this vs bf bc 2

[lukewilsonrocks]

takes a little bit from it? sure
lacks destruction 2.0? absolutely
am i happy? yes

This game runs sooooo much better than bc 2, i can play it. This will basically let me play bc2 for the first time haha

[noodlesoup]

Currently BC2 is a clear winner, this just feels clunky, not smooth at all, and rediculously feels like a crap version of modern warfare.

I honestly just see it as a leech, attempting to suck money out of your bank account by being all "new and shiny".

Needs some serious work done, DICE are going to have to work day and night to get this ready for the release date. But can they do it? I dont think so, they cant even patch BC2 ontime AND they're now working on its expansion.

[ragouKi]

takes a little bit from it? sure
lacks destruction 2.0? absolutely
am i happy? yes

This game runs sooooo much better than bc 2, i can play it. This will basically let me play bc2 for the first time haha

thats strange, this game runs much worse than bfbc2 for me.
The explosions dont even look good at all and drop the framerate dramatically. I experienced on average 50+ fps in bc2

amd phenom II x4 be @ 3.6ghz
hd 4890 x2 crossfire
4gb ram

[Clonesa]

No destruction 2.0 = massive fail
Cloning MW2 gameplay = even bigger fail
Expecting people who BC2 to shell out $60 because you felt like taking the staff off BC2 to make a new game for no reason = epic fail

[BagNasty]

No destruction 2.0 = massive fail
Cloning MW2 gameplay = even bigger fail
Expecting people who BC2 to shell out $60 because you felt like taking the staff off BC2 to make a new game for no reason = epic fail

I don't know why they'd use two different engines for the game and specifically Frostbite for multiplayer when destruction 2.0 isn't being used. DICE isn't known for it's stellar netcode regarding it's engines especially frostbite so they really should have just gone with Unreal Engine 3.0 instead. The more I start thinking about this game the more it sounds like a hastily thought out idea that doesn't make sense.

[fumanshoe64]

No destruction 2.0 = massive fail
Cloning MW2 gameplay = even bigger fail
Expecting people who BC2 to shell out $60 because you felt like taking the staff off BC2 to make a new game for no reason = epic fail

hallelujah & amen. preach it brother.

[Strelok]

Currently BC2 is a clear winner, this just feels clunky, not smooth at all, and rediculously feels like a crap version of modern warfare.

I honestly just see it as a leech, attempting to suck money out of your bank account by being all "new and shiny".

Needs some serious work done, DICE are going to have to work day and night to get this ready for the release date. But can they do it? I dont think so, they cant even patch BC2 ontime AND they're now working on its expansion.

Wierd, BC2 feels clunky compared to this to me. And it has not got all the perks and added on rubbish of modern warfare.

[RyRy57]

to me the game is alot buggier than bc2. but this is the first day of a beta so im expecting that and with the game 4 months off. but im enjoying this more than bc2.

[noodlesoup]

Wierd, BC2 feels clunky compared to this to me. And it has not got all the perks and added on rubbish of modern warfare.

Those "perks" and added rubbish are just disguised as gun attachments, killstreak bonuses and the like.

Fair enough if you think it feels less clunky tho.

[chronox12]

Currently BC2 is a clear winner, this just feels clunky, not smooth at all, and rediculously feels like a crap version of modern warfare.

It's the beta version dude. You're making final judgments from unfinished software.

[RedManATI]

I dont have the game yet..but ive seen a lot of videos and so far here is my stand..

ALthough there is about 4 months left till the release if they are going to release this product WITH ONLY WEAPON BALANCES AND BUG FIXES this game should be only $40 AT MAX

The graphics just look horrible imo...is this game gonna even utilize dx11 and no destruction 2.0 why use the frostbite engine?
The texture, the detail they all look so plain

I will be getting my beta key soon because gamestop is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but when i do ill come back and edit this post

[TJX]

I love it, first people complaing that it looked too much like BC2, and now you're all ♥♥♥♥♥ing about the map sizes and destruction not being like BC2. Make up your mind kids.

[BagNasty]

I love it, first people complaing that it looked too much like BC2, and now you're all ♥♥♥♥♥ing about the map sizes and destruction not being like BC2. Make up your mind kids.

That's the ONLY reason why'd you use frostbite in the first place...without that you may as well use something that works a hell of a lot better like, uh, unreal engine 3 which is being used for the single player anyway.

Did DICE need to stop working on their unfinished and broken BFBC2 game to work on another game using an engine which main attraction isn't even used? No.

[Chubz123]

I love it, first people complaing that it looked too much like BC2, and now you're all ♥♥♥♥♥ing about the map sizes and destruction not being like BC2. Make up your mind kids.

I can destroy your post with a single sentence:
If it looks like BC2, it should act like BC2.

[noodlesoup]

It's the beta version dude. You're making final judgments from unfinished software.

