Game doesn't start at all.

[FireflyPoi]

Verified game cache already, redownloaded 3 times, and every time the game will not start.

It comes up with the 'Preparing to launch' box, my friends list icon turns green to show I'm in game, then nothing happens. In task manager the game EXE process will have locked at a random ammount of kb, using no more and no less, and will be using no CPU whatsoever.

I have the exact same problem with Guns of Icarus. Game process starts, then freezes and does nothing, no load screen, nothing but exactly what i was looking at before i clicked play.

Always seems to be indie games that do this.

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, GeForce GT220, 4gb Ram, etc etc.

Edit:

Yes I have tried all the settings on compatability mode on both games, and have tried running both from the root folder, and running them as administrator, all to the same outcome of nothing.

( Have now fixed this problem, please refer to my post on page three (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=17546545#post17546545) for the solution that fixed the problem for me, if this is a problem you are also experiencing. :) )

[flava_clown]

do you have a firewall?

[FireflyPoi]

do you have a firewall?

I have windows own built in firewall, but other than that I don't have a 3rd party firewall. Firewall would make no difference to a single player game running or starting, the firewall is to block connections to the internet which the game won't need just to start up.

As far as I can tell from posts when you first start the game you should get a config screen with "save & exit" once you finish your setup (same for Guns of Icarus) and both games don't even get to that stage. I have tested the game on my friends laptop (Guns of Icarus) as I bought us both a copy and his laptop works fine with GoI, and I suspect will work fine with BoB also.

I don't get how my computer, which I've upgraded every now and then to purely be a games rig (albeit a cheaper end one) has so much trouble running indie games, like Guckets of Blood, and Guns of Icarus.

I've watched task manager when I start the game, the process starts, my Steam says I am in-game, then nothing happens, and the memory being used by Foreign Legion.exe freezes and doesn't move. The same happens when I start Guns of Icarus, so I'm guessing both games are having the same problem. So hopefully a cure to Foreign Legion, will cure both my games at the same time.

It's annoying to have bought a game that won't even start. :/

[flava_clown]

I have windows own built in firewall, but other than that I don't have a 3rd party firewall. Firewall would make no difference to a single player game running or starting, the firewall is to block connections to the internet which the game won't need just to start up.


if you would have real firewall like zonealarm, then you would know that even a single-player-only-game needs an internet connection. mostly because of the drm. this game requires also an internet connection because of the leaderboards and the steam achievements.

if the game works on your friends laptop then you should have a look in his "add/remove software" settings, to see what he have installed what you don't have. games require alot these days. if you buy a non-indie game then they come usually with all you might need, directx, physx, vcredist and so on...

[FireflyPoi]

Thanks for your input, I have tried everything i can think of, codec packs, latest drivers on everything on my pc, latest PhysX etc, everything that I should possibly need for a game is up to date, I just dont quite get what's wrong :/

Normally my Windows Firewall pops up with anything trying to connect to the internet, but it doesnt get chance to try because the process just freezes. I have a lot of indie games and its extremely rare I have problems :/

[flava_clown]

do you run steam as admin? the game needs access to the registery, do you run software which could prevent this? like "tea timer" or an over-motivated-anti-virus program? if you run an antivirus program, then there is maybe an option to "ignore" this game, if not then disable it to test if this helps...

do you know where Guns of Icarus stores the settings? in the registery as well?

[FireflyPoi]

Yes I run steam in Administrator mode, so there is nothing stopping the game from accessing anything it needs to, I have also tried running the game directly from the root folder both normally and as administrator (as I mentioned above)

I have no idea about that much to do with Guns of Icarus as it has never worked, but I recently bought Plain Sight, another indie game, which works perfectly fine. So obviously its just some particular settings or processing path that the occasional indie games use?

[borg_7_of_9]

DRIVER's are the biggest reason for game's not working! Just got Buckets of blood and no issues at all!

Sound and Video then Directx run time software! are all these up to date!

