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AeneasXI
05-26-2010, 07:50 AM
Well I've been playing Austria in the coalition campaign, and I run into something I would like to know if this is intended like that.

Well since austrian strategy in history at 1805 was to destroy every possibility for food for the frenchmen, and because of that I decided to instantly Loot Bavaria to not give the french a good city for attacks into my territory.

Well everything seemed fine, except for Bavaria making a Revolt before the french would even come near bavaria.
Result was one FULL stack without general but ALL units were experienced. I mean outmaxed experience... And also alot of heavy cavalry units too.(this kind I only saw with napoleons starting army in egypt...)

Well long story short I started a new game since that stack just obliterated my Army under Mack. Then they went to invade Tirol and vienna...

I am wondering is this supposed to be like that? That way I only had a hostile SUPER bavaria, even more unstoppable than Napoleon himself and on top of that this bavaria is only at war with me ^^

Besides that full stack was ANOTHER rebel stack from the bavarians with about 4units maybe. I suppose that should be the "rebellion"? but what is it with the full stack of experienced bavarian warlords? :S
It kinda reminds me of rome total war babarian invasion where when the country would get eliminiated a huge stack would arise.
But then again this stack vanished as soon as they took a city. Here bavaria just goes rampage with their godlike troops xD

Is every rebellion like that or is this a bug or something specific to bavaria or....? just very confusing I want tripple experienced troops for nothing too =/

daniu
05-26-2010, 07:59 AM
It's normal, rebellions spawn lots of troops (I've seen 3 full stacks in France) which are very experienced (usually 3 chevrons).
If they manage to take over the province, their experience vanishes though.

AeneasXI
05-26-2010, 08:11 AM
It's normal, rebellions spawn lots of troops (I've seen 3 full stacks in France) which are very experienced (usually 3 chevrons).
If they manage to take over the province, their experience vanishes though.

Yes, but issn't this a bit unfair if he spawns an army that is as strong as 2/3 of my whole army which i barely can afford to pay? And I am a superpower while he is a 1province minor...
I mean if rebellions in that time would have been really that strong then napoleon would have had no chance to conquer europe but would have been killed by a rebelling baden würtemberg for example xD

Is it possible for me too to gain such sweet stacks? Like if another country takes a city of me and it rebels then. Will i recieve an experienced army then too or does this huge stack only work for countries that got destroyed?

daniu
05-26-2010, 09:03 AM
Yes, but issn't this a bit unfair if he spawns an army that is as strong as 2/3 of my whole army which i barely can afford to pay?
Yeah, totally.
But if rebellion armies were realistically modeled, they really would be no incentive whatsoever to keep order in provinces you just conquered... ;)
All I can recommend is to bring a lot of militia units along with your conquest army, they have an public order bonus if garrisoned in a capital.

Is it possible for me too to gain such sweet stacks? Like if another country takes a city of me and it rebels then. Will i recieve an experienced army then too or does this huge stack only work for countries that got destroyed?
That is a good question; I don't know, never happened to me.

swarfega
05-26-2010, 09:42 AM
hmm not experienced anything like that. I have managed to put down almost all rebellions.

Niscimble
05-26-2010, 10:51 AM
The best way to fight rebellions is on the map. The reason being is because you are much better at eliminating enemy units than the AI. Even if you lose, you could have taken out a couple of their units or their general (if they have one).