Cheat detected.

[RavenDizzle]

So, I'm not going to go in depth in this. I just got kicked out of a game for cheat detected. I'm not going to go on a tangent and say "bla bla I dont hack this is bs ♥♥♥♥♥ bla". It's useless here. I just want the community to know my situation, and that I was once one of those people who thought "HA, you hacked, no matter what you say". Thats why I'm not going to sweat about it, or plead to get unbanned or plead that I don't hack. I already know I don't, so spare me the "yes you did, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥".

I have have a vac ban on my account now. An account I've had since 2007, that has thousands of dollars worth of games on it. I didn't hack, not that it matters.

I feel the pain of those who were screwed by the poor cheat detection in this game. I'm a fan of vac on CSS and other VALVE games, but this is nuts.

Here's what happened:
I was in game, running around nubbing with g18s (out of spite, because i ran into these g18 sherrifs guys). A friend joined Teamspeak 3, and WHAM, a split second after, I was kicked, the game froze for a second, than I got "cheat detected". So I restart the game, thinking "ok, I'll try again, cause this has to be some sort of mistake". A console-like window opens up, with an error saying "cheat detected".

I was running the following programs:
Google Chrome
Pidgin
Teamspeak 3
X-Fire
Steam (obviously)
Skype


My Hijack this log (minus MW2, as its closed):
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\rundll32.exe
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\HsMgr.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\NEC Electronics\USB 3.0 Host Controller Driver\Application\nusb3mon.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Plugin Manager\skypePM.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Appli cation\chrome.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\Pidgin\pidgin.exe
T:\The Library\Misc Software\Security & Maintenance\HiJackThis\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = C:\Windows\SysWOW64\blank.htm
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Int ernet Settings,ProxyOverride = *.local
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=userinit.exe
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Link Helper - {18DF081C-E8AD-4283-A596-FA578C2EBDC3} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelperShim.dll
O2 - BHO: flashget urlcatch - {2F364306-AA45-47B5-9F9D-39A8B94E7EF7} - C:\Program Files (x86)\FlashGet\jccatch.dll
O2 - BHO: Groove GFS Browser Helper - {72853161-30C5-4D22-B7F9-0BBC1D38A37E} - C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~4\Office14\GROOVEEX.DLL
O2 - BHO: Windows Live Sign-in Helper - {9030D464-4C02-4ABF-8ECC-5164760863C6} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WindowsLiveLogin.dll
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Conversion Toolbar Helper - {AE7CD045-E861-484f-8273-0445EE161910} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEFavClient.dll
O2 - BHO: SkypeIEPluginBHO - {AE805869-2E5C-4ED4-8F7B-F1F7851A4497} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Toolbars\Internet Explorer\skypeieplugin.dll
O2 - BHO: URLRedirectionBHO - {B4F3A835-0E21-4959-BA22-42B3008E02FF} - C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~4\Office14\URLREDIR.DLL
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9C25C1C588A9} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\jp2ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: FlashGet GetFlash Class - {F156768E-81EF-470C-9057-481BA8380DBA} - C:\Program Files (x86)\FlashGet\getflash.dll
O2 - BHO: SmartSelect - {F4971EE7-DAA0-4053-9964-665D8EE6A077} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEFavClient.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Adobe PDF - {47833539-D0C5-4125-9FA8-0819E2EAAC93} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEFavClient.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [JMB36X IDE Setup] C:\Windows\RaidTool\xInsIDE.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NUSB3MON] "C:\Program Files (x86)\NEC Electronics\USB 3.0 Host Controller Driver\Application\nusb3mon.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exe"
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /autoRun (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\RunOnce: [mctadmin] C:\Windows\System32\mctadmin.exe (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /autoRun (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\RunOnce: [mctadmin] C:\Windows\System32\mctadmin.exe (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Download All with FlashGet - C:\Program Files (x86)\FlashGet\jc_all.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Download with FlashGet - C:\Program Files (x86)\FlashGet\jc_link.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Add to Google Photos Screensa&ver - res://C:\Windows\system32\GPhotos.scr/200
O8 - Extra context menu item: Append to existing PDF - res://C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIEAppend.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert link target to Adobe PDF - res://C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIECaptureSelLinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert link target to existing PDF - res://C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIEAppendSelLinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert to Adobe PDF - res://C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIECapture.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~4\Office14\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: Free YouTube Download - C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Roaming\DVDVideoSoftIEHel pers\youtubedownload.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Free YouTube to Mp3 Converter - C:\Users\Derrick\AppData\Roaming\DVDVideoSoftIEHel pers\youtubetomp3.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Se&nd to OneNote - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~4\Office14\ONBttnIE.dll/105
O9 - Extra button: Blog This - {219C3416-8CB2-491a-A3C7-D9FCDDC9D600} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Writer\WriterBrowserExtension.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: &Blog This in Windows Live Writer - {219C3416-8CB2-491a-A3C7-D9FCDDC9D600} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Writer\WriterBrowserExtension.dll
O9 - Extra button: Send to OneNote - {2670000A-7350-4f3c-8081-5663EE0C6C49} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Office14\ONBttnIE.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Se&nd to OneNote - {2670000A-7350-4f3c-8081-5663EE0C6C49} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Office14\ONBttnIE.dll
O9 - Extra button: OneNote Lin&ked Notes - {789FE86F-6FC4-46A1-9849-EDE0DB0C95CA} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Office14\ONBttnIELinkedNotes.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: OneNote Lin&ked Notes - {789FE86F-6FC4-46A1-9849-EDE0DB0C95CA} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Office14\ONBttnIELinkedNotes.dll
O9 - Extra button: Skype add-on for Internet Explorer - {898EA8C8-E7FF-479B-8935-AEC46303B9E5} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Toolbars\Internet Explorer\skypeieplugin.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Skype add-on for Internet Explorer - {898EA8C8-E7FF-479B-8935-AEC46303B9E5} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Toolbars\Internet Explorer\skypeieplugin.dll
O9 - Extra button: FlashGet - {D6E814A0-E0C5-11d4-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - C:\Program Files (x86)\FlashGet\FlashGet.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: FlashGet - {D6E814A0-E0C5-11d4-8D29-0050BA6940E3} - C:\Program Files (x86)\FlashGet\FlashGet.exe
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files (x86)\vmware\vmware workstation\vsocklib.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files (x86)\vmware\vmware workstation\vsocklib.dll
O13 - Gopher Prefix:
O18 - Protocol: skype-ie-addon-data - {91774881-D725-4E58-B298-07617B9B86A8} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Toolbars\Internet Explorer\skypeieplugin.dll
O18 - Protocol: skype4com - {FFC8B962-9B40-4DFF-9458-1830C7DD7F5D} - C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\Skype\SKYPE4~1.DLL
O18 - Filter hijack: text/xml - {807573E5-5146-11D5-A672-00B0D022E945} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\OFFICE14\MSOXMLMF.DLL
O20 - AppInit_DLLs: acaptuser32.dll
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\Alg.exe,-112 (ALG) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\alg.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: AMD External Events Utility - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\atiesrxx.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: AODService - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD\OverDrive\AODAssist.exe
O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\efssvc.dll,-100 (EFS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\fxsresm.dll,-118 (Fax) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\fxssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: FLEXnet Licensing Manager for Adobe Products (FLEXnet Licensing Manager) - - C:\Windows\system\regsrv.exe
O23 - Service: FLEXnet Licensing Service - Macrovision Europe Ltd. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Macrovision Shared\FLEXnet Publisher\FNPLicensingService.exe
O23 - Service: Google Updater Service (gusvc) - Google - C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: @keyiso.dll,-100 (KeyIso) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: MBAMService - Malwarebytes Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamservice.exe
O23 - Service: @comres.dll,-2797 (MSDTC) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\msdtc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\netlogon.dll,-102 (Netlogon) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: PnkBstrA - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\PnkBstrA.exe
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\psbase.dll,-300 (ProtectedStorage) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\Locator.exe,-2 (RpcLocator) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\locator.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\samsrv.dll,-1 (SamSs) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\snmptrap.exe,-3 (SNMPTRAP) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\snmptrap.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\spoolsv.exe,-1 (Spooler) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\spoolsv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\sppsvc.exe,-101 (sppsvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\sppsvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Steam Client Service - Valve Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Steam\SteamService.exe
O23 - Service: Adobe SwitchBoard (SwitchBoard) - Adobe Systems Incorporated - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\SwitchBoard\SwitchBoard.exe
O23 - Service: TeamViewer 5 (TeamViewer5) - TeamViewer GmbH - C:\Program Files (x86)\TeamViewer\Version5\TeamViewer_Service.exe
O23 - Service: VMware Agent Service (ufad-ws60) - VMware, Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\VMware\VMware Workstation\vmware-ufad.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\ui0detect.exe,-101 (UI0Detect) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\UI0Detect.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vaultsvc.dll,-1003 (VaultSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vds.exe,-100 (vds) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\vds.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: VMware Authorization Service (VMAuthdService) - VMware, Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\VMware\VMware Workstation\vmware-authd.exe
O23 - Service: VMware DHCP Service (VMnetDHCP) - VMware, Inc. - C:\Windows\system32\vmnetdhcp.exe
O23 - Service: VMware USB Arbitration Service (VMUSBArbService) - VMware, Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VMware\USB\vmware-usbarbitrator.exe
O23 - Service: VMware NAT Service - VMware, Inc. - C:\Windows\system32\vmnat.exe
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\vssvc.exe,-102 (VSS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\vssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\Wat\WatUX.exe,-601 (WatAdminSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\Wat\WatAdminSvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\wbengine.exe,-104 (wbengine) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbengine.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%Systemroot%\system32\wbem\wmiapsrv.exe,-110 (wmiApSrv) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbem\WmiApSrv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe,-101 (WMPNetworkSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe (file missing)

I've never modified my game files, for the very reason that my steam account has so much on it, and didn't want to risk it. I JUST prestiged into lvl 9 prestige today, and I got this...so I'm all wtfing.

