Game crashes 100% of time on Alt+Tab

[ekztal]

I can alt+tab out of a game after todays update. But when I click back into the game it'll freeze and I'll get a Program Not Responding window from windows.

I've tried it 8 times and it has happened 100% of the time.

Also I'm getting lag spikes, it appears I'm the only one getting tham on my server thou... my Win 7 Resource Monitor isn't showing much network traffic other than Steam.

I'm on Windows 7 64bit

[sniperchick]

i get the same thing when i alt-tab, though not 100%, also on win7 64 bit. i don't know what i did to fix it unfortunately :/ i had stopped alt tabbing for a while because i knew it would crash, then one day i forgot and accidentally tabbed out and it miraculously didn't crash. i know that dods doesn't really like windows7 at all, so it might just be something that might get fixed if you wait a few months, or it might be a graphical issue, as the only thing i've changed is my config

[Ustwes R. Dewo]

I'm sure its there as an anti cheat method to make sure no one alt+tabs to load cheats.

[coprophagia]

lol just like its there for COD,COD2,COD4,CODWAW when you can't even use the Steam Overlay at all or its Punkbuster Detects "Disallowed Program Driver....

[sniperchick]

i always thought the flashlight and achievement bugs that crashed the game when you used the flashlight or clicked achievements was just valve's way of showing support, because they knew how frustrating it is to play a game that rewards high ping, low fps, and penalizes low ping, high fps and good aim, because they knew after a few minutes of playing and shooting someone in the face, knocking their helmet off and covering them in blood, only to strafe around the corner, then warp backwards 15 feet and get headshotted by someone with 250 ping playing assault, you'd want a quick way to close the game ;)

[BroflMouth]

i always thought the flashlight and achievement bugs that crashed the game when you used the flashlight or clicked achievements was just valve's way of showing support, because they knew how frustrating it is to play a game that rewards high ping, low fps, and penalizes low ping, high fps and good aim, because they knew after a few minutes of playing and shooting someone in the face, knocking their helmet off and covering them in blood, only to strafe around the corner, then warp backwards 15 feet and get headshotted by someone with 250 ping playing assault, you'd want a quick way to close the game ;)
Flashlight bugs are fixed. And the OB engine has better netcode than the original DoD:S so high ping wouldn't be caused by anything but the server or client. There are some broken achievements though.

[sniperchick]

it has awful netcode, and i didn't say anything about the cause of high ping, i know it's caused by the client playing on a server on a different continent. what i was saying was that having high ping gives you the advantage of lag compensation, which in this game just means if you aim anywhere within 4 playermodel widths of the person you're shooting at, you'll hit them, regardless of small details like walls and stuff that might be between you and them. however having good ping gets you the advantage of being able to shoot people in the face and have blood splatter all over the wall and them, but not do any damage, then get killed by them. you can disagree with me about the netcode and advantages of high ping, but you'll probably be setting yourself up to get flamed because the majority of the people who actually post here agree that the netcode is awful and high ping is easy mode

[Ustwes R. Dewo]

Flashlight bugs are fixed. And the OB engine has better netcode than the original DoD:S so high ping wouldn't be caused by anything but the server or client. There are some broken achievements though.

I've highlighted the portion of your post that caused me to ignore anything you had to say.

[BroflMouth]

it has awful netcode, and i didn't say anything about the cause of high ping, i know it's caused by the client playing on a server on a different continent. what i was saying was that having high ping gives you the advantage of lag compensation, which in this game just means if you aim anywhere within 4 playermodel widths of the person you're shooting at, you'll hit them, regardless of small details like walls and stuff that might be between you and them. however having good ping gets you the advantage of being able to shoot people in the face and have blood splatter all over the wall and them, but not do any damage, then get killed by them. you can disagree with me about the netcode and advantages of high ping, but you'll probably be setting yourself up to get flamed because the majority of the people who actually post here agree that the netcode is awful and high ping is easy mode
You are correct, I am, give or take, the only person defending anything Valve does on these forums and I know I will be flamed. I play on a server that kicks people with pings higher than 150 so I never experience any issues with high ping advantages, so I apologize for speaking about that without proper knowledge to defend my claim. A tip for you is to find a server that does the same, that should technically get rid of all those issues you stated.

