StarCraft II [News, Lore, Discussion, eSports]

[Forward Area]

Damn guys... was out on vacation for 3 days and now I come back and miss ALL THE EPIC STUFF?

[Flamov]

Is it true you get banned for using cheats in single player cause thats what ive been hearing.

Cheats or hacks? Cheats, no, since they ship with the client. Hacks (in single-player), yes, since the single-player runs off the Battle.Net service.

[Goggalor]

Damn guys... was out on vacation for 3 days and now I come back and miss ALL THE EPIC STUFF?I was wondering where you were. There are some vods here (http://sc2casts.com/event89-IEM-American-Series), but the Fenix vs Drewbie series isn't up. Epic epic comeback. Fenix is my new hero after that.

Edit: The replays are up here. (http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/replays/38313)

Is it true you get banned for using cheats in single player cause thats what ive been hearing.There was one person who got banned for cheating in single player. He was using hacks that also apply to the multiplayer aspect. Most everyone else using this hack were using it in mp, but he only played single player. He still was using the hack though, so he got banned along with everyone else using the hack even though he never played mp.

[Shadoww0lf]

Here's the article, if it hasn't been posted:
http://www.cheathappens.com/article_blizzardbans.asp

Personally, I think it's a very stupid move. They aren't being careful because they're overconfident.. but their false sense of security will lead to their downfall..

A company can tumble to it's death much like a stone falling into an ocean.

Basically, if they keep treating their fanbase like this, it'll backfire, and the fanbase will destroy the company.

He still was using the hack though, so he got banned along with everyone else using the hack even though he never played mp.

A clientside trainer should NOT work in a multiplayer game. If it does, the programmers are failures and are the ones to be blamed.

(Which makes me ponder about how they got a job in the first place..)

[velvetmeds]

don't hack, don't cheat.

[Shadoww0lf]

don't hack, don't cheat.

Or simply don't buy games with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eulas.

There's nothing wrong with cheating in single player games. You're doing it for the fun of it. (Do do things the game wasn't intended to do.)

When was curiosity illegal when no harm is being committed?

[Redhandlure]

Just played Phantom Mode on custom games.
Its fun as hell
I am so proud to kill 33 medivacs with a thor on each one And proud of destroying 25 battlecruisers out of 33 with using Seeker missiles from ravens
:D!

[StingingVelvet]

Or simply don't buy games with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eulas.

There's nothing wrong with cheating in single player games. You're doing it for the fun of it. (Do do things the game wasn't intended to do.)

Indeed.

People won't see the danger of this unless it effects them though. People will go on swallowing the erosion of their consumer rights (or any rights really) until one day they want it effects them and they say "oh, what happened?"

Sad.

[Zukabazuka]

Well there are cheat codes, why didn't he use those? Oh wait when using cheats it turns the achievements off which most likely the guy was hunting for.

[Zero_Vector]

There is no point having an achievement system if you can cheat to get them. Hence the bans. You can't ruin it for everyone else just because you want to cheat.

[Flamov]

Or simply don't buy games with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eulas.

There's nothing wrong with cheating in single player games. You're doing it for the fun of it. (Do do things the game wasn't intended to do.)

When was curiosity illegal when no harm is being committed?

Because the singe-player is linked directly to your online progression - your achievements - and so hacking the single-player would be hacking the online service. Quite straight forward.

Hacks are hacks. There are single-player cheats in the game for you to enjoy, so I would not see why you would want hacks in the first place.

[Mudkipz]

ooo yey HD did a new video, very short though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhiWifDniyI
It was Fruitdealer/seller/OGSCool vs HopeTorture.

Also Husky did an interesting game of TLO (playing as zerg) in a ZvZ, first part is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WEpP2qpslU

[StingingVelvet]

There is no point having an achievement system if you can cheat to get them. Hence the bans. You can't ruin it for everyone else just because you want to cheat.

Then ban people from the online community features, not the entire game. No one should lose their singleplayer game ever, no matter what the stupid EULA says. That goes for Steamworks, Impulse and whatever other "games as a service" platform too.

[Zero_Vector]

I would agree, if your single player performance wasn't recorded and ranked against the performance of other people online, which essentially turns it into a pseudo multiplayer.

There is an offline mode if you don't want achievements and the game even has built-in cheats.

[Goggalor]

Then ban people from the online community features, not the entire game. No one should lose their singleplayer game ever, no matter what the stupid EULA says. That goes for Steamworks, Impulse and whatever other "games as a service" platform too.This is they way it really should work. Get caught hacking > no multiplayer for you.

[Excygy]

concept art for Fruitdealer (http://us.media.blizzard.com/sc2/media/artwork/fruit-dealer-full.jpg)

the Grapeling, applelord and Bananalisk :)

[Forward Area]

Patch 1.1.2 released!

StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty – Patch 1.1.2

General

* Players will no longer receive achievement toasts while their status is set to "Busy."
* The messaging when attempting to load a saved game or replay from a previous version has been clarified
* Adjusted the amount of points earned and lost by random team participants to properly reflect the strength of a player's teammates.



Balance

* PROTOSS
o Buildings
+ Nexus life and shields increased from 750/750 to 1000/1000.
o Void Ray
+ Damage level 1 increased from 5 to 6 (+4 armored).
+ Damage level 2 decreased from 10 (+15 armored) to 8 (+8 armored).
+ Flux Vanes speed upgrade bonus decreased from 1.125 to 0.703.

* TERRAN
o Buildings
+ Barracks requirement changed from Command Center to Supply Depot.
+ Supply Depot life increased from 350 to 400.
o Medivac
+ Acceleration reduced from 2.315 to 2.25.
+ Speed reduced from 2.75 to 2.5.
o Reaper
+ Nitro Packs speed upgrade now has a Factory Requirement.
o Thor
+ Energy bar removed.
+ 250mm Strike Cannons is now cooldown-based on a 50-second cooldown. Ability starts with cooldown available (useable immediately after upgrade is researched).

* ZERG
o Buildings
+ Hatchery life increased from 1250 to 1500.
+ Lair life increased from 1800 to 2000.
+ Spawning Pool life increased from 750 to 1000.
+ Spire life increased from 600 to 850.
+ Ultralisk Cavern life increased from 600 to 850.
o Corruptor
+ Energy bar removed.
+ Corruption is now cooldown-based on a 45-second cooldown. Ability starts with cooldown expired (must wait for full 45-second cycle before usable).
o Infestor
+ Fungal Growth now prevents Blink.
o Roach
+ Range increased from 3 to 4.



Bug Fixes

* Fixed an issue where players could not cast the Feedback spell on Point Defense Drones.
* Fixed an issue where the Phoenix would continue to channel Graviton Beam after the target died.
* Fixed an issue that would cause Larvae to spawn and be hidden behind Zerg eggs.
* Fixed an issue where players were unable to navigate to the Single Player page or watch replays after canceling map downloads from the queue.
* Fixed a desync that could occur on user-created maps with custom mod dependencies.


Source : http://us.starcraft2.com/launcher/patch-notes.htm

[Goggalor]

o Void Ray
+ Damage level 1 increased from 5 to 6 (+4 armored).
+ Damage level 2 decreased from 10 (+15 armored) to 8 (+8 armored).
+ Flux Vanes speed upgrade bonus decreased from 1.125 to 0.703.♥♥♥♥ you blizzard.

[Zero_Vector]

Nooooo! Not the void rays ;_;

Roach range will be awesome though.

[Goggalor]

Yeah, roaches were practically melee units. Its about time they got a bump in range.

[Excygy]

lol if they continu this way fruit dealer will win once again O_O!

[Scared]

I am surprised at the short turnaround time for the patch from Blizzard.

[Neals_Aric]

♥♥♥♥ you blizzard.

About time they got nerfed.

[velvetmeds]

The void change is good.

[Zero_Vector]

Almost halved damaged vs. buildings seems like overkill to me. They were powerful in team games but not that useful in 1v1 as it was.

[Flamov]

I play in the SEA region and I just logged onto the Battle.Net website and it said "Add Free" Starcraft II account for the US region, so I can finally play with you guys (however, on a separate account, so I don't have my achievements and portraits that I do with my SEA account).

I was under the impression, as it said in-game, that you had to buy a new retail box. But if you just go to the website and add a US-SCII for free, which should appear under your SEA account, you can hop right in.

[Forward Area]

I hope you guys are ready for the second edition of Major League Gaming now set in Washington DC. It starts tonight and goes until tomorrow. More info here : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=160510

Hope you guys tune in! Last MLG was epic as you guys know ;)

GO CANADA

[Flamov]

Patch 1.1.2 released!

The Barracks dependency was unnecessary, in my opinion. I have a feeling that it was to add to the Reaper nerf, but it kind of throws a lot of openers off... especially with TvZ. They should have just made Reapers only able to be built with a Factory, or made the Nitro upgrade more expensive... it just seems a bit much, especially when Terran are supposed to be able to quickly adapt to any situation.

