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Steedy94
05-19-2010, 06:41 AM
For god sake i cant edit the sernorios after 5 mins in the world editor it goes to desktop saying something bad happened its been going on for about 3 weeks now and im getting abit pissed off how can i fix it or is it something worng with the game, ive reinstalled the content ran it and still the same grrrrrrrrrr is the finally option to uninstall and reinstall the game. Any help would be good
cheers

Toripony
05-19-2010, 06:59 AM
Uhhhmmmmm.... this isn't my area of expertise and I hate to bring bad news but from what I hear, this is one of currently known issues with RW. I'm not sure of its official status in the RSC shop but if you talk to a couple of the scenario writers, they can maybe help you more. Also, try searching the forums at UKTrainsim.com for tips. I think the current workaround is to save your work after every few steps and restart the game every few minutes. Also, I think some people have more trouble than others.... maybe there's a configuration solution that could help. Only the scenario editor seems to have this problem; I can work for hours in the route editing side with no problems.

Tori

RSDevTeam
05-19-2010, 07:11 AM
Hiya,

We are not aware of any such issue in RailWorks, let alone it being considered a common problem. The official development team as well as countless 3rd party and community developers regularly use RailWorks in various modes and editors for many hours without such an issue occurring.

If a problem is being suffered, please contact support@railsimulator.com with as much information about the issue and its symptoms.

Regards

Theblob76
05-19-2010, 07:22 AM
Hi, the RW's scenario editor and world editor are quite robust, they shouldn't crash often at all.

elof_ffs
05-19-2010, 08:10 AM
I haven't got as far as messing with scenario's yet, I spend most of my time fiddling about route editing,
But one thing i've noticed other other folks say on the forums is work in windowed mode instead of full screen, maybe that will be of some help to you.

kevin

arizonachris
05-19-2010, 08:22 AM
Steedy, what I would suggest. Copy the contents of your "steamapps" folder to another spot on your hard drive (I am presuming you bought the game from Steam) then uninstall and reinstall Steam. I had to do that a few months back and finally Rail Works ran. Once you have reinstalled Steam, you can copy and paste that "steamapps" folder back and have all your games back again without having to download for hours and hours.

Also, make sure to verify the game files. Click on the Steam icon in the tool bar. Click on Libraries. Right click on the game, choose Properties> Local Files tab> Verify.

matthewt1501
05-19-2010, 09:09 AM
Hiya,

If a problem is being suffered, please contact support@railsimulator.com with as much information about the issue and its symptoms.

Regards


And it goes straight in the bin!

Don't waste your typing fingers, Emails never get answered.

Symrustar
05-19-2010, 10:07 AM
Hi,
I find I get the dreaded "Ping" Something bad has happend when saving an edited scenario. This usually happens after a couple of saves into a session so what I now do is after each save, Exit the editor and then reload the scenario. Only happens now if I do something wrong with the editor.

E.g. If you try to get a train (consist) to appear from a portal, 1 will work but when I try to add a second ......"Ping".. This is a known problem and portals should only be useed for trains to Exit a scenario for now till they change it. If they ever do.

Steedy94
05-19-2010, 12:36 PM
just moveing around in the world editor just makes the ping sound ♥♥♥ up and says something bad has happened grrrrrrrrr spent all day trying to fix with no success :(

lonewolfdon
05-19-2010, 12:47 PM
Steedy, what's your system's specs? For example, if you don't have sufficient RAM or a decent graphics card, those type of problems you're having may pop up.

Also make sure other background programs (anti-virus, messengers, etc..) are close or disabled before launching RailWorks as some programs might cause conflicts.

Run a defrag of your hard-drive(s). Adjusting your graphic card's setting for RailWorks and RailWorks graphic options may yield better results.

Do a full scan of your computer for any viruses or malware that could be lurking.

Make sure your computer is clean, well ventilated and cool, as overheating could possibly cause problems and RailWorks seems to be a CPU and Graphic intensive program.

These are just a few general suggestions you may want to consider looking into.

When I work with making a route or scenario, I have gotten into the habit of using F2 to save often (usually within every few minutes) after making changes. RailWorks does sometimes crash on me while I'm in the editor (but not too often), still if it does crash I won't have lost much work because I save often.

