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JamesHowlett
09-01-2010, 09:38 AM
I'm going to pick up the Asus G73 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695) and was wondering what kind of FPS I can expect from it. It retails for $1500 which I would never pay for, but it's always on ebay for around 1k. Anywho, I'll be playing games on high-max so any idea what fps I'll be getting?

Specs:
Intel Core i7 720QM(1.60GHz)
6gb or 8gb ram
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870

Epic Beatrice
09-01-2010, 09:41 AM
Bah, Gaming Laptops.


Pointless. Get a Gaming Desktop. :3

roxim5
09-01-2010, 09:43 AM
Here (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html) is a link to a site that compares laptop gpus. It also gives average fps for popular games. Hope that helps.

JamesHowlett
09-01-2010, 09:57 AM
Here (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html) is a link to a site that compares laptop gpus. It also gives average fps for popular games. Hope that helps.

Thanks! And no room for a desktop, plus I like gaming on my couch.

Fatimmortal
09-01-2010, 11:17 AM
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5870.23073.0.html

Ask and ye shall receive.

Kibblesman
09-01-2010, 11:21 AM
I'm going to pick up the Asus G73 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695) and was wondering what kind of FPS I can expect from it. It retails for $1500 which I would never pay for, but it's always on ebay for around 1k. Anywho, I'll be playing games on high-max so any idea what fps I'll be getting?

Specs:
Intel Core i7 720QM(1.60GHz)
6gb or 8gb ram
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870

You'll be able to crush any Source game with that GPU and CPU, but GTAIV won't run that well, since its a game that requires a strong CPU.

Other than that, you should be able to enjoy a lot of games on that laptop.

JamesHowlett
09-01-2010, 11:22 AM
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5870.23073.0.html

Ask and ye shall receive.

Sweet even gives me a comparison to the desktop equivalent which I'm more familiar with, thanks.

Drag0nZorD!
09-12-2010, 05:17 PM
You'll be able to crush any Source game with that GPU and CPU, but GTAIV won't run that well, since its a game that requires a strong CPU.

Other than that, you should be able to enjoy a lot of games on that laptop.

i just bought a g73 and it rips through gta4 and mafia 2

mmstick
09-13-2010, 12:50 AM
Gaming and Laptops are two terms that should never be used in the same sentence. As for FPS laptops are primarily held back by the CPU, many games require frequencies close to 3GHz to run smoothly yet laptops cant even scratch 2GHz. There is also the fact that laptops will die within 1-3 hours of gaming unless plugged into the wall so it is just another reason to get, say a $1000 gaming desktop instead which would give well over 10x the FPS.

Drag0nZorD!
09-13-2010, 05:11 AM
many games require frequencies close to 3GHz to run smoothly yet laptops cant even scratch 2GHz.

?

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1378/cpuzm.jpg

Fatimmortal
09-13-2010, 05:36 AM
[1] As for FPS laptops are primarily held back by the CPU, many games require frequencies close to 3GHz to run smoothly yet laptops cant even scratch 2GHz. [2]There is also the fact that laptops will die within 1-3 hours of gaming unless plugged into the wall so it is just another reason to get, say a $1000 gaming desktop instead which would give well over 10x the FPS.

Gaming laptops doesn't have to have high-end cpus/gpus. Any laptop that can be used to play a current-gen game with playable framerates can be considered into the "gaming-laptop" category.



[1] That became false, the second Intel announced the CoreI series. These CPUs are actually underclocked to save power and go back to their actual "rated" frequencies when required.

For example, my i5-430m is currently at 2.26GHz at idle, but when I use programs that require more juice, it will overclock to 2.53GHz.

[2] These laptops are also meant for portability, meaning you can play ANYWHERE as long as there's an available power socket. They're also for people who don't have much space to work with at home.

Performance wise, they're not THAT good. But I'd like to see whatever desktop you have run on 4400mW battery and play BC2 for at least half an hour without shutting down.

mmstick
09-13-2010, 08:04 AM
?

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1378/cpuzm.jpg

You have been overclocking, which is not a smart thing to do since you are running a high risk of burning the laptop out very quickly. Laptops should never be overclocked as it both exceeds the watt limitations and increases heat drastically. With long periods of use it will begin burning out and causing permanent hardware damage.