I never had this trouble with punkbuster, a far superior anticheat (for non valve games, that is).

This doesn't affect other games, does it?

I'm showing you this because I think maybe it can be figured out why VAC is doing this to people. I'm not here to scream "I DONT HACK". However, I will say that I spent 60$ on this game RETAIL, another 30 on the DLC (for me AND my clanmates), so about 400$ on this game in total. I'll never buy another non-valve game that has VAC.

All that, I can live with. None of that bothers me. I would be better off not playing MW2 anyway, due to the real hackers, the tubes, and akimbo etc. All the raging I do, im better off. It's the fact that when people look at my account now, I have a ban on record. That pisses me off, especially since it's no fault of my own. Valve really needs to look into this, it's not a coincidence that its happening to all these people.

[Fahrenheit 451]

If you did not cheat then you had your account stolen. Unfortunate yes, forgivable (by VAC) no. If you got banned, then cheats were ran on your account. If YOU did not run the cheats, someone ELSE did. If someone ELSE did, then, if you really have thousands of dollars spent on your account, you really need to change your password and change the e-mail associated with it.

EDIT: VAC does not ban on false positives. When VAC bans you, it is 100% sure cheats were run on your account. It is also 100% sure you will not be unbanned even if your account was hacked because you have no way of proving your account was hacked.

[WickitWonka]

VAC is having some issue, it's obvious. It's funny when people say VAC is flawless, what gives Valve the perfect formula for making something perfect? It's impossible to have something completely perfect.

[Fahrenheit 451]

You're shallow. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. However, I expected this reaction. Just know, to all the mature and civil non-children on this forum, I made this post for informative purposes. I don't care either way.

IAM is slightly right but he stated it in a very immature way. He will never be banned as long as no cheats are run on his account and that is a matter of having a strong password.

[kyono]

See, now after reading this post I'm actually wondering if VAC IS banning non cheaters...

[frankpolyn64]

You cheated, you got what u deserved.

And u only got banned for mw2, so your steam games still work.

[RavenDizzle]

IAM is slightly right but he stated it in a very immature way. He will never be banned as long as no cheats are run on his account and that is a matter of having a strong password.

The stalemate here is, I didn't run any cheats. So there's obviously something in my Hijack this log that can trigger it, problem is, I have no idea how to read a hijack this log:/ Either way, I'm not going to ask the community to believe me, I just ask that you all be civil instead of pointing fingers like immature little children. VAC clearly isn't perfect.

[frankpolyn64]

See, now after reading this post I'm actually wondering if VAC IS banning non cheaters...

That's what he wants you to think.

[RavenDizzle]

You cheated, you got what u deserved.

And u only got banned for mw2, so your steam games still work.

No. Just no. It's becoming more and more frequent that people are randomly getting cheat detected for no reason. My theories include the possibility of hacked servers (which appear to be legit ie with no game altering mods, just with a server admin), where the admin vac bans you. I bet there is a way to unlock the console and manipulate VAC in MW2, but I don't have the knowledge to check on anything like that.

[frankpolyn64]

The stalemate here is, I didn't run any cheats. So there's obviously something in my Hijack this log that can trigger it, problem is, I have no idea how to read a hijack this log:/ Either way, I'm not going to ask the community to believe me, I just ask that you all be civil instead of pointing fingers like immature little children. VAC clearly isn't perfect.

You injected a .dll into your iw4mp.exe file, so u got banned

/thread

[RavenDizzle]

That's what he wants you to think.

If you're going to troll, go back under your bridge. I posted this topic for information purposes. When it happens to you, I'll be laughing.

What gets to me is I see actual cheaters, and RANK HACKERS not get banned. THAT sucks.

[RavenDizzle]

You injected a .dll into your iw4mp.exe file, so u got banned

/thread

Actually, I didn't. You seem to know an awful lot about it though. Why is it these children keep trolling me? I simply posted information on what might trigger false VAC bans in MW2. Don't you think it's a little bit funny that you don't see these kinds of complaints on L4D/L4D2 CS/CSS forums? The VAC implementation in MW2 has to be flawed some how. It's IMPOSSIBLE for it to be perfect.

[ZeroSlayerX]

Thank GOD im not the only one that happened like this... I was playing a game with a few of my friends and i use UMP45 and RPG as soon as the game was over my friend invited me to his party then my screen went black and said Cheat Detected. I only had Internet Explorer 8 open download something from MegaUpload. I DID have a mw2sa running which allows me to kick people but did not tamper with how i played. VAC is disgusting and i wish we had dedicated servers with PunkBuster

[kyono]

The stalemate here is, I didn't run any cheats. So there's obviously something in my Hijack this log that can trigger it, problem is, I have no idea how to read a hijack this log:/ Either way, I'm not going to ask the community to believe me, I just ask that you all be civil instead of pointing fingers like immature little children. VAC clearly isn't perfect.

If you DID cheat then I'm not going to show any sympathy for you. You seem like a very civilised person though Derrick, the sort who wouldn't be ignorant enough to use cheats, and I'm actually starting to wonder about all of these bans that are going out and if some of them are unjust bans.

Nothing I can do to ever prove it though, you'll have to take it up with Valve.

And if you WEREN'T cheating, then I hope they unban you.

[RavenDizzle]

If you DID cheat then I'm not going to show any sympathy for you. You seem like a very civilised person though Derrick, the sort who wouldn't be ignorant enough to use cheats, and I'm actually starting to wonder about all of these bans that are going out and if some of them are unjust bans.

Nothing I can do to ever prove it though, you'll have to take it up with Valve.

And if you WEREN'T cheating, then I hope they unban you.

Thank you for your maturity. I can say with full confidence that I didn't cheat. I don't see any point in wasting my time taking it up with valve. Like I said, the only thing that bugs me is there's an unjust ban now on my record, and it kind of sucks...whats more, trolls on the forums. All I'm trying to do is provide some information so that maybe this won't happen to anyone else.

[Fahrenheit 451]

The stalemate here is, I didn't run any cheats. So there's obviously something in my Hijack this log that can trigger it, problem is, I have no idea how to read a hijack this log:/ Either way, I'm not going to ask the community to believe me, I just ask that you all be civil instead of pointing fingers like immature little children. VAC clearly isn't perfect.

VAC does not detect program that are not cheats. It CAN'T, it really is unable, by design, to do so. If you get banned, cheats were run on your account. That does not mean you ran them, but your account is your responsibility. You won't be unbanned.

[RavenDizzle]

Wait a second. Could a modified config file do it? I did do that, not with an editor, though. I enabled the flash nade indicator, made it so the bars are 10, and made the intervals 20. I also enabled the lag-o-meter. They shouldn't allow you to freely edit the file if it could get you banned:\ Than again I really don't know.

[goc]

bravo for OP, +1 rep ... my case also. i play something else now , far much better.

and don't worry about narrow minded wannabe gamers replying to your post in not so fashionable manner :-)

[RavenDizzle]

VAC does not detect program that are not cheats. It CAN'T, it really is unable, by design, to do so. If you get banned, cheats were run on your account. That does not mean you ran them, but your account is your responsibility. You won't be unbanned.

Don't remember asking to be unbanned. I do need to tell you how oblivious you clearly are though. You don't think it's a bit weird that more and more people are having this happen to them? And that all of them have the same story? If you honestly thing VAC is perfect (which I believe it to be, in CSS and other VALVE games), you're clearly oblivious.

[Fahrenheit 451]

Wait a second. Could a modified config file do it? I did do that, not with an editor, though. I enabled the flash nade indicator, made it so the bars are 10, and made the intervals 20. I also enabled the lag-o-meter. They shouldn't allow you to freely edit the file if it could get you banned:\ Than again I really don't know.

NO, nope, uh uh, nononononono. If they could, we would ALL be banned for changing our keyboard layouts.

I am sorry to say this again but it seems like you don't understand, VAC only bans for cheats. Unless it modifies the exe file of the game (which I guarantee you, unless it is a hack, it won't do) or is a detected cheat, VAC CANNOT ban you.

EDIT: Awesome, my 451st post!

[DylanCND]

Wait a second. Could a modified config file do it? I did do that, not with an editor, though. I enabled the flash nade indicator, made it so the bars are 10, and made the intervals 20. I also enabled the lag-o-meter. They shouldn't allow you to freely edit the file if it could get you banned:\ Than again I really don't know.