Good luck.

styckx
05-19-2010, 01:38 PM
And it goes straight in the bin!

Don't waste your typing fingers, Emails never get answered.

Not true.

matthewt1501
05-19-2010, 03:27 PM
Not true.

Well they never replied to me.. not once... so, yeah.. it is!

Toripony
05-19-2010, 04:43 PM
Ya know.... I spend way too much time trying to prove things to RSC. After explaining the reasons behind my post, I tried out my scenario editor for the first time in quite a while... of course it worked fine. I also can't find the posts I remember reading about this but then I can never find anything using a search engine. It's me.... it's my luck!

Bottom line, Steedy, you're not the only one to have this problem. I had it too. I think Kevin recalled something that you should try and I also seem to remember someone saying they changed their RW Screen Resolution setting.

Tori

Theblob76
05-19-2010, 05:30 PM
And it goes straight in the bin!

Don't waste your typing fingers, Emails never get answered.

Not for me, I have had every Email answered so far.

matthewt1501
05-19-2010, 09:46 PM
Oh well, maybe they just bin mine then, despite all 6 of them being well mannered, polite, and genuine questions.

:( Thanks RW!

arizonachris
05-20-2010, 12:44 AM
Oh well, maybe they just bin mine then, despite all 6 of them being well mannered, polite, and genuine questions.

:( Thanks RW!

Yeah, Matt, you are a renegade and they just don't like you. :D

Seedy, did you try my suggestions?

Steedy94
05-20-2010, 05:02 AM
the graphics card is new with the computer which i only had last year, the game runs smoothly when u play all the acts not a problem at all its just when i edit anything :/

rgarber
05-20-2010, 06:00 AM
@Steedy94, unfortunately I have no answers to your Scenario editing problem either but I got some ideas. Two things I would try and not because I know they'll work. First is, go into Windowed mode if you haven't and with a fresh start stay in the scenario editor and save after doing nothing. Don't touch a thing. Just save. Well you might have to touch something now that I think about it. The second time you do this, touch something a few times and it should crash. I'm just thinking you said you heard a ping, and I'm wondering if that's a Windows issue. I've think I've seen this happen where Windows or Railworks loses focus and maybe forgets which app I'm in? You might want to close out your anti-virus and the Railworks wrapper as well just to minimize the number of apps your running at the same time.


Another thing is when I was doing my second batch of scenarios for Fort Kent I ... *looks around to see if RSC is looking...*, I would be bad about keeping Railworks open for a long time. And I got the impression the longer you run Railworks scenario editor, it would break down and/or start lying to me. See what short bursts of working in the scenario editor (like no more than an hour's work) and see if that helps.

To me that ping is suspicious as I don't know of any ping sound in Railworks. Sounds like the ping you get when you make a wrong selection.

Maybe?

Rich

Steedy94
05-20-2010, 10:08 AM
i think its a windows issue or railworks i tryed wat you said and it pings and says something bad has happened and faile to save dump file 106.7a (error31) hmmm havent got a clue

Toripony
05-20-2010, 10:50 AM
i think its a windows issue or railworks i tryed wat you said and it pings and says something bad has happened and faile to save dump file 106.7a (error31) hmmm havent got a clue

The ping is the Windows "Error" sound.... same ping you'd get if MSOffice crashed. That's not a clue.

While we're all scratching our butts though, you should save that dump file and send it along with a help request email to RSC. Even if they don't reply, they do look into these things watching for trends of problems. Right now though, it seems like you're the only one having this problem, though as I previously stated, there are others who had it, too, including me.

Tori

Steedy94
05-20-2010, 10:56 AM
Pain in the butt :( ive uninstalled it wiped my drive clean and reinstalled it went thru everything and it still happens saying something bad happened and it fails to save the dump file does anyone know wat error 31 means

rgarber
05-20-2010, 12:38 PM
What I was thinking with the ping is that it would give him some idea where the trouble might be coming from. I've played a lot of computer games for a lot years and hearing the ping is very unusual for a game crash. It might be he's got some hidden TSR type thing interfering with his mouse/keyboard buffer at the moment he goes to save which is a separate dialogue than the main editing screen.

