View Full Version : Campaign- CPU opponents not playing cards.
Ordengar
06-15-2010, 03:18 PM
I've been playing through the campaign and have had multiple planeswalkers not cast any cards, even ones they had mana for and would have benefitted them, it seemed to have started on the second bout with Chandra, up till I fought Tezzeret. His bout played out normally, and so did his second bout, otherwise its been like playing against nothing. Just wondering if this has happened to anyone else.
Leafninja
06-15-2010, 03:48 PM
Yeah, it happened to me in a couple matches during the campaign. I exited the game then came back and it started working fine.
Ordengar
06-15-2010, 04:15 PM
Yeah, I tried that too and it didn't help. The first round of fights go fine, and then its basically Tez and one fight with Sarkhan Vol from the xpac. Its.. odd. Ahh well, second playthrough is keeping me busy with new decks :P
kamster99
06-15-2010, 05:44 PM
I've seen that yea.
I've also seen the computer stall in main and attack phases, even though they don't end up doing anything. It slows the game down, a lot!
ingramvaliant
06-16-2010, 06:11 AM
Yeah, I've had this same problem.
Maybe it has something to do with the CPU issues that others are reporting?
I've messed around with the cpu time allotment settings as well as cpu throttling. These options haven't solved any of these issues.
mantose
06-16-2010, 06:21 AM
I set the computer to easy mode ... I have had a range of experiances .. from dumb play to unbeatable play ...
dumb play ... AI cast giant growth on one of his own creatures in the second main phase ... consistently casting haste creatures in the second main phase ... I am not sure if they were just dumb mistakes or maybe it was because it was set to easiest computer AI setting.
I have since changed to the medium AI setting now that I am playing the campaign.
ingramvaliant
06-16-2010, 06:44 AM
I have set on Hard. The computer literally will only play basic land. They will discard cards once they draw above 7 and have no land left to play. They could clearly have played cards that have been discarded.
WhiteCarnation
06-16-2010, 06:47 AM
Right now the difficulties are glitched
Mage - Hard
Archmage - Medium
Planeswalker - Easy
It's backwards.
ingramvaliant
06-16-2010, 07:44 AM
I've deleted the game and reinstalled, and still have the same issue. I've also tried using 'mage' instead of planeswalker on the off chance that the difficulty setting had something to do with it. Still no dice.
Right now the difficulties are glitched
Mage - Hard
Archmage - Medium
Planeswalker - Easy
It's backwards.That's strange, I am playing on Planeswalker and I don't win easily. I am a causal player, but I am not new.
Skinblock
06-16-2010, 10:11 AM
I have set on Hard. The computer literally will only play basic land. They will discard cards once they draw above 7 and have no land left to play. They could clearly have played cards that have been discarded.
I am getting exactly this problem.
will try play on easy mode see if they are backwards like whitecarnation says.
tried on easy and still the same defiantly some bug
when I first load game up and try campaign computer AI works fine then next battle computer start playing lands only, and not playing any other card typrs.
moondog548
06-16-2010, 08:39 PM
I have set on Hard. The computer literally will only play basic land. They will discard cards once they draw above 7 and have no land left to play. They could clearly have played cards that have been discarded.
Ditto... :p
rutra80
06-17-2010, 11:08 AM
And same here. This is actually one of the most serious bugs - what's the fun of playing when AI only casts lands? It's just dumb clicking, it's unplayable. If someone finds a workaround, post it please.
What CPUs do you people have? Because I have a theory that on weak CPUs (mine is an ancient AthlonXP 3200+) AI sometimes doesn't get enough time to do the thinking, so it just tosses the most obvious land card.
For the time being, I put this game in its alpha version away until they hit the beta stage.
ingramvaliant
06-17-2010, 06:05 PM
I also have an athlon 64 3200+.
moondog548
06-17-2010, 07:46 PM
Athalon 64 3000+
ingramvaliant
06-18-2010, 12:46 PM
Supposedly there was an update. This issue was not resolved with the update.
Bump. This bug is seriously obnoxious. It affects up to a third of the games I play.
needanick
06-20-2010, 12:12 AM
Not to that degree. Sometimes the AI seems to fall asleep or ragequit. I don't blame it, I do the same.
Edit: Archmage difficulty, fwiw.
Martaction
06-20-2010, 09:43 AM
This happens to me every second or third game. A restart fixes it, though.
Xtowers
06-22-2010, 11:15 AM
I have tried contacting Wizards of the Coast support, but they are not very helpful.
This is interesting, but I'm also running with a similar processor. I have an AMD Athlon XP 2400+.