[Negative!]

didn't read much of this thread, but i keep dods in windowed mode because it always crashed on me and locks my screen up to where i have to restart my pc.

[sniperchick]

You are correct, I am, give or take, the only person defending anything Valve does on these forums and I know I will be flamed. I play on a server that kicks people with pings higher than 150 so I never experience any issues with high ping advantages, so I apologize for speaking about that without proper knowledge to defend my claim. A tip for you is to find a server that does the same, that should technically get rid of all those issues you stated.

i can't be picky with servers because there are only 13 left in central/eastern US that i'm not banned from

[StrontiumDog]

I run DoDS in a window.
Makes it easier to go back to stuff on your machine such as HLSW...

[Wiggums5]

I alt tab all the time and have never had it crash.

[sniperchick]

I alt tab all the time and have never had it crash.

win7 64 bit?

[BroflMouth]

i can't be picky with servers because there are only 13 left in central/eastern US that i'm not banned from
Lol, may I ask why you are banned from the rest of the servers?

[sniperchick]

Lol, may I ask why you are banned from the rest of the servers?

mostly aimbot/wallhack, several "quick scope scripting," some "grenade exploits," very few no recoil hacks, and just one (and my favorite) "you are frightening our regulars away"

allow me to define a few terms for the context of the above statement:

aimbot - Verb. Having a KDR >1 with any gun that is not assault, mg, or c96. 1) You just sniped me while I was running! I haven't spectated you at all, but I've been playing for 3 days now and I'm a pro assault who knows all about hacks cause I played CSS and EVERYONE hacks there, so you're aimbotting!

wallhack - Verb. Having more common sense and greater reflexes than the common non-genetically enhanced cabbage. 1) I just killed 15 of your teammates from the same spot with you watching, then you came around the corner and prefired me! wallhacker! 2) (archaic) I alt-tabbed and you killed me, but you're still in spawn!

quick scope scripting - Verb. cl_autorezoom 0. 1) You came out of bunker and sniped me on the sandbags by the axis 2nd flag then ran back to bunker before I could even pull the trigger on my 42cal. I've seen the quick scope script before, cheater.

grenade exploits - Noun. Priming a rifle grenade or throwing an enemy grenade back and killing someone. 1) He's using grenade exploits! He just shot a rifle grenade at the corner I was hiding behind and it blew up instantly!

no recoil - Adjective. Control over the heavy recoil. 1) He just killed me with a support while standing up! He's got no recoil!

frightening our regulars - Adjective. Having played in CAL prior to season 8. 1) You were previously banned for "aimbot," however, due to your polite and professionally worded post on our forums, we have reviewed your ban and decided that there is no evidence that you use any hacks or exploits. However, you are above the typical skill level of many of our members and that is frightening our regulars away from our server, so we have decided that your ban will remain in place. We apologize for the inconvenience.

[BroflMouth]

mostly aimbot/wallhack, several "quick scope scripting," some "grenade exploits," very few no recoil hacks, and just one (and my favorite) "you are frightening our regulars away"

allow me to define a few terms for the context of the above statement:

aimbot - Verb. Having a KDR >1 with any gun that is not assault, mg, or c96. 1) You just sniped me while I was running! I haven't spectated you at all, but I've been playing for 3 days now and I'm a pro assault who knows all about hacks cause I played CSS and EVERYONE hacks there, so you're aimbotting!

wallhack - Verb. Having more common sense and greater reflexes than the common non-genetically enhanced cabbage. 1) I just killed 15 of your teammates from the same spot with you watching, then you came around the corner and prefired me! wallhacker! 2) (archaic) I alt-tabbed and you killed me, but you're still in spawn!

quick scope scripting - Verb. cl_autorezoom 0. 1) You came out of bunker and sniped me on the sandbags by the axis 2nd flag then ran back to bunker before I could even pull the trigger on my 42cal. I've seen the quick scope script before, cheater.