[FireflyPoi]

I have tried everything i can think of, codec packs, latest drivers on everything on my pc, latest PhysX etc, everything that I should possibly need for a game is up to date

Is the answer to your question :)

[flava_clown]

I have no idea about that much to do with Guns of Icarus as it has never worked, but I recently bought Plain Sight, another indie game, which works perfectly fine. So obviously its just some particular settings or processing path that the occasional indie games use?

it was YOU who mentioned that game in the first place. if both don't run on your computer, then maybe for the same reason. now we have to find WHAT the problem is and then we can think about how to fix it.

some people said that they needed some directx 9 files on there recently installed windows 7 even if they had the latest directx version already. maybe you should try to install directx 9.. it shouldn't replace the newer files on your computer but should add files which you don't have yet... i would give it try, even though i don't have such problem here in my laptop with win 7 home premium (32bit).

edit: btw here is a part from the output_log.txt which you should found in your "steamfolder/steamapps/common/foreign legion (buckets of blood)"

Player: init engine
Direct3D:
Version: Direct3D 9.0c [atiu9pag.dll 8.14.1.6099]
Renderer: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series
Vendor: ATI
VRAM: 256 MB
desktop: 1280x800 60Hz; virtual: 1280x800 at 0,0
Build version: S_4583
UnityEngine.Debug:Log(Object)
Persistent:Bootstrap(GameObject)
FLMenu:Awake()

the direct3d 9.0c part is what makes me think that this could be the reason/solution

if you want you can share your dxdiag.exe out with us... maybe there is something wrong

[FireflyPoi]

if you want you can share your dxdiag.exe out with us... maybe there is something wrong


Player: init engine
Direct3D:
Version: Direct3D 9.0c [nvd3dum.dll 8.17.11.9745]
Renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GT 220
Vendor: NVIDIA
VRAM: 1024 MB
desktop: 1680x1050 59Hz; virtual: 1680x1050 at 0,0

Edit:

What's above is ALL that my output_log has in it, there is nothing else

[flava_clown]

what i meant is dxdiag... click on start then on "execute" or "run" (i don't know how it's called on an english windows) ... then type "dxdiag"...
go to the screen tab and check if direct3d is enabled.

[FireflyPoi]

what i meant is dxdiag... click on start then on "execute" or "run" (i don't know how it's called on an english windows) ... then type "dxdiag"...
go to the screen tab and check if direct3d is enabled.

------------------
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 8/26/2010, 00:01:07
Machine name: My Computer
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 2624MB used, 5563MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 220
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GT 220
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Display Memory: 2777 MB
Dedicated Memory: 986 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (59Hz)
Monitor Name: Acer LCD Monitor V223W
Monitor Model: Acer V223W
Monitor Id: ACR0027
Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.954Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,n vwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0011.9745 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.11.9745
DDI Version: 10.1
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/3/2010 23:55:31, 11906664 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4960-11CF-2353-41091CC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0A20
SubSys ID: 0x294A1682
Revision ID: 0x00A2

D3D9 Overlay: Supported
DXVA-HD: Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

[flava_clown]

seems there is no problem with directx...

if i compare your output with the few lines i've posted then i become the feeling that the "Foreign Legion.exe" can't be accessed for some reason.

a virus scanner maybe? check if you are allowd to access this exe. (right-click -> properties -> security)

check also the details... my version is 2.6.1.31223 , the size is 5.06MB

[FireflyPoi]

seems there is no problem with directx...

if i compare your output with the few lines i've posted then i become the feeling that the "Foreign Legion.exe" can't be accessed for some reason.

a virus scanner maybe? check if you are allowd to access this exe. (right-click -> properties -> security)

check also the details... my version is 2.6.1.31223 , the size is 5.06MB

Same here, 5.06MB / 5,182kb

Ran it in administrator mode to the same effect, says I'm in game but nothing happens. This and GoI are the only games that have ever done this to me, so it's a new one on me. :/

Tried playing with all the security options not that it's ever been a problem before but since this is new on me I tried your suggestions anyway, and still the same :/

Input from game creators would be nice about now >_>

[flava_clown]

i agree, a dev should look at this, they should be able to tell what could be wrong just by looking at your output log.

however, since you tried so many things already and since i think there won't be a comment from a dev soon, why not trying something else?

it would be good to know if there is an entry to this game in your registery.

start regedit (start -> run -> type "regedit") and look for the following
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Sakari Indie\Foreign Legion

[FireflyPoi]

i agree, a dev should look at this, they should be able to tell what could be wrong just by looking at your output log.

however, since you tried so many things already and since i think there won't be a comment from a dev soon, why not trying something else?

it would be good to know if there is an entry to this game in your registery.

start regedit (start -> run -> type "regedit") and look for the following

It's just strange that 2 games have behaved the exact same way, and I've had nobody tell me why Guns of Icarus does the exact same thing. I can't be the only person this happened to?

Oh and as for registry key, I don't actually 'have' one for Sakari Indie (i searched the registry both manually and via search) - probably because the game has never had a first successful run?

[Saijin_Naib]

Interesting, neither Unity game can write to your registry. Perhaps you should contact Unity and see what they have to say?

[FireflyPoi]

Was Guns of Icarus also produced by Unity then? Since neither have had the intro movies load, I havn't noticed who have opening credits.

How would I go about contacting Unity and what would be the best thing to say? How should I summarise the contents of this thread?

Edit: They should be able to, I've tried running them in Administrator Mode... :/ out of ideas. Sucks because this game looks really awesome, as does GoI

[Saijin_Naib]

Well, neither were produced by unity, but both are using the Unity Game engine.
http://unity3d.com/company/contact

Start there. I guess just recap what you've done to try and get both Unity Engine games to work and see what they have to say.

[FireflyPoi]

Well, neither were produced by unity, but both are using the Unity Game engine.
http://unity3d.com/company/contact

Start there. I guess just recap what you've done to try and get both Unity Engine games to work and see what they have to say.

Thanks for your help :) We'll see what they have to say :)

[flava_clown]

are you in the mood to try something else while waiting for an answer from the unity guys?

i've seen you have an nvidia card, that means you should be able to use the physx properties (i have ati cards in both, computer and laptop)

you should have 3 settings:
1. no acceleration (or how you spell it in english)
2. geforce physx
3. ageia physx

other than that you should have the option to check your physx...

so whatever is set on your card try another setting. if some acceleration is enabled then try first to disable it.

[FireflyPoi]

PhysX GPU Acceleration is currently enabled?

[Saijin_Naib]

What driver version do you have? On my version (258.96) it has Auto, GPU, CPU as options.

I sincerely doubt PhysX has anything to do with it, AFAIK Unity can't use PhysX and Foreign Legion certainly doesn't use it.

I've launched it successfully using Auto/GPU/CPU all.

[flava_clown]

What driver version do you have? On my version (258.96) it has Auto, GPU, CPU as options.

I sincerely doubt PhysX has anything to do with it, AFAIK Unity can't use PhysX and Foreign Legion certainly doesn't use it.

I've launched it successfully using Auto/GPU/CPU all.

you know, i wouldn't have asked about physx if i wouldn't have seen this: http://unity3d.com/unity/features/physics ;)

[Saijin_Naib]

Wow, news to me lol :P

[FireflyPoi]

What driver version do you have? On my version (258.96) it has Auto, GPU, CPU as options.

I sincerely doubt PhysX has anything to do with it, AFAIK Unity can't use PhysX and Foreign Legion certainly doesn't use it.

I've launched it successfully using Auto/GPU/CPU all.

Just downloaded the newest (i think the same as I had) PhysX and installed it, still no dice, and no word from unity either :/

[borg_7_of_9]

Perhaps it's a sound issue with there engine and win 7 64bit I see a lot of ppl having issues with sound in win 7 64bit, It's a long shot but you could try disabling the sound card in device manager and see if it launches?

[FireflyPoi]

Perhaps it's a sound issue with there engine and win 7 64bit I see a lot of ppl having issues with sound in win 7 64bit, It's a long shot but you could try disabling the sound card in device manager and see if it launches?

Many thanks for the suggestion, but again no dice. :/

I want to play the game I bought! :rolleyes:

[Saijin_Naib]

Unity team hasn't given you a response yet? Alright, I'll try and take another crack at it later tonight after I get back home.

[FireflyPoi]

Unity team hasn't given you a response yet? Alright, I'll try and take another crack at it later tonight after I get back home.

Heard nothing at all, but then dev teams are normally busy, I dunno. :/

Thanks for everybodies hard work, I really do appreciate it. :)

[Saijin_Naib]

Not tonight dude, just got in from the drive. I need to see if we can get your crashlog and pour through it.

[FireflyPoi]

Not tonight dude, just got in from the drive. I need to see if we can get your crashlog and pour through it.

Player: init engine
Direct3D:
Version: Direct3D 9.0c [nvd3dum.dll 8.17.11.9745]
Renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GT 220
Vendor: NVIDIA
VRAM: 1024 MB
desktop: 1680x1050 59Hz; virtual: 1680x1050 at 0,0


Thats all there is in output_log, can't find anything to do with a crash lot, just output :/

Also I'm technically a dudette XD

[Saijin_Naib]

Hm, have we had you fully update your Nvidia Display drivers?
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-258.96-whql-driver.html

Also, it looks like you have a backlevel DX9 dll file when compared to the version listed in my output log, so I'd like for you to grab the latest DirectX redist from the microsoft site and download/install that.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en

We'll see if we can't figure this out on our own :)

[flava_clown]

We'll see if we can't figure this out on our own :)

and when it turns out that the problem was between the computer and the chair, then he'll have to buy us all a copy of Karting Mayhem (http://sakari-indie.com/news/pre-beta_testing/), which Sakari Indie is working on ;)

[Saijin_Naib]

Not to push, but any updates or have you quit on this issue?

[FireflyPoi]

Not to push, but any updates or have you quit on this issue?

After having heard nothing from them I'd kind of given up until I had a thought. These are the sort of games that might use something resembling in-browser gaming software.

So, I had a problem with minecraft to do with Java and OpenGL, which meant Minecraft would crash on load, and do the exact same thing as Foreign Legion and Guns of Icarus.

After installing OpenGL

http://developer.nvidia.com/object/opengl_driver.html


Minecraft worked perfectly, which prompted me to try running Foreign Legion, WHICH NOW WORKS PERFECTLY!!!!

Along with Guns of Icarus as well!!!

So, anybody having the same issue as me with games running on the Unity dev engine, should have a go at trying OpenGL updates, as they solved my issue, and I am now loving Foreign Legion, and Guns of Icarus greatly!!!! :D:D:D:D

Edit:

Also, after having discovered another bug which caused the exact same thing to happen, I had a go at Open AL as well.

http://connect.creativelabs.com/developer/Wiki/OpenAL%20Installer%20for%20Windows.aspx

After installing this (which for some reason, on my pc at least, uninstalls every shutdown) the games worked perfectly, every time, restarted a few times (and after installing OpenAL each time) both games worked beautifully without even a single hiccup, so problem solved once and for all (fingers crossed)!!! :D

P.S.

Sorry the reply's been nearly a month since the last, only fixed Minecraft a few days ago when the recollection struck me that Foreign Legion and Guns of Icarus had the same issue. :)

and when it turns out that the problem was between the computer and the chair, then he'll have to buy us all a copy of Karting Mayhem (http://sakari-indie.com/news/pre-beta_testing/), which Sakari Indie is working on ;)

I'm not a He, so that excuses me from the purchasing, but includes me in the receiving :D

Edit:

Oh and Saijin, please feel free to edit the title of the original post to add (Win7 - Solved) onto the title, thanks! :)

[FireflyPoi]

Another update, everything's suddenly now back to it's nonfunctional state - the hell did i do wrong this time!!!

[FireflyPoi]

Okay, update again.

I have FINALLY figured out what the problem is.

Looks like (for me at least) running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit edition, AMD dual core and an NVidia GT220 card;

OpenAL is toast on my pc, this game (and Guns of Icarus) need OpenAL to run. I've finally discovered that to run these games (for me at least), OpenAL must be reinstalled after every restart, annoying, but hey I know the problem now, and both games work like a charm! :D

Also, never heard back from Sakari Indie whatsoever. :/

[Custom333]

Okay, update again.

I have FINALLY figured out what the problem is.

Looks like (for me at least) running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit edition, AMD dual core and an NVidia GT220 card;

OpenAL is toast on my pc, this game (and Guns of Icarus) need OpenAL to run. I've finally discovered that to run these games (for me at least), OpenAL must be reinstalled after every restart, annoying, but hey I know the problem now, and both games work like a charm! :D

Also, never heard back from Sakari Indie whatsoever. :/
The mod that's been talking to you this whole time is a Sakari Indie rep.:rolleyes:

I'm thinking it's the problem that's between the computer and the chair.