BeeGod
06-22-2010, 01:25 PM
Man, 3 out of 4 games I play the AI is "sleeping", only playing lands. This bug is really annoying!
Also, I'm usign a Athlon 64 3500+, but the bug also occur on a Intel Core 2 Duo T5670
Sometimes the game did not even find an online game to play! I have to restart it to become useful again.
Xtowers
06-23-2010, 12:30 PM
Okay so John K. from the Wizards of the Coast Online Response Crew sent this thread to the development team for investigation. According to John, if this truly is a bug or game malfunction (which it obviously is), then there should be a patch shortly.
kiann
06-23-2010, 04:07 PM
I got a intel T4200, and I'm facing the same problem ...
Hope a patch will come quickly ! =)
rutra80
06-24-2010, 04:01 AM
This happens to me every second or third game. A restart fixes it, though.
I can play only one game normally, then it starts to play lands only until I quit to windows and restart the game.
Skinblock
06-24-2010, 07:45 AM
And same here. This is actually one of the most serious bugs - what's the fun of playing when AI only casts lands? It's just dumb clicking, it's unplayable. If someone finds a workaround, post it please.
What CPUs do you people have? Because I have a theory that on weak CPUs (mine is an ancient AthlonXP 3200+) AI sometimes doesn't get enough time to do the thinking, so it just tosses the most obvious land card.
For the time being, I put this game in its alpha version away until they hit the beta stage.
only workaround is like what people are saying and that's to restart the game from windows.
also in co-op campaign I can play two games before the AI only plays land cards whereas in single player campaign I play one game before AI goes to playing lands ONLY
BTW I run a AMD Athlon xp 2800+ processor
omnix32
06-24-2010, 07:49 AM
The AI for some reason took a extra turn on me before (Red deck and no timewalk in sight)
Is this issue for AMD and some duel cores??
I have a 64 bit system and quad core. Outside the extra turns once in awhile, I have not noticed the AI going to sleep.
Lets hope for a patch and pinpointing what causes this.
Have fun.
I have this issue also and can reproduce it. I play in windowed mode, when clicking outside the game the game automatically pauses keeping it like that for like a minute (say reading a mail that just arrived) will cause the AI player to have no clue what to do and just spends it's time waiting during its turns. CPU usage isn't affected or disproportionate. I haven't had the AI take extra turns on me. It is like the AI thinks it has already spend it's time thinking while the game was on pause since after playing a while the issue goes away(in a next game), restarting also fixes it. I haven't tried it with the new update yet :) maybe its already fixed.
-- I haven't been able to reproduce this bug with the latest update that downloaded while i initially wrote this post; \o/ so far :>
:( :( :(
And thus i just played a game against Chandra and she had 7 mountains down 7 cards in her hands and never played a single spell. Impossible that she didn't have any red cards that couldn't be played with 7 mountains.
ingramvaliant
06-24-2010, 11:36 AM
Today's patch did not resolve the issue for me.
Murderer
08-10-2010, 04:02 PM
I am also experiencing this issue on my Athlon 64 3000+
glasseye67
08-13-2010, 12:26 PM
It happens after the first game you play. In the next game the AI will not play cards. You have to restart the game to fix it.
Not a minor bug. A MAJOR bug. And it is completely unacceptable that WOTC has done nothing about it.
I guess they figure the online works so the hell with it.
ArchGabriell
08-13-2010, 03:59 PM
This game is a BUG itself, I regret ever buying this crap. I read they were trying to introduce MTG to newer players with this game .... yeah, wait for me, I'll jump right in.
Scorpiuscat
08-13-2010, 04:32 PM
This is a serious bug that needs to be fixed, come on WOTC you know its there....FIX IT!!!
Biffmage
08-14-2010, 12:08 AM
I sometimes like to use black/green elves deck to see just how much I can overkill the AI by *so far 4900~* but as soon as I get about 10-15 elves in the AI starts to take a very long time during both main phases to do absolutly nothing so If I am really determined to overkill the AI it will take atleast 45 minutes to an hour pretty annoying...
Also the difficulty's are vastly different when playing Custom Duel or Campaign, ex. Planeswalker in Custom Duel is pathetically easy I don't think i've gone below 10hp, however in campaign it seems like the AI always has a card to counter you. Had a white deck play 3 Holy days and then a wrath of god ugh still annoys me.
neobie2
09-23-2010, 05:25 PM
I played at least a dozen games in the campaign mode, and a few other in customs duels.
The AI never showed up. In one of two games, it played a card or two. In all the others, it simply accumulated mana, discarding playable cards. I even saw it discard a basic land.
I restarted from windows everytime after the first few games. Never changed anything.
My CPU is a Celeron D 3.20 Ghz, with 1 G of RAM. I run windows xp service pack 3.
Is this fixed in one of the expansion? (I only bought the core game, so far) Or is there a patch or something?
Not a single acceptable game. Only frustration.
Brother Horus
09-25-2010, 03:08 AM
athalon 64 3500 same problem, play one match all okay. Play a 2nd match and AI will not cast any spells......
Astral_Nomad
09-26-2010, 01:16 PM
Yeah, I tried that too and it didn't help. The first round of fights go fine, and then its basically Tez and one fight with Sarkhan Vol from the xpac. Its.. odd. Ahh well, second playthrough is keeping me busy with new decks :P
As i said a couple weeks ago, I played SIX straight games in those games, only one AI played a non-land card. I did this just to see how many times i could go without having to do jack to win games and to prove a point that the shuffler needs to be reworked.
captain_video
09-27-2010, 09:34 PM
This problem has nothing to do with the shuffler. It is a (major) bug in the client which causes the AI to stop counting its mana correctly, so it won't play anything that has a casting cost. The workaround is to quit the client and restart, and then usually you can play at least one game normally. It is the worst of several major bugs, which apparently will never be fixed.
Nimmer
09-29-2010, 01:16 AM
I have expansion 1 and I've only seen the AI not play it's creatures / spells on one occasion. Are people who experience this problem just running the core game?
Also, I know it frustrating but complaining on the steam forums is pointless, no Wizard employees will be reading any threads here for sure. It would be best to state your points directly at the Wizards website (whether that gets results is another matter!)
Hilari0n
10-02-2010, 04:34 PM
Have same problem here. Even tried to play to the last card in library. The AI used no card beside lands.
Happens with different opponents in different plays (campaign and duel) on average difficulty level.
rjarana
10-02-2010, 10:25 PM
I'm glad to hear this isn't only happening to me but mad to know that it hasn't been fixed. I've got an intel pentium 4 processor so the amd processors shouldn't be the problem. Well for now I can unlock pretty much all the decks this way but I do want some kind of challenge since I'm learning how to play. I think I have a good grasp but damn the ai will either only play lands or give me one crazy hard fight. Hope this gets fixed.
Nerv322
10-03-2010, 02:14 AM
I've had this happen to me once so far since I bought this game the other day. I wasn't sure if the AI was bugged or the AI didn't have cards to play. Guess I know now, wasn't too bothered on that game becuse I just wanted easy battles while I unlocked everything.
Just out of curiosity does chaging the amount of time the AI gets to think in the settings help elevate this? just in case this becomes a common problem for me.
Thanks
kingicheboo
10-03-2010, 09:56 PM
The bug has to do with your computer's processor. I have the program on two computers, one is a Intel i7 and the other is an AMD Athlon XP 4-5 year old computer. On the Intel, the AI always shows up, but on the old computer, it usually fights the first battle and refuses to play anything but land cards on the second battle onwards and I have to restart the program. This is probably why the company does not respond or fix the problem, since the problem isn't being duplicated on their new spanky computers.
ttyork
10-18-2010, 03:12 PM
pentium 4 3 ghz the first round played goes fine but every round following that the comp plays only lands.
Companies are supposed to offer a product that works on all computers that meet it's requirements and mine exceeds them so the problem is really lousy product service from the company and excessive greed.
Makes me wish for the days before that stupid intellectual proprietary software law was passed that allowed pc programmers to sell F'ed up non-working software and consumers had no ability to return them. Yes, it's true, once upon a time if you got a program that didn't work, you could return it. Now, makers can put out alpha-rated junk and you are out of luck and money when it doesn't work.
captain_video
10-19-2010, 09:26 PM
It's definitely a math bug. Not sure why i7 CPUs would be OK and others not, but we haven't seen the code. If you're one of the people who has the problem, the only known workaround is to play one game against the AI at a time, and then close and restart the client. Then it should be OK no matter what class of CPU you have.
Hilari0n
10-20-2010, 12:33 AM
I had similar problem ("stupid" AI) in challenge mode, but in that case game restarts did not help. What helped was freeing as much CPU as I could (stopping unnecesary services and background applications).
I have Intel Celeron 3,2GHz and 2 GB of RAM.
ttyork
10-23-2010, 02:15 PM
We meet the requirements they post, but the game doesn't work. We paid for a working game and instead of fixing their errors, they make ten thousand dlc's to get more money. Nice work showing where their priorities are cuz customer service isn't one of them
kartana
12-21-2010, 08:17 AM
Same problem. Only happens with Planeswalker difficulty tho!
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