grenade exploits - Noun. Priming a rifle grenade or throwing an enemy grenade back and killing someone. 1) He's using grenade exploits! He just shot a rifle grenade at the corner I was hiding behind and it blew up instantly!

no recoil - Adjective. Control over the heavy recoil. 1) He just killed me with a support while standing up! He's got no recoil!

frightening our regulars - Adjective. Having played in CAL prior to season 8. 1) You were previously banned for "aimbot," however, due to your polite and professionally worded post on our forums, we have reviewed your ban and decided that there is no evidence that you use any hacks or exploits. However, you are above the typical skill level of many of our members and that is frightening our regulars away from our server, so we have decided that your ban will remain in place. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Lol, I got banned on over 30 clan servers on the original DoD because of being accused of hacking (never happened to me on DoD:S because I know the admins of the servers I play on). Now I don't know too much about CAL but that is competitive play right? If so congrats, you must be quite good at the game.

[sniperchick]

Lol, I got banned on over 30 clan servers on the original DoD because of being accused of hacking (never happened to me on DoD:S because I know the admins of the servers I play on). Now I don't know too much about CAL but that is competitive play right? If so congrats, you must be quite good at the game.

thanks :) but nah i'm actually pretty terrible, never got past lower cal main...i still get banned more than any of the top invite players for some reason though, i don't know why, i don't trash talk or break server rules, they just don't like me

[Ustwes R. Dewo]

Lol, I got banned on over 30 clan servers on the original DoD because of being accused of hacking (never happened to me on DoD:S because I know the admins of the servers I play on). Now I don't know too much about CAL but that is competitive play right? If so congrats, you must be quite good at the game.

stop inflating her ego.

I'm now looking directly at you and shaking my head slowly sniperchick.

Trying to remember if we ever played eachother; if not, making up stats where I beat you handidly

[sniperchick]

stop inflating her ego.

I'm now looking directly at you and shaking my head slowly sniperchick.

Trying to remember if we ever played eachother; if not, making up stats where I beat you handidly

aw i don't come to the steam forums to inflate my ego, that's why i pub, silly. i only come here to read coq's witty posts, too bad he's banned :( ~freecoq

[Matthias Vance]

For your information, I -am- running Day of Defeat: Source in windowed mode, noborder too, but it still crashes every x times I do that. (It just crashes at a random time when it's out of focus, or when activating the window again).

[Ustwes R. Dewo]

For your information, I -am- running Day of Defeat: Source in windowed mode, noborder too, but it still crashes every x times I do that. (It just crashes at a random time when it's out of focus, or when activating the window again).

Post your specs? DoD:S used to have major issues with ALT+TAB and crashing (among other hilarities), but I haven't heard much of it crashing on alt+tab lately

[Karva]

frightening our regulars - Adjective. Having played in CAL prior to season 8. 1) You were previously banned for "aimbot," however, due to your polite and professionally worded post on our forums, we have reviewed your ban and decided that there is no evidence that you use any hacks or exploits. However, you are above the typical skill level of many of our members and that is frightening our regulars away from our server, so we have decided that your ban will remain in place. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Oh wow.

I hope to be good enough one day to be accused of hacking.

[kirbeh]

Holy crap can we get an answer for an actual Dev? I know it was like $2.50 but cmon, did Valve actually just let the project die like this? Jesus H. Christ.

[Ustwes R. Dewo]

Holy crap can we get an answer for an actual Dev? I know it was like $2.50 but cmon, did Valve actually just let the project die like this? Jesus H. Christ.

You must be new here.

You wont get an answer from 'an actual dev'. You can file a bug report in game and upload your specs, but you almost certainly will not get a response. You can email matt yourself (the dev) - I've actually had some luck with that one.

However, if he does not immediately know the answer, it will do you no good, as he does not have the time to spend trying to figure it out.

And odds are he will not know the answer immediately.

[freakwave]

OK, ive got the same and it is quite annoying....
100% crash on win7/32bit

EDIT:
-noborder seems to be available ;)
minor performance loss though