Rich

lonewolfdon
05-20-2010, 12:53 PM
The "Ping" is typical of RailWorks when getting a "Something bad has happened" when in full-screen mode. Well, at least on my computer. :P
Though it doesn't happen often.

gaarmstrong318
05-20-2010, 12:59 PM
ok im getting the same errors, this is getting beyond a joke now. i have quite a few DLC's i like to edit the senarios to use new editions and make my own. it just crashes with out warning or reason. it occurs when placing items, moving them, driving them, shunting them, loading the senarios, exiting. it not just DLC that are a problem its the basic stock as well. there are 3 senarios i cant even use as they crash the game as it loads. these are, templecombe in summer, york in winter, and oxford in autumn. the later two have very few extra items. templecombe was my testing ground as it were.

i have tried to email RSDEVTEAM but i have had no reply even with the error reports.

oh and i all the DLC i have i have paid for and are legit so thats not the issue.

Steedy94
05-20-2010, 01:09 PM
ok im getting the same errors, this is getting beyond a joke now. i have quite a few DLC's i like to edit the senarios to use new editions and make my own. it just crashes with out warning or reason. it occurs when placing items, moving them, driving them, shunting them, loading the senarios, exiting. it not just DLC that are a problem its the basic stock as well. there are 3 senarios i cant even use as they crash the game as it loads. these are, templecombe in summer, york in winter, and oxford in autumn. the later two have very few extra items. templecombe was my testing ground as it were.

i have tried to email RSDEVTEAM but i have had no reply even with the error reports.

oh and i all the DLC i have i have paid for and are legit so thats not the issue.

Yh your haveing the same problem as me mate :(

Toripony
05-20-2010, 02:02 PM
I checked with a friend that writes scenarios a lot.....


Quote:
Originally Posted by Evictoria
Tom, if my memory hasn't totally vaporized, I seem to remember a time a couple/few months back when the RW Scenerio Editor would crash after every few clicks/steps/maneuvers. Mine did it too for a while... we had to click a few steps, save, a few clicks, save.... even had to stop and restart the game every couple of minutes to keep it from CTD'ing.

Someone over on the Steam forum is having this trouble now and for the life of me I can't find a single post about it or what was ever done to solve it. Did an update fix it? I remember someone saying running it in window mode would fix it????

Do you remember this? Is there anything I can tell this dude that might help him?

Thanks,
Tori

Hi, Tori! I haven't had problems that severe, although I do find that sometimes (not always) the editor just freezes and RW crashes. I've never figured out what causes this. Sometimes I can work for quite a long time, making changes and saving now and then; other times, usually when I have forgotten to save, the editor "burns out" after just a few minutes. I've come up with various theories, including the possibility that my computer starts doing something else in the background, but I cannot really prove any of them, so I just put up with these quirks. I seem to remember that the RS editor behaved the same way. Sorry I cannot be more helpful.

Tom

Toripony
05-20-2010, 02:05 PM
The "Ping" is typical of RailWorks when getting a "Something bad has happened" when in full-screen mode. Well, at least on my computer. :P
Though it doesn't happen often.

Same here.

Toripony
05-20-2010, 02:09 PM
I've played a lot of computer games for a lot years and hearing the ping is very unusual for a game crash.
Rich

Yea, I thought the same thing! I remember Duke Nukem doing that, lol. RW didn't ping in the begginning either; didn't that start when the "something bad happened" dialog showed up?

Tori

rgarber
05-20-2010, 03:11 PM
As luck would have it the update happened after I finished up my 16 scenarios for the Fort Kent route. But I did have to go through every scenario the next day after the update and check them and I had to run them. But that's not editing except the ones that had the new and improved Broken Consists error. I think you are right in that this seems new. I also run in Windowed mode, I never run in full screen mode. It's my impression that more people have problems in Full Screen mode than Windowed mode. I have to run in Windowed mode because the editor won't quit without saving in Full Screen mode. Sorry I can't be of much help on this, I was just guessing that its odd to hear the Windows ping in a game. It's so strange because I ran Railworks probably for no less than six hours today working on a steel mill area (see http://railworksamerica.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=689) and not a lick of trouble. I had to do some free roam scenario editing too and no trouble. But if I was the original poster and couldn't save without crashing, I'd be going nuts too.

