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spartan678
09-04-2010, 12:43 PM
Does anyone know the best Graphics cards out there? or at least the top ones? I thought the NVIDIA 9800GTX was pretty good but people said there were better? which ones are better? thanks ;)

Cronq
09-04-2010, 12:47 PM
Asus ARES is the best there is, followed by a 5970. Nvidia stopped having the fastest cards over 2 years ago.

As far as reccomended? You can't go wrong with an ATI 5850 or an Nvidia 460GTX. Both those cards can essentially max out most PC games at HD resolutions and can be had for $200.

spartan678
09-04-2010, 12:49 PM
looks a bit expensive :@

Fatimmortal
09-04-2010, 12:53 PM
What's your budget, exactly?

spartan678
09-04-2010, 12:53 PM
200 - 300

coprophagia
09-04-2010, 01:03 PM
Research...
Best Graphics Cards For The Money: August 2010 (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-radeon-hd-5570-gaming,2697.html)

rotNdude
09-04-2010, 01:10 PM
5870 or GTX470:

XFX HD 5870 1GB DDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/231352)

MSI GTX470 1280MB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini HDMI Out PCI-E Graphics Card (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/201655)

General Jameson
09-04-2010, 01:14 PM
Asus ARES is the best there is, followed by a 5970. Nvidia stopped having the fastest cards over 2 years ago.

As far as reccomended? You can't go wrong with an ATI 5850 or an Nvidia 460GTX. Both those cards can essentially max out most PC games at HD resolutions and can be had for $200.

What are you talking about? Nvidia still has the single most powerful graphics card available, the GTX 480. As far a dual GPU's go, yes ATI has a more powerful card for the time. It is also not about recommending what you like or want its about recommending whats best for someone in a specific price range and what they what out of it.

OP what are your system specs including PSU watts and amps on 12v+ rail, and if their are multiple rails.

Horklakian
09-04-2010, 01:19 PM
A regular 5870 will do you just fine, but even that is around $500 - $550. Prices this generation are a little ridiculous. Last generation, you could get a 4870 X2 (dual GPU's) for around the same price when it was first released. I got a 4870 X2 in May of 09 for $399.

rotNdude
09-04-2010, 01:19 PM
It is also not about recommending what you like or want its about recommending whats best for someone in a specific price range and what they what out of it.

Calm down. The OP didn't post budget until post #5.

spartan678
09-04-2010, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the info guys, +rep for all of you ;)

Horklakian
09-04-2010, 01:37 PM
Handy price lookup at Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%204019&IsNodeId=1&name=$300%20-%20$400

It looks like you can get an XFX 5870 for $389.99. According to currency converters that's about 302.

Cronq
09-04-2010, 10:47 PM
What are you talking about? Nvidia still has the single most powerful graphics card available, the GTX 480. As far a dual GPU's go, yes ATI has a more powerful card for the time. It is also not about recommending what you like or want its about recommending whats best for someone in a specific price range and what they what out of it.

If you look at the OP's question, I answered it perfectly. The ARES and 5970 are both single cards, regardless of how many GPU's are on a single PCB. The OP only asked what the most powerful graphics card is, you apparently don't like the truth.

If you actually read my post, I gave 2 good recommendations from both card manufacturers before the OP even gave any details. Calm down Fanboy.

kdawgmaster
09-04-2010, 11:47 PM
What are you talking about? Nvidia still has the single most powerful graphics card available, the GTX 480. As far a dual GPU's go, yes ATI has a more powerful card for the time. It is also not about recommending what you like or want its about recommending whats best for someone in a specific price range and what they what out of it.

OP what are your system specs including PSU watts and amps on 12v+ rail, and if their are multiple rails.

I think the point was the strongest gpu out is what he is asking. Mind you are right that the gtx 480 is the strongest single gpu card out its not the strongest solution out that you can buy as a single card at the moment.

General Jameson
09-05-2010, 12:01 AM
If you look at the OP's question, I answered it perfectly. The ARES and 5970 are both single cards, regardless of how many GPU's are on a single PCB. The OP only asked what the most powerful graphics card is, you apparently don't like the truth.

If you actually read my post, I gave 2 good recommendations from both card manufacturers before the OP even gave any details. Calm down Hammer Legion Member.

I thought the 5970 is a dual GPU just used one PCie slot.
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/ATI-Radeon-HD-5970-DualGPU-Powerhouse/?page=2

SgtKaboose
09-05-2010, 12:52 AM
Got $1,200 laying around in your piggy bank? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150500)

spartan678
09-05-2010, 05:31 AM
Got $1,200 laying around in your piggy bank? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150500)

Looks more like a gun than anything

Hivnom
09-05-2010, 08:08 AM
Looks more like a gun than anything

For $1200, it better come with a real, working gun.

Lusit
09-05-2010, 08:26 AM
I thought the 5970 is a dual GPU just used one PCie slot.
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/ATI-Radeon-HD-5970-DualGPU-Powerhouse/?page=2

Yes, there are 2 gpus on one PCB. They also have a tough time with drivers and I wouldn't suggest a 5970.

Anyway, for your price I would suggest either the Radeon 5850 or the Palit GTX 460 superoverclocked. The 5850 goes for around $300 and the Palit GTX 460 goes for around $250. Go for the 5850 is you're not going to buy a second card ever, and the 460 if you're planning on putting them in SLI anytime soon. I would suggest the 460 over the 5850, but that's just me.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261076&cm_re=palit_460-_-14-261-076-_-Product

That's the palit.

Earthful
09-05-2010, 08:32 AM
Just wait until Christmas, on that date from what I heard is that ATI will be releasing the new 6000's series video cards. Its just speculation from this point.

Don't blow your money on top-of-line video cards when new cards will replace it in few weeks or months. Prices on the 5000's series should go down at least 10-35% when the 6000's series comes out.

kdawgmaster
09-05-2010, 09:14 AM
Yes, there are 2 gpus on one PCB. They also have a tough time with drivers and I wouldn't suggest a 5970.

Anyway, for your price I would suggest either the Radeon 5850 or the Palit GTX 460 superoverclocked. The 5850 goes for around $300 and the Palit GTX 460 goes for around $250. Go for the 5850 is you're not going to buy a second card ever, and the 460 if you're planning on putting them in SLI anytime soon. I would suggest the 460 over the 5850, but that's just me.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261076&cm_re=palit_460-_-14-261-076-_-Product

That's the palit.

The drivers for the 5970 are just as good as any ati card. And also judging by the performance that the card gives they don't seem to be having troubles

SM darren
09-05-2010, 09:15 AM
the GTX's are already dropping fast..just last month i couldn't find one for below 240 now 460's are MSRP'ing at 220 and i got mine for 155 each during promotions

i would wait, but if you want a card now, get a 480

Cronq
09-05-2010, 11:35 AM
Getting a 480 is silly when you can buy (2) 460's and get significantly more performance for less money.

joemtnbike
09-05-2010, 11:39 AM
Getting a 480 is silly when you can buy (2) 460's and get significantly more performance for less money.

Assuming that you have an SLI capable system and don't mind that not all games will use both gpus optimally.

General Jameson
09-05-2010, 12:59 PM
Getting a 480 is silly when you can buy (2) 460's and get significantly more performance for less money.

But no upgrade path if you go for SLI right off the bat. GTX 460 only supports 2-way. In no way can GTX 460 SLI match up to GTX 480 when in 2-way SLI. 4-way SLI is just stupid fun power on the GTX 480 even if scaling does become a issue.

Now if someone is after the Nvidia 3d surround setup, GTX 460 SLI is a good cheap choice.

HL2-4-Life
09-05-2010, 10:39 PM
In no way can GTX 460 SLI match up to GTX 480 when in 2-way SLI.2-way GTX460 SLi does beat a single GTX480, a few review sites have shown this, here's one from THG -
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-sli-geforce-gtx-480,2694-4.html

Amun
09-05-2010, 10:48 PM
The drivers for the 5970 are just as good as any ati card. And also judging by the performance that the card gives they don't seem to be having troubles

A 5970 doesn't perform as well as two 5870's in crossfire. I think that's why someone might say the drivers aren't very good.

IcarusNine
09-05-2010, 10:56 PM
4-way SLI [...] stupid [...] power [...] GTX 480

Took the words right out of my mouth. Put them in a kinda funny order, though.

Undead
09-05-2010, 11:56 PM
Can you do SLI at it's fullest if one of the x16 slots is running at x4 speed?

kdawgmaster
09-06-2010, 08:05 AM
A 5970 doesn't perform as well as two 5870's in crossfire. I think that's why someone might say the drivers aren't very good.

thats got nothing to do with the drivers tho. A 5970 is downclocked to keep its TDP under 300. overclocking would then match the 5870's in crossfire and probably trade a few games here and there.

But still in no way is it something to do with the drivers.