FEAR 1 warning - 17GB download

[spyrochaete]

A small word of warning to those considering buying FEAR 1. It's bundled with all 3 expansions and it seems you have to download all the content, even if you deselect the expansions. The total download size is 17GB.

I was hoping to play sooner by choosing the smallest download possible, but unfortunately the Steam version isn't designed that way. If your ISP imposes a restrictive download cap you might want to wait until the end of the month to see whether you can afford to download this behemoth (or should I say monolith?).

[padliuz]

Im not dloading it until they fix it, I dont think they will so I might just wiil.

[Chapa9dj]

No cap for me but not the best connection either.
I'll download as soon as i get home :D.

[Askjosh]

Fortunately I don't have a cap on how much I can download. In fact I downloaded about 40 GB of fan subbed anime in one 24 hour period :-)

I have 10 MB down and 1 MB up. So if I purchase it now and start the download when I get home in two hours, it should be ready for me to play when i wake up tomorrow morning :-)

[Avalon]

This needs to be fixed. I doubt anyone wants to download the horrible expansions. They were also tossed from the story cannon.

[Lynx]

This needs to be fixed. I doubt anyone wants to download the horrible expansions. They were also tossed from the story cannon.

Actually, Extraction Point is pretty good.

[motrin]

i was considering getting this.. but 17GB is tOO much for my slow ♥♥♥ internet!! i'l being playing by this time next year..

[velvetmeds]

This needs to be fixed. I doubt anyone wants to download the horrible expansions. They were also tossed from the story cannon.

i doubt anyone does NOT want to download them.

[DrippingCheese]

F.E.A.R alone is 16600 MB, NOT GB!

16600 MB = 1.66 GB (give or take).

[soldussnaku]

I too agree with the opinion that extraction point was rather good, and tbh, you get so much game for such a small price, I don't mind the fact that you have to install the expansions with the game.

It's not like we are paying a hefty price to begin with.

[glasseye67]

This sort of thing happens. There are 2 threads going about the same thing.

The following is what I have on my hard drives for the F.E.A.R. games.

6.92 GBs F.E.A.R. And Extraction Point. Extraction Point for me is in the F.E.A.R. folder. My extraction point folder is 1.74 Gigs.

7.23 GBs Perseus Mandate.

3.46 GBs F.E.A.R. Combat. http://projectorigin.warnerbros.com/fearcombat/main

F.E.A.R. Combat was released as a separate stand-alone game that is/was free to download.

Gratz again guys on getting the original games.

[AnubisArc999]

First people beg for FEAR 1 to come to Steam, then people complain that it's too big in file size and that all 3 games come together for ONLY $10!

Seriously?

Go buy a new hard drive if you are that hard up.

[proffbeer]

F.E.A.R alone is 16600 MB, NOT GB!

16600 MB = 1.66 GB (give or take).

1000 Mb = 1 Gb

16600 Mb = 16.6 Gb

Thats the definition of Gigabyte that most of the world uses. Those of you that like to be technical a Gb is actually 1024 Mb so the game is 16.21 Gb in size

[glasseye67]

First people beg for FEAR 1 to come to Steam, then people complain that it's too big in file size and that all 3 games come together for ONLY $10!

Seriously?

Go buy a new hard drive if you are that hard up.

Externals are cheap these days. Over 1 TBs under $100.00?!

[Spirit5]

I don't think it's lack of hard drive space which is the problem, I think what people are talking about is that the average user doesn't have a T1 or better connection, so download speeds are low even for quote un quote "high speed" internet (DSL or Cable). Many subdivisions do not have fiber-optic cables yet which would allow for a T1 or above connection.,,just too expensive. So 16 GB would take a few days (or one whole day) to download.

[stinkfinger]

I don't think it's lack of hard drive space which is the problem, I think what people are talking about is that the average user doesn't have a T1 or better connection, so download speeds are low even for quote un quote "high speed" internet (DSL or Cable). Many subdivisions do not have fiber-optic cables yet which would allow for a T1 or above connection.,,just too expensive. So 16 GB would take a few days (or one whole day) to download.

Sucks living in the 'burbs... but I'm sure it's slow everywhere especially since they just released it on Steam.