And as for Fatimmortal, I don't care if it is in the gaming laptop category. Those two words do not belong in the same sentence to begin with as laptops do not game. That is not their purpose. I can also get a midrange desktop and get it to run games at a playable framerate by lowering the graphics all the way down but that doesn't make it a gaming desktop. It just means it can game, but not game well or as intended by the developer.

1) That would be Intel's Turbo feature and if all cores are being used it will not turbo to that speed. It is still true because it barely scratches the 2GHz level and doesn't even closely reach 3GHz or higher. That chip is also a dual core and does not perform well in modern games that use three or more cores. It may have four threads but its still only two cores.

2) That is merely reiterating what I said. Although if it has to be plugged into a socket then it isn't that portable. It's just imitating a LAN PC.

Can hardly say that there isn't enough space for a desktop. They aren't that big. I'm not saying you have to have a full tower desktop and a 40 inch LCD monitor to be considered a gaming desktop. Even if you did it wouldn't be that hard to make room for it. Time to throw out all that junk laying around.

Fatimmortal
09-13-2010, 09:44 AM
Dragonzord didn't overclock at all. For the Core I series, CPU-Z reports the actual speed that any i5/7 CPU has when turbo boost is enabled. And also, the 720QM is actually a QUAD core with HT.

1. Any core that is under stress WILL go up to 2.53GHz. At least that's from my own understanding, and tests.

2. Maybe, just maybe OP needs something he can move around without lugging 20lbs of hardware, not including the monitor and keyboard. Have you ever thought of this? And not everyone has the luxury of space.

When you're in a college dorm room, most of the time you're only given enough desk space for studying. Put a full sized rig, 18 inch monitor, mouse and keyboard...you're only left with enough space to put snacks maybe.

Besides, this is a gaming forum, not a hardware enthusiast forum. Anything that can play games IS and WILL always be capable of playing games.

Then again, for each his own.

Drag0nZorD!
09-13-2010, 11:16 AM
mmstick, what is ur issue?

i run crysis maxed out in dx10 and this still isnt a gaming laptop?

and as Fatimmortal said, i am not overclocking and my cpu is quad core.

my laptop stomps on the majority of what people call gaming desktops.


this laptop was built for high end gaming which would make this a gaming laptop. so what he heck is so wrong with that?

EDIT: on another note, i just was playing mercs 2 in a waiting room for an hour on battery before i had to plug it in. which was nice.

SM darren
09-13-2010, 11:53 AM
mmstick, what is ur issue?

i run crysis maxed out in dx10 and this still isnt a gaming laptop?

and as Fatimmortal said, i am not overclocking and my cpu is quad core.

my laptop stomps on the majority of what people call gaming desktops.


this laptop was built for high end gaming which would make this a gaming laptop. so what he heck is so wrong with that?

EDIT: on another note, i just was playing mercs 2 in a waiting room for an hour on battery before i had to plug it in. which was nice.

i think what mmstick was meaning is that if you're spending so much you should just get a desk top.

laptops with high end parts are normally built well, but WILL die a lot faster than a desktop. it's just the way it is because of the heat.

putting desktop performance parts in laptops without desktop performance heat sinks/fans...it means you're cutting the life of the part in half or even more.

if people have money, go for it. this year has been great for gaming laptops, lot of good ones with top tier parts. they just should know the inherent flaws with the phrase "gaming laptop", since 90% of time it's gonna be stuck on your desk with a charger because of the heavy power draw and non switchable GPU's in most of them

i have an m11x (low end spectrum of the gaming notebooks, nowdays) and i know the convenience of being able to put it in a bag and take it with you. but it's an expensive convenience, for sure.

Drag0nZorD!
09-13-2010, 05:48 PM
its deff all about convenience.

aklawitter
09-13-2010, 06:43 PM
if i want to sit in bed and play hl2dm, i can do that
if i want to sit on the couch and watch football while playing tf2, i can do that
if i want to go to a friend's house and play counterstrike, i can do that
(only with a laptop)

that is the whole point of gaming laptops

Fatimmortal
09-13-2010, 08:09 PM
Gaming laptop - $1,500
Razer mouse+mousepad - $70
Foldable plastic table with enough space for the laptop and mouse - $30

Winning a clan tournament while taking a dump - Priceless

For everything else, there's always Newegg.com. :cool:

Drag0nZorD!
09-13-2010, 09:37 PM
Gaming laptop - $1,500
Razer mouse+mousepad - $70
Foldable plastic table with enough space for the laptop and mouse - $30

Winning a clan tournament while taking a dump - Priceless


thats pretty epic considering thats exactly what im using.