The Void Ray and Medivac nerf is good, though. Also happy about the Zerg buffs, looking forward to 1v1'ing Zerg more often (as a challenge against them, not because I play them).

[Zefar]

I don't see how the Zerg buff to buildings will do that much. If they're in your base and killing you, you're most likely done for it.

I was thinking more of the likes that Marauders was going to get a nerf.

Honestly, 20 damage to armor and slowing down enemies on hit with a upgrade that cost 50 minerals+gas and they have 125 HP is not my view of balance. While they do 10 to normal it still doesn't make much difference. Most normal type monsters have low on health.

The nerfs that was made to Terran will most likely not be noticed. Don't think it will make any differences though.

The void ray nerf might have been a bit too much though.

[Mudkipz]

I don't see how the Zerg buff to buildings will do that much. If they're in your base and killing you, you're most likely done for it.

I was thinking more of the likes that Marauders was going to get a nerf.

Honestly, 20 damage to armor and slowing down enemies on hit with a upgrade that cost 50 minerals+gas and they have 125 HP is not my view of balance. While they do 10 to normal it still doesn't make much difference. Most normal type monsters have low on health.

The nerfs that was made to Terran will most likely not be noticed. Don't think it will make any differences though.

The void ray nerf might have been a bit too much though.

Yea I think the void ray nerf should be slightly less. The building buff will give you more time to react and build up more forces or get your forces in there so they can't as easily just snipe off a building with a drop.
I also agree the marauders a tad OP.

[Neals_Aric]

Yea I think the void ray nerf should be slightly less. The building buff will give you more time to react and build up more forces or get your forces in there so they can't as easily just snipe off a building with a drop.
I also agree the marauders a tad OP.

I think everyone agrees marauders are too powerful.

[Forward Area]

http://events.mlgpro.com/takeovers/procircuit/titles/starcraft?site_id=mlgpro

Link for the StarCraft 2 stream. It should start in a few mins and should last for 6-7 more hours. Pro StarCraft live with commentary by veterans and professionals Day9 and JP.

Hope you guys will tune in, this will be amazing.

Go eSports! Go StarCraft! Go HuK! GO CANADA!

[Isy]

HuK was on Day9 Daily on Wednesday, sounds like a cool guy. Haven't seen anything from White Ra since he got married so he's my favorite Protoss now. <3

[Isy]

Here we go. eg Machine vs Liquid Ret on Blistering Sands ZvZ

[Forward Area]

I just tuned in. GL HF!

[Goggalor]

HOly ♥♥♥♥ did you see IdrA's defense against lastshadow? Damn that was intense!

Oh, and I'd love to see Masq vs IdrA.

[Neals_Aric]

HOly ♥♥♥♥ did you see IdrA's defense against lastshadow? Damn that was intense!

Oh, and I'd love to see Masq vs IdrA.

Yeah..... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyUdeIh9ic8)

and the rematch after Idra rage. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJfkBg0aPZ8)


Or had you already seen those, and were just wishing for more games?

[Goggalor]

Yeah, I saw those awhile ago, which is why the possibility of a match between them get me excited.

[Bearkin]

Huk is going up. Is he the Canadian?

[Goggalor]

Yeah, and he won MLG Raleigh. So many more contenders here though, so we'll see how he does here.

[Goggalor]

Wow, great move against gretorp's ghosts by huk.

[Goggalor]

White-Ra vs kiwikaki, g1, so crazy.

game 2, so sad :(

[Neals_Aric]

Damn, missed the masq vs qxc games. :(

[Mudkipz]

Aww this was all in the wee hours of this morning:( (Or late last night, but I was out).

Ooo there is another Diamond league player (another as in I met one a few days ago, I am not diamond league!)

[Goggalor]

My god did anyone see IdrA's defense against Kiwikaki? I can't believe he won that one.

[Bearkin]

I came in partway through the last match : (

[Zukabazuka]

http://kotaku.com/5665407/blizzard-suing-starcraft-ii-cheat-makers

Go get them Blizzard, let them feel the wrath from you. Anyone who try to defend those who make cheats, really don't bother no one wants them.

[Isy]

Damn I just got back from work. What did I miss?

[Bearkin]

http://kotaku.com/5665407/blizzard-suing-starcraft-ii-cheat-makers

Go get them Blizzard, let them feel the wrath from you. Anyone who try to defend those who make cheats, really don't bother no one wants them.

Haha, there's was only enough room in the tab I opened that link up in to say "Blizzard Suing Starcraft II ...".

I was like ???????????

[Isy]

Btw do you guys know if the games are coming up as VODs i.e. commented by Day9 or is it replays only?

[Goggalor]

What an insane day of gaming. SO many epic games, and it still isn't over!

Btw do you guys know if the games are coming up as VODs i.e. commented by Day9 or is it replays only?They will get out replays, and later VODs. I think the vods for MLG raleigh are finally up.

[Isy]

Thought about playing of some matches but I'll watch the matches. So epic.

Also Idra is in the finals. I bet he's happy. (http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4589/idraemotionchart.jpg)

[Goggalor]

Thought about playing of some matches but I'll watch the matches. So epic.

Also Idra is in the finals. I bet he's happy. (http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4589/idraemotionchart.jpg)They actually showed him smiling earlier. I think it was yesterday after practice but before the games began and he was absolutely destroying everyone he was matched up against.

[Goggalor]

My GOD Huk is getting a mothership in the 2nd bracket finals!!!!!!

[Goggalor]

lmfao!

MOM pops out, croud goes absolutely bonkers, huk chats, "thats halo, don't worry. (http://i54.tinypic.com/2vvklsl.png)

[Goggalor]

:( Mom out of position, gets caught, gg for huk. Goes out with a bang though, man talk about being a crowd favorite after mom rushing in the last game for 3rd place.

[Isy]

Idra v Select. Let's go!

[Goggalor]

IdrA ♥♥♥♥♥ select. No surprise really, as IdrA is an absolute machine, and since so few people play zerg on the NA servers, select didn't know what to do.

[Bearkin]

IdrA ♥♥♥♥♥ select. No surprise really, as IdrA is an absolute machine, and since so few people play zerg on the NA servers, select didn't know what to do.

I wanted anyone EXCEPT IdrA to win. Ah well, time for the WoW stream.

[Dagbiker]

so what happens in the end of starcraft 2.

[Bearkin]

so what happens in the end of starcraft 2.

The protagonist overcomes the antagonist.

[Goggalor]

Here is another pic, you have to imagine this with the noise of 100s of nerdgasms just a few feet away the moment that ship spawned. (http://i.imgur.com/98Eko.png)

Edit; and where the hell is Forward Area, Huk is his hero. I expected him to be nerdgasming all over this thread.

[miX_]

This has nothing to do with the current flow of conversation but I was just an hour into a match and Windows 7 decided to close SC2 because it was using too many resources.

SO MUCH RAGE.

[Goggalor]

Because I know MLG won't get a VOD of the huk game up for awhile. The TL forum was basically a live chat during the whole time.

It breaks down like this:

Between games, the camera is on Huk and seleCT.
Game starts, but they don't switch camera to the game.
Crowd starts chanting "Show the game! Show the game!"

This is where it all starts. Huk has been known to mothership rush in tournements before, and thought that they were chanting "mothership! Mothership!"

Huk loves to please the crowd, seleCT had just delivered a beating to him, and another one is probably coming. Also, if he wins the match he plays Idra again, who beat him handily earlier. Thinking the crowd is chanting for him to go mothership, even though they are not, he decides to go mothership.

By this time the camera crew has the feed back on the game, and we see Huk lay down a gateway, then a cyber, then a stargate... The crowd is now very very intersted.

Stargate finishes, fleet beacon goes down and the crowd explodes.

Oh, and this whole time huk is also chatting in game about the crowd chanting motheship, how he can't go mothership because select would expect it, yada yada yada.

Fleet beacon finishes and up in the production tab we see a mothership.

cue crowd explosion #2.

Crowd starts chanting "Huk! Huk! Huk! Huk! Huk! Huk! Huk!"

During all this, select is making a push. Huk has diverted huge amounts of resources into this tech path and has a very small army.

Mothership pops and the sound blasts the roof off. Huk, trying to play it off types, "Don't worry, thats halo" (http://i.imgur.com/98Eko.png) as select lays down the perfect scan over huks mom and army. Oh, if you didn't figure it out, there was a halo 3 tourney going on at the same time, and you could often hear the halo crowd from the SC2 area.

And then it all goes downhill. Huk manages to vortex his own units, then leaves the mom out of position and it gets sniped. He didn't have much of a chance anyway because of how many resources he put into making the mom.

Regardless, Huk is now the hero of thousands of starcraft nerds everywhere.

So with that imagery in mind, you can read this thread starting at the 5th post from the top and feel the excitement. (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161238&currentpage=254)

[Redhandlure]

Just curious guys, when is the one free name change is gonna occur?