[MADDOGGE]

This needs to be fixed. I doubt anyone wants to download the horrible expansions. They were also tossed from the story cannon.Speak for yourself. I happen to like the expansions better than FEAR 2.:p Also Extraction Point is almost as good as the original imo.



I have 8 meg uncapped but it's saying 9 hours so I won't be playing till tomorrow anyway. Now I can uninstall my retails and pack my discs away safe and sound.

[Selfdestructive]

i agree that ppl shout stop ♥♥♥♥♥ing, i mean hell we FINALLY get the damn game on steam. hell its not even the biggest game here.

anyone got GTAIV? 17gb, anyone got SW:the Force unleashed? thats 23GB!!! twenty three!!! and thats just one game with no expansions or anything.

serioulsy guys this is a AAA game at $9.99, go ♥♥♥♥♥ to your ISP if you got download caps seems they think ppl only use internet to read webpages :confused:

[Chapa9dj]

First people beg for FEAR 1 to come to Steam, then people complain that it's too big in file size and that all 3 games come together for ONLY $10!

Seriously?
.

I totally agree with you.
I bet people would complain if this games wa in a free weekend.

For me, i'm happy as hell now that F.E.A.R 1 arrived to Steam. I been waiting this for years :D.
Also. i'm used to big Downloads, i have many games that are over 15Gbs on Steam. ;)

[Trashcantoy]

download limits? wtf we dont live in the 90s anymore. is this from US providers?? shame on them!

[MADDOGGE]

download limits? wtf we dont live in the 90s anymore. is this from US providers?? shame on them!No, sadly it usually seems to be our friends from down under most often. :(:(:(

[Selfdestructive]

Infact im like 99% sure its the Aussies, them and even Canada have IPS with download caps. a friend of mine in Australia has a cap of...read and cry...10GB!! hell you can bust that cap in one week of youtube with their HD videos...

I usually like to have all my steam games installed so i can play them whenever the mood strikes, well i had to format back in december and in 2 weeks of january i had close to 400gig of steam downloads, pretty much the games i got on steam that i actually play (bought most of the publisher collections in the holiday sale but many games i dont play i got them because of the cheap price).

Point is if my Aussie friend were to do that he would take 40 months doing that :P
thats over a year and a half and not being able to do anything else online cept dl games lmao.

[eydeeb]

F.E.A.R alone is 16600 MB, NOT GB!

16600 MB = 1.66 GB (give or take).

Broken calculator?

[Attacker]

Games are only getting bigger and bigger in size.
Just download it over night and while your at work...
Think about it.. from midnight to 4pm in the afternoon it's 16 hours of download time. Remember to turn off your monitor.

[glasseye67]

Games are only getting bigger and bigger in size.
Just download it over night and while your at work...
Think about it.. from midnight to 4pm in the afternoon it's 16 hours of download time. Remember to turn off your monitor.

Attacker your post reminds me of the old days. I think it took me 4 days to download Wolfenstein 3d and Commander Keen with all its part, something like that.

[OJ191]

This needs to be fixed. I doubt anyone wants to download the horrible expansions. They were also tossed from the story cannon.

FEAR 1 was published by a different company.

FEAR 1: Monolith = developer, Sierra and Vivendi Universal I dunno which is publisher ( I think Vivendi)

Extraction Point: Monolith developed; Sierra and Timegate (I think timegate)

Perseus Mandate: Monolith Developed; Sierra and Timegate.

Monolith developed it. When FEAR 2 was made, Warner Bros disregarded the expansions from Canon because they wanted people to buy FEAR 2 as continuation from the story rather than the expansions.

[Washell]

Mostly wrong.

FEAR 1 and 2 were developed by Monolith. Extraction Point and Perseus Mandate were developed by Timegate studios.

FEAR was published by Sierra, which was owned by Vivendi Universal. Vivendi commissioned the 2 expansion packs at Timegate studios. Meanwhile, Monolith was bought by WB interactive and started development of a sequel. They were never involved with the expansion packs and they didn't fit their storyline/universe. As such, they ignored them and struck them from canon. During development WB bought the FEAR name back from Vivendi. WB now commissioned Day 1 Studios to develop FEAR 3, laying off most of the staff at Monolith.