JamesHowlett
09-16-2010, 06:46 PM
Gaming laptop - $1,500
Razer mouse+mousepad - $70
Foldable plastic table with enough space for the laptop and mouse - $30

Winning a clan tournament while taking a dump - Priceless

For everything else, there's always Newegg.com. :cool:

I lol'd.

I found out that Asus is making a 15 in version of the g73 called the g53 and are updating the card to the mobile version of the gtx 460, so I'm actually gonna wait for that.

As I've already stated, I have NO room for a desktop, you don't need to keep suggesting for me to get one. ;)


To change the subject, I might not be able to find work soon and I'd like a new laptop very shortly, so I'll have around $900 to work with. Any suggestions on a laptop to possibly get in that range? As much as I like asus, it might have to wait, although I see the n61 on ebay sell for $800, I'm not sure how well it'll be for gaming.

Glowhyena
09-16-2010, 07:11 PM
Pointless. Get a Gaming Desktop. :3

Agreed. A laptop is limitation. Also, too risk because of stealing, falling, burning up, and more.

JamesHowlett
09-16-2010, 07:14 PM
Agreed. A laptop is limitation. Also, too risk because of stealing, falling, burning up, and more.

Oh god are you trolling? Read my post above you.

Glowhyena
09-16-2010, 07:17 PM
Oh god are you trolling? Read my post above you.

What the? Dude, I was not talking to you.

JamesHowlett
09-16-2010, 07:26 PM
What the? Dude, I was not talking to you.

He was saying I should get a gaming laptop, you agreed. I'm just kidding around though.

Glowhyena
09-16-2010, 07:35 PM
He was saying I should get a gaming laptop, you agreed. I'm just kidding around though.

Oh, sorry. My bad.

Fatimmortal
09-17-2010, 08:28 PM
Agreed. A laptop is limitation. Also, too risk because of stealing, falling, burning up, and more.

You DO realise that the risks of using a desktop computer exist?

Firstly, desktops are actually more fragile than the average laptop. You could drop a laptop from around waist height and it'll survive the fall. Do the same with a desktop...Let's not go there. :o

Gaming laptops also consume less power than the average desktop and if there's even a chance of a blackout, you'd still have battery to last you an hour or two until you find that big assed switch. In short, less chances of losing important data without the help of a UPS.

I could steal a desktop too. I mean I wouldn't even have to head down to walmart to get some 20 dollar charger as I would for the laptop. I could just use the power cable from my rice cooker and start it up.

Oh and don't even get me started on laptops being non-upgradeable other than the HDD and RAM. Newegg actually has stock for mobile CPUs. Also, the graphics card on a laptop can be upgraded either internally (http://www.mxm-sig.org/), or externally (http://www.villagetronic.com/vidock/index.html).

And as for OP, 900 bucks would be a little low for a gaming laptop. If you can bump it up to 1k, here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146848) it is.

JamesHowlett
09-17-2010, 10:47 PM
Yeah I was looking into Lenovo's and they're always on sale. My friend picked up the asus n61 (]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220696) and loved it so I might even go that route. I can get it for around $800 on ebay. The Lenovo has a faster processor and is lighter, but no backlit keyboard, which I really need. Although I found the Lenovo on sale (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=6304487&sku=T71-15636&srkey=Lenovo%20IdeaPad%20Y560) with an i5 for $750, will that be okay? I know nothing of the i5's.

Fatimmortal
09-18-2010, 05:32 AM
Yeah I was looking into Lenovo's and they're always on sale. My friend picked up the asus n61 (]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220696) and loved it so I might even go that route. I can get it for around $800 on ebay. The Lenovo has a faster processor and is lighter, but no backlit keyboard, which I really need. Although I found the Lenovo on sale (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=6304487&sku=T71-15636&srkey=Lenovo%20IdeaPad%20Y560) with an i5 for $750, will that be okay? I know nothing of the i5's.

To be honest, i7s on laptops are only good for increasing the size of your e-peen.

An i5 will work great on its own. Coupled with a good graphics card, it will rip through games as you take a dump, or should I say, getting an e-blumpkin. :cool: