Need to shave costs, any NCIX coupons?

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Right, so I have this computer that I want and a limited budget: 1,400 after shipping and handling and taxes [1,500 if we really can't cut any costs].

Four things: 1. I really don't want to change my CPU and GPU
2. I don't care about Crossfire or any ideas of future-proofing.
3. I need room for a good gaming mouse [Lachesis O: ?] and a keyboard with backlight and possibly wireless network card.
4. Components must be found on this configurator: http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.php?action=getprice&id=3294556&platformid=1000
5. I'm really paranoid about overheating.
6. There's no negotiation as to considering building it myself, if I had that choice, I would.

Here's my build:
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad Core Processor AM3 3.4GHZ 8MB Cache 125W 45NM Retail Box: $190.92

Hard Drives: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive OEM: $59.99

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM: $123.77

CPU Cooling: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink: $29.99

Speaker: Logitech X-140 2.0 5W RMS Black Analog Speakers W/ Headphone Jack & Auxiliary Input: $27.92

DVD Writer: LG 16X DVD-ROM Optical Drive SATA Black OEM: $19.99

Motherboard: ASUS M4A88TD-M/USB3 AM3 DDR3 mATX 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 1PCI SATA3 USB3.0 HDMI Video GBLAN Motherboard: $112.70

DDR3 Memory (RAM: OCZ OCZ3G1333LV4GK 4GB DDR3 2X2GB DDR3-1333 PC3-10666 CL 9-9-9-20 Dual Channel Memory Kit: $85.77

Video Cards: Radeon HD 5850 725MHZ 1GB GDDR5 4.0GHZ PCI-E 2XDVI HDMI Display Port: $344.99

Computer Case: Apex VORTEX3620 Mid Tower ATX Case Black 3X5.25 2X3.5 5X3.5INT Front USB X4 Front Audio X4 No PSU: $48.99

Power Supply: Corsair TX750W 750W ATX 12V 60A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan: $129.99

LCD Monitors: ASUS VH202T-P 20IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1600X900 20000:1 5ms VGA DVI Speakers
(VH202T-P) (sku: 40922): $144.52

Total price with taxes and shipping and the 50$ assembly fee = 1,500.09

[Koraboros]

NCIX doesn't do coupons, best you do is pricematch with a competitor.

Use PriceBat or pricecanada to check the prices from other stores.

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4. Components must be found on this configurator: http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.p...latformid=1000

I'm using their PC Builder, so I'm not buying from other people.

[borg_7_of_9]

Right, so I have this computer that I want and a limited budget: 1,400 after shipping and handling and taxes [1,500 if we really can't cut any costs].


Video card would be the best place to cut cost, HD5770
Is this the build i helped out with the other day?
oh cpu have a look at this http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/pcbuilderpreview.cfm?id=3294556&skus=47459-1-0|41337-1-0|53570-1-0|42870-1-0|50067-1-0|46039-1-0|26414-1-0|40922-1-0|45271-1-0|36050-1-0|45429-1-0|33602-1-0|31543-1-0|7842-50

[Torte de Lini]

Video card would be the best place to cut cost, HD5770
Is this the build i helped out with the other day?


Yep.

And I don't want to reduce the GPU ): 5770 sounds weaker than the 5850.

My old Dell Laptop came with a reinstallation Windows 7 64-bit Disc. Will that work on my PC? If so, that's 124 dollars less :3

[borg_7_of_9]

Yep.

And I don't want to reduce the GPU ): 5770 sounds weaker than the 5850.

My old Dell Laptop came with a reinstallation Windows 7 64-bit Disc. Will that work on my PC? If so, that's 124 dollars less :3

5770 is weaker hell you would do well with a hd4870/90 at that rez if dx 11 is a non issue

I don't think the reinstall disc will work as it will be setup for the dell Hardware..

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5770 is weaker hell you would do well with a hd4870/90 at that rez if dx 11 is a non issue

Not sure what you mean here...

I have a powerful CPU I want a powerful GPU to play a lot of the games at a high quality. Can't we just reduce the case, PSU, etc?

[borg_7_of_9]

this may be http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.php?action=getprice&id=3294556&platformid=1000
have a good look change PSU/GPU to GTX460 and mobo

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Isn't that PSU a bit low? 520?
Doesn't AMD work not so well with Nvidia?
I have no idea if that Mobo is good or not. What was wrong with the other one?

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Using this to measure.

[borg_7_of_9]

nothing wrong with the other mobo just cutting cost.
CPU's/Mobo's don't care what graphic's card you use..
520W should be more than enough..

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I don't really trust Seagate. I was using ibuypower earlier and it claimed I needed 700 watts

[borg_7_of_9]

I don't really trust Seagate. I was using ibuypower earlier and it claimed I needed 700 watts

700W's is crazy you can run 2 graphic's card's on 700W's
check out this PSU (http://www.antec.outervision.com/PSUEngine) calculator

Approx 396 W

Seagate HDD's are fine I'm running a 7200.12 hasn't missed a beat..

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I think you linked the wrong thing.

Does having a better PSU do anything?

[borg_7_of_9]

I think you linked the wrong thing.

Does having a better PSU do anything?

Fixed.... and here just to be safe http://www.antec.outervision.com/PSUEngine

A better PSU will run a Little cooler not much else..