[Goggalor]

Someone uploaded a video, so awesome! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWuWQ2smfZw)

[Bearkin]

Because I know MLG won't get a VOD of the huk game up for awhile. The TL forum was basically a live chat during the whole time.

It breaks down like this:

Between games, the camera is on Huk and seleCT.
Game starts, but they don't switch camera to the game.
Crowd starts chanting "Show the game! Show the game!"

This is where it all starts. Huk has been known to mothership rush in tournements before, and thought that they were chanting "mothership! Mothership!"

Huk loves to please the crowd, seleCT had just delivered a beating to him, and another one is probably coming. Also, if he wins the match he plays Idra again, who beat him handily earlier. Thinking the crowd is chanting for him to go mothership, even though they are not, he decides to go mothership.

By this time the camera crew has the feed back on the game, and we see Huk lay down a gateway, then a cyber, then a stargate... The crowd is now very very intersted.

Stargate finishes, fleet beacon goes down and the crowd explodes.

Oh, and this whole time huk is also chatting in game about the crowd chanting motheship, how he can't go mothership because select would expect it, yada yada yada.

Fleet beacon finishes and up in the production tab we see a mothership.

cue crowd explosion #2.

Crowd starts chanting "Huk! Huk! Huk! Huk! Huk! Huk! Huk!"

During all this, select is making a push. Huk has diverted huge amounts of resources into this tech path and has a very small army.

Mothership pops and the sound blasts the roof off. Huk, trying to play it off types, "Don't worry, thats halo" (http://i.imgur.com/98Eko.png) as select lays down the perfect scan over huks mom and army. Oh, if you didn't figure it out, there was a halo 3 tourney going on at the same time, and you could often hear the halo crowd from the SC2 area.

And then it all goes downhill. Huk manages to vortex his own units, then leaves the mom out of position and it gets sniped. He didn't have much of a chance anyway because of how many resources he put into making the mom.

Regardless, Huk is now the hero of thousands of starcraft nerds everywhere.

So with that imagery in mind, you can read this thread starting at the 5th post from the top and feel the excitement. (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161238&currentpage=254)

Haha, you really loved that game. I gotta admit, it was pretty cool. You forgot the part where after he built the Stargate and the crowd cheered, he said (paraphrasing of course) "dont worry, its carriers"


On another note, watching all this StarCraft made me play again for the first time in a month and a half. I played VERY little multiplayer since I played some in beta and so I only had a few games, which were bad, and was placed in Silver. Just played a few games, ♥♥♥♥♥ some faces, and am happy to say I got pushed up to gold =D And Platinum is a possibility, I was #1 in my gold division in beta for along time.

Watching these guys helped. Seeing how they react and all that.. Also, I didn't realize that you could group buildings. Makes SCVs and Barracks production go much smoother.

Yay!

[Goggalor]

Thought about playing of some matches but I'll watch the matches. So epic.

Also Idra is in the finals. I bet he's happy. (http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4589/idraemotionchart.jpg)Here you go :) (http://i.imgur.com/cz3Ap.jpg)

[Zero_Vector]

Well I for one like Idra. He just lets his opponents wear themselves down while out-macroing them. Although his final games against select were complete walk-overs and not hugely entertaining.

The best plan against him is to attack early and force him into a micro situation like what happened at IEM. I suppose since the patch that is very difficult for a terran.

[Isy]

I did like the Banelings chasing the marines in game 2 on Xel Naga caverns. So awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zck4GkL_ISg#t=10m27s)

[Forward Area]

Sorry folks busy weekend just got back and was able to catch the friday night games only. :( I got some catching up to do so please bear with me! Heard IdrA won.. sigh I wanted HuK to win.

Just played a game after a few days of absence, not too bad. Thought id share it with you guys. ZVT action on Metalopolis. I tried something new I learned from TLO : 3 hatch expand. Lets say it worked wonders :D I will try to work a build around this. It has potential to be very destructive.

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/92207-1v1-terran-zerg-metalopolis

Enjoy

[Forward Area]

Thought id let you know guys, ill modify the OP and the second post this week and probably add a replay database in there. If you want your replays to be there please by all means post them here so we can have a SPUF replays database up!

[Goggalor]

Sorry folks busy weekend just got back and was able to catch the friday night games only. :( I got some catching up to do so please bear with me! Heard IdrA won.. sigh I wanted HuK to win.

Just played a game after a few days of absence, not too bad. Thought id share it with you guys. ZVT action on Metalopolis. I tried something new I learned from TLO : 3 hatch expand. Lets say it worked wonders :D I will try to work a build around this. It has potential to be very destructive.

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/92207-1v1-terran-zerg-metalopolis

Enjoy
Huk had a great tournament. He went all the way to the fight with idra without losing a match. Then lost so select in the losers bracket, then mothership rushed to become a crowd fav.

[Forward Area]

I just saw your thread on TeamLiquid about the mom rush. Downloaded the replay lol so good!

[Isy]

Link to the thread please? :p

[Forward Area]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161410

Here you go. HuK replies in the thread at one point too. :p

Also, for those who might not have been up to date with the news : HuK is a member of Team Liquid since a few weeks. Congratulations to him!

[Goggalor]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161410

Here you go. HuK replies in the thread at one point too. :p

Also, for those who might not have been up to date with the news : HuK is a member of Team Liquid since a few weeks. Congratulations to him!
Hey, Thats my thread!

[Goggalor]

Dude, Forward, you are almost 3000 diamond? Jesus christ!

[IsItOctober?]

Dude, Forward, you are almost 3000 diamond? Jesus christ!

lol no thats his achievement score. His top Diamond is 2v2 with pyrock, 1087.



Playing 4v4 right now if anyone cares to join. And is decent to hang with platinum and diamond.

[ianskate]

Anybody in here going to BlizzCon? I'll be there filming for Blizzard. PM me if you're going (not to clutter this) and maybe I can get you on camera.

[Forward Area]

Anybody in here going to BlizzCon? I'll be there filming for Blizzard. PM me if you're going (not to clutter this) and maybe I can get you on camera.

No ♥♥♥♥ing way! Thats amazing lol!

Im not going but im getting a virtual ticket. :)

[ianskate]

Enjoy the live stream, I'm working with the guys producing that part. I'll be sure to post some pictures if anybody's interested.

Anyway, I've changed the topic. Feel free to PM me with any more talk about BlizzCon.

[Forward Area]

Hey don't worry about it, we talk about pretty much everything in that thread that concerns blizzard. ;)

Good luck out there & I hope you have fun! I saw it last year and it was amazing. Im not expecting any less this year

[Neals_Aric]

Just played a game after a few days of absence, not too bad. Thought id share it with you guys. ZVT action on Metalopolis. I tried something new I learned from TLO : 3 hatch expand. Lets say it worked wonders :D I will try to work a build around this. It has potential to be very destructive.

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/92207-1v1-terran-zerg-metalopolis

Enjoy

That was a good game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WEpP2qpslU)

[Forward Area]

My 3 hatch build is based on that, as you have seen. :)

[fr00bl3t]

3 hatch build?

[Bearkin]

Sorry folks busy weekend just got back and was able to catch the friday night games only. :( I got some catching up to do so please bear with me! Heard IdrA won.. sigh I wanted HuK to win.

Just played a game after a few days of absence, not too bad. Thought id share it with you guys. ZVT action on Metalopolis. I tried something new I learned from TLO : 3 hatch expand. Lets say it worked wonders :D I will try to work a build around this. It has potential to be very destructive.

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/92207-1v1-terran-zerg-metalopolis

Enjoy

Why do you want me with you? ►_◄

[Excygy]

GSL SC2 Tournament season 2 has begun!

[Goggalor]

Blizzcon invitational: (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/936927)

Casted by StarCraft II Game Director Dustin Browder, Rob "Voice" Simpson, Sean "Day[9]" Plott, Nick "Tasteless" Plott, and Dan "Artosis" Stemkoski.

China
Dai “Loner” Yi
Ye “Luffy” Hao

Europe
Benjamin “mTwDeMusliM” Baker
Dario “TLAF-Liquid`TLO” Wünsch


Korea
Min-Soo “NEXGenius” Jung
Han-Eul “MakaPrime” Kwak

Latin America
Jian Carlo “Fenix” Morayra
Patricio “Capoch” del Olmo

North America
Christopher “HuK” Loranger
KyeongHyun “SeleCT” Ryoo

Russia
Dima “mTwDIMAGA” Filipchuk
Oleksiy “White-Ra” Krupnyk

Southeast Asia
Daryl “ice” Xiang
Thanapol “RedArchon” Kuachat

Taiwan
Chia-Cheng “SEN” Yang
Jen-Yu “SoftBall” Chan

Plus an exhibition match between BoxeR and FruitDealer

Bracket setup. (http://us.media1.battle.net/cms/blog_header/UHUAF0GMHZG51287451989554.jpg)

[Isy]

Holy ♥♥♥♥. And that's at Blizzcon? How much is a virtual ticket or can you watch it for free? (which I doubt)

[Zero_Vector]

£25. Thanks, but no thanks.

