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Threesixtyci
06-15-2010, 06:05 PM
Looks to me that Oblivion resets the Auto-update setting to on whenever you start the game. Seems to change the setting to on the instant the default Oblivion splash loader pop's up.

Can anyone verify?

Go to Library and Right click on Oblivion and select, Properties. Go the the update tab and change the pull down to do not update. Then close properties. Start Oblivion and after the splash loader comes up, go back into the steam interface and check the auto-update function again. See, if it goes back to Auto update.

If it does for everyone that tries, then it's definitely a Bug and Steam needs to fix this. Most likely, the only way they're going to take notice is, if this thread stays on top and gets a huge post count.

I bet this happens to all games that activates a splash loader.... If it does, then it's the Steam interface itself that has the bug. What other games have such a loader?

Mount and Blades does.... doesn't it.

Mount and Blades does it too, on my PC....

Please Confirm....everyone.

CreditToTeam
06-15-2010, 09:50 PM
Erm. Whats the problem if it does?

Threesixtyci
06-15-2010, 11:24 PM
I have Oblivion heavily modded... So I just don't want the chance that Steam will mess my mods up. Besides it annoying. I set the game to not update, and it refuses to stay that way.

There are those that have download limits with their Internet Providers... and that could be a problem for them.

Also, it seems to sometimes adds a good 1 to 2 minutes of waiting for the game to start, if you are in online mode. I mean, when it happens to me I'll see a box come up saying that Oblivion has finish downloading... (I'll see it pop up in the lower Right Corner of windows after Oblivion's launcher shows up.)

Regardless, it should be fixed. And the only way to confirm that it's a bug is with proof. And so far, I'm not sure if it's just me, or it's the same for everyone.

JagFel
06-16-2010, 04:59 AM
I think it has to do with the DLC's. When I launch Oblivion there's a sleight pause then the notification pops up saying Steam has finished downloading Oblivion DLC content or some such. Then the launcher appears.

Asuterisuku
06-16-2010, 09:55 AM
Considering that Bethesda doesn't officially support the game anymore, I really don't think that will be an issue. There will be no new patches to mess up your mods.

Threesixtyci
06-16-2010, 03:11 PM
Considering that Bethesda doesn't officially support the game anymore, I really don't think that will be an issue. There will be no new patches to mess up your mods.

Regardless, it's still verifying something... adding time to the load time, at random times. Not to mention making me worry that it's trying to correct a file that my mod has altered...which would then break the mod. And even though it's probably not messing up my files, I still rather have it set to no updates....

What I'm really looking for is verification that it's happening to everyone's PC and not just a few of us.... Also, verification that it's for all games that have a similar type of splash screen that launch a game; Mount and Blade, being another example.

MarkG
06-16-2010, 03:43 PM
Anyway, it definitely happens on my system too :).

Ravenger
06-17-2010, 06:50 AM
it happens on mine. It's also annoying that I can't run Oblivion without running the launcher first. The disc version I've got allows you to run the game directly.

Transmeta
06-17-2010, 07:47 AM
It's just checking the DLC, I have the issue sometimes and I am running vanilla deluxe, it's not gonna bork your mods or anything. It's just checking that the DLC is proper. (remember SI broke stuff before they got that patched)

Threesixtyci
06-18-2010, 11:20 AM
It's just checking the DLC, I have the issue sometimes and I am running vanilla deluxe, it's not gonna bork your mods or anything. It's just checking that the DLC is proper. (remember SI broke stuff before they got that patched)

I still don't like it... and it still should be repaired, regardless. This is obviously a glitch with the Steam Program, and not the game's.

MarkG
06-18-2010, 11:22 AM
It's just checking that the DLC is proper. (remember SI broke stuff before they got that patched)

So why does it keep saying it's downloaded something when I run the game?

A game automatically changing settings that I've manually configured is truly lousy software design.

ed2417
06-19-2010, 05:11 AM
I have this too and would like to see it fixed.

CreditToTeam
06-20-2010, 07:21 AM
I run a fair few mods and don't get this verification problem at all. Are you using OBSE or an otherwise modded .exe file? that would make it do that.

Transmeta
06-22-2010, 04:16 AM
I don't think it is actually downloading anything as the download page reports 0 data during any sessions that I only play oblivion. It is probably just checking the steam DRM to make sure you are allowed to run the DLC, I don't think the ones you can buy off the site work with the steam version. As for any mods you install, it will never mess with them unless they come out with a game patch (and would only break them if they made some major changes), and thats pretty doubtful these days.

DerrickG
06-22-2010, 10:01 AM
Looks to me that Oblivion resets the Auto-update setting to on whenever you start the game. Seems to change the setting to on the instant the default Oblivion splash loader pop's up.

Can anyone verify?

Go to Library and Right click on Oblivion and select, Properties. Go the the update tab and change the pull down to do not update. Then close properties. Start Oblivion and after the splash loader comes up, go back into the steam interface and check the auto-update function again. See, if it goes back to Auto update.

If it does for everyone that tries, then it's definitely a Bug and Steam needs to fix this. Most likely, the only way they're going to take notice is, if this thread stays on top and gets a huge post count.

I bet this happens to all games that activates a splash loader.... If it does, then it's the Steam interface itself that has the bug. What other games have such a loader?

Mount and Blades does.... doesn't it.

Mount and Blades does it too, on my PC....

Please Confirm....everyone.

This is supposed to happen as every game needs to be fully updated in order to run.

Threesixtyci
06-22-2010, 11:19 AM
This is supposed to happen as every game needs to be fully updated in order to run.
Huh? So you're saying any Steam game won't run, if it's running an older version? And Oblivion has been updated multiple times within the last few weeks?

So, why have the option to turn off auto updates for each Steam game individually, if it has no effect? Is it a left over from an old idea? One would think it would have been removed with the introduction of the new interface, if that were so.

Being that Oblivion supports modding, it makes more sense, to me, in having the auto updating disabled, even if only for a precaution. But, you say it's supposed to lock into auto-update mode regardless of what I set it to?

As it stands now, every time I mod something into Oblivion, I have to wait an extra 30-120 seconds for the game's splash screen to appear, because when it finally does, a Steam message says that Oblivion GOTY has finished downloading. And when I select no auto-updates for Oblivion, it always resets to auto-update mode, right after the launch splash shows up.

I don't know... seems like a Steam Interface Glitch to me...

Chillwill
06-22-2010, 04:38 PM
It does a check to see if your using the latest version is all. The message saying its updated is just the same as saying you already have the latest version.

I guess you can call it misleading but yeah whatever.

Threesixtyci
06-23-2010, 09:59 AM
It does a check to see if your using the latest version is all. The message saying its updated is just the same as saying you already have the latest version.

I guess you can call it misleading but yeah whatever.

But, the point I'm making is that there is an option to turn off auto-update for all games inside Steam's front end loader. You right click on the game in the Library section and go to it's properties and the option is in one of the Tabs.

For Oblivion if you change it to not auto-updates it changes backs as soon as Oblivion splash/launch screen comes up. It's a broken feature in Steam's Front End, Loader.

Plus, the no auto-updates works, but you need to constantly turn it off, before and after Oblivion's launch screen comes up; every time, you start the game.