Rich

StarTux
05-20-2010, 05:05 PM
And it goes straight in the bin!

Don't waste your typing fingers, Emails never get answered.

Mine have, maybe after a couple of days, but nevertheless they have been answered.

Just quick word; its always a good idea in my opinion to also post to places like this, or uktrainsim as someone else may have had the exact same issue, or a similar enough one to get you working on a fix. I'm throwing this one out there for those who are newer to this (hundreds of eyes on forums vs a many less at a company).

gaarmstrong318
05-21-2010, 12:47 AM
ok the problem is now to the point that i can no longer do anything in game.... at all. ive set graphics to min, turned off AA and i can get into a route but i cant do anything at all it'll crash if i select anything, try to move the train, or even look around for more than 30 seconds. this happens in windowed mode in full screen. does anyone have anything like these problems cause im getting so fed up of it now.

rgarber
05-21-2010, 05:33 AM
I would walk away from it for a bit. When something gets that frustrating I'd rather be at peace than frustrated. BTW, what OS are you using?

arizonachris
05-21-2010, 09:57 AM
gaarmstrong, what I would recommend, as this fixed the "something bad has happened" error in the past, (I am presuming you have this sim thru Steam and not a CD) copy the "steamapps" folder to another spot on the hard drive. Uninstall then reinstall Steam. Copy that folder back into Steam.

I don't do any editing, I'm just a driver, so I'm not sure what else to suggest.

TomPallen
05-21-2010, 01:15 PM
And it goes straight in the bin!

Don't waste your typing fingers, Emails never get answered.

I disagree very strongly! Every message I have sent to RS support has been answered. Not in the speed of light, mind you, but not at a turtle's pace either. Moreover, their replies have been informative or helpful, or even both. I am thoroughly satisfied with their service.

Tom Pallen

gaarmstrong318
05-21-2010, 01:37 PM
My system specs are Vista-64bit service pack 2, 780i motherboard, Q6600 running at 3.2GHZ. 2X 8800GTX graphics cards in SLI, 4 gb of RAM @800mhz, and 2tb of HDD storage. And i have uninstalled and installed it again and same issue. it started after some updates and every update since has made the issue worse it seems. this is stupid

zm4r
05-21-2010, 01:38 PM
There was a time that emails didn't get answered, maybe that has changed now. It looks like it....

Gaarmstrong I just know vistax64 is not the problem.
I'm also using 800mhz ram but 8gb maybe it's a bit overkill but i'm sure Rw in combination with vista and some programs running in the background likes it.
I'm using only one 8800 GTS
2 things are worrying me the quad core and the SLI.
That's maybe because I don't have any experience with it.
Just make sure that every driver is up to date.
For the SLI try the Nvidia forum,or Railworks support. Why not? It looks like they are answering now. Also don't forget the chipset drivers and bios.Just to be sure post your DEP settings.


Grtz
Erik

arizonachris
05-21-2010, 01:42 PM
I have read that some users of Rail Works had to either disable the second video card or physically remove it.

Toripony
05-22-2010, 02:19 AM
Man, I feel that frustration. :( A night's sleep helped me find my problem. Take it from an old pc troubleshooter, if you get your head too far into the problem, you can no longer see around it. You gotta back out, take a break and get your objective perspective back. Cool?

How long had your setup run ok before you started editing routes/scenarios and run into this problem? Are you saying that now, with a fresh install of RW from Steam with NO alterations, that you can't even run the game in Play mode? If so, obviously you've changed something in your rig setup that is now making things even worse. Backtrack.

By this time in the troubleshooting process, I would have changed a dozen things trying to find the problem. If the problems have gotten worse, you'll probably never find your solution from this point; ya gotta get back to where you started. Can you review your pc config now to ensure everything is set back to where it was before this all started? Get back to where you were at the beginning of this thread; then, look for another path to pursue.