I know its the beta, you just didnt read the end of my original post.

Seriously, I doubt this will be in a good enough state for release date considering BC2 wasnt, and they have its expansion to work on too.

[thor2002ro]

The game is crap... played for ~1h then asked for refund

[thametz]

How can you compare a 1 day old beta release to BFBC2? In all honesty, I find myself playing this ALOT more than i did BFBC2 beta. Now days it's kind of hard to develop a completely new FPS experience. I mean what are you all expecting? It either is to much like a previous game or not not enough like another. Like the weighted weapons, i like that cause its simply different than both MW2 and BFBC2. Some things need to be new, unfamiliar and different. Play the game, find what you like, don't like and why. Try to explain it in a way where people can understand you're point of view, not just random remarks that do nothing or mean nothing. The beta is out for a reason, to gather ideas and opinions on how to make the final product better.

[Chapa9dj]

Thanks for saving me $60. I hated BC2 and i'm sure i could have hated this one too..

I'll just keep playing MW2 while i wait for BlackOps.

[Atomic Hamster]

This is just the MP part of the game, not THE game. The SP is considered the main game with this. BC2 is a MP game with SP tacked on really and MW2 is a MP again with a weak SP tacked on.

This is not the whole of MoH...

[xFlashx]

How can you compare a 1 day old beta release to BFBC2? In all honesty, I find myself playing this ALOT more than i did BFBC2 beta. Now days it's kind of hard to develop a completely new FPS experience. I mean what are you all expecting? It either is to much like a previous game or not not enough like another. Like the weighted weapons, i like that cause its simply different than both MW2 and BFBC2. Some things need to be new, unfamiliar and different. Play the game, find what you like, don't like and why. Try to explain it in a way where people can understand you're point of view, not just random remarks that do nothing or mean nothing. The beta is out for a reason, to gather ideas and opinions on how to make the final product better.

why are you already such a moh fanboy, the game isnt even out yet. gez.

yes you can't compare this to the full bc2 game, but i played the bc2 beta for 50+ hrs because it was so fun, way less bugs, gameplay was more fun and new (to me) with the destruction aspect.

I am not sure what this game is trying to do... it doesnt stand out... I do like the guns better like you said over bc2, better feel and sound to shooting.

I like the smaller (sorta) maps, and more infantry focus, bc2 can sometimes get a bit vehicle heavy.

but this game doesnt stand out at all, it doesnt do enough to seperate from mw2, or bc2... shame.

I will def check out single player though, because i bet it will be better than bc2's sp lol

[thametz]

I'm not favoring any game in particular. I personally enjoy playing cod, bfbc2, and this beta. I'm more of a single player person and I'm greatly looking forward to MOH for that.

Yes i agree it does feel familiar, and could pass off as a BFBC2 mod in its multilayer state. What kind of things could they implement to change things up? What would you like to see? I mean games are gonna have to start doing something very spectacular here, because lots of them feel the same, the genre can only go so far without upsetting the core users of what they "expect" in a FPS title. Like if a game doesn't have a progression system similar to COD people get mad, If it doesn't have vehicles they get mad, If it doesn't have destructible environments... You see where I'm going here. Kids want a perfect game. That is not going to happen. Find a happy medium where design choices and ideas from several games and concepts can be blended into a new and unique gameplay element. Hopefully this can happen with good feedback from testers. Most likely not, but thats all up to YOU! 95% of users don't provide any feedback what so ever to the devs.

The only thing i was saying was be more positive about it and have the flames be more constructive and hopefully we can keep our fingers cross that in the end the game will turn out great.

And why do people say "I paid $60 for this?!?..." It is a privilege by the developers to let you test the game, are you really expecting an end product? If so, you have never done any sort of beta testing.

[Dan221081]

I am not impressed by this game at all so far. It lacks any type of team play and just seems to encourage camping in fact every game I have played so far has resulted in both teams just sitting at the back of the map.

This is a huge step back from something like BFBC2 which for me was a huge step forward. Graphically this game also leaves a lot to be desired with multiple weapons appearing to do no damage what soever e.g the M203 grenade. And while I agree that BFBC2 was way too spammy in a lot of places, having weapons that dont act realistically is just pointless and you might as well remove them.

And another thing who the hell wants to play as a terrorist ? I am getting the impression this game hasnt really been thought out a great deal.

Also ingame noone can speak because the chat thing is bugged... Very annoying.

[noodlesoup]

And another thing who the hell wants to play as a terrorist ? I am getting the impression this game hasnt really been thought out a great deal.


About the m203.. well its a beta, the damage is just a tweakable thing, cant really moan about that. But lol, I do agree with playing as a taliban, CoD4 did it right, with brits, US, Rus and "Op4" which actually look like an army rather than a "terrorist". I can see the team balance stacking highly in the US' favour.