[Forward Area]

The two first games of Terran legend SlayerSBoxeR on youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKUOuj33YCE Game 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxCLyKzFLB4&feature=related Game 2

The games are in korean, sorry, but we have to admit that they find a way to make the games exciting :D

[Isy]

Boxer is insane. Makes me rage less at Terrans. :)

[Neals_Aric]

No, Huk, NO!

Blizzcon match between Fruitdealer and SlayerSBoxeRR. looks to be interesting. :D

EDIT: Oh MY GOD! Epic intense crazy game. Fruit Dealer is King

[Excygy]

No, Huk, NO!

Blizzcon match between Fruitdealer and SlayerSBoxeRR. looks to be interesting. :D

those two went to blizzcon and will go back to the GSL after???

or does this match count for the GSL too?





anyway i miss tasteless and artosis at GSL, jason is doing fine, but he doesn't have the wit of those two.

[Goshawk]

those two went to blizzcon and will go back to the GSL after???

or does this match count for the GSL too?





anyway i miss tasteless and artosis at GSL, jason is doing fine, but he doesn't have the wit of those two.

It's just a showmatch for SC2, nothing to do with GSL. GSL will continue after Blizzcon.

[Goggalor]

wow, way to fail the stream in the middle of your headliner match blizzard.


Even though, secretly inside, I wanted one of the players or the host to lag out, just to make the point that Blizzard needs to implement lan.

[Zero_Vector]

LAN? In a popular tournament game? What kind of sensible talk is that?!

[Excygy]

wow, way to fail the stream in the middle of your headliner match blizzard.


Even though, secretly inside, I wanted one of the players or the host to lag out, just to make the point that Blizzard needs to implement lan.

well they used to have lan, just not in SC2, because everything is Bnet now, even the missions.

[Bearkin]

I got promoted to the Platinum league, BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!

[Neals_Aric]

I got promoted to the Platinum league, BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!

Congrats! :D

I've been having trouble getting past the plat league, I've been sitting in the top ten for a while now.

We should play a game!:)

[Bearkin]

Congrats! :D

I've been having trouble getting past the plat league, I've been sitting in the top ten for a while now.

We should play a game!:)

Totally, what's your name and identifier?

My name is You, but I can never remember my identifier.

I was actually in the Silver league after playing about 8 games when the game came out. I quit for over a month, came back, played like 5 games, and got put into Gold. Then I played 2 games this morning and it put me in Platinum =D

I'm sure I can get to Diamond if I put some effort into it. Getting ti platinum or ezsauce.

[thejuice027]

I'm still in the practice league. Any tips for me?

[Isy]

I've been in the top five of Silver for well over a month now, but I keep switching races at the moment. I really comfortable with Protoss, somewhat as Terran and I'm starting to get my ♥♥♥♥ together as Zerg. Might go Random now.

[Mudkipz]

I have barely played any ranked games, played like 2 in the past month and a half, lost both. I am on the bottom of Bronze funfun /sigh I think I have given up and will just watch games=)

[Bearkin]

I'm still in the practice league. Any tips for me?

-***Use control groups. Assign armies AND building such as army producing building (barracks, gateweays) and main bases (command center, nexus) to numbers (1, 2, 3, etc.) This will significantly reduce how often you forget to make units. Using control groups changed me from struggling to get into gold to easily getting into Platinum.***

-Scout. Most people think scouting is entering their base right at the beginning and leaving, which is wrong. Go in, see what they have, and either harass (attack) or leave. Go back in 30 seconds later to see what's different. Keep doing until they have something to kill your scout.

-Micro. Learn how to properly fight with your race. With Terran, if you're being attacked by melee, click to walk backwards, hit S to make them stop and take 1 shot, then move back again, hit S, and repeat. With Protoss, use sentries to make force fields and split the enemy army in half so you can take the army out one half at a time.

-Learn proper build order. Watch tutorial videos on YouTube to see what should be built first. This only really helps for the first couple minutes because after that, you should be decided what to do next based on what the enemy's race is and what the enemy is doing.

-Expand. If you focus only on army, if the enemy can hold off your attack after expanding, you almost certainly lost the game.

-Backdoor. Use Medivacs and other carriers units to bring your army into the back of the enemy's base and unleash on his base from behind. Make sure you know when to retreat into your carrier. Also, some maps have destructible rocks that lead into the back of the enemy's base. Use these to get in their base.

-Harass. Use reapers and zerglings to get a quick unit early in the game into the enemy's base and harass them. In late game, use ghosts, banshees, dark templars, and burrowed units to harass. Note that in lower leagues, these techniques can actually win the game. In higher leagues, this will only bother and/or slow down enemy production.

Hope that helps!

[thejuice027]

-***Use control groups. Assign armies AND building such as army producing building (barracks, gateweays) and main bases (command center, nexus) to numbers (1, 2, 3, etc.) This will significantly reduce how often you forget to make units. Using control groups changed me from struggling to get into gold to easily getting into Platinum.***

-Scout. Most people think scouting is entering their base right at the beginning and leaving, which is wrong. Go in, see what they have, and either harass (attack) or leave. Go back in 30 seconds later to see what's different. Keep doing until they have something to kill your scout.

-Micro. Learn how to properly fight with your race. With Terran, if you're being attacked by melee, click to walk backwards, hit S to make them stop and take 1 shot, then move back again, hit S, and repeat. With Protoss, use sentries to make force fields and split the enemy army in half so you can take the army out one half at a time.

-Learn proper build order. Watch tutorial videos on YouTube to see what should be built first. This only really helps for the first couple minutes because after that, you should be decided what to do next based on what the enemy's race is and what the enemy is doing.

-Expand. If you focus only on army, if the enemy can hold off your attack after expanding, you almost certainly lost the game.

-Backdoor. Use Medivacs and other carriers units to bring your army into the back of the enemy's base and unleash on his base from behind. Make sure you know when to retreat into your carrier. Also, some maps have destructible rocks that lead into the back of the enemy's base. Use these to get in their base.

-Harass. Use reapers and zerglings to get a quick unit early in the game into the enemy's base and harass them. In late game, use ghosts, banshees, dark templars, and burrowed units to harass. Note that in lower leagues, these techniques can actually win the game. In higher leagues, this will only bother and/or slow down enemy production.

Hope that helps!

Thanks, I actually got the game because I got sick on Gas Powered Games and Supreme Commander 2. They wern't banning the people who were cheating. I just got sick and tired of it.

[Goggalor]

I'm still in the practice league. Any tips for me?
Watch day[9]daily #132 (http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3732340/) (really starts around 5 minutes in, but blip TV doesn't let you jump ahead :( )

Essentially this:

1) Keep your money low
2) Never ever get supply blocked
3) Always be building workers
4) Always be building units (army)
5) Use hotkeys for EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!

You can practice all of these using this multitasking trainer (http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/multitasking-trainer/). If you are having a hard time, modify the map so that there is a wall between proberto and the zergling.

For now, forget micro. Until you get to diamond, most games (that don't involve cheese) come down to how well you can macro.

Don't forget to watch more day9dailies (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154), they are incredibly helpful! His shows are sun-thurs from 7pm to around 8pm PST.

[Isy]

And he's incredibly entertaining!

[Foenetik]

day9 special episode in about three and a half hours. :)

[Goggalor]

day9 special episode in about three and a half hours. :)Yeah, I can't wait! Its about a week overdue.

[Neals_Aric]

Totally, what's your name and identifier?

My name is You, but I can never remember my identifier.

I was actually in the Silver league after playing about 8 games when the game came out. I quit for over a month, came back, played like 5 games, and got put into Gold. Then I played 2 games this morning and it put me in Platinum =D

I'm sure I can get to Diamond if I put some effort into it. Getting ti platinum or ezsauce.

For anyone who wants to add me, my name is Xerael and my code is 864. :D

[ianskate]

Was anybody watching the SC2 final when the power went out on the stage? Did the live stream go down?

Note: I was filming on the stage when I saw the screens go out... then the crowd got rowdy.

[Isy]

Was Day9's special episodes on last night? It was like 3am here and I usually catch up on www.day9tv.blip.tv but he hasn't uploaded anything yet.

[Excygy]

I was just wondering during SC competitions, how to they match up players?

Is it totally random?
Is it semi-calculated (ex : avoid ZvZ at start when there is few Z in the game)
or is it calculated (ex: Avoiding putting Fruitdealer Vs SlayerBoxer in round of 64)


?

[Goggalor]

Was Day9's special episodes on last night? It was like 3am here and I usually catch up on www.day9tv.blip.tv but he hasn't uploaded anything yet.Nah, he did a regular daily of Demuslim's zerg play at blizzcon. The special D9D will be on thursday.

[Goggalor]

I was just wondering during SC competitions, how to they match up players?

Is it totally random?
Is it semi-calculated (ex : avoid ZvZ at start when there is few Z in the game)
or is it calculated (ex: Avoiding putting Fruitdealer Vs SlayerBoxer in round of 64)


?Generally in a bracket they "seed" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrkSElfm7Lk&feature=player_embedded#t=0m35s) players so that those players who are better are matched up against easier opponents early, and then later are faced against each other. Basically in the first round, the #1 player faces the worst, the #2 player is against the 2nd worst, and so on. They are also placed far apart on the bracket, so that there is a lesser chance of the 2 best players meeting before the finals.

[KingGamer]

Im planning on getting SC2 soon so until then does anyone have tips or videos that would help a noob.

[Bearkin]

Im planning on getting SC2 soon so until then does anyone have tips or videos that would help a noob.

Scroll up, I left a list of useful tips.

[Neals_Aric]

The hell? I can't play for a week because of tests and I'm put down to rank 15!?

This won't do :mad:

[Bearkin]

The hell? I can't play for a week because of tests and I'm put down to rank 15!?

This won't do :mad:

Get them games going.

Bonus pool will help =D

[Goggalor]

Im planning on getting SC2 soon so until then does anyone have tips or videos that would help a noob.

Look on the previous page.

[Excygy]

idra was really great yesterday in GSL. He did better then the last season.

[Jinoruizraged]

Hey noobs

http://www.tinleague.com/

some guys fairly local to me made a SC2 noobcast.

[KingGamer]

Hey noobs

http://www.tinleague.com/

some guys fairly local to me made a SC2 noobcast.


Thank you O wise master.

[Jinoruizraged]

I'm hardly a master. :)

[Excygy]

if you can you should all look the match oGsZenio VS IMmvp on GSL.


All the match where very high level TvZ

[Goggalor]

EG Master's Cup streaming this weekend with Day9 and DJWheat casting. (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/djwheat#utm_campaigne=synclickback&source=deniedbyhost&medium=369751)

[Goggalor]

2v2, neural parasite opponent's mothership, vortex army, drop nuke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UG3HzUhVcY)

[Jagged Tooth]

2v2, neural parasite opponent's mothership, vortex army, drop nuke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UG3HzUhVcY)
That is so epic.

[Isy]

2v2, neural parasite opponent's mothership, vortex army, drop nuke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UG3HzUhVcY)

Lol awesome!

[Scared]

Holy crap that was awesome

[Goggalor]

Yeah, they ended up losing the game (they didn't expand, and other team took the whole map) but that was an epic move just the same.

[Isy]

Did any of you guys catch yesterdays Day9 Daily? I didn't think I could laugh that during a Starcraft II match. Day9 is so hilarious.

[Mudkipz]

Did any of you guys catch yesterdays Day9 Daily? I didn't think I could laugh that during a Starcraft II match. Day9 is so hilarious.

Might need to watch it today then.

[Excygy]

Did any of you guys catch yesterdays Day9 Daily? I didn't think I could laugh that during a Starcraft II match. Day9 is so hilarious.


You obviously have never watched a "Tastosis" (Tasteless & Artosis) Match

[Goggalor]

Did any of you guys catch yesterdays Day9 Daily? I didn't think I could laugh that during a Starcraft II match. Day9 is so hilarious.I missed it, I'm going to watch it in a few minutes. (http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4325965/) I heard it was caffeine fueled hilarity at its finest.

You obviously have never watched a "Tastosis" (Tasteless & Artosis) MatchThey can be funny, but nothing can touch funday monday.

[Foenetik]

MLG Dallas National Championships feat IdrA, TLO, HuK, Day9, djWHEAT & more! (http://events.mlgpro.com/takeovers/procircuit/titles/starcraft?site_id=mlgpro)

pre-show just started :)

[Isy]

Terrible echo. I can hardly make out what wheat and Day9 are saying or is it just me?

[Foenetik]

I'm thinking it's just you, it sounds perfectly normal to me.

edit: apparently other people are getting it as well. they're saying muting and un-muting fixes it.

[Goggalor]

Holy ♥♥♥♥, did any of you watch the TLO vs Torch games?

I love TLO, so creative. This is his first appearance as zerg, and I'm not disappointed in the least. Can't wait till tomorrow.

[Mudkipz]

Couldn't get it to work last night (ended up just watching the 2nd game of Boxer vs FruitDealer as I hadn't watched all of it, and was trying to explain it to a friend who has like never seen SC2 before).

[Zero_Vector]

I'm sure all the thread regulars know about this, but it's worth posting because it's so interesting. I'd love to see what strategies this algorithm comes up with for other races.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/11/02/genetic-algorithms-find-build-order-from-hell/

[Isy]

Damn, is anyone watching MLG Dallas at the moment? Machine vs Select Bo3, brilliant Zerg play.

[Excygy]

Nestea lost no matchs yet and he's in finale versus Foxer




edit : SO.MANY.BANELINGS! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0MzwiKfRvM)

[Goggalor]

Both Huk and IdrA knocked down into the loser's bracket. Lots of upsets today.

[thejuice027]

I'm sure all the thread regulars know about this, but it's worth posting because it's so interesting. I'd love to see what strategies this algorithm comes up with for other races.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/11/02/genetic-algorithms-find-build-order-from-hell/

out of the 5 ♥♥♥♥ing times i tried this, only won once. its a ♥♥♥♥in fail tactic.

[Goggalor]

Wow, TLO is so good. I can't believe he won that first game vs kiwikaki.

[Mudkipz]

Both Huk and IdrA knocked down into the loser's bracket. Lots of upsets today.

And another upset to add to that!

[Goggalor]

And another upset to add to that!Kiwi losing? TLO is an incredible player. I think the upset would be if TLO lost.

[Mudkipz]

Kiwi losing? TLO is an incredible player. I think the upset would be if TLO lost.

Yea they are both great players, but Kiwi was seeded higher. [Not sure where TLO was seeded.]

[Goggalor]

Yea they are both great players, but Kiwi was seeded higher. [Not sure where TLO was seeded.]TLO isn't seeded since this is his first MLG. He is an old BW player, very good, and very creative. You almost never know what he is going to do because he doesn't play "standard play."

[Mudkipz]

TLO isn't seeded since this is his first MLG. He is an old BW player, very good, and very creative. You almost never know what he is going to do because he doesn't play "standard play."

Oh okay, yea, I wondered why I didn't see him any the other bits of MLG I watched (I watched quite a few of his other games though, I do quite like him).

[Zero_Vector]

out of the 5 ♥♥♥♥ing times i tried this, only won once. its a ♥♥♥♥in fail tactic.

Well obviously the build alone won't win you the game, it requires some micro too. Also, if your opponent knows it's coming it can be countered.

[Mudkipz]

oo TLO vs HuK just starting. Should be good.

[Goggalor]

oo TLO vs HuK just starting. Should be good.That was a hard one to watch. I'm a toss player, love huk and always root for him.

TLO is just so awesome though, and I want to see him take this tourney.

[Bugs Bunny]

TLO is just so awesome though, and I want to see him take this tourney.

ye, I usually don't choose favorites in starcraft but that guy pulls some sweet moves...

also wondering if anyone knows what the specs are on those pcs they use, +what mice, keyboards, headsets the best players use... curious which players use super cheap gear that they're good on instead of the most expensive stuff...

and omg at Jinro vs Pain.User at stealing mineral at the start... :)

[Isy]

They all have different prferences, but I did see a lot of Steelseries Siberia v2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0035ER6H8/ref=s9_bbs_gw_d0_ir02?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0KDGH0VNVYD12YBEDF66&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294) headsets. Thinking of getting one myself.

[Goggalor]

ye, I usually don't choose favorites in starcraft but that guy pulls some sweet moves...

also wondering if anyone knows what the specs are on those pcs they use, +what mice, keyboards, headsets the best players use... curious which players use super cheap gear that they're good on instead of the most expensive stuff...

and omg at Jinro vs Pain.User at stealing mineral at the start... :)They keyboards are usually simple, durable ones. (http://starfeeder.gameriot.com/blogs/Tasteless/Secrets-of-StarCraft-Pro-Gamers-The-competitive-keyboard) You almost never see them use specific gaming keyboards.

Razor mice are very very popular.

[miX_]

Hey, is there any one down for a few training 1v1s? I'm a complete n00bz0r and I seriously need to pick up the basics of the game. I play Zerg, if anyone wouuld be willing to teach me a few things it'd be greatly appreciated.

[Isy]

Here we go, the finals. Liquid Jinro vs TTOne.

[Mudkipz]

Missed all but the first 5mins of the losers finals.

[Plank]

My real id friends keep being deleted but other friends on the list are fine. Does anyone know why?

[Jagged Tooth]

Is there anyway to watch any of the MLG games that have already happened? I had an assignment due today so I have missed quite a few good games.