Regards,
Tori
P.S. Not that you probably don't know all this already.... I'm just trying to smooth the frustration.... help clear your thinking

zm4r
05-22-2010, 04:37 AM
That's very good advice Tori is giving.
I want to add that when RW is randomly crashing or certainly when you select something, I think this is caused by PhysX drivers.(Bad installed)

Grtz
Erik

StarTux
05-22-2010, 08:09 AM
Oh well, maybe they just bin mine then, despite all 6 of them being well mannered, polite, and genuine questions.

:( Thanks RW!

Just a thought, check your spam folders at your end and if your ISP has webmail access check that too as some also have spam filters there too (happened to me awhile ago).

gaarmstrong318
05-22-2010, 01:17 PM
ok guys thanks for the update. i've completely reinstalled Railworks, updated every drivers, spoke to nvidia about the SLI, even disabled it. no go, i can't do anything in game anymore. this is completely rediculous, i've spent alot on this game not only time but money too. also it appears to be the updates that are screwing the game over. as the game had more and more crashes as time went on. oh and to prove the point at how bad the game is. go to newcastle and york route, select darlington in summer, and after 5 mins of loading i click on the deltic... crash.... the only trains in the route are the HST and the "47" its not even DLC for crying out loud!

zm4r
05-22-2010, 02:53 PM
free roam Darlington in summer

Loaded in 30sec

engines in scenario Class 55
BR large logo Class 47
Class 43 HST
Class 47

I can click on them as much as I like, no crash.
I'm sorry, I still think there's something wrong with your PhysX drivers. Did you install them separately? That's not needed anymore, they are included in the graphics drivers. The loading time of course is much to long with your system specs.
I hope it helps.

Grtz
Erik

Toripony
05-22-2010, 09:54 PM
free roam Darlington in summer

Loaded in 30sec

engines in scenario Class 55
BR large logo Class 47
Class 43 HST
Class 47

I can click on them as much as I like, no crash.
I'm sorry, I still think there's something wrong with your PhysX drivers. Did you install them separately? That's not needed anymore, they are included in the graphics drivers. The loading time of course is much to long with your system specs.
I hope it helps.

Grtz
Erik

Erik, I think you're onto something. G-strong does keep mentioning "clicking on" things and then it crashes. There are different versions of PhysX out there but I've never messed with that stuff.

Tori

Theblob76
05-22-2010, 10:52 PM
Hi, if the sim crashes every time you click on a loco, I think replacing/reinstalling your PhysX software is your best bet.

zm4r
05-23-2010, 01:00 AM
I'm just asking you to check out with driver sweeper to see if there are still left overs of the ageia PhysX drivers.
If there are, remove them.
They are not needed with Nvidia starting the 8000 series.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/Guru3D---Driver-Sweeper-(Setup)-download-1655.html

Grtz
Erik

gaarmstrong318
05-23-2010, 03:46 AM
ok guys thanks for the help so far. i have made some progress. i have removed the AEGIA rubbish and updated all drivers i can. it now loads faster and i can use the game for a few mins. but it still has problems. any further advice would be helpful

zm4r
05-23-2010, 04:31 AM
Many games require updated versions of other software for your computer. Commonly updated programs are listed below:
• Microsoft DirectX - DirectX 9.0c release: 9/16/2009
• Microsoft Visual C++ for 32-bit machines - Visual C++ release: 9/16/2008
o Please install the 32-bit version on 64-bit systems as well. It has been known to correct certain issues
• Microsoft Visual C++ for 64-bit machines - Visual C++ release: 8/9/2008

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=333325FD-AE52-4E35-B531-508D977D32A6&displaylang=en

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a5c84275-3b97-4ab7-a40d-3802b2af5fc2&displaylang=en

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=ba9257ca-337f-4b40-8c14-157cfdffee4e

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6416-EYDH-0477

Just remember two things English is not my native languish and am just trying to help

try to give more details.

Railworks v.?

Defragment your hard drive(s)!