Config files don't get you banned. I made the bar and interval change probably the first month the game was out.
The problem VAC would have is what constitutes a valid config change? Remapping a key, changing video settings, those things change your config. Nothing that could give you an advantage other people couldn't have is kept in the config. The people saying config changes/hacked servers cause bans are just grasping at straws.

[Karr-Man]

I don't see any point in wasting my time taking it up with valve.

u see thats the kind of thing which would make people think u DID cheat...

valve will have a record of exactly why u were banned and if, as you believe, something in your hijack this file got you banned then taking it to steam support would most likely get you unbanned.

the only reason i can see that someone wouldnt do this is because they know that valves records will show exactly which hack you used and when and valve would tell you where to go...


i know if i was in your position and knew i hadnt cheated valve would be my 1st port of call

[RavenDizzle]

NO, nope, uh uh, nononononono. If they could, we would ALL be banned for changing our keyboard layouts.

I am sorry to say this again but it seems like you don't understand, VAC only bans for cheats. Unless it modifies the exe file of the game (which I guarantee you, unless it is a hack, it won't do) or is a detected cheat, VAC CANNOT ban you.

And you know this how? Because you're a developer at Valve or Infinity Ward? I used to be just like you, I used to say the same thing up until about an hour ago when I was kicked abruptly from a game for cheat detected, despite the fact that there were no cheats. I'm just throwing ideas out here, because whether you want to believe it in your little world where VAC is perfect, the MW2 implementation of VAC has flaws. It's clear that hacked server admins can manipulate the VAC system in MW2. Quit being oblivious.

[schnitzeljaeger]

VAC does not detect program that are not cheats. It CAN'T, it really is unable, by design, to do so. If you get banned, cheats were run on your account. That does not mean you ran them, but your account is your responsibility. You won't be unbanned.

This is what Valve says and you don't know if it's true ;-) As far as I know VAC works by detecting fingerprints from parts of the cheat in ram. Maybe a certain combination of programs running in the background or something like that triggered Vac because the fingerprint turned out to NOT be unique!

[RavenDizzle]

u see thats the kind of thing which would make people think u DID cheat...

valve will have a record of exactly why u were banned and if, as you believe, something in your hijack this file got you banned then taking it to steam support would most likely get you unbanned.

the only reason i can see that someone wouldnt do this is because they know that valves records will show exactly which hack you used and when and valve would tell you where to go...


i know if i was in your position and knew i hadnt cheated valve would be my 1st port of call

The reason I don't see a point is because I know VAC bans are permanent. I clicked the "more info link". They can't do anything about it. Unless you think there's a worthwhile road for me to take, it's not out of guilt, it's out of acceptance.

[Fahrenheit 451]

The reason I don't see a point is because I know VAC bans are permanent. I clicked the "more info link". They can't do anything about it. Unless you think there's a worthwhile road for me to take, it's not out of guilt, it's out of acceptance.

Well, if you really did not cheat, you would KNOW that you would get un-banned. However, the reason VAC never unbans anyone is because EVERYONE (in the past 4 years) who has been banned has had a cheat used on his account.

[RavenDizzle]

Well, if you really did not cheat, you would KNOW that you would get un-banned. However, the reason VAC never unbans anyone is because EVERYONE (in the past 4 years) who has been banned has had a cheat used on his account.

Wait...I could get unbanned? Cause on the support page, it said permanent and that it couldn't be removed? Where does it say anything otherwise? and where do I plead my case?

[Karr-Man]

The reason I don't see a point is because I know VAC bans are permanent. I clicked the "more info link". They can't do anything about it. Unless you think there's a worthwhile road for me to take, it's not out of guilt, it's out of acceptance.

there was an incident that i remember reading about with the original vac (this is vac2) where there was a false positive... valve publicly admitted it and reversed the bans. dont have a link for it im afraid and it was about 5 years ago i read it (when vac2 was released)

[schnitzeljaeger]

Well, if you really did not cheat, you would KNOW that you would get un-banned. However, the reason VAC never unbans anyone is because EVERYONE (in the past 4 years) who has been banned has had a cheat used on his account.

Only people that could really prove they didn't cheat got unbanned, you did cheat.

NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT

These kind of threads feed my happiness, keep em coming !

Nobody has been unbanned because Valve simply doesn't do it! As long as they think their beautiful VAC is infallible they won't...

[davep]

Why would you post this? No one cares, Valve won't see this and say "oh poor guy we should unban him.". If they even happen to come across this thread they won't give a ♥♥♥♥. Best thing you can do is not post and if there was a problem with VAC it will get solved, if there isn't a problem then you either cheated or your account was compromised and someone cheated with it. There has been a lot of people that have been infected with phishing viruses that spread throughout the friends network.

Also why in Gods name would anyone spend $400 on this ♥♥♥♥ty game?

[davep]

Nobody has been unbanned because Valve simply doesn't do it! As long as they think their beautiful VAC is infallible they won't...

Not true, there's has been times where Valve has unbanned groups of people who were falsely banned because they caught in error in how VAC banned people. If there was an error they will catch it and people will be unbanned, until then there's nothing anyone can do. Complaining or posting on the forums won't speed up the process.

[schnitzeljaeger]

Not true, there's has been times where Valve has unbanned groups of people who were falsely banned because they caught in error in how VAC banned people. If there was an error they will catch it and people will be unbanned, until then there's nothing anyone can do. Complaining or posting on the forums won't speed up the process.

That was in the times of VAC1. As far as I know this did not happen since VAC2 was introduced!

[rovanrak]

That was in the times of VAC1. As far as I know this did not happen since VAC2 was introduced!

Because VAC2 hasn't made the types of errors VAC1 made.

[RavenDizzle]

Because VAC2 hasn't made the types of errors VAC1 made.

Yes, but its quite evident that VAC's MW2 implementation is heavily flawed. I mean, it has to be if it can be completely disabled.

[nosphoenix]

got the same error..
and i didnt hack!
i never did!
and if i did i want proof
i wanna see a vid or something!
i never hacked!

[praetorian42]

Don't forget what ever caused the ban could have happened who knows how many days before you actually received the ban. So you'd have to find out when the detection event occurred before you could question what was running at the time.

[schnitzeljaeger]

Because VAC2 hasn't made the types of errors VAC1 made.

You know VAC2 made no errors? Do you have a magic bead or something of the like? ;-) As long as Valve doesn't PROOF that their software works as intended I won't believe half of anything they say.

It's the same with all those "unbreakable" and safe softwares which suddenly overflow with security holes.

[rovanrak]

You know VAC2 made no errors? Do you have a magic bead or something of the like? ;-) As long as Valve doesn't PROOF that their software works as intended I won't believe half of anything they say.

It's the same with all those "unbreakable" and safe softwares which suddenly overflow with security holes.

Until your prove you never cheated I won't believe anything you say.

[Karr-Man]

Yes, but its quite evident that VAC's MW2 implementation is heavily flawed. I mean, it has to be if it can be completely disabled.

thats not a problem with vac its a problem with mw2

ie. the game does not check and enforce that vac is running

nothing to do with false positive bans or anything of the like

[RavenDizzle]

Don't forget what ever caused the ban could have happened who knows how many days before you actually received the ban. So you'd have to find out when the detection event occurred before you could question what was running at the time.

The problem with this is, there's no way to tell, since I've never had anything that should have triggered it, rest assured any hacks.

[RavenDizzle]

thats not a problem with vac its a problem with mw2

ie. the game does not check and enforce that vac is running

nothing to do with false positive bans or anything of the like

True. Thats why I said VACs MW2 implementation. The version of VAC, and the way it was implemented in MW2 is flawed. I still believe anybody who can unlock the console can manipulate it and vac ban people from MW2 themselves.

[Fahrenheit 451]

You know VAC2 made no errors? Do you have a magic bead or something of the like? ;-) As long as Valve doesn't PROOF that their software works as intended I won't believe half of anything they say.

It's the same with all those "unbreakable" and safe softwares which suddenly overflow with security holes.

Instead, you will believe all the hackers who say VAC makes mistakes.

That is your choice: You either believe VALVe who is a large company required to follow all laws, or you believe the random people who got banned by VAC, and yet still say they did not cheat.

EDIT: Yes, VAC has security holes. That, however, does not mean at all that it makes mistakes when it bans.

[Karr-Man]

True. Thats why I said VACs MW2 implementation. The version of VAC, and the way it was implemented in MW2 is flawed. I still believe anybody who can unlock the console can manipulate it and vac ban people from MW2 themselves.

u can believe it if u like, personally i dont think its a viable premise, and i say that as someone with a number of industry certifications for networking and security.

[RavenDizzle]

Until your prove you never cheated I won't believe anything you say.

The flaw in your logic is there's no way to prove it because Valve, for some OUTRAGES reason, doesn't think releasing the details of a VAC ban should be done. I think it should in some cases.

So, here's the formula:

Person gets Vac banned (unfairly or not).

Person asks valve why.

Valve says none of your business, our anticheat is perfect.

Person says "If its perfect, than you have nothing to hide"

Valve says "Leggo my eggos"

Everyone believes valve, even with valve lacking evidence...or not presenting evidence.