[TheTingler]

... laying off most of the staff at Monolith.

You were right until that point. I don't believe any staff have been laid off at Monolith.

Have you got a link to where you heard that?

[seseorang]

1000 Mb = 1 Gb

16600 Mb = 16.6 Gb

Thats the definition of Gigabyte that most of the world uses. Those of you that like to be technical a Gb is actually 1024 Mb so the game is 16.21 Gb in size

1024Mb = 128MB
1000MB = ~0.98GB
1024MB = 1GB

16600Mb = 2.075GB
16,384MB = 16GB not 16.3GB

I see Steam advertises games when you install them as Mb - which the technically correct minded will notice these figures don't add up correctly as Mb = Megabit, instead of MB which IS for Megabyte

[Avalon]

First people beg for FEAR 1 to come to Steam, then people complain that it's too big in file size and that all 3 games come together for ONLY $10!

Seriously?

Go buy a new hard drive if you are that hard up.

I just don't want the expansions installed. They are awful and a waste of space. I don't think having an option is a such a big thing to ask for (considering it seems to give you one).

[AnubisArc999]

I don't think it's lack of hard drive space which is the problem, I think what people are talking about is that the average user doesn't have a T1 or better connection, so download speeds are low even for quote un quote "high speed" internet (DSL or Cable). Many subdivisions do not have fiber-optic cables yet which would allow for a T1 or above connection.,,just too expensive. So 16 GB would take a few days (or one whole day) to download.

I only have regular cable internet, and it only took like 3 hours?

I usually get 1.0mb/sec to 1.5mb/sec with Steam DLs.

[spyrochaete]

the average user doesn't have a T1 or better connection

T1 is only 1.5Mb/s or about 120KB/s. Most ADSL connections are about 5Mb/s and cable is way higher.

[nudge]

Anyone know how to install from the discs? I live in Australia and i only have a 10 gig cap :S i do download most of my games for free from steam though but it would be easier from the discs.

[Kazedarkwind]

just to let everyone know, its a single 17gb download, i paused both expansion pack downloads and only did the game itself, and then started the expansion packs after the game finished and they instantly finished. just to not discourage anyone who might of misunderstood

[Gorthauran]

This can't be right, how can a FPS from 2005 even be a 17GB download lol? The store page even says its 5GB, sure that's the main game so add maybe another 1-2GB or so for those expansions...7-8GB is a far cry from 17GB ,hell none of the current gen games are that big to download. Don't get me wrong I want to try this game for sure but my mind boggles at the download size, something seems amiss.

[CerberusDog]

It does seem quite odd. Trying to put the 4+ GB of retail files into Steam but it didn't really notice them. Did the Arch files change name from patch 1.00 to 1.08 ?

[Washell]

You were right until that point. I don't believe any staff have been laid off at Monolith.

Have you got a link to where you heard that?

Warner Bros. Interactive Entertaiment has made job cuts at three of its Seattle-area studios as part of a move to consolidate positions, the publisher confirmed to Gamasutra today.

News of the unspecified number of cuts at Kirkland-based Monolith Productions, Seattle-based Surreal Software, and Bothell-based Snowblind Studios first came via industry sources, as well as Twitter posts.

Source: Warner Studios Monolith, Snowblind, Surreal See Layoffs (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/26779/Warner_Studios_Monolith_Snowblind_Surreal_See_Layo ffs.php)

This can't be right, how can a FPS from 2005 even be a 17GB download lol? The store page even says its 5GB, sure that's the main game so add maybe another 1-2GB or so for those expansions...7-8GB is a far cry from 17GB ,hell none of the current gen games are that big to download. Don't get me wrong I want to try this game for sure but my mind boggles at the download size, something seems amiss.

It was ahead of its time and several of the current gen games are that big. From my own disk: Force Unleashed (29GB), Dragon Age (17.5GB), Empire Total War (17GB), The Witcher (15GB).

[Sitro]

I'd be happy to see expansions as seperate downloads so that I don't hit a download cap to play this game. It is like that in other games, so it is at least possible.