[Foenetik]

ugh. disconnect. :eek:


Is there anyway to watch any of the MLG games that have already happened?

you can download matches from here (http://www.mlgpro.com/ci/brackets/procircuit/10/dallas/sc2/open/winners). not sure about vods though.

[Mudkipz]

Well done BNet.

[Isy]

Pff, we don't need LAN!

[Isy]

lol Day9 showmatch!

[Foenetik]

this is pretty gd ridiculous.

the showmatch was fun though. "go away I'm busy -_-"

[Jagged Tooth]

ugh. disconnect. :eek:




you can download matches from here (http://www.mlgpro.com/ci/brackets/procircuit/10/dallas/sc2/open/winners). not sure about vods though.

Thanks for that.

[Isy]

Wow, I'd be pissed if I was either of the two finalists.

[Goggalor]

BNet fail hardcore.

[Goggalor]

Hey, is there any one down for a few training 1v1s? I'm a complete n00bz0r and I seriously need to pick up the basics of the game. I play Zerg, if anyone wouuld be willing to teach me a few things it'd be greatly appreciated.Day9daily 132 and 194 (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154), then watch as many as you can. Try to catch the live stream as well, as they are so much better live with the chat going.

[Jinoruizraged]

Patch 1.1.3 is out.

Made Thors prioritize attacking ground units instead of Medivacs. :/ Plus a Replay fix. and something else...

[Isy]

Hey Forward, you might want to add these videos to the OP for newcomers who don't know which race they might like. It's an overview for each race narrated by Jim Raynor himself.

Terran Overview
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmu8PsUDDtQ)
Protoss Overview
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0g0MpllFCs&feature=channel)
Zerg Overview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq74R7wWAnQ&feature=channel)

[Flamov]

Cool interview with IdrA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW_d10Lavyk

He's a good guy, regardless of how and why he rages. He admits his weaknesses and talks about why he got beaten in a very mannered way.

[miX_]

I've been trying to hardcore learn to play the actual game and holy crap am I ever getting my ♥♥♥ handed to me.

8 in a row losses. Makes me wonder why I was placed in Gold.

[Neals_Aric]

I've been trying to hardcore learn to play the actual game and holy crap am I ever getting my ♥♥♥ handed to me.

8 in a row losses. Makes me wonder why I was placed in Gold.

Don't forget that you still got two leagues ahead of you in Gold. It's not that great.

Practice is the only way to go, we've all had losing streaks and bad days. Learn from your mistakes :D

[miX_]

I try to learn.. I find that I always end up with 1000 minerals half way through the game. I just don't even know what to do half the time, time to download some pro replays I guess.

*goes back to HuskyStarcraft*

[Foenetik]

for those of you who weren't up at 4 in the morning here are the gsl finals between boxer and zergbong (http://www.livestream.com/kim347/video?clipId=pla_d3202feb-3922-4b58-aa87-364a5e74f811).

match starts at an hour and twenty minutes, or the hour mark if you want to hear some trash talk and meet the players mothers. :D

[Jinoruizraged]

Anyone seen this?
http://www.moddb.com/mods/starcraft-source1

[Flamov]

Husky has put up his 300,000 subscriber video, and it's hilarious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzMhh8zhTiY&feature=sub

[Ghostbreed]

Anyone seen this?
http://www.moddb.com/mods/starcraft-source1
looks horrible.

[Goggalor]

I try to learn.. I find that I always end up with 1000 minerals half way through the game. I just don't even know what to do half the time, time to download some pro replays I guess.

*goes back to HuskyStarcraft*
If you want to learn, ditch husky and go to day9. (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154) Husky is entertaining, but his knowledge about the game is severely lacking.

#132 will help the beginner the most. (http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3732340/)

Always be building workers (but don't queue)
Always be building units (but don't queue)
Never get supply blocked
Keep your money below 400 (unless you are expanding)

You do this by tapping your unit producing structure hotkeys and worker producing structure hotkey to make sure there is something being built.

Then check your supply to makes sure you aren't going to get supply blocked. If you need to build something, grab your builder (you have him hotkeyed, right) and build > hold shift > back to minerals.

Then glance at your cash. If its getting high and you're building from all your unit producing structures, then expand or build more unit producing structures.

For the time being, this should be the focus of your game. Hotkey your army to 1 control group and just attack command toward them. You should not take attention away from your macro until you can do so without your macro slipping. This will help you do so. (http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/multitasking-trainer/)

[Isy]

Yea, Husky is more enterainment and Day9 is more about learning the game, especially Friendday Wednesday with HuK helped my Protoss play. For the record, I find Day9 to be entertaining/funnier than Husky. TRUMPETS! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ1KimPwZW4)

[Jinoruizraged]

looks horrible.

Its an HL2 mod. Won't be an RTS, but an FPS. hehe.

If you want to learn, ditch husky and go to day9. (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154) Husky is entertaining, but his knowledge about the game is severely lacking.

#132 will help the beginner the most. (http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3732340/)

Always be building workers (but don't queue)
Always be building units (but don't queue)
Never get supply blocked
Keep your money below 400 (unless you are expanding)[/URL]

ffffffffffffffffUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. :D

[Foenetik]

gsl open season 3 is live right now. (http://www.gomtv.net/)

[Mudkipz]

Nice drone micro by Fruitdealer, he lost like 1drone to several lings.

[Foenetik]

more gsl open in 15 minutes, here's the schedule. (http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/schedule/)

[Mudkipz]

Oh dear, that game was just about to get interesting then one of the guys got an error and disconnected.

[Mudkipz]

Wow this Clide vs. Leenock series is amazing!
Damn I want to watch the end, but lecture soon.

I highly advise everyone to watch it hehe.

[miX_]

Wow, thanks for the post Goggalor, very helpful stuff. :)
I play Zerg, so I never have a worker hotkeyed, just my hatch. :/

Will watch some of those Day9 vids and see how it helps. Cheers man.
+Rep

[Isy]

How do you guys watch more than one game of the GSL? I can only ever watch the first game and if I try to watch the second or third, it wants me to buy a season ticket. How much are they anyway?

[Mudkipz]

How do you guys watch more than one game of the GSL? I can only ever watch the first game and if I try to watch the second or third, it wants me to buy a season ticket. How much are they anyway?

The test stream thing.

[Foenetik]

How do you guys watch more than one game of the GSL? I can only ever watch the first game and if I try to watch the second or third, it wants me to buy a season ticket. How much are they anyway?

you can watch all the series for free, but you have to do it live. this is usually problematic because of the massive time difference. for the vods, the first hit of the series is always free. after that you require a season pass, which is $20 the first time you order it and $15 every time after that.

clide vs leenock was awesome.

[Bugs Bunny]

that guinea pig guy is an interesting protoss player...

and that system error or whatever that ruined that TvZ game was lame :/

[Goggalor]

South Korean defense minister Kim Tae-young was questioned by one politician why the South's retaliation was delayed 13 minutes and not forceful enough, to which Kim replied, "This isn't StarCraft." (http://kotaku.com/5700983/south-korean-politician-on-korean-crisis-this-isnt-starcraft)

[Foenetik]

dreamhack grand finals are finally up. (http://day9tv.blip.tv/posts?view=archive&nsfw=dc) games 3 and 4 are especially noteworthy.

[fr00bl3t]

SC2 btw (http://g4tv.com/videogamedeathmatch/battle/32/)

I lol'd at all the AC comments saying SC2 is too hard.

[Goggalor]

dreamhack grand finals are finally up. (http://day9tv.blip.tv/posts?view=archive&nsfw=dc) games 3 and 4 are especially noteworthy.Wow, that was awesome! 3 and 4 are great, but you really need the context of 1 and 2 to feel the excitement.

[Goggalor]

Rumble in the Bronze (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoHvSBYGXEs&feature=player_embedded) grudge match casted by eg.incontrol.

[Forward Area]

Did you see this guy's arms? he would literaly snap anyone in half

[Jinoruizraged]

That will be the greatest tourney of all time. :D

[fr00bl3t]

w8, so they're all in bronze?

[Isy]

SC2 btw (http://g4tv.com/videogamedeathmatch/battle/32/)

I lol'd at all the AC comments saying SC2 is too hard.

Well looks like AC has to GG.

[Redhandlure]

Thanks to my friend who helped me improve :P , I finally got out of bronze league to silver league :D

[velvetmeds]

*votes for ME2*

[Flamov]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytWtVAj52jA
Team Liquid - 2v2v2v2!

