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DoubleD
08-31-2010, 05:58 PM
I need to pick up a new PC for the wife and kids. I will be putting this on our home network where there are already 2 desktops and a laptop.

Seems it is cheaper to buy now days then build.

Any thoughts on this one?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/eMachines+-+Desktop+/+AMD+Athlon%26%23153%3B+II+X2+Processor+/+4GB+Memory+/+500GB+Hard+Drive/9974319.p?skuId=9974319&ky=1whxm51gbOgORrn6M8JOUlLjDtR0yY7Rx&cmp=RMX&id=1218204529351

The processor is a bit out dated but the price seems right.

I would of course be putting in graphics card. 256. I don't know if a 512 would be to much of a bottleneck?


Oh and why BestBuy? Well I have a $250 gift card I won at a golf outing this summer.

HansKlos
08-31-2010, 06:04 PM
if this is for the wife and kids, i wouldnt even change the gpu unless your kids will do some light gaming, but for everday work and school work its more then enough!

madpistol
08-31-2010, 06:08 PM
Bear in mind that that computer has a small form factor case and the Power supply is weak, so you will be extremely limited in what GPU you can put in that computer.

If they're not gaming, though, I would just leave the system as is. Overall, that's a nice system for the price.

DoubleD
08-31-2010, 06:09 PM
Yes I will have to put Steam on this one as well.

Thanks for the opinions.

I am still looking at the site. I will go up to $500.

Amun
08-31-2010, 06:29 PM
I don't think you'll find a dedicated card in a sub-$500 machine. =/

At least the kids will be entertained if you load it up a bunch of games from the 90's. (http://www.gog.com)

DoubleD
08-31-2010, 08:22 PM
I don't think you'll find a dedicated card in a sub-$500 machine. =/


If you read I said I will also be getting a card to install in it.

SM darren
08-31-2010, 08:29 PM
that rig is actually pretty good for the price, if you priced out the parts to build the same thing it would get into the 500's, not including keyboard/mouse. i don't think the cpu will be any bottleneck unless you get like a GTX 460..unless im misreading what your wondering about bottlenecking

i've had a lot of good experience with emachines, even though they're supposedly cheaply made the last 2 i've had actually had original intel boards, not any 3rd party, just intel. and they send you free keyboards if you call them lol. if anything i've had more trouble with HP's and their terrible customer service

Fatimmortal
08-31-2010, 08:51 PM
You could just...put in a 5670? These DX11 minibeasts run only on PCIe power and can run on PSUs as crappy as 250w.

After adding that card, you might even let your wife and kids play some nice games for a little family bonding night.

Oh, and how old are your kids?

Kibblesman
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
If you read I said I will also be getting a card to install in it.

An ATI Radeon 4850 would be a good card, and it won't break the bank either.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150351

I assume this PC won't be playing games at resolutions like 1600x1200?

EDIT: Nice job winning that golf outlet XD

Fatimmortal
08-31-2010, 11:02 PM
An ATI Radeon 4850 would be a good card, and it won't break the bank either.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150351

I assume this PC won't be playing games at resolutions like 1600x1200?

EDIT: Nice job winning that golf outlet XD

Nice card, but this is a budget prebuilt we're talking about here. The 4850 has a minimum 450w PSU requirement and budget prebuilts usually come with a 350w at the very most, sometimes 250w.

So unless OP wants to get a separate PSU as well...

Soulwatcher
08-31-2010, 11:38 PM
It all depends on what kind of gaming you want to do with it. If your going to play older games then adding a video card would make that a nice little machine. If you plan on playing modern games I wouldnt look at anything less then a quad core. More and more games are starting to take avantage of a quad core processor. If you went with a quad core now you have a future proof machine. That would probbaly do well until the new consoles come out.

Dragunovhun
09-01-2010, 04:45 AM
I would of course be putting in graphics card. 256. I don't know if a 512 would be to much of a bottleneck?

Et tu, Brute? For the millionth time, memory does not decide the performance of a graphics card.