[arizonachris]

No, sadly it usually seems to be our friends from down under most often. :(:(:(

Oh, no, several USA ISP's now have download caps (I won't mention names, don't want to get a warning from the Moderators)

even with my high speed DSL (6Mb down) I only get 624K download speed from the Steam server. Oh well, it's well worth the wait. Start the download and in the morning after coffee, it's a done deal.

[storm20200]

1024Mb = 128MiB
1000MB (Megabyte) = 1GB (Gigabyte)
1024MiB (Mebibyte (Mega Binary Byte)) = 1GiB (Gibibyte (Giga Binary Byte))

16600Mb = 2075MiB
16,384MiB = 16GiB not 16.3GiB

I see Steam advertises games when you install them as Mb - which the technically correct minded will notice these figures don't add up correctly as Mb = Megabit, instead of MB which IS for Megabyte when it should be displayed as MiB for Mebibyte

Fixed for you, if you require information as to why this is correct then get googling.

[Stato_355]

Doesnt worry me, i have ADSL2 with node, and with steam watch, its unmetered, and it downloads at 1.3mb/s

[DrippingCheese]

1000 Mb = 1 Gb

16600 Mb = 16.6 Gb

Thats the definition of Gigabyte that most of the world uses. Those of you that like to be technical a Gb is actually 1024 Mb so the game is 16.21 Gb in size

I stand corrected. Remind me not try anything with numbers after a long day and a few pints!

[lordroy33]

All I know is I have 21.3 GB left on my "game drive" and it says it needs 16600MB out of my 21897MB of that drive. That says 17GB all day long... this has to be a glitch/issue... when did this game get so BIG?

[epode]

i posted this in another thread...and in other steamgames forums bust just incase, should help with DL quotas if u have the dvds:

for those of you with the retail FEAR, just copy paste all ur fear game files into the steamapps/fear folder (start DL to get directory location, pause DL, close steam, copy retail files over, start steam DLing again) its like verifying, it'll only DL the files which you dont have (if u have fear+ep, then just perseus mandate)

[arizonachris]

All I know is I have 21.3 GB left on my "game drive" and it says it needs 16600MB out of my 21897MB of that drive. That says 17GB all day long... this has to be a glitch/issue... when did this game get so BIG?

You have to keep in mind, the original game had at least 3 patches which were pretty substantial. Then the 2 expansions and maybe another patch or two in that mix. Adds up really quick.

[touriste]

WTF !?

Steam is downloading 17GB for each fear/extension???

http://i45.tinypic.com/11splcx.jpg

[The_Thing]

Installing the games separately would be okay.

But 17GB per section? Yikes!

[Stixsworld]

It is really just all 1 DL...god in total the it comes out to 17gigs for all games together...

People here are ♥♥♥♥♥ing too much about such an awsum game and an amazing deal and arent taking the time to do their research well enuff...

My god...its like you say you want to shoot a gun at a can...your dad gives you the gun...and all a sudden you piss your pants and give it back to him without firing a single round...

WTF? learn to not request for sumthing then ♥♥♥♥♥ out...and learn to do your research better before jumping to conclusions...

---Stixsmaster

[The_Thing]

Oh, from the screenshot, both EP and PM have the same space. So yeah, it's all just 17GB.

$10 won't kill me.

[XaresAssassin]

Almost finished downloading here.
About 98%
Been downloading for an hour. 1.5 Mb/s using Comcast internet.:)

[seseorang]

Fixed for you, if you require information as to why this is correct then get googling.

Lol - "Googling" is not a word... My original was to keep it simple. You added MiB which can confuse other people, I was correcting the term of what 1000MB really is. Short of 1GB

[Washell]

Lol - "Googling" is not a word...

You better tell the Oxford English and Merriam-Webster dictionaries that. They both added it in 2006. ;)

[Sgt Jigglebelly]

Actually, Extraction Point is pretty good.

i enjoyed the gameplay from both actually - story-wise, don't expect much, but still definitely creepy atmosphere

i'd actually rather play either of the expansions than that d*mned no good sequel... no joke!

[nahka]

It is added now? Because when I installed it there was boxes where I could untick/tick which games I want to install.

