyway? Steam (as with virtually every other game out there) is meant to be used by one person on one computer at a time. The fact that your only issue with it, is that it won't let you violate the terms of use, is very enlightening.

I'm not saying anything about wanting to play the same game on both machines.

Steam locks down the use of my whole library, to one machine at a time. So, for example, if my girlfriend wants to play Just Cause 2 on the HTPC I am unable to play CODMW2 on my main PC.

Impulse allows this by the way.

[HeroCrusher]

Worked perfect for me... no complaints from my end.

[djuara]

Settlers 7 was DRM and I believe that wasn't even hack yet or pirated by still today.

but most people going to say "but thats settlers 7 who cares!" hahaha

so if the DRM keeps pirates away from this game, then thats good for ubisoft.

only a certain few amounts might be having problem, but you shouldn't just start bashing on a game where other players can play it.

Settlers 7 was fully cracked by Razor1911. Try google. :)

[djuara]

Isn't the only problem with DRM that you have to have internet to play? and you don't get infinite installs? Seriously , in this day who doesn't have internet 24/7?

Ubisoft's servers are not online 24/7. :)

[Jito463]

I'm not saying anything about wanting to play the same game on both machines.

Steam locks down the use of my whole library, to one machine at a time. So, for example, if my girlfriend wants to play Just Cause 2 on the HTPC I am unable to play CODMW2 on my main PC.

Impulse allows this by the way.

That does make more sense. I suppose I never considered it, since I live alone, and therefore I'm the only one who plays games on my computer.

[StingingVelvet]

I'm not saying anything about wanting to play the same game on both machines.

Steam locks down the use of my whole library, to one machine at a time. So, for example, if my girlfriend wants to play Just Cause 2 on the HTPC I am unable to play CODMW2 on my main PC.

Impulse allows this by the way.

If you sign-in on one machine, then "go offline" and stay that way, you can use the account on both machines at once.

[MystacX]

I had this huge reply here about why you non-DRM Hammer Legion Members had bought the game when you knew about the problems with the DRM and that the game had said DRM. I deleted it. I found a much better way to get my point across. And it's a very simple short sentence and it is at the root of all these problems.

"There would be no need for a DRM this extreme, or any DRM at all, if people would just cough up the money that developers deserve for making their games."

Thank you for your time :)

[Quint]

If they don't use forums, how the hell do you know they are having problems? you know all of these people personally?

lmao

I was about to post that too on DJ's fruitless(and laughing) post,but you already did that for me:)

[loucmachine]

I buy it and I can't play

It says ''GTX 470 not supported''

I just gave them 65$ YAY!!:o:confused:

[ERICKIM973]

I just can't play the game because either my Logitech Dual Action and MS X360 controllers don't work.

[GrimCW]

I'm not saying anything about wanting to play the same game on both machines.

Steam locks down the use of my whole library, to one machine at a time. So, for example, if my girlfriend wants to play Just Cause 2 on the HTPC I am unable to play CODMW2 on my main PC.

Impulse allows this by the way.

heres a tip... "offline mode"

learn it, use it, love it.

non-Steam works games can still use MP with this also.

as for problems.. how long ago were these? can't say i've EVER had an issue with offline mode.
just loadup the game post download/install, let it update itself that one time, then go offline mode and it works fine.
forget that pre-offline load though and yeh, problems ahoy.

[waffylesyay]

I buy it and I can't play

It says ''GTX 470 not supported''

I just gave them 65$ YAY!!:o:confused:

Remove "systemdetection.dll" from the installation folder:
programfiles/steam/steamapps/common/splinter cell conviction/system

Removing that .dll will bypass the detection temporarily!

[SKiLLY2]

I had this huge reply here about why you non-DRM Hammer Legion Members had bought the game when you knew about the problems with the DRM and that the game had said DRM. I deleted it. I found a much better way to get my point across. And it's a very simple short sentence and it is at the root of all these problems.

"There would be no need for a DRM this extreme, or any DRM at all, if people would just cough up the money that developers deserve for making their games."

Thank you for your time :)

How delusional are you?

Please tell me why Ubisoft "deserve" business when they:

A) Release the PC version later than consoles.
B) Charge the same $60 even though there are no insertion fees (or whatever it is that consoles has)
C) Port the game over poorly.
D) Ask $60 for a small amount of playtime.
E) Treat their paying customers like criminals.

In order for a developer to deserve money, they firstly need to offer a good product. Asking $60 for a half-assed product that's late and includes useless DRM is not deserving of ones business.

Why do you think Valve is so successful? They respect their customers, they release games on the PC and 360 on the same day, they charge $50 ($45 if you pre-purchase) for new releases, they don't require you to have a constant connection to play a SINGLEPLAYER game, they make games properly and don't port them over, and their titles have a lot of replay value (css, cs, L4D, L4D2, TF2, DOD:S etc.) or are priced correctly in terms of their length (ep1 was about 6 hours long and was $20 - Conviction's singleplayer is 5 hours long and costs 3 times as much. $40 for a 5 hour (possibly less) co-op campaign is a lot of money)

Valve deserves the business and that's exactly what they get.

[andym666]

Settlers 7 was DRM and I believe that wasn't even hack yet or pirated by still today.

but most people going to say "but thats settlers 7 who cares!" hahaha

so if the DRM keeps pirates away from this game, then thats good for ubisoft.

only a certain few amounts might be having problem, but you shouldn't just start bashing on a game where other players can play it.

settlers 7 is cracked...was cracked one week ago by Razor1911. So only one left is conviction.

worse than the actual protection not working is the fact that at least for AC2 the protection had to be worked around with an emulator...and that means pirates have access to latest updates DIRECTLY FROM UBISOFT (after which they just run the emulator and play uninterrupted).
I really don't know if i wanna buy this or not... buy ... don't buy...omg!

[Mr.Bigtime]

even BC2 had issues guys..chill..

[GrimCW]

even BC2 had issues guys..chill..

every game has issues.
but only these particular ones with invasive DRM have certain issues.

its why starforce was dropped, and Securom changed its newer versions, as well as what keeps TAGES from becoming more popular

[SKiLLY2]

even BC2 had issues guys..chill..

True but BC2 had about 20,000+ players playing at the same time on steam during it's first week of release. This game has so far peaked at 1250 or so. The amount of complaints (and fewer players than BC2) and varying problems, it's obvious this game was badly made.