But anyways, by all means do your kids a favor and put in a standalone graphics card. And no it won't bottleneck your "512"

The motherboard should be AM3, so you'll most likely be able to pop a quad in there later if needed.

DoubleD
09-01-2010, 06:52 AM
Thanks for all the input.

i don't think the cpu will be any bottleneck unless you get like a GTX 460..unless im misreading what your wondering about bottlenecking

i've had a lot of good experience with emachines, even though they're supposedly cheaply made the last 2 i've had actually had original intel boards, not any 3rd party, just intel. and they send you free keyboards if you call them lol. if anything i've had more trouble with HP's and their terrible customer service

Yes I was thinking of the limits of the cpu and such that going with a 512mb card over a 256 would be to much with little to show for it.

I ended up liking emachines as well. I picked up one with a celeron 3.4 on a black friday a few years ago for $199. I put in an Nvidia 8400 card and so far it has played all sourse games, TF2 CSS. L4D2 etc as well as COD4 and Bioshock to name a few.


Edit: I am also looking at this one.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Essentio+Desktop+/+AMD+Athlon%26%23153%3B+II+X2+Processor+/+4GB+Memory+/+640GB+Hard+Drive/1092689.p?skuId=1092689&id=1218219693014#tabbed-customerreviews

Fatimmortal
09-01-2010, 11:15 AM
Edit: I am also looking at this one.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Essentio+Desktop+/+AMD+Athlon%26%23153%3B+II+X2+Processor+/+4GB+Memory+/+640GB+Hard+Drive/1092689.p?skuId=1092689&id=1218219693014#tabbed-customerreviews

The only difference I can see, is the first one has a less HDD space and this one has a better graphics card, albeit integrated.

Either way, I'd suggest putting in a 5670 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129153&cm_re=5670-_-14-129-153-_-Product) as these things do not require much of a PSU, neither do they need an external power other than from the PCIe.

This way, you're sure to be able to play any games you throw at this guy without a problem.

A 4850/4870 would be cheaper and more powerful, but they would require a 450watt PSU minimum. Usually, these rigs have a 250-350w PSU.

rotNdude
09-01-2010, 11:39 AM
Don't forget about Dell builds on the cheap:

http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/desktops/inspndt/ct.aspx?refid=inspndt&s=dhs&cs=19&ref=dthp

damaged
09-01-2010, 11:43 AM
Don't forget about Dell builds on the cheap:

http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/desktops/inspndt/ct.aspx?refid=inspndt&s=dhs&cs=19&ref=dthp

Along with their outlet builds: http://www.dell.com/outlet

DoubleD
09-01-2010, 12:20 PM
Either way, I'd suggest putting in a 5670 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129153&cm_re=5670-_-14-129-153-_-Product) as these things do not require much of a PSU, neither do they need an external power other than from the PCIe.


Nice card. I'm an Nvidia guy. That is the only crads I have ever bought in the past. But I'll check it out.

Don't forget about Dell builds on the cheap:

http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/desktops/inspndt/ct.aspx?refid=inspndt&s=dhs&cs=19&ref=dthp

Yes but I am trying to use a $250 BB gift card towards it.

rotNdude
09-01-2010, 02:00 PM
Yes but I am trying to use a $250 BB gift card towards it.

Sorry, I saw that but thought you might want to use the Best Buy card a different way.

The second PC you posted is better.

Amun
09-01-2010, 02:51 PM
If you read I said I will also be getting a card to install in it.

Let me rephrase it then: It'll be hard to do what you're suggesting without needing to get a 400 or 500 watt power supply to go with that card you're going to get. :(

Another option would be to sell the best buy card on craigslist for cash and buy a custom built PC rather than making a frankenstein.

DoubleD
09-01-2010, 04:04 PM
The second PC you posted is better.

I like the second one as well. But I'm still looking around. I am in no hurry. They have a PC they can share and I still have mine. In fact I may buy it for myself and give them mine. ;)