Grtz
Erik

arizonachris
05-23-2010, 09:25 AM
I'm just asking you to check out with driver sweeper to see if there are still left overs of the ageia PhysX drivers.
If there are, remove them.
They are not needed with Nvidia starting the 8000 series.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/Guru3D---Driver-Sweeper-(Setup)-download-1655.html

Grtz
Erik

Yes, Erik is spot on. Any time I update drivers, I use Driver Sweeper. It gets all the bits and pieces left behind in the Windows Registry, which can and will cause issues. There is also another great program I use, REVO Uninstaller: http://download.cnet.com/Revo-Uninstaller/3000-2096_4-10687648.html it is miles above the standard Windows uninstaller. And, after all of that, run: http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?query=ccleaner&tag=srch%3Ba&searchtype=downloads&filterName=platform%3DWindows&filter=platform%3DWindows clean out all the junk you have acumilated on your PC.

Next is, did you back up/ copy the "steamapps" folder then reinstall the Steam client?

gaarmstrong318
05-23-2010, 10:53 AM
woohoo!!!!!!! i've got somewhere. its running better now. not sure why but its going better. no crashes while in game but a couple when loading which isn't a big deal thanks for all the help guys

zm4r
05-23-2010, 11:40 AM
Great, I like happy endings.:D
Crashes during loading are mostly caused by missing rolling stock , and bad sound drivers .
Rw tools is an excellent tool for checking scenarios and routes for missing items.

http://www.rstools.info/

A little footnote: 64 bit OS users must use Revo Uninstaller Pro for full native support.

And this one is not free am afraid.


Erik

Theblob76
05-23-2010, 12:20 PM
And this one is not free am afraid.

But it costs as much as you want it to. (Except free)

Toripony
05-26-2010, 07:25 AM
Q: When I click on a train, RailWorks freezes or returns to the desktop. How can I solve this?
A: If RailWorks? freezes or returns to the desktop when you click on a train in any Free Roam or Standard Scenario, this indicates that the physics system is not properly installed.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To rectify this problem, navigate to this folder:
C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\railworks\Install

Within this folder is PhysX_6.10.25_SystemSoftware.exe

Run this setup to re-install PhysX >> the physics system used by RailWorks?.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
nVidia Users
For certain nVidia Graphics cards, please see the official nVidia Website for specific PhysX drivers and software.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_9.09.0428_whql.html

zm4r
05-26-2010, 10:32 AM
A: If RailWorks? freezes or returns to the desktop when you click on a train in any Free Roam or Standard Scenario, this indicates that the physics system is not properly installed.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To rectify this problem, navigate to this folder:
C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\railworks\Install

Within this folder is PhysX_6.10.25_SystemSoftware.exe

Run this setup to re-install PhysX >> the physics system used by RailWorks?.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
nVidia Users
For certain nVidia Graphics cards, please see the official nVidia Website for specific PhysX drivers and software.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_9.09.0428_whql.html[/QUOTE]

I'm going to try to clarify this.

The Ageia PhysX 6.10.25 drivers are only for Ageia PhysX processors.
If I remember it well, they are automaticaly installed when you start the install Railworks from the DVD. In the early days Steam did install them too. Now not anymore.
In the mean time Nvidia bought Ageia. They are no longer producing Ageia PhysX processors anymore. Ageia is dead.
The PhysX drivers for the Nvidia users, starting from the 8000 series, are now included in the graphics drivers they download and istall. There is no need anymore for a separate install.
My advice to avoid trouble, Nvidia users, remove the Ageia drivers as soon as possible. They are in conflict with the Nvidia drivers.

I'm going to try to post a few links, but if you want to know more about it, please try the Nvidia website or try Google.

The wiki is not very helpfull with writing "certain" Nvidia users. Starting from the 8000 series, they are included in the graphics drivers and again no separate install is needed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhysX

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ageia-physx-physics-hardware-acceleration-gpu,10358.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_faq.html

I hope I don't need to explain what happens if you install Ageia drivers and Nvidia PhysX drivers.



Grtz
Erik

Toripony
05-26-2010, 12:22 PM
I'm going to try to clarify this.

