My fps seem to be a bit low

[barnard09]

Ok, so I have been trying to find the answer to this problem for a while so I am willing to pay the person that finds the answer. I will give them £10 through paypal or buy them a game through steam worth £10 or under.

Problem

I get lower fps than I should be expecting for my rig in all games. In CSS for example in a game with 20 or more players the fps goes from 20 to 200. In Oblivion my game stays around 20 fps when people are using magic. Same with TF2, garrysmod and basically all my other games.

Info


amd phenom 940 x 4 @ 3Ghz
4GB DDR2 Ram
ATI 4890
HAF 932
asus M3N78 pro
500 GB WD 32mb HDD
corsair 750 watt

I game at 1080p, normally on high with 2 x aa and a x af. I have all of the latest drivers for my graphics card and mobo. I have the latest updates for windows, no viruses / malware, I have ran memtests and a HDD test, both of which are clean and I have reformatted recently.

[notavirus.exe]

well. First off, I don't want your money, I sleep better when I help people.

Secondly, Here is my rig:

AMD Phenom II 940 (same as you)
4gb DDR2 PC6400 (same as you, maybe a little diff)
ASUS M3A78-CM (Not quite the same, but similar enough)
ATI Sapphire 4670 512mb GDDR3 (Way less than you)

I would check the temperatures (although I think this won't prove anything), post the temperatures while in game, and while Idle.

Try blowing all the dust out of your graphics card.

I also believe there is a console command to set the fps cap limit, try to set it to like 60 or so and see if you can hit 60.

Try to scale back some setting and test it. (set everything to medium quality and play, yes it will be ugly but for testing purposes).

Try with no AA.

[barnard09]

I should have included this before but all of my temperatures are normal, with my GPU never going above 65C and my CPU not going above 55. I will try reducing the settings but before when I have tried the fps remain similar.

[Dragunovhun]

Ok, so I have been trying to find the answer to this problem for a while so I am willing to pay the person that finds the answer. I will give them £10 through paypal or buy them a game through steam worth £10 or under.


That's an.. uhh... interresting way to go about it.

Man, if i had a dollar for every time i helped someone out on here. I'd have like... several dollars.

[nabokovfan87]

Either things are dusty/overheating (my 965 goes up to 40 degree c, 47 with stock cooler), or you are likely throttling.

Check the bios, turn off amd cool n quiet and so forth things that will lower the cpu speed as opposed to upping the fan speed.

Also, in windows, go to control panel and power options, select max performance and then advanced, turn the same type of settings in there.

As I said in the other thread, update video card drivers to 10.6 and in the driver settings, set everything to let application decide, and turn off catalyst A.I. and turn mipmap detail to high.

[borg_7_of_9]

I should have included this before but all of my temperatures are normal, with my GPU never going above 65C and my CPU not going above 55. I will try reducing the settings but before when I have tried the fps remain similar.

What program did you use to get the temp's?

OCCT (http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Download) can test the cpu and monitor temp's while underload!

What Drivers are you using for the video card! 10.7 is the latest but not the greatest!

if you are using 10.7 un~install and go back to what you where using before!

PS.. Keep ya Dosh/Cash! We are here to help!

[fyrevortex]

well. First off, I don't want your money, I sleep better when I help people.

Secondly, Here is my rig:

AMD Phenom II 940 (same as you)
4gb DDR2 PC6400 (same as you, maybe a little diff)
ASUS M3A78-CM (Not quite the same, but similar enough)
ATI Sapphire 4670 512mb GDDR3 (Way less than you)

I would check the temperatures (although I think this won't prove anything), post the temperatures while in game, and while Idle.

Try blowing all the dust out of your graphics card.

I also believe there is a console command to set the fps cap limit, try to set it to like 60 or so and see if you can hit 60.

Try to scale back some setting and test it. (set everything to medium quality and play, yes it will be ugly but for testing purposes).

Try with no AA.

+Rep to your noble statement. Thanks for all your input on my other thread.

[barnard09]

Ok, I made sure that cool and quiet was turned off, I disabled catalyst AI, turned mipmap quality to high and everything else to what the application specifies. I also rolled back my driver to 10.6 and I used everest and hwmonitor for the temperatures butI will download OCCT now. Thanks for all the help :)

[kdawgmaster]

also just so u know that oblivion only runs off one core for the CPU and never rly got good FPS on any system that iv seen

[Undead]

Turn V-Sync Off (Disabled).

[Gamesrock24]

Your FPS goes from 20 to 200. Isn't that a good thing?

[dillonsurdaddy]

if you have an on screen display showing you your fps disable the osd and try a dif program if you need to so those numbers as you play.

I was gettin random slow downs in DOW2 and SC2 with evga precision and i switched off the osd and the graphs showed teh problem went away. Then i just downloaded msi afterburner and used that osd to see fps and havent had an issue sense.

[barnard09]

I was using fraps and the in game source fps monitor. And if I'm getting 20 fps that is bad. :(

[dillonsurdaddy]

well i hope your just using fraps for the fps monitor and not to record. If you are recording with it that is your problem. Recording gameplay will decrease your overall gaming performance, especially if your saving the recording to the same hdd your playing the game off of.

[McMasterGold]

1. Clean your case and eliminate any dust. Make sure that no fan is blocked and try to have the ambient temperature as low as possible.

2. Make sure to turn off any throttling programs. Also check for Windows power saving techniques. The default is "Balanced", and you'll surely get a performance loss unless you set it on "High Performance".

3. Make sure not to have any processes running. In the Task Manager terminate memory- and CPU-heavy processes (unless they're vital).

4. Use programs like CCleaner and Defraggler to mantain your system.

5. Use Game Booster to get extra performance.

6. Do a VERY VERY good check for viruses or hardware problems. Don't use quick scans.

7. Do research and experiment with older drivers. Newest ones like the Catalyst 10.7 can cause problems.

8. Make sure all latest patches are installed. Also check for some performance fixes for Team Fortress 2 by looking at its forum. Performance in this game takes a pounding with latest updates and there are fixes.

9. Anti-aliasing performance isn't even. Some areas might have too many edges, while others won't have many. Try turning it off. Or try lowering settings. If lowered settings do nothing, then you can be sure there's a problem. For online games, check your connection.

10. Don't be obsessed with the frame rate. It might dip into the 20s, but if it looks smooth to you, then just leave it.

[nabokovfan87]

I was using fraps and the in game source fps monitor. And if I'm getting 20 fps that is bad. :(

Do you have an old card or a friends to find out if the issue is the card or the motherboard?

[barnard09]

First poster I'm not recording.

Next poster

1) My temperatures except my MCP are fine, which the sensor for doesn't work and there is little dust.

2) Power options are fine and cool n quiet is off.

3) All other programs are closed when I play games and I can't see any processes in my task manager that use more than 1% cpu, most say 0.

4) I use both of those programs once a week.

5)I'll take a look at that.

6) I have ran long memory tests and hard drive tests aswell as several full scans with AVG, spybot search and destroy and malware bytes.

7) I rolled back to 10.6

8) All of my games are fully patched and I use the performance boosts for tf2.

9) Even without aa my games lag.

10) If I didn't mind I wouldn't be posting. Also there is obviously a problem so I would liek to fix it rather than leave it ...

[sper09]

Might be out there, but have you tried disabling your Anti-Virus program while gaming?

[barnard09]

I have tried most things, which is why I am in desperate need of help trying to find the answer. It is none of hte obvious solutions. :confused:

[borg_7_of_9]

Ok last thing i can think of for now!

Down load gpu-z (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/)! run it,it will give you all the info about ya GPU make sure it say's that the card is connected at pcie x16 @x16 (Bus Interface)

[McMasterGold]

7) I rolled back to 10.6

ATi drivers are said to be shoddy after Catalyst 10.5. Use Catalyst 10.4.

[DarkLiberator]

ATi drivers are said to be shoddy after Catalyst 10.5. Use Catalyst 10.4.

Not necessarily. I'm using 10.6 here, and its better performance then 10.4 for me.

Well, everybody has seem to suggest everything. I had shoddy performance myself and I disabled the Anti-Virus, and everything ran fine after that.

Maybe there's a background program eating resources while you're running games.

[nabokovfan87]

Maybe there's a background program eating resources while you're running games.

It shouldn't cause that much of a drop. OP, Do you have an old card to test if it is the motherboard?

[Hardwood]

I didn't see what OS you're using.
If it's annoying you, create a 30gig partition and install a temp OS. Update it, add chipset, vid and audio drivers. Install Steam pointing to your current steam folder and see if there's any improvement.

What is your CSS stress test result?
You should be able to OC the CPU to 34-3600.

[barnard09]

My average fps on the stress test was 180. Which is a lot higher than I get in game. If it was my MCP which was causing the issues would playing online put much more of a load onto it and cause the fps to drop?

I just hosted a game with 23 bots and me. My fps stayed at 299 but when I got near to enemies, even if I couldn't see them my fps dropped to like 50 and then flickered to around 150 and back. Then at random times it would drop to like 20 and go back up. But if no one was around it would stay around 299.

[san7]

First poster I'm not recording.

Next poster

1) My temperatures except my MCP are fine, which the sensor for doesn't work and there is little dust.

2) Power options are fine and cool n quiet is off.

3) All other programs are closed when I play games and I can't see any processes in my task manager that use more than 1% cpu, most say 0.

4) I use both of those programs once a week.

5)I'll take a look at that.

6) I have ran long memory tests and hard drive tests aswell as several full scans with AVG, spybot search and destroy and malware bytes.

7) I rolled back to 10.6

8) All of my games are fully patched and I use the performance boosts for tf2.

9) Even without aa my games lag.

10) If I didn't mind I wouldn't be posting. Also there is obviously a problem so I would liek to fix it rather than leave it ...

Is it advised to tick all the unchecked boxes in "system & advanced" on CCleaner?

Woops. I was meant to quote McMasterGold.

[McMasterGold]

Is it advised to tick all the unchecked boxes in "system & advanced" on CCleaner?

Woops. I was meant to quote McMasterGold.

No, it's not, unless you want to delete traces of your actions.

When you delete a file, you just delete its references. To completely remove it, you have to use a disk wiper. Checking "Wipe Free Space" will do that, and files will not be recovered.