[AnubisArc999]

It should probably be noted that Perseus Mandate was created as a stand alone expansion because AT THE TIME of release, a total 17 gig might have been a big deal.

Now, it is the total 17 gigs because Perseus Mandate has to take up extra space due to having many textures, sound files, etc of FEAR 1 being on your HD twice because of how PM was made as a standalone.

However, if it is a big deal to you now, it means you should clear up your HD or get another HD.

[velvetmeds]

the pack is actually 10gb, not 16 or 17.

[spyrochaete]

the pack is actually 10gb, not 16 or 17.

Wrong. It's just under 17gb. I don't know where you got this idea.

[TempS]

I too agree with the opinion that extraction point was rather good, and tbh, you get so much game for such a small price, I don't mind the fact that you have to install the expansions with the game.

It's not like we are paying a hefty price to begin with.

this. and lets also point out that players have wanted the older FEAR here for quite some time. Steam/Warner Bros listened to them, and is giving us a great price too. Stupid to turn this deal down.

[lordroy33]

I think the deal is great, but under SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS it says:

Hard Drive: 5.0 GB free Hard Drive Space for installation; Additional hard drive space for a swap file and saved game files

Even with multiple patches and add-ons, the game should not jump from 5GB to 17GB. Patches are supposed to be there to fix bugs... and additional content in the game should not triple the space needed.

It is not a matter of how long it will take to download or how much space it takes, but I feel they should explain why it takes so much more than what is "Required".

-=R=-

[Ytsejam]

I think the deal is great, but under SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS it says:

Hard Drive: 5.0 GB free Hard Drive Space for installation; Additional hard drive space for a swap file and saved game files

Even with multiple patches and add-ons, the game should not jump from 5GB to 17GB. Patches are supposed to be there to fix bugs... and additional content in the game should not triple the space needed.

It is not a matter of how long it will take to download or how much space it takes, but I feel they should explain why it takes so much more than what is "Required".

-=R=-

The problem is system requirements on steam are for the game without the expansion packs.

I have Fear + Extraction Point retail and it takes almost 7gb of hard disk space.

I searched Perseus Mandate requirements and that expansion alone asks for 8gb of hard disk space (no idea why this thing is so big). It's more than Fear 1 and Extraction point combined. That's why the download is 17gb.

I wish there's a way to download the expansions separately since I already have the original and extraction point.

[velvetmeds]

Wrong. It's just under 17gb. I don't know where you got this idea.

no, that's the size of the folder. you only DOWNLOAD 10gb. after the download finishes, it extracts the extra 6GB which are probably duplicate files because of the expansions.

as far as bandwith concers go, it's only 10GB. 17GB is for the people worried about HDD

[The_Thing]

Solution:

1. Back up your installed games onto an external hard drive.

2. delete the content of those games on the C: Drive.

3. Install F.E.A.R. and the expansions.

4. Have fun!

Now stop ♥♥♥♥♥ing.

[spyrochaete]

no, that's the size of the folder. you only DOWNLOAD 10gb. after the download finishes, it extracts the extra 6GB which are probably duplicate files because of the expansions.

as far as bandwith concers go, it's only 10GB. 17GB is for the people worried about HDD

Oh really? Thanks for the correction. +rep

[zach88]

no, that's the size of the folder. you only DOWNLOAD 10gb. after the download finishes, it extracts the extra 6GB which are probably duplicate files because of the expansions.

as far as bandwith concers go, it's only 10GB. 17GB is for the people worried about HDD

Really? The download monitor from the new steam client displays download completion out of 17,059.5MB. Surely that would mean the final 6 gigs would fly to completion.

[MenaceInc]

I can confirm that the download for FEAR is actually 17GB and not 10GB as I previously attested. The "Total Downloaded" value at the top of the download section of the Steam client is buggered. Even when downloading GTA3, it said that I had downloaded 700MB or so when it was actually 1300MB. So, unfortunately it's 17GB to download. What's interesting though is that the backup of FEAR is about 10GB.... weird.

[Antichrist XVII]

First people beg for FEAR 1 to come to Steam, then people complain that it's too big in file size and that all 3 games come together for ONLY $10!

Are you really surprised? If it wasn't that they would complain about something else. People are also complaining about multiplayer for Perseus Mandate not working, and if they fix it, then they'll be complaining that it is dead.

[MADDOGGE]

Are you really surprised? If it wasn't that they would complain about something else. People are also complaining about multiplayer for Perseus Mandate not working, and if they fix it, then they'll be complaining that it is dead.Quoted for truth!!! People aren't happy unless they are complaining.:eek:

[MenaceInc]

Quoted for truth!!! People aren't happy unless they are complaining.:eek:

Then there's people who complain that they're complaining.
"I shouldn't have to do this!"

[arizonachris]

Then there's people who complain that they're complaining.
"I shouldn't have to do this!"

And then there are the ones that complain about the ones that complain about the ones complaining about complaining. :D:D:D:D:D

stop complaining, play the damn games. :)

[ozgeek]

It's not 17GB each. FEAR and it's expanisions only takes 17GB altogethher. I just finished downloading and played the first 30 minutes. And the fear folder in my steam folders takes up 16.6GB and Steam shows the expansions as completed downloaded. It's just steam thinks the expansions are seperate games but the downloader treats all 3 games as one but shows download info on each game. That's why you see all three fear games wehn you download one. Because it's downloading the whole lot.

[slayerking]

So 16 GB would take a few days (or one whole day) to download.

As a few other people have said it isn't a 17GB download it's 10GB the file size on the HDD is 17GB ;)

[Monkeyofcode]

Get a pro ISP that doesn't meter steam downloads.

Problem solved.

[JD2]

As a few other people have said it isn't a 17GB download it's 10GB the file size on the HDD is 17GB ;)
Those people are wrong. It's a 16.6GB download.

[slayerking]

Those people are wrong. It's a 16.6GB download.
No you are wrong, I downloaded it 2 days ago it's 10GB. I was really pissed about it being 17GB but I did it anyway and was happy as when it finished and said 10.06GB

[Stixsworld]

http://www.stixsworld.com/fear/FEARSize3.jpg

Now who here still says it aint 17GB?

Obviously...you didnt do your research...lol...

---Stixsmaster

[AntiFritz]

I think some people hear fail to understand what file compression is.

[slayerking]

http://www.stixsworld.com/fear/FEARSize3.jpg

Now who here still says it aint 17GB?

Obviously...you didnt do your research...lol...

---StixsmasterMaybe you should do some research! ever heard of compression and borrowing files? I take it not. The download is 10GB the uncompressed file size on disc is 17GB.

I think some people hear fail to understand what file compression is.Yeah

[Stixsworld]

Lol you guys act as tho FEAR comes in a gcf file like Valve's games which yes is a compressed file...

NO!

FEAR comes like any other game that Valve sells that is not theirs...uncompressed...and with a ncf file...

---Stixsmaster

[JD2]

No you are wrong, I downloaded it 2 days ago it's 10GB.
No, you are wrong. The value reported in the meter in the Steam client is wrong. The download is actually 16.6GB. See Post #65 above.

[slayerking]

No, you are wrong. The value reported in the meter in the Steam client is wrong. The download is actually 16.6GB. See Post #65 above.
Well you're starting to catch on, Yes it's wrong it displays the installed size not the DOWNLOAD SIZE. The new steam client has done this since it was released, The download is just over 10Gig.

[MenaceInc]

Well you're starting to catch on, Yes it's wrong it displays the installed size not the DOWNLOAD SIZE. The new steam client has done this since it was released, The download is just over 10Gig.

Did you even read my post that JD2 was referring to?

I can confirm that the download for FEAR is actually 17GB and not 10GB as I previously attested. The "Total Downloaded" value at the top of the download section of the Steam client is buggered. Even when downloading GTA3, it said that I had downloaded 700MB or so when it was actually 1300MB. So, unfortunately it's 17GB to download. What's interesting though is that the backup of FEAR is about 10GB.... weird.

Before this, I was certain that the download was only 10GB as well because that's what was shown in the downloads section of the Steam client. However, seeing the same thing happening with other games and downloads, it's just not possible to have the kind of compression that this would imply. It would have to be something like twice as good as 7zip.

[JD2]

Yes it's wrong it displays the installed size not the DOWNLOAD SIZE. The new steam client has done this since it was released, The download is just over 10Gig.
According to two people on this forum who used a third-party tool to measure the size of the downloaded data, the total download size is ~17GB. The 10GB size you keep repeating is simply wrong.

[Raefzm]

Where do you live? what isp has a download cap? thats the biggest bull♥♥♥♥ i've ever heard. Seriously?

A communist state or what?

[Chocolatelove67]

30 gig a month for me d/loaded this game today and was happy with my purchase

[MADDOGGE]

Where do you live? what isp has a download cap? thats the biggest bull♥♥♥♥ i've ever heard. Seriously?

A communist state or what?No, probably just poor old Australia land of the screwed when it comes to the net and game prices.:(:(

[Chocolatelove67]

No, probably just poor old Australia land of the screwed when it comes to the net and game prices.:(:(

Well I don't feel screwed the 30gig a month I get with my current ISP was a lot more generous then my old internet provider... But since getting on steam I hve discovered it's easy to lose up to 15gig a month in downloads :D

[Rock-N-Rolla]

ok. Now let's count the size of the game. In my opinion. This game must be split in individual installations.

What we have:
FEAR1(Original game without xp's) is 6.72GB (without folder extra)
FEAR1(without xp's) is 7.66GB (with folder extra) (This should be optioned install, all content of this folder has to be in instrument section)
FEAR XP1 - Extraction point (with main game 9.62) is 1.75GB (XP folder)
FEAR XP2 - Perseus mandate (it's a standalone expansion) is 7.62GB (XP2 folder, 1 fear is not required for play).


Why the hack should I download the second xp , or even first, if I just wanna play original fear?

I know that putting it all in one big setup script is easier and faster than adding options about custom install. but
1 - not everuone have a high speed isp
2 - someonrу have a speed limits (like me:5 Gb per month than speed decreases to 64kb/s)
3 - this will a little decrease your servers works...

Well, I think thats worth it.

[Alkpaz2]

I also agree that the downloads should be split up, and I have a fast DL speed and non-capped Internet.

Edit: I believe this should also be applied to other games in Steam's/Valve's library.

[AlHudsonFX]

Altough I live in third world (Mexico) fortunately here most ISPs doesn't cap downloads. (Cap download is ridiculous).

However still in 2010 there are many people that suffers from slow connections or lives in remote rural areas or their ISPs cap downloads.

So is important for developers and publishers optimize the download size for games. (e.g. GTA IV Gold for same files you need to download 16 GB twice!).

Anyways optimization always is good.

[MADDOGGE]

The thing is though that 16GB is around the size of most new games these day so that doesn't really hold a lot of water. I think GEEARs1 was 13.5, FEAR2 16GB, etc. If they had packaged them separate then they would have charged more. As it is for $10 I got 3 games one download.

[gestures468]

Fortunately I don't have a cap on how much I can download. In fact I downloaded about 40 GB of fan subbed anime in one 24 hour period :-)

I have 10 MB down and 1 MB up. So if I purchase it now and start the download when I get home in two hours, it should be ready for me to play when i wake up tomorrow morning :-)

what provider do you use? I want to be hooked up with some of that action.

[dig1tal_cha0s]

Plenty of times game's use up way more space then you download, look at every valve game.

[JimmyBananers]

Yes i'm siked that in 6 hours I might be able to play!!! lol just bought this and deselected the expansions but low and behold it still is downloading them. I figure its worth it for 2.50.

[Chocolatelove67]

Took me 75 minutes to download

[kalirion]

Seriously, 17GB for FEAR1? What did they cram into it????

I would not have bought the game had I known noticed this ahead of time - my laptop only has a 64GB SSD.

[Ren]

Had to uninstall two games to install this one. ^^'
Good thing I don't have any download limit.

[MadSkillz1o1]

This 17 GB bull is ludicrous. I can't wait till I get a better internet connection... I only have 125kb/s download atm, so this will take days. FIX THIS PLEASE

[PizzaSHARK!]

what provider do you use? I want to be hooked up with some of that action.

I have never, ever encountered an ISP with a download limit. Are yall living out in the boonies or what?

[postmanmanman]

Agh, I wish I read this thread before I bought the pack. How is a five-year-old game, even with expansions, 17 GB?! That's going to take days on my internet connection...

At least FEAR 2 is (marginally) less ridiculous in size.

[Navaran1]

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2324/awdaa.png

What??

[bharath_kamal]

Awesome deal up in Steam folks,

FEAR + EXTRACTION POINT + PERSEUS MANADATE - 2.49$ !
Cant get better and I AM able to download the game and the DLCs seperate - Woohoo! :cool:

[ShadowsforaY]

Damn, I just have 125-250kb/s download speed atm, so it means I need 40 hours to download this 5 yrs old game. Holy crap, hope it's worth my time.:o

[AlHudsonFX]

I have never, ever encountered an ISP with a download limit. Are yall living out in the boonies or what?

In many countries exists Cap downloads

[ZeroSignal]

I have never, ever encountered an ISP with a download limit. Are yall living out in the boonies or what?

I used to have one, we ditched them though.

[alternated]

I'm pretty annoyed about this too. Surely it would make more sense to separate the FEAR expansions/DLC from the main game, allowing users to download each title individually.

[bobsbarricades]

I'm glad we have it at all!! =/

[prospider]

I have to post here- this gluing crap is stupid. There needs to be a way to download FEAR without getting the crap standalone DLCs.

[nijuu]

I used to have one, we ditched them though.

ISP's go through cycles at least in OZ. Years ago unlimited was all the rage, then caps came in, then unlimited again (albeit in limited numbers at least here), and right now caps albeit with higher usage available (and download and uploads count toward usage is back as well).'Unlimited' in OZ will always be unsustainable :(

[Chocolatelove67]

ISP's go through cycles at least in OZ. Years ago unlimited was all the rage, then caps came in, then unlimited again (albeit in limited numbers at least here), and right now caps albeit with higher usage available (and download and uploads count toward usage is back as well).'Unlimited' in OZ will always be unsustainable :(

I don't know about unsustainable.... Does it cost the ISP any more for data coming into its servers then it does cost the user to download that data?

I think maybe the addition of new infrastructure will add cost, especially with the government hellbent on every ISP adding hardware to filter the internet as per its proposal to censor what comes into Australia, That may cause plants to hike up in cost, then there is the NBN and that's a whole other kettle of fish...

But caps are an artificial barrier... The data itself shouldn't cost any different between plans. Unlimited should be the main drawcard.

[waterstain]

My COGECO High-Speed-Internet-Usage chart reported I only used 10GB to download that *supposedly* 17GB F.E.A.R. plus 2 expansions pack deal!

… Who am I to argue with them?

Proceeding to download F.E.A.R. 2.

[FreemanForPrez]

My COGECO High-Speed-Internet-Usage chart reported I only used 10GB to download that *supposedly* 17GB F.E.A.R. plus 2 expansions pack deal!

… Who am I to argue with them?

Proceeding to download F.E.A.R. 2.


Well maybe you should argue with them. ;)
Check your folder for FEAR in your Steam directory. Mine says 16.6 GB.

[waterstain]

Regarding F.E.A.R. ultimate shooter edition: Steam reported 17GB for the download. The final game directory size is 16.6GB.

Not disputing those facts.

Just pointing out my cable service usage for downloading FEAR reported only 10GB used. … Some spooky-math is going on!

Well maybe you should argue with them. ;)

What? Ask them nicely to subtract an extra 7GB from my monthly allotment? … No. I don't think so … ;)

[Suntory_Times]

Regarding F.E.A.R. ultimate shooter edition: Steam reported 17GB for the download. The final game directory size is 16.6GB.

Not disputing those facts.

Just pointing out my cable service usage for downloading FEAR reported only 10GB used. … Some spooky-math is going on!



What? Ask them nicely to subtract an extra 7GB from my monthly allotment? … No. I don't think so … ;)

Wow, only 10 GB. In aus i'm at 50gb and am fighting to let my house mate upgrade it (they don't want to even though I would pay for the entire cost). Some people are just strange.