The Ageia PhysX 6.10.25 drivers are only for Ageia PhysX processors.
If I remember it well, they are automaticaly installed when you start the install Railworks from the DVD. In the early days Steam did install them too. Now not anymore.
In the mean time Nvidia bought Ageia. They are no longer producing Ageia PhysX processors anymore. Ageia is dead.
The PhysX drivers for the Nvidia users, starting from the 8000 series, are now included in the graphics drivers they download and istall. There is no need anymore for a separate install.
My advice to avoid trouble, Nvidia users, remove the Ageia drivers as soon as possible. They are in conflict with the Nvidia drivers.
........SNIP

Grtz
Erik[/QUOTE]

Hmmm.... I uninstalled Ageia PhysX 6.10.25 from my laptop; RW NO longer launches. Upgraded Nvidia drivers for my 8400M; 134MB download does NOT include PhysX. Am downloading PhysX 9.09.0428 now; it requires installation prior to version 8 to be present. Am reinstalling PhyX 6.10.25 from Steam.

So... what ELSE do you recommend, Erik? :rolleyes:

Tori

zm4r
05-26-2010, 01:15 PM
A: If RailWorks? freezes or returns to the desktop when you click on a train in any Free Roam or Standard Scenario, this indicates that the physics system is not properly installed.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To rectify this problem, navigate to this folder:
C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\railworks\Install

Within this folder is PhysX_6.10.25_SystemSoftware.exe

Run this setup to re-install PhysX >> the physics system used by RailWorks?.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
nVidia Users
For certain nVidia Graphics cards, please see the official nVidia Website for specific PhysX drivers and software.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_9.09.0428_whql.html

I did say:
1.I'm going to try to clarify this.

2. I'm going to try to post a few links, but if you want to know more about it, please try the Nvidia website or try Google.

My mistake, it's only starting from 8600 not 8000series

Sorry, I apologize for this, but all the rest is true.

See link now for all supported PhysX GPU's.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_gpus.html

If the graphic drivers not include the Nvidia PhysX drivers your GPU is automaticaly not supported.

I know my English is not good enough, and sorry it was not clear enough.

Just trying to help.

The real problem is that you install both PhysX drivers on your PC. (Nvidia + Ageia)

I just know it happens.

No need to be sarcastic about this. When someone gives me free advice, and I try it out and it doesn't work, I take full responsability for it.When I'm buying things or paying for the advice that's another story .

Look at my installed programs. I don't see Ageia drivers anymore

http://picasaweb.google.be/martineleers/Erik#5475682082415993938

Grtz
Erik

Toripony
05-26-2010, 02:02 PM
Wellllllll.... maybe I spoke too soon. I now have Nvidia PhyX, too. The Ageia is gone and my Nvidia control panel reports PhyX 9.10.0129 installed. Railworks is working..... mayyyybeeee a little better than before. If so the difference is subtle but I've peaked this laptop already. Most notable is that in my usual FPS test, I achieved a 30+fps with my RW graphics all set to high! Never did that before.

Erik, I take back my sarcasm and offer my sincere apologies. Stability of RW on this new setup will take time to prove, but initially, I like what I see. I'm not sure, but it seemed like the B-SB route loaded quicker than usual (Prolly just hopeful thinking, lol).

Thanks for the heads up on the technicalities of this subject. I've looked into it before in my peaking efforts but didn't get anything to work back then. The drivers I have now were just released this month.

Tori

zm4r
05-26-2010, 02:23 PM
I'm just glad it works now. That's the most important thing.
I always like happy endings.:D
Just keep an eye on those drivers. They are almost improving every month now.

Grtz
Erik

Steedy94
06-01-2010, 11:12 AM
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr it still doing the ping noise in the editor im getting abit pissed off now i can only play the scenarios which ive done to death. This needs tobe sorted or im going to ask for my money back because ive spent alot on these DLC's so come on people at railsim, is there a fix or not.

gaarmstrong318
07-29-2010, 02:01 PM
The bloody problem is back again!!!!!!! ARGH!!!!!!! all my drivers are up to date, the physics drivers are gone, game cache is good, defraged the hard drive. could it be a limit on the rolling stock or using certain ones that are buggy?

cbf36
07-29-2010, 05:26 PM
And it goes straight in the bin!

Don't waste your typing fingers, Emails never get answered.

Sorry to see that. My inquiries have been answered. Sometime I didn't like the answer, but they were all answered. Cheers; Chuck F.