[Fahrenheit 451]

True. Thats why I said VACs MW2 implementation. The version of VAC, and the way it was implemented in MW2 is flawed. I still believe anybody who can unlock the console can manipulate it and vac ban people from MW2 themselves.

I guess common sense does not have to influence your belief. Can you get people banned with the console in other games? How is the MW2 console different? it has become obvious you got banned for cheating and you just came here to try and get your cheating rear cleared.

[RavenDizzle]

u can believe it if u like, personally i dont think its a viable premise, and i say that as someone with a number of industry certifications for networking and security.

If you have any certifications at all, you'd at least have common sense as well to realize that if an anti cheat can be completely disabled, than there has to be a way to manipulate it. If it can be disabled, that means the program files are local, ergo they can be modified and manipulated.

[schnitzeljaeger]

Until your prove you never cheated I won't believe anything you say.

Come on, use your brain. Valve releases VAC2, they say it works perfectly and you stand 100% behind them without knowing anything about it?! No skepticism at all?

The flaw in your logic is there's no way to prove it because Valve, for some OUTRAGES reason, doesn't think releasing the details of a VAC ban should be done. I think it should in some cases.

So, here's the formula:

Person gets Vac banned (unfairly or not).

Person asks valve why.

Valve says none of your business, our anticheat is perfect.

Person says "If its perfect, than you have nothing to hide"

Valve says "Leggo my eggos"

Everyone believes valve, even with valve lacking evidence...or not presenting evidence.

exactly!

[rovanrak]

The flaw in your logic is there's no way to prove it because Valve, for some OUTRAGES reason, doesn't think releasing the details of a VAC ban should be done. I think it should in some cases.

So, here's the formula:

Person gets Vac banned (unfairly or not).

Person asks valve why.

Valve says none of your business, our anticheat is perfect.

Person says "If its perfect, than you have nothing to hide"

Valve says "Leggo my eggos"

Everyone believes valve, even with valve lacking evidence...or not presenting evidence.

So you want Valve to tell cheaters which cheat got them banned and at what time? Why not just send out a newsletter every time they update VAC so cheaters can wait for a new version off their preferred cheat?

[RavenDizzle]

I guess common sense does not have to influence your belief. Can you get people banned with the console in other games? How is the MW2 console different? it has become obvious you got banned for cheating and you just came here to try and get your cheating rear cleared.

How has it become obvious? Because you said it has? Because VAC says I'm banned, with no evidence? I came here to provide info, and the majority of you are trolling me.

[praetorian42]

Yeah, that's exactly what it's intended to do. I doubt they'll tell you if you contact valve. I think they just say something along the lines of "yes, this was a valid ban."

I'm kinda on your side dude, I had a thread about how my account was hijacked over a year ago, no idea how it happened. All the signs kept coming back to keylogger, but in the year since nothing has ever been found by malwarebytes or mcafee.

[StormX]

OP, if it makes you feel any better and you truly did not hack, I become victim to the same thing. It's no use trying to argue innocence here. I don't blame the people who are saying we have cheated as I despise cheaters myself. I've pretty much lost all of the little hope I had to begin with now. Unfortunately, the only avenue to take with this situation is to contact Steam support, but they can't do anything regarding ban lifting anyway. It's just something you are going to have to accept, like a speeding ticket, late fee, etc. even if it is undeserving.

[Karr-Man]

If you have any certifications at all, you'd at least have common sense as well to realize that if an anti cheat can be completely disabled, than there has to be a way to manipulate it. If it can be disabled, that means the program files are local, ergo they can be modified and manipulated.

thats not the situation at all... the program mw2 does not require vac to be running in order to work... that in no way implies that somehow vac is able to be manipulated from mw2.. they are 2 separate entities.

you logic is totally flawed my friend

[Fahrenheit 451]

How has it become obvious? Because you said it has? Because VAC says I'm banned, with no evidence? I came here to provide info, and the majority of you are trolling me.

There is a difference between trolling and simply not sympathizing. Not many people with sympathize with someone who is responsible for helping ruin their gaming experience. Whether it was you, or someone on your account, that is one less cheater we have to deal with. I think you can understand that.

[TheWarfox]

Raven just ignore the haters that troll the forums wanting to say "you were banned so you must have hacked"

I have heard of this happening to a few other people (one of which I know would never risk hacking even thoug he could) All I can say is good luck with other games.


REMEMBER, DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

[RavenDizzle]

Well, my only concern here is, given the amount of money invested in my steam account, can I still buy new games on it and not having to worry about being banned from those?

inb4ifyoudonthackagain, because I never cheated.

[ZeroSlayerX]

Yea VAC sucks i was playing a match after watching a movie and as the game ended it said Cheat Detected. but there nothing i can do about except wiat and see if my tickets worked

[RavenDizzle]

There is a difference between trolling and simply not sympathizing. Not many people with sympathize with someone who is responsible for helping ruin their gaming experience. Whether it was you, or someone on your account, that is one less cheater we have to deal with. I think you can understand that.

I can understand not wanting to play with cheaters, the problem here is, you're all bending over backwards to defend VAC, when you have zero info on vac yourself other than "Vac is never wrong". Well, nothing is perfect.

[DylanCND]

Well, my only concern here is, given the amount of money invested in my steam account, can I still buy new games on it and not having to worry about being banned from those?

inb4ifyoudonthackagain, because I never cheated.

The ban only affects MW2, any other current or future games on the account wont be affected. The only caveat on that is you can't add a new MW2 to that account again, it'll be auto banned.

[RavenDizzle]

The ban only affects MW2, any other current or future games on the account wont be affected. The only caveat on that is you can't add a new MW2 to that account again, it'll be auto banned.

I really wouldn't spend another cent on a game that has such a flawed anti-cheat. I'm sure you understand, lol.

[rovanrak]

I really wouldn't spend another cent on a game that has such a flawed anti-cheat. I'm sure you understand, lol.

We don't care. Leave. Never come back.

At the end of the day we will lose no sleep over what happened to you.

[Fahrenheit 451]

I can understand not wanting to play with cheaters, the problem here is, you're all bending over backwards to defend VAC, when you have zero info on vac yourself other than "Vac is never wrong". Well, nothing is perfect.

But here it what is comes down to. Believe you, or believe VALVe. I have no reason not to believe VALVe is telling the truth and I have every reason to believe you are lying. Don't ask me to go against my common sense. Go try and convince someone without it.

[Fatfinger]

VAC is delay ban so the program running while you got banned means nothing.
Did you create another steam account using cheats while free weekend for MW2?
Did you EVER ran hacks in other games which might raise detection by VAC?
You must did something not allowed by VAC.
When you bought any game from steam, read the term, VAC does not need to give any reason. It's useless to post here and you would just catch trolling.
Format your hard drive and buy a new game in another steam account and do not install any unknown software download on line, including paid hacks.

I don't think VAC will give you any info regarding ban, it will just leak info for what method VAC is using to catch hacks.

[BlackRaven]

ravendizzle open a support ticket instead of annoying us on the forum. no one cares until you get proof.

[RavenDizzle]

ravendizzle open a support ticket instead of annoying us on the forum. no one cares until you get proof.

You see? Another flawed statement. How is it I can get proof if Valve refuses to release ban details to those who were banned? It's fail fail.

[rovanrak]

You see? Another flawed statement. How is it I can get proof if Valve refuses to release ban details to those who were banned? It's fail fail.

File a lawsuit against Valve and force them to disclose the information you want.

[RavenDizzle]

File a lawsuit against Valve and force them to disclose the information you want.

Yeah, that will help. Lawsuit to get unbanned from a game. Why spend thousands on a lawyer when I could spend thousands on getting a new steam account with new games? See the flaw in that logic?

People telling me to prove it, yet knowing that's impossible. Stop trolling.

[BlackRaven]

You see? Another flawed statement. How is it I can get proof if Valve refuses to release ban details to those who were banned? It's fail fail.
They wont give you the details if you cheated but that doesnt mean they dont have logs. They can check the ban records to see what hack you used and they can run an internal investigation and they probably will if they receive a high amount of complaints about false positives.

Valve never said VAC doesnt make mistakes, that BS was made up by fan boys on the forums.

I edited my config too, I played on hacked servers but never hosted one myself and Im not banned. Until you get proof you got banned for doing nothing, you will be rightfully considered a cheater.

[Karr-Man]

You see? Another flawed statement. How is it I can get proof if Valve refuses to release ban details to those who were banned? It's fail fail.

your proof would be when you came back here with an overturned ban.

you have been told by multiple posters here that valve have previously admitted when vac had failings and reversed the bans, yet somehow you seem sure that in your case they will not overturn the ban...

u know what? im pretty sure i know why you feel that way :)

anyway, good luck with it, got a feeling u will need it....

[RavenDizzle]

your proof would be when you came back here with an overturned ban.

you have been told by multiple posters here that valve have previously admitted when vac had failings and reversed the bans, yet somehow you seem sure that in your case they will not overturn the ban...

u know what? im pretty sure i know why you feel that way :)

anyway, good luck with it, got a feeling u will need it....

You know what? Shove that "you hack" bs up your ♥♥♥. I didn't. I did submit a support ticket, and according to steam support, its very slim I'll get unbanned at all. Legit or not. However, if I do, I'll be sure to come here and deliver a big ♥♥♥♥ YOU to you trolls.

[giggityjeeper]

VAC is delay ban so the program running while you got banned means nothing.
Did you create another steam account using cheats while free weekend for MW2?
Did you EVER ran hacks in other games which might raise detection by VAC?
You must did something not allowed by VAC.
When you bought any game from steam, read the term, VAC does not need to give any reason. It's useless to post here and you would just catch trolling.
Format your hard drive and buy a new game in another steam account and do not install any unknown software download on line, including paid hacks.

I don't think VAC will give you any info regarding ban, it will just leak info for what method VAC is using to catch hacks.


Im leaning toward these, after reading several post of I did not hack and got banned, Im thining we had a few freee weekends and I distinctly remember reading threads on here of ppl who opened new accounts JUST to hack, well those hacks are still on you PC unles you formatted and reinstalled and completey wiped your HD... SO... Im leaning toward this...

I have used MW2SA whateve rit is
I use the ping bar system..
I played alien storm..
been in tons of hacked servers..

none of these triggered a ban on me.. so to those who said that is what did it.. NOPE.. try another

think hard now when did you put the hacks on, and di you format when you removed them....?

[UncleMeat]

I really don't know what to think.

[RavenDizzle]

They wont give you the details if you cheated but that doesnt mean they dont have logs. They can check the ban records to see what hack you used and they can run an internal investigation and they probably will if they receive a high amount of complaints about false positives.

Valve never said VAC doesnt make mistakes, that BS was made up by airconditioned youths on the forums.

I edited my config too, I played on hacked servers but never hosted one myself and Im not banned. Until you get proof you got banned for doing nothing, you will be rightfully considered a cheater.

Nothing "rightful" about it. Innocent until PROVEN guilty, and so far, Valve has provided just as much evidence as I have. The problem is, they have MY evidence, I have none.

[Karr-Man]

You know what? Shove that "you hack" bs up your ♥♥♥. I didn't. I did submit a support ticket, and according to steam support, its very slim I'll get unbanned at all. Legit or not. However, if I do, I'll be sure to come here and deliver a big ♥♥♥♥ YOU to you trolls.

<3 u 2 :D

[RavenDizzle]

I never participated in free weekends. In fact, i didn't play during those at all, simply BECAUSE of the hackers. I've also never been banned from any other game, or hacked in any other game.

Speaking of other games, since VAC is always right, why would it detect a hack in ANOTHER game and ban me in MW2? Makes perfect sense, but also shows how you're contradicting yourself.

[davep]

That was in the times of VAC1. As far as I know this did not happen since VAC2 was introduced!

I'm pretty sure it has happened with VAC2.

[BroflMouth]

Finally, somebody who talks about this issue without ranting and threatening to sue Valve. Message Steam support, they probably won't do anything but it is worth a shot.

[RavenDizzle]

What's funny here is, the numbers of people being unjustly banned are growing at a ridiculously fast rate. If Valve is as competent as I think they are, they'll wake their asses up sooner or later and fix this issue, which is clearly a VAC issue. When that happens, I'll be here to watch some of these trolls try to pry their foot out of their mouths, and put a bandaid on their ego.

[BroflMouth]

What's funny here is, the numbers of people being unjustly banned are growing at a ridiculously fast rate. If Valve is as competent as I think they are, they'll wake their asses up sooner or later and fix this issue, which is clearly a VAC issue. When that happens, I'll be here to watch some of these trolls try to pry their foot out of their mouths, and put a bandaid on their ego.
No offense here but you need to stop yelling at everyone who doesn't believe in false positives, I believe in them a bit but people that don't shouldn't automatically be considered big ego stupid people that you look down to.

Valve is obviously going to look into seeing if they can find what is banning people unfairly, whether or not they fix bans is beyond me.

[RavenDizzle]

No offense here but you need to stop yelling at everyone who doesn't believe in false positives, I believe in them a bit but people that don't shouldn't automatically be considered big ego stupid people that you look down to.

Valve is obviously going to look into seeing if they can find what is banning people unfairly, whether or not they fix bans is beyond me.

I'm only nagging the people who go off and say "You hacked. Get over it, VAC is never wrong etc"

They deserve all the nagging they get. They clearly have no common sense.

[BroflMouth]

I'm only nagging the people who go off and say "You hacked. Get over it, VAC is never wrong etc"

They deserve all the nagging they get. They clearly have no common sense.
True, it's nice to see Valve start doing all these ban waves but it seems that they have made some mistakes that are getting some legit players banned.

[RavenDizzle]

True, it's nice to see Valve start doing all these ban waves but it seems that they have made some mistakes that are getting some legit players banned.

I can be the first to attest to this. I was at a LAN party, we were playing MW2, me and a friend of mine (Along with about 40 others). He was RIGHT next to me, in a PRIVATE MATCH. Stock, no edits etc. I was hosting. He got cheat detected. Now, I witnessed this, I KNOW he wasn't cheating.

[SS|-VoRTeX-|]

#1. You're in the wrong section of the forum. There is a VAC section for threads like this.

#2. You cheated and got VAC banned.


This section needs more mods to close these pointless "VAC FALSELY BANNED ME" threads, its getting a bit ridiculous now. This isn't the VAC section, so you're just blowing hot air in the dogs face. If VAC was banning people for having a non-cheat program running, it would've been fixed and those who were banned would have been unbanned. End of discussion.

[RavenDizzle]

#1. You're in the wrong section of the forum. There is a VAC section for threads like this.

#2. You cheated and got VAC banned.


This section needs more mods to close these pointless "VAC FALSELY BANNED ME" threads, its getting a bit ridiculous now. This isn't the VAC section, so you're just blowing hot air in the dogs face. If VAC was banning people for having a non-cheat program running, it would've been fixed and those who were banned would have been unbanned. End of discussion.

#1. I posted it here because it relates SPECIFICALLY to MW2's VAC system.

#2. I didn't, and you're swinging off the nutsack of the "VAC IS PERFECT bandwagon"

When these unjust bans are overturned, you'll owe...oh I don't know....1000 people an apology, or you'll be nothing but a turncoat ♥♥♥♥♥. Whats more, it will probably happen to you. In which I'll be here laughing.

[SS|-VoRTeX-|]

Why would I owe anybody an apology? You're posting in the wrong section of the forum. What do you expect? People who have been cheated against on here (in MW2) to say "OH HE DIDNT HACK, HES INNOCENT, THERE AREN'T LARGE AMOUNTS OF HACKERS IN MW2, NOPE!" ? lmao

Go buy another copy, run your hack, and get banned again. Simple as that.

[RavenDizzle]

Why would I owe anybody an apology? You're posting in the wrong section of the forum. What do you expect? People who have been cheated against on here (in MW2) to say "OH HE DIDNT HACK, HES INNOCENT, THERE AREN'T LARGE AMOUNTS OF HACKERS IN MW2, NOPE!" ? lmao

Go buy another copy, run your hack, and get banned again. Simple as that.

See, you're oblivious. I'll be laughing when this happens to you. I've seen you lurking these forums, you're nothing but a troll from somewhere in butt♥♥♥♥istan. I posted INFORMATION on my OP, and it was purely to help resolve the problem that is QUITE EVIDENT. If it wasn't evident, there wouldn't be over a thousand cases of this.

[SSI-KiLLeR-I]

See, you're oblivious. I'll be laughing when this happens to you. I've seen you lurking these forums, you're nothing but a troll from somewhere in butt♥♥♥♥istan. I posted INFORMATION on my OP, and it was purely to help resolve the problem that is QUITE EVIDENT. If it wasn't evident, there wouldn't be over a thousand cases of this.

well whats funny is you are posting in the wrong place. you should go to the support section if you didnt cheat. instead of crying in the actual game forums. mw2 does not have a specific vac for just mw2. vac is universal for all games that run it. valve anti cheat = vac. so yeah we dont care about your problems. quit crying buy another copy and run your hack again and get banned again. if you didnt cheat you would be taking it up with valve's support department, instead of whining here for sympathy.omg there is a thousand cases of people being banned in mw2? i guess we have 1000 pos cheaters we dont have to worry about any more.

[RavenDizzle]

well whats funny is you are posting in the wrong place. you should go to the support section if you didnt cheat. instead of crying in the actual game forums. mw2 does not have a specific vac for just mw2. vac is universal for all games that run it. valve anti cheat = vac. so yeah we dont care about your problems. quit crying buy another copy and run your hack again and get banned again. if you didnt cheat you would be taking it up with valve's support department, instead of whining here for sympathy.omg there is a thousand cases of people being banned in mw2? i guess we have 1000 pos cheaters we dont have to worry about any more.

You're right, VAC isn't exclusive to MW2, but its rendition of it is. It's flawed, clearly. If it wasn't, why would they allow it to be disabled?

[rovanrak]

You're right, VAC isn't exclusive to MW2, but its rendition of it is. It's flawed, clearly. If it wasn't, why would they allow it to be disabled?

So Valve should be in charge of coding Infinity Ward's games?

[RavenDizzle]

So Valve should be in charge of coding Infinity Ward's games?

VAC has nothing to do with infinity ward.

[SS|-VoRTeX-|]

VAC has nothing to do with infinity ward.

Then why are you posting here?

[sosuke131]

#1. I posted it here because it relates SPECIFICALLY to MW2's VAC system.

#2. I didn't, and you're swinging off the nutsack of the "VAC IS PERFECT bandwagon"

When these unjust bans are overturned, you'll owe...oh I don't know....1000 people an apology, or you'll be nothing but a turncoat ♥♥♥♥♥. Whats more, it will probably happen to you. In which I'll be here laughing.

I understand the issue Raven but SS|-VoRTeX-| has a point even if the post was mainly about the MW2 VAC its still posted in the wrong section as most of the topic deals with VAC. I've read every page in this thread. Any VAC related issues regardless of what game it was used for should always be put in the right section.

I'll say this only once: VAC is flawed just like any anti-hack.

[SSI-KiLLeR-I]

I'll say this only once: VAC is flawed just like any anti-hack.

correct. but the only reason its flawed is because it isnt made by a cheater. if it was it would work better

[sosuke131]

correct. but the only reason its flawed is because it isnt made by a cheater. if it was it would work better

I agree with that.

[RavenDizzle]

correct. but the only reason its flawed is because it isnt made by a cheater. if it was it would work better

It's flawed because it's dealing out unjust bans. When (WHEN) it happens to you, I'll be laughing. This wave of bans JUST started.

[rovanrak]

It's flawed because it's dealing out unjust bans. When (WHEN) it happens to you, I'll be laughing. This wave of bans JUST started.

You seem to be pretty certain.

[SSI-KiLLeR-I]

It's flawed because it's dealing out unjust bans. When (WHEN) it happens to you, I'll be laughing. This wave of bans JUST started.

it wont happen to me so stfu. my pc is only used by me no one has access to it. i clear my cache and cookies often. i use one anti virus regularly.and aside from the os i have firefox xfire and sony vegas installed. played 2500 hour and no un fair vac ban yet. cheat and get ownt no need to cry about it just come clean.

[BlackRaven]

It's flawed because it's dealing out unjust bans. When (WHEN) it happens to you, I'll be laughing. This wave of bans JUST started.
cheater. :D

[SSI-KiLLeR-I]

You seem to be pretty certain.

makes him look more guilty by the minute.

[LinkToThis]

It's flawed because it's dealing out unjust bans. When (WHEN) it happens to you, I'll be laughing. This wave of bans JUST started.

You do know the "wave" is lots of bans at once, then nothing for a while.

So it JUST started and JUST finished >_>

[giggityjeeper]

It's flawed because it's dealing out unjust bans. When (WHEN) it happens to you, I'll be laughing. This wave of bans JUST started.

ahh SS guys would have been banned by now, they use all hte weird stuff in game......



lol kidding guys, but most on here have accused Killer at one time or another... I know they run the MW2SA thing a well and stuff like me so it is not that...

I dont know if you cheated or not, I do know VAC only bans for KNOWN cheats, SO that being said you ahve something it dont like on your PC that only you and maybe lets say for giggles 500 (based on threads in here) others may have, so odds are NOT in your favor here..

every time there is a massive ban hammer these threads just keep coming, I guess time will tell if you did really hack or not, or mybe not, VAC dont take bans away is my understanding, so I dont know, maybe stop posting in here and focus on whree you should be in the VAC forums or whereeve you havetop go to dispute it..

your NOT going to get ANY sympathy in here.... wether you hacked or did not, most (99.9%) are going to flame you and could care less, and I am 90% sure you did something to warrant the ban.....

but on the off chance you did not, tstop wasting your time and finger strength here and focus on whre you should be with a support ticket.

[ZeroSlayerX]

The ban only affects MW2, any other current or future games on the account wont be affected. The only caveat on that is you can't add a new MW2 to that account again, it'll be auto banned.

ROFLCOPTERCAKES FTW yea it weird because when i got "banned" from MW2 i also got banned from all source games i HARDLY ever play any source games like TF2 and stuff so i just dont know its hard to figure out i just want to go back playing mw2 and i truly never have ever hacked

[LinkToThis]

ROFLCOPTERCAKES FTW yea it weird because when i got "banned" from MW2 i also got banned from all source games i HARDLY ever play any source games like TF2 and stuff so i just dont know its hard to figure out i just want to go back playing mw2 and i truly never have ever hacked

VAC ban's by engine, not by account.

[DoctorM16A2]

Off-topic: The "SS" clan rings "Hitler" in my head every time a member posts, especially when I see their flame-baiting posts. Unfortunately the OP is a victim of it.

On-topic: Whoever mentioned that VAC varies from game to game: yes and no.

Yes in that all VAC-secured games share the same module file (vac2.dll).

No in that in each different game, the VAC module receives different offsets to scan, and obviously what signatures (opcode and process CRC's) are white/black-listed. Or else, if the VAC signatures from say Counter-Strike: Source were used in Modern Warfare 2, everyone would get banned, since the opcode in say 0x400000 in CS:S does not match MW2. VAC would flag that as 'modified code' in an 'executable file'.

A possibility for his ban: (if he did not cheat)
And from reading the entire thread, I remember that the OP seems to have networking and IT experience? If so, he must have used software similar to Process Monitor. This kind of software can create hooks in vital API functions that VAC uses, and that may have been the cause of a ban if he did not cheat as he claims.

[RavenDizzle]

Off-topic: The "SS" clan rings "Hitler" in my head every time a member posts, especially when I see their flame-baiting posts. Unfortunately the OP is a victim of it.

On-topic: Whoever mentioned that VAC varies from game to game: yes and no.

Yes in that all VAC-secured games share the same module file (vac2.dll).

No in that in each different game, the VAC module receives different offsets to scan, and obviously what signatures (opcode and process CRC's) are white/black-listed. Or else, if the VAC signatures from say Counter-Strike: Source were used in Modern Warfare 2, everyone would get banned, since the opcode in say 0x400000 in CS:S does not match MW2. VAC would flag that as 'modified code' in an 'executable file'.

A possibility for his ban: (if he did not cheat)
And from reading the entire thread, I remember that the OP seems to have networking and IT experience? If so, he must have used software similar to Process Monitor. This kind of software can create hooks in vital API functions that VAC uses, and that may have been the cause of a ban if he did not cheat as he claims.

I've used process EXPLORER....but never while in game, so that's a big no. By the way, thanks for not jumping right to the "you hacked" theory, like those SS ♥♥♥♥♥.

[SSI-KiLLeR-I]

I've used process EXPLORER....but never while in game, so that's a big no. By the way, thanks for not jumping right to the "you hacked" theory, like those SS ♥♥♥♥♥.

you might not of cheated man.i recently discovered this. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16272115&posted=1#post16272115

[RavenDizzle]

you might not of cheated man.i recently discovered this. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16272115&posted=1#post16272115

Funny part of that is, when your trolling ♥♥♥ edited the wiki page, you couldn't bother to spell the simplest words correctly. Which leads me to the conlusion that you are nothing but a ♥♥♥♥ spewing 12 year old troll.

[Playerp228]

Cant be too accurate if they cant spell or string a coherent sentence together. One of the editors is Fausty, one of the banned individuals who posted on this forum.

Edit: beat by RavenDizzle

[SSI-KiLLeR-I]

Funny part of that is, when your trolling ♥♥♥ edited the wiki page, you couldn't bother to spell the simplest words correctly. Which leads me to the conlusion that you are nothing but a ♥♥♥♥ spewing 12 year old troll.

damn man clean your own yard up before talking about the color of my grass. you do know that usinf profanity as much as you do makes you look like you have a small vocabulary. and if your not using profanity your misspelling of larger words also supports the idea that you might be a twelve year old.

[SS|-VoRTeX-|]

ahh SS guys would have been banned by now, they use all hte weird stuff in game......


I just got vac banned, wtf.

[SpunkyKuma]

I just got vac banned, wtf.

Oh my, I've played with both of you plenty of times, I know you guys don't cheat. But at times I hate being on Killer's receiving end and don't want to play anymore.

[NBTBR]

damn man clean your own yard up before talking about the color of my grass. you do know that usinf profanity as much as you do makes you look like you have a small vocabulary. and if your not using profanity your misspelling of larger words also supports the idea that you might be a twelve year old.

I would rather have someone misspell large words instead of very very easy words like you misspelled.

[SS|-VoRTeX-|]

Oh my, I've played with both of you plenty of times, I know you guys don't cheat. But at times I hate being on Killer's receiving end and don't want to play anymore.

We have two or three members who are a bit better than him though, which is what really makes a "killer hacks" statement hilarious.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/100775456-4.jpg

Here is something interesting that is somewhat related to that topic; The only clans that call hacks and rage quit or ban us when we join are the ones that don't play on a ladder... go figure? lol

[DoctorM16A2]

The problem is, even if the OP was unjustly banned, VALVe would not just come out and apologize and unban him. They haven't done it for Paranoia, they won't do it now. The complaints haven't been that much, so even if they were false bans, they would try to ignore it and let it die down.

And, even if they did unban people, it'd put them in a bad position as they'd look weak and will seem as if they no longer believe in their trusty fool-proof VAC2 system.

It would threaten their future potential contracts and customers.

[RavenDizzle]

The problem is, even if the OP was unjustly banned, VALVe would not just come out and apologize and unban him. They haven't done it for Paranoia, they won't do it now. The complaints haven't been that much, so even if they were false bans, they would try to ignore it and let it die down.

And, even if they did unban people, it'd put them in a bad position as they'd look weak and will seem as if they no longer believe in their trusty fool-proof VAC2 system.

It would threaten their future potential contracts and customers.

OR alternatively being honest would be the best way to direct their business. Also, there's no IF. It DID happen.

[LinkToThis]

lol he done got banned

[UrbsTheWord]

lol he done got banned

A lot of his more recent posts had many pink hearts in them.

[frankpolyn64]

Stop posting in this thread

Ravendizzle is ALWAYS correct and us, posters ALWAYS wrong.

[Disthis!]

I am so fed up with people saying, VAC banned u so u cheated.
i never cheated in my life!
i have 370.2 hrs played in mw2 and stopped playing because of all the cheaters. Now i deside to play again and i get banned for ending up in some hacked server?

I dont care about this stupid ported game cause its unplayable with the cheaters.. ill only get frustrated.

I do care about the "VAC status:ban(s) on record" in my profile! If u are going to take away my €40 and mark me as a cheater. U'd better be damn sure i did so!

I recommend this topic to anyone who also feel wrongfully acused of cheating.
http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=351966

Why isnt there a Moderator is this topic yet?

[FOO|YA]

Because it is a the wrong forum for VAC ban complaints but it doesn't stop people from posting... Mods have repeatedly said this... Use this >>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=35

[Disthis!]

Because it is a the wrong forum for VAC ban complaints but it doesn't stop people from posting... Mods have repeatedly said this... Use this >>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=35

Ah... uhm.. good one! ill repeat my post there. Thanks!

[alungwilliams1]

I am so fed up with people saying, VAC banned u so u cheated.

Now i deside to play again and i get banned for ending up in some hacked server?

i'm so fed up of ppl saying, I GOT BANNED FOR BEING ON A HACKED SERVER.

dude read sticky's and use the search function. you cannot get banned for being on a hacked server unless you hacked it

[Disthis!]

hmm yea wow.. think i woke the troll up.. So u basicly believe everything u are told?
why would i start cheating after 370 hrs of playing and having fun?
oh and u are supposed to donate me €40.. it said soo.. just search for it or read the sticky.

[SpunkyKuma]

i'm so fed up of ppl saying, I GOT BANNED FOR BEING ON A HACKED SERVER.

dude read sticky's and use the search function. you cannot get banned for being on a hacked server unless you hacked it

Hard to say anymore, since when you join hacked servers, they can alter your config, unlocks, class loadouts and killstreaks- why rule out the possibility of forcing your client to download files from it? It does it sometimes in previous COD games unless you actually disable server download.

[Disthis!]

Im was sure i heard an similar story last year. And here it is:

http://www.destructoid.com/modern-warfare-2-gets-an-aids-like-virus-on-xbox-live-157964.phtml

This modified files on the Xbox to spread itself and "This unique issue started out as a mod on the PC version of the game".

Looks like something quite like this is at work now.

[FOO|YA]

Im was sure i heard an similar story last year. And here it is:

http://www.destructoid.com/modern-warfare-2-gets-an-aids-like-virus-on-xbox-live-157964.phtml

This modified files on the Xbox to spread itself and "This unique issue started out as a mod on the PC version of the game".

Looks like something quite like this is at work now.


I don't know about everyone else but that link is blocked by IE on my computer???

[Karr-Man]

So u basicly believe everything u are told?



nope we dont, usually ppl base what they believe on the credability of the person telling them. therefore we believe the forum mods and VALVe, but tend to doubt 1st time posters like yourself.

i chuckle when ppl like u come on and expect to be believed over more established and reliable sources... coming out with quotes like the one above :D

[d10sfan]

Hard to say anymore, since when you join hacked servers, they can alter your config, unlocks, class loadouts and killstreaks- why rule out the possibility of forcing your client to download files from it? It does it sometimes in previous COD games unless you actually disable server download.

If that was happening, then it is up to IW to fix it. Valve probably couldnt do anything about that, as it is not their game.

[retilax]

i believe you didnt cheat
had the samen problem
and nobody believed me
VAC fails!

[Disthis!]

nope we dont, usually ppl base what they believe on the credability of the person telling them. therefore we believe the forum mods and VALVe, but tend to doubt 1st time posters like yourself.

i chuckle when ppl like u come on and expect to be believed over more established and reliable sources... coming out with quotes like the one above :D

And your actual constructive contribution to this topic is? Go hide in yer cave .. troll

[Karr-Man]

And your actual constructive contribution to this topic is? Go hide in yer cave .. troll

you can read back to see my contributions if u like they r there to see, you were the one who asked if ppl believe all they read and my post was an explanation of why ppl would be likely to believe what mods and VALVe said, just because u dont like the answer doesnt make me a troll.

have a good day :)

[ostro]

this is pure ♥♥♥♥... i fix my computer for nothing... i enter to play and a guy whit lvl hack shooting from nowhere, a noob laugthing because he cheats... sucks.

only left to buy a ♥♥♥♥ing game for PS3 and learn how to shoot in joystick of PS3... suckers.

[Disthis!]

If that was happening, then it is up to IW to fix it. Valve probably couldnt do anything about that, as it is not their game.

I think that is what is going on atm. IW doesnt support its game with appropriate patches or fixes.. so cheaters can roam free. Since VAC has to coop with the complaints they deside to take hard action. gogo banhammer and begone with alot of cheaters and some collateral damage.

But surely u can understand that when u are banned for cheating while u(or anyone else on your account) havent, you would do alot to rectify that. Especialy when u find loads of topics with the same stories.

[Disthis!]

you can read back to see my contributions if u like they r there to see, you were the one who asked if ppl believe all they read and my post was an explanation of why ppl would be likely to believe what mods and VALVe said, just because u dont like the answer doesnt make me a troll.

have a good day :)

Thanks! Same to you :) But seriously.. u genially believe that all post about this are bogus? And that people would write to de major news blogs just so that they can expose themselfs as cheater later on?
I hated cheaters in game.. the only reason i quit playing. i never cheated in my life. And now im labeled a cheater.. that stings. Its the unfairness that's making me post .. i couldnt care less about that failed port of a game.

[Karr-Man]

Thanks! Same to you :) But seriously.. u genially believe that all post about this are bogus? And that people would write to de major news blogs just so that they can expose themselfs as cheater later on?
I hated cheaters in game.. the only reason i quit playing. i never cheated in my life. And now im labeled a cheater.. that stings. Its the unfairness that's making me post .. i couldnt care less about that failed port of a game.

i have no idea whether u cheated or not, there are a number of possible reasons for being banned, including account hijacks, unauthorised modding and of course cheating.

do i believe ppl who post here and say that VALVe made the mistake and VAC is faulty? no not really.

the reason why is that i have had my steam account for 7 years with no problems whatsoever, none of my clan have ever had any problems. the only person i know personally who has been vac banned admitted to me that he DID cheat. therefore my experience tells me VAC is reliable.

on the other hand, ppl who hack also lie about it and use any excuse they can think of... in my position, who would u believe?

[LinkToThis]

hmm yea wow.. think i woke the troll up.. So u basicly believe everything u are told?
why would i start cheating after 370 hrs of playing and having fun?
oh and u are supposed to donate me €40.. it said soo.. just search for it or read the sticky.

Ask that to every cheater who gets banned, try and understand, every ban wave people come here crying because they were "Banned for no reason".

No one has any reason to believe you over anyone else.

I have even LESS reason personally as you don't understand the difference between a Client side hack and a server side hack.

You will only get banned for client side, as server side does not mess with the memory of MW2.

[Fahrenheit 451]

Ask that to every cheater who gets banned, try and understand, every ban wave people come here crying because they were "Banned for no reason".

No one has any reason to believe you over anyone else.

I have even LESS reason personally as you don't understand the difference between a Client side hack and a server side hack.

You will only get banned for client side, as server side does not mess with the memory of MW2.

Not to mention it CANNOT mess with the memory of MW2.

[LinkToThis]

Good point, it does not and cannot.

Only programs on the users computer can inject into the games .dll and memory

[davep]

hmm yea wow.. think i woke the troll up.. So u basicly believe everything u are told?
why would i start cheating after 370 hrs of playing and having fun?
oh and u are supposed to donate me €40.. it said soo.. just search for it or read the sticky.

it's called common sense, only thing hacked servers change is config files and makes you gain extra xp which in turn "edits" your stat file. the only thing VAC checks for are .dll's that shouldn't be there or a edited/hooked .exe

[friedricemonste]

Wow thank the freaking g0d i bought MW2 on a different account. I tried MW2 on a free weekend and got into a modded lobby that messed up my profile. I didnt know how to reverse or start over my profile at the time so i created another account and bought my MW2 on that account.

I was pissed off for a while because i had to switch accounts if i have to play another game, but now i think it payed off. Im not banned but im glad i have MW2 on another account just incase crap like this happens.

Anyways, i hope you are innocent, and i cant believe VAC has banned nothing but legit players so far. Good job VAC, you sure screwed yourself to your own grave this time.

[Fahrenheit 451]

Wow thank the freaking g0d i bought MW2 on a different account. I tried MW2 on a free weekend and got into a modded lobby that messed up my profile. I didnt know how to reverse or start over my profile at the time so i created another account and bought my MW2 on that account.

I was jarateed off for a while because i had to switch accounts if i have to play another game, but now i think it payed off. Im not banned but im glad i have MW2 on another account just incase crap like this happens.

Anyways, i hope you are innocent, and i cant believe VAC has banned nothing but legit players so far. Good job VAC, you sure screwed yourself to your own grave this time.

Um, you can't get banned from hacked servers. These people telling you this are liars. I would, as someone who has used VAC for a while, advise you to not believe those who say they were banned for nothing. No one is banned for nothing. I pardon your ignorance because you are new but if you still have questions as to why these people are banned, I suggest you talk to a moderator. Zefar is the mod that seems to preside is the MW forums. Eram also seems to be in the VAC section a lot.

[friedricemonste]

Um, you can't get banned from hacked servers. These people telling you this are liars. I would, as someone who has used VAC for a while, advise you to not believe those who say they were banned for nothing. No one is banned for nothing. I pardon your ignorance because you are new but if you still have questions as to why these people are banned, I suggest you talk to a moderator. Zefar is the mod that seems to preside is the MW forums. Eram also seems to be in the VAC section a lot.

Im not really new to Steam or VAC, i have been playing CS before it was even integrated into Steam. The reason i tend to believe SOME of these guys is because VAC does have a history of false positive detections and the sudden surge of people claiming false positive detections makes me think maybe the problem does reside on VAC's side.

[Playerp228]

Im not really new to Steam or VAC, i have been playing CS before it was even integrated into Steam. The reason i tend to believe SOME of these guys is because VAC does have a history of false positive detections and the sudden surge of people claiming false positive detections makes me think maybe the problem does reside on VAC's side.

Do you think its plausible that VAC made a mistake on 50-100 accounts (or whatever it might be) and left the other 100thousand alone?

[FOO|YA]

Do you think its plausible that VAC made a mistake on 50-100 accounts (or whatever it might be) and left the other 100thousand alone?


Thats what they all seem to be eluding to. VAC only picked out certian people and then left the rest alone. The history that they all keep referencing is VAC1 and not VAC2.

[doug141]

I'd sure like to see Fahrenheit 451 post a fraps of himself running MW2 while also running the following programs:

Google Chrome (downloading something)
Pidgin
Teamspeak 3 (have a friend connect)
X-Fire
Skype (what the heck, have a call come in)
with config file changes: enable the flash nade indicator, made it so the bars are 10, and made the intervals 20, enable the lag-o-meter.

I don't have the balls to try it.

[milkyjoe]

I think once you admit to urself ur an obsesive cheater, u will get over this, your so addicted too cheating you dont even realize your doing it and probably doing it in your sleep and think its the normaly part of the game.

[LinkToThis]

I'd sure like to see Fahrenheit 451 post a fraps of himself running MW2 while also running the following programs:

Google Chrome (downloading something)
Pidgin
Teamspeak 3 (have a friend connect)
X-Fire
Skype (what the heck, have a call come in)
with config file changes: enable the flash nade indicator, made it so the bars are 10, and made the intervals 20, enable the lag-o-meter.

I don't have the balls to try it.

i run MW2 whilst calling someone on skype, have a media player with an overlay of the game, with curse client running (World of warcraft add-ons) and daemon tools (Disk emulation) and anything else i have running at that time.

If i did get banned, i would personally blame Daemon tools or curse client if i had to grasp at straws, but as neither hooks onto the exe or does anything with the game.

[TrashedDT]

I just want the community to know my situation...

Ok, you shared. Why are you still replying to this thread?

[Easton Dark]

Ok, you shared. Why are you still replying to this thread?

You do know he's banned?

Edit: Oh hey look, I got 3 more reputation since yesterday :D

[TrashedDT]

He also said he wasn't going to ask to be unbanned in his first post.

[nyran125]

has it got something to do with your teamspeak?

I often use to hate and STILL hate, ESPECIALLY a whole team of like 4 or 5 on your team has vent or teamspeak and everyone else cant hear them but they can only hear themselves. That annoys the hell out of me and should be taken out of MP gaming fullstop and everyone should have to use the VOIP of the game. Because whats the point in having a strategy if only a few on the team can hear each other, just cause thier friends, lol.

That still pisses me off,lol. Rather have clans banned for that.

Jks :):):)

kind of....

[cusul]

I'm banned in WM2 too! And believe me, i have never used any cheat for any game! (I was often owned by cheaters...)
There seems some errors in vac detection :o

[nyran125]

People that have been banned. Make sure you go to support and ASK the steam support team why you have been banned. You WILL get a reply.

When you do get a reply PLEASE come back and tell us what the reply was.

GOTO SUPPORT / create an account / then E-Mail the support team from the drop down list of options.

Do that you WILL get a reply in a few days to your real email account.

[cusul]

I've opend a ticket some minutes ago. Let's see how long it will take for an answer


i'm so fed up of ppl saying, I GOT BANNED FOR BEING ON A HACKED SERVER.

dude read sticky's and use the search function. you cannot get banned for being on a hacked server unless you hacked it

Thats sadly not the truth

[TrashedDT]

People that have been banned. Make sure you go to support and ASK the steam support team why you have been banned. You WILL get a reply.

When you do get a reply PLEASE come back and tell us what the reply was.

GOTO SUPPORT / create an account / then E-Mail the support team from the drop down list of options.

Do that you WILL get a reply in a few days to your real email account.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4044-QDHJ-5691
The details of the ban will not be provided

Steam Support will not disclose the cheats that were detected running on your system or the date and time the infraction took place. Any requests for this information will be ignored.

VAC may not ban you immediately - the cheating violation may have occurred days or even weeks before the ban is apparent on your account.

[Fahrenheit 451]

I'd sure like to see Fahrenheit 451 post a fraps of himself running MW2 while also running the following programs:

Google Chrome (downloading something)
Pidgin
Teamspeak 3 (have a friend connect)
X-Fire
Skype (what the heck, have a call come in)
with config file changes: enable the flash nade indicator, made it so the bars are 10, and made the intervals 20, enable the lag-o-meter.

I don't have the balls to try it.

Here is what is often running when I play:
iTunes
WeGame
Skype
GTalk
ijji Reactor
Microsoft OneNote
Safari
Speedfan
McCafee
Steam
sometimes Game Booster
sometimes Teamspeak 3

The account I use was given to me by my brother when he moved to a MacBook Air. We have played about 400 hours all together. He deleted the music folder, changed the splash image, edited a lot of gun textures (deagle, AK), and changed half the config. I have used both Donutdan's program and EAM/PSE (after a hacked server). I have been in 4 hacked servers and I don't know how many he had been in. No Bans.

Believe me, you won't get banned for any combination of programs. Only if you use hacks, will you get banned. People must realize this and stop being so gullible.

Obviously the hackers who got banned are not going to listen to this a will keep spewing the lies. Personally, I don't trust people who get banned. I would recommend that no one else do either (when it comes to opinions of the program that banned them).

EDIT: yes lagometer is always on and ping has been altered. Flash indicator is also on.

[LinkToThis]

I've opend a ticket some minutes ago. Let's see how long it will take for an answer




Thats sadly not the truth

Sadly it is the truth, you do not get banned from hacked lobbies.

as i have already said

Hacked lobby is server side, and can not change your game files apart from the config.

Only hosting it will cause a ban, 1000's of people have joined hacked lobbies, and very few have been banned.

[cusul]

If i was not banned for accidently joining a hackey lobby, VAC is broken

[Fahrenheit 451]

If i was not banned for accidently joining a hackey lobby, VAC is broken

Either that, or you are a hacker.

BTW, VAC is not broken.

[cusul]

BTW, VAC is not broken.

You are a developer of it?

[eXpertZonee]

BTW, VAC is not broken.

Have you ever played any other game with anticheat?

[Fahrenheit 451]

Have you ever played any other game with anticheat?

Um, yeah. COD4 had punkbuster which kicked you for using the Steam in-game overlay. VAC owns all the other anti-cheats as it only bans for cheats and not programs that might be cheats.

[eternality]

Um, yeah. COD4 had punkbuster which kicked you for using the Steam in-game overlay. VAC owns all the other anti-cheats as it only bans for cheats and not programs that might be cheats.

If the steam overlay option is checked and you don't actually use it while playing will you still be kicked? Or does it have to be disabled completely?

[NaOHSpree]

If the steam overlay option is checked and you don't actually use it while playing will you still be kicked? Or does it have to be disabled completely?

Go on COD4 properties and chose to disable Steam Community in-game, or just use xfire to launch COD4, it finds way more servers :)

[Ranik]

Um, yeah. COD4 had punkbuster which kicked you for using the Steam in-game overlay. VAC owns all the other anti-cheats as it only bans for cheats and not programs that might be cheats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Anti-Cheat#False-positive_detections

Oh really?

[CP9 sp00n]

The threadstarter has been banned already. Mod can close thread ?

[instakill]

Why do people keep quoting wikipedia, do these people actually know it is community updated?