Alway's use a quality PSU though no cheap ♥♥♥ $30 crap..

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Fixed.... and here just to be safe http://www.antec.outervision.com/PSUEngine

A better PSU will run a Little cooler not much else..

Alway's use a quality PSU though no cheap ♥♥♥ $30 crap..



If I'm using that fan cooler thing, anyheat problems won't occur r My computer is a bit weird,soIcan't see what I'm writing.ight?

[borg_7_of_9]

ok not good.. well I did a rough on what you have in the list and like I said 396W

The heat sink fan set up? Just add more 1 more fan..

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I'm talking the cpu cooller. The Cooermaster I wish we had second opinions on the matter.

[borg_7_of_9]

yeah it will do a good job of keeping thing's cool..

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yeah it will do a good job of keeping thing's cool..

Seagate doesn't sound trustworthy, what's a good corsair?

[borg_7_of_9]

Seagate doesn't sound trustworthy, what's a good corsair?

you talking about seasonic
the have been around for a long time. but if you prefer ill update you list to a slightly better PSU

http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.php?action=getprice&id=3294556&platformid=1000

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I'm just bewildered that we can cut so many costs that there has to be some risks we're taking.

[borg_7_of_9]

I'm just bewildered that we can cut so many costs that there has to be some risks we're taking.

I would not recommend a PSU if i didn't think it was up to scratch
the price difference in motherboard is usually due to chipset's and other features not build quality unless you are looking at a bargain brand like Asrock or Foxconn..

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Pros: Easy install. Windows 7 32-bit works perfectly with it. I play all current games at 1680x1050 with all details, AA, AF maxed out, and have no complaints. The noise from the card is almost non-existent, quietest card I've ever seen with a cooling system. The temperature is also quite cool compared to other cards in this range.

Cons: Just make sure you have a good power supply. I had a 450W which could not run this card with all my other stuff. I upgraded to a Thermaltake 850W and it runs like a charm.

Other Thoughts: I originally bought a Radeon 5770, which was a little cheaper, but I had all kinds of problems with it. I returned it and decided to kick in a little mor money and get this card and I am so glad I did. My friend has a 5770 and this card blows it away.


says I need a higher psu and the video card doesn't evenhave a gig of ram :x

[borg_7_of_9]

says I need a higher psu and the video card doesn't evenhave a gig of ram :x

The video card I linked Is a 1G gtx460 1G=1024MB

http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.php?action=getprice&id=3294556&platformid=1000

This should be Final now Corsair 650W psu
XFX GTX460 1G 725Mhz Graphics Card
And a slightly better Mother board..

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Even so, the psu might be too low, no?

http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.php?action=getprice&id=3294556&platformid=1000

This should be Final now Corsair 650W psu
XFX GTX460 1G 725Mhz Graphics Card
And a slightly better Mother board..



Great! That hlps a lot!

Should we now wait for a second opinion?

[borg_7_of_9]

Even so, the psu might be too low, no?

I's Overkill and a dame good brand Ill list my spc's just to give you an Idea of what 850 Watts can run

3 Case Fans
3 Westerndigital HDD's 2x320G 1x160G
1 SeaGate HDD 500G
3 Fan Ram cooler
2 Fan's for radiator
1 Water pump
CPU X9650 @ 3.6G (Core 2 Quad)
3G DDR3 1600Mhz ram
2 HD4890 graphic's card's Overclocked Edition (Cross fire x)
1 extra fan to cool the Northbridge
USB backlight keyboard

Yes you can if you like...

[Washell]

5770 is weaker hell you would do well with a hd4870/90 at that rez if dx 11 is a non issue

Not sure what you mean here...

I have a powerful CPU I want a powerful GPU to play a lot of the games at a high quality. Can't we just reduce the case, PSU, etc?

A good display uses a 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or 2560x1600 resolution. You picked a 1600x900 display. In terms of pixels for the GPU to push, it's 1.4 million pixels vs 2 million, 2.3 million and 4 million pixels. With only 1.4 million pixels, you'd be fine with a 5770. Alternatively, if you don't need or care about DX11 features, you could go with the DX10 option and get the 4870/4890.

Long story short, you can reduce the GPU because it won't effect the quality you can play the games at. If anything, if quality is that important to you, you should select a better display.

I don't really trust Seagate. I was using ibuypower earlier and it claimed I needed 700 watts

A store recommends a more powerful PSU? Jeez, I wonder if there's any ulterior motive... Like a larger profit margin.

PSU calculators, especially the one provide by stores, tend to present a worst case scenario. A more realistic one, sadly lost the address, would rate your system at 400-450 Watt. 500W would be tight. 600W would be nice. 700W would be future proof.

[borg_7_of_9]

A good display uses a 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or 2560x1600 resolution. You picked a 1600x900 display. In terms of pixels for the GPU to push, it's 1.4 million pixels vs 2 million, 2.3 million and 4 million pixels. With only 1.4 million pixels, you'd be fine with a 5770. Alternatively, if you don't need or care about DX11 features, you could go with the DX10 option and get the 4870/4890.

Long story short, you can reduce the GPU because it won't effect the quality you can play the games at. If anything, if quality is that important to you, you should select a better display.


look at post #4 mate and read my PM..

[Am.Col]

If anything you should put it together yourself instead of paying someone hundreds of dollars for the adult equivalent of snapping together legos.