Team 1:
TLAF-Liquid`Nazgul (Protoss) Purple
TLAF-Liquid`HuK (Protoss) Cyan

Team 2:
TLAF-Liquid`Tyler (Protoss) Green
TLAF-Liquid`Haypro (Terran) Dark Blue

Team 3:
TLAF-Liquid`TLO (Zerg) Red
TLAF-Liquid`Jinro (Terran) Yellow

Team 4:
TLAF-Liquid`Ret (Zerg) Orange
TLAF-Liquid`Drone (Zerg) Blue

[Jinoruizraged]

Starcraft 2 1.2 Public Test Update

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111662

[Flamov]

Starcraft 2 1.2 Public Test Update

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111662

Happy with some of the changes, but I'm a bit concerned about the bunker build time decrease. For most mediocre players, it can be quite hard to depend against a marine/reaper bunker rush, since it requires you to pull harvesters off the line (and most people are quite apprehensive about it.). Although... I'm pretty concerned about pheonix rushes. I've seen some fantastic use of early pheonix... but thank god infestors can't attack air units anymore, been quite annoyed about that.

Also happy about the chat channels extreme graphics option and mouse button for push-to-talk (finally).

[Jinoruizraged]

yay, I can bind my Mouse wheel for PTT now! :D

[Goggalor]

Zerg nydus vs terran (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oabPkWOyvI)

[Foenetik]

GSL season 3 finals - oGsMC vs TSL_Rain (http://www.justin.tv/tpfour/videos)

also, g4tv.com is streaming the evil geniuses master's cup finals today and tomorrow which will be casted by djWHEAT and Day9. stream starts at 2:30 pm est. (http://g4tv.com/masterscup)

[Excygy]

The GSL3 finale was not that epic, but i'm happy that _____ won.

[xMaggostx]

Oh god! i just started to play SC2 and i really want to know some Zerg builds, i love that race and i want to be a dedicated Zerg.

[velvetmeds]

if anyone wants a SC2 guest pass let me know, got one from buying cataclysm

[Jinoruizraged]

Starcraft II Demo Available now:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1797995

[Goshawk]

Oh god! i just started to play SC2 and i really want to know some Zerg builds, i love that race and i want to be a dedicated Zerg.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Zerg_Strategy

[Neals_Aric]

Anyone up for a Christmas eve game?

[fr00bl3t]

I'm up

[Neals_Aric]

Nifty PMed!

[Flamov]

New song by Husky: SCV Love Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zwP9ErgIWs)

[Forward Area]

What the hell LOL!

[Isy]

Well butter my biscuit ...

[Bugs Bunny]

code s live on gomtv now, mhhmmm I heard Idra will be playing Jinro, not today but that will be epic...

[Flamov]

Two custom maps you guys should try out:

'Smashcraft' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2drlenCjdY)
'Star Battle' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBbVqR3Euf4)

[Forward Area]

Good morning guys, patch 1.2 notes have been released and we should expect the patch to go live today. Southeast Asia has already been patched.



StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty – Patch 1.2.0

General

* Battle.net Chat Channels have been added! Players can now join others in both public and private channels.
o Added in-game chat bar command to whisper to other players. Using the "/w" command will open up a list of available friends, party members, chat channels, and other players within your current game.
o Added Battle.net option to auto-join previous private channels.
o Added Battle.net option to prevent chat channel text from appearing in in-game chat display.
* A new Master League has been added! This league now represents the highest tier of players.
* Customizable Hotkey Support has been added.
* Stalemate Detection has been added. This will end the game in a tie for all remaining players if no players have income, production, or destroyed structures for three consecutive minutes. A countdown timer will now appear when the game detects this scenario.
* An Extreme graphics option is now available. Players can now configure screen space ambient occlusion.



Additional Improvements and Changes

* Several help dialogue and tech tree improvements have been made:
o In-game help is now available in Battle.net.
o The help dialog’s tech tree has been improved.
o Unit information in the help dialog now displays abilities and upgrades.
* Several Save/Replay File dialogue improvements have been made:
o Added ability to sort replays and saved games by name and date.
o Added ability to right-click and rename a replay or saved game from within the game interface.
o Added a new tab for auto-saved games and unsaved replays.
o Added an option to permanently save all replays. Checking this option will mark all unsaved replays as being saved.
o Added visibility for where replays and saved games are being saved to.
o Added a "Show in Folder" button which will open the location where a replay or saved game is stored on your computer.
* Camera following behavior for observers and replays has been improved.
* The System Alert panel has been moved to the top of the screen and the duration of most system alerts has been reduced.
* Mouse buttons can now be bound to the Push-To-Talk hotkey.
* A hotkey indicator option has been added to show the primary hotkey on top of command buttons.
* When selecting a Vespene geyser, the number of current harvesters will be displayed in the info panel.
* Added an option to disable any error sounds. The Response Sounds checkbox now controls whether unit-specific audio is used for error sounds instead of a generic buzz.
* Added Game UI layout per-map overrides. Map makers can now use custom UI layout files to create new UI or override existing game UI.
* Added a toggle button to the in-game replay panel to Show or Hide the timeline/duration information.
* Added hotkey to Pause/Resume game for both single player and multiplayer (Pause/Break key).



Balance

* GENERAL
o Players can no longer block off ramps with two 2x2 buildings.

* PROTOSS
o Hallucination research time decreased from 110 to 80.
o Observer
+ Cost decreased from 50/100 to 25/75.
o Phoenix
+ Build time decreased from 45 to 35.
o Void Ray
+ Now deals 20% more damage to massive targets.
+ Flux Vanes speed upgrade removed.

* TERRAN
o SCV
+ Repairing SCVs now assume the same threat priority as the unit they’re repairing.
+ SCV construction movement has been made more consistent.



StarCraft II Editor Improvements

* Map locale management has been added.
* Further editor tips and hints have been added.
* New trigger functions, actions, and events have been added:
o New trigger functions:
+ Verify Bank - used to verify that a bank’s signature is intact.
o New trigger actions:
+ Bank Option - used to change options for banks including adding a signature.
+ Remove Inventory Item - used to instantly remove a requested item from an inventory.
+ Set Visibility Type Of Text Tag - used to control whether fog or black mask hides the tag.
o New trigger events:
+ Mouse Moved - sent in response to the mouse being moved in the game world.
* New unit properties have been added:
o Carried Minerals, Carried Vespene, Carried Terrazine, and Carried Custom Resource.
o Bounty (XP) - used to grant experience when a unit is killed.
* New Effect Used event property has been added: Life, Shields, and Energy changed.
* Copy/paste support has been added to the upgrade editor.
* Behaviors can now be replaced by either the shortest duration (the original method) or by farthest distance.
* Behavior abilities can now properly charge the player using the ability instead of always charging the owner.
* Right clicking an item in an inventory will now have the icon appear immediately next to the cursor.
* Font Style Files can now be added to Mods and Maps using the FontStyleFileArray field in GameUIData. Existing styles can have their individual attributes overridden or entirely new styles can be added.
* UI Layout files can now be added to Mods and Maps using the CustomLayoutFileArray filed in GameUIData. Most existing frames can be modified or overridden and entirely new templates can be added which can be created from the Dialog system within the Editor.
* Attributes and values can now be hidden in the game lobby and can be configured through Game Variants.
* The mouse wheel now scrolls the control under the cursor.
* Copied doodads now retain their height offset.
* Attribute and Veterancy behaviors now normalize vitals when new levels are applied.
* Mouse clicks & highlights are now allowed while in relative camera mode.
* Edit boxes are now available for trigger dialogs.
* The game will now properly find custom imported files within mods.
* Maps can now depend on even more mods.
* Dialog Items can now be hooked up from already existing frames within a created Panel.
* Change Focus commands are now available in the Trigger module View menu for switching input focus directly to different areas.
* The water editor layout has been improved.
* Effect offsets can now optionally contain a Z component.
* Added a new type of Dialog Item called Panel. Panels are containers for other dialog items to help with grouping and hierarchy.
* Added new UI to insert text tags for data references, unit info, and hotkeys.
* Added an effect range to the effect ability to restrict how far away the effect can be placed. This will allow effects to behave like the Stalker Blink effect.
* Added a behavior flag to suppress fidgeting.
* Added a new stalemate melee option to determine whether the stalemate detection checking is enforced.
* Added a new “Creator” player to effects. It will be set to the player issuing an order if available.
* Added a new type of item that can use an effect ability.
* Added a validator that checks to see if a unit can path to a point.
* Added a validator that checks if there is a cliff between two points.
* Added MinimapRenderPriority to CActorUnit and MinimapRenderPriorityList to CActorGlobalConfig. This allows custom map makers to define the render priorities of units on the minimap.
* Added a Locale sub-menu in the Mod menu for changing the active text locale for the current document.
* Added a Mod Info dialog in the Mod menu for more easily changing mod name and description text.
* Added a Modify Locales dialog (also in Locale sub-menu) for adding or removing text locales.
* Added an Editor Tips dialog in the Help menu (and optionally on start up) with tips for using the editor effectively.



Bug Fixes

* Gameplay
o General
+ All diagonal ramps are now the same with regards to unbuildable locations at the bottom of the ramps.
+ Critter health bars are now hidden unless highlighted or selected (if status bars are set to show when units are selected).
+ Orders can no longer be canceled by clicking on the info panel in challenges before the challenge begins.
+ Text tags are now paused when the game is paused.
+ Autocast state for abilities will now reset to the default state when unit ownership is permanently changed.
+ Autocast repair will now charge the player requesting autocast functionality.
+ Repair will now clear its autocast state if the owning player leaves the game.
+ Harvest orders no longer end if an order is queued while waiting to return cargo.
+ Harvesting units no longer avoid enemy units.
+ Hold position units no longer automatically move out of the way when placing a building.
+ Enemy units no longer show passive buttons in the command card.
+ Missiles are no longer affected by Vortex.
+ Actors with a large number of create events no longer crash the map.
+ Fixed an issue where cliff jumping units were able to traverse unpathable terrain.
+ Fixed an issue with units trying to get out of the way so buildings can be constructed.
+ Fixed an issue with harvesting units bypassing force fields.
+ Fixed an issue where melee units were unable to attack a colossus when it was on a cliff.
+ Fixed an issue where larva would not wander around.
+ Fixed an issues where loading a saved Challenge could improperly overwrite the best score.
+ Fixed an issue with animation stutters when flying units are separating.
+ Fixed an issue where units could push opposing units when they shouldn't have been able to.
+ Added "Detector" text to the info panel for units which can detect cloaked or burrowed units.
+ Added combat reveal tinting to help show that combat reveal units cannot be hit.
o Protoss
+ Protoss structures can no longer be powered without a power source if constructed while powered by a Warp Prism under the effects of Neural Parasite.
+ Mass Recall can no longer target larva or eggs.
+ Fixed an issue where units that were picked up by a Graviton Beam would still block pathing on the ground.
+ Fixed an issue where a Zealot could burn its Charge cooldown without actually moving.
o Terran
+ Changed the position of the Select Builder button on Terran buildings, and changed the hotkey to Q.
+ SCVs can no longer continue construction on a building from inside an adjacent bunker.
+ Fixed nuke dot not being visible all the time.
+ Fixed an issue where you could see an enemy MULE drop pod in some cases where you didn’t have vision of the target location.
+ Fixed an issue where a Medivac would be able to continue healing a unit that was stuck in a Graviton Beam if the Medivac had started healing the unit before it was picked up by the Graviton Beam.
+ Fixed an issue where a Thor would continue to channel 250mm Strike Cannons on an uplifted Terran building if it lifted off at just the right time.
+ Fixed an issue where a Thor could get stuck channeling if a player queued up multiple targets for 250mm Strike Cannons.
+ Fixed an issue where SCVs could continue repairing at a short range even though the structure they were repairing was blocked by Force Fields.
o Zerg
+ Creep will now spread evenly in all directions.
+ The Burrow and Cancel Neural Parasite buttons have been moved on the command card.
+ Fixed an issue with Ultralisk unable to attack a row of sensor towers.

* StarCraft II Editor
o The “For Each Real” and “For Each Integer” actions will now correctly execute once when the starting and ending bounds are equal while the increment is also zero.
o Items dropped from an inventory will now use their default height when dropped.
o The View Script command will now view library scripts if the library list has focus.
o Carried and equipped item behaviors and weapons are now restored properly when a unit is revived.
o Publish dialog now updates storage information after removing a published file in the Managed Published window.
o Dropdowns now correctly select items as you type using partial matching.
o Standard dependencies can no longer be modified in the Dependencies dialog (only added or removed).
o Camera following can no longer be disabled via hotkeys if it was requested via triggers.
o Fixed an issue with editing stylized text values when using system locales other than English.
o Fixed an issue with Veterancy experience share filters.
o Fixed an issue when editing mover data where values were not being saved correctly.
o Fixed an issue that prevented certain changes to angle values.
o Fixed an issue where selection circles would drop when a flying unit was over a cliff.
o Fixed an issue where the scroll bar for tree views could disappear.
o Fixed an issue where triggers setting the mouse relative could result in the mouse being stuck in relative move mode.
o Fixed an issue where setting the color of a dialog item of type label wasn’t working.
o Fixed a crash that could occur while editing upgrade values.
o Fixed text truncation with Set Text actor message.
o Fixed display of ability command links in the Overview Manager.
o Fixed many areas where English text was displayed instead of localized text.
o Fixed a crash when destroying a persistent effect.



New icon for Master League. (http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/4717/newicons.png)

[velvetmeds]

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/fan-made-starcraft-mmo-in-the-works

[Forward Area]

It got shutdown by blizz earlier on.. did you see? thats ♥♥♥♥ed up

sigh

some speculate blizz made this move because their next-gen mmo that they keep to themselves might actually be starcraft related

[Jinoruizraged]

Titan=SC Universe? hmmm...

[Forward Area]

well its just a codename... i remember diablo 3 being under the 'hydra' codename

[Jinoruizraged]

Good to know. I haven't really followed Blizz all that much ever. If it is SC though I hope they call it something very different than World of Starcraft. :p

[Forward Area]

hahaha well i was just throwing this out here, its just a speculation i saw on some gaming website

[velvetmeds]

Didn't know it got shut down..that's a shame.

Hmm i doubt it means titan is SC related, it could simply be because they're still hoping to someday make a SC MMO, even if it's the next decade.

As much as i like SC, i'd prefer world of diablo :3

[Forward Area]

Yeah i dont think thats very likely since diablo 3 is just around the corner. Man i just can't wait for that game!!!!!!!!!11

[Excygy]

Do you know when it's the Next GSL session (4?)

[Zero_Vector]

Quite a ♥♥♥♥ move by Bliz to try and shut down that mod, although if it were me making it I would have chosen a less copyright-flaunting name.

[Foenetik]

Do you know when it's the Next GSL session (4?)

sorry, it started jan 2nd. you have A LOT to catch up on so go here (http://www.justin.tv/tpfour/videos), the beginning of the season is on the 18th page. there have been some insane matches so far, and recently gomtv has been breaking due to the amount of people trying to watch.

even if you don't watch the whole season just go back and watch slayersboxer vs hyperdub.

[Redhandlure]

Bunker Rush Success
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwQPiUYS8Bg

[Foenetik]

in regards to the c&d for the world of starcraft mod:

"The Deputy General Council from Blizzard contacted me last night to discuss the details of the 'World of Starcraft' project," Winzen said on Wednesday. "We talked for a while and apparently some people from Blizzard were concerned I was developing the game somehow outside of SC2. Anyways I explained the details of the project to him and made it clear this mod was to be developed within SC2."

He went on to reveal an interesting little tidbit. "After that was clear he obviously wanted the name to be changed," he added. "I'm trying to work with him to get the name StarCraft Universe (currently in holding by Mille25) or StarCraft Chronicles. I am fully respectful of Blizzard's Intellectual property, and they DO in fact own a copyright on 'World of StarCraft' and have EVERY RIGHT to do what they did. If I want to continue this project I'm at the mercy of Blizzard's good graces since they OWN it all."

At this point, the MMORPG still looks to be alive and kicking as long as it remains within StarCraft II and doesn't use the World of StarCraft name. However, despite whether the mod lives or dies, the project and accompanying attention from Activision Blizzard has caught the eye of game developer/publisher Riot Games (League of Legends).

"When I see a modder with a lot of drive that has done something cool, I tend to contact them," said Zileas, Design Director of Riot Games. "I shot him an email recently asking if he was interested in exploring an opportunity here. As to what comes of that, who knows -- that depends on the mutual fit and his own goals."

Winzen said that the developer contacted him for a potential position in game design. "I'm not special though I will have to go through the application process and testing like everyone else, and this is not a 100-percent guaranteed thing, and I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to do at the moment," he admitted. "There's a lot going on outside of what I've even mentioned here."

[Jinoruizraged]

Riot Games is so annoying...

[velvetmeds]

God no, go away mister Zileas. Let this guy do the SC mmo and screw you and Riot games.

[Ghostbreed]

people still playing starcraft..? oh dear.

[Forward Area]

people still playing starcraft..? oh dear.

Yeah.. and?

ON topic : so basically it was just a misunderstanding with the name correct?

[Excygy]

people still playing starcraft..? oh dear.

it's been 10 years and people keep playing the first one a lot. the second one will stuill be alive for a while, especially after all the 2 expansion come out and msot bugs are fixed.


prooving that SC2 is a great game compared to many modern game (even if i barely play it)

[velvetmeds]

why wouldn't people play starcraft?

[Shadoww0lf]

why wouldn't people play starcraft?

Bad multiplayer management.

[Flamov]

people still playing starcraft..? oh dear.

:rolleyes:

Bad multiplayer management.

How so?

[Jinoruizraged]

Bad multiplayer management.

It does just fine. The Matchmaking is more solid than any other game I think, they now have chat channels so its easier to find certain people now and its pretty painless to add friends.

[velvetmeds]

SC2's multiplayer is made of so much awesomeness i can't even stand it.