Rayman1103's Mutation Mod

[Rayman1103]

Updated: As Of August 14th 2012

Useful Links:

Download Links:


You can download the mod via L4DMaps.com

Alternatively you can download the mod via the Steam Workshop by Subscribing

Community Links:


You can join my Mutation Mod Steam group here.

You can view my Mutation Mod's Facebook page here.

Here's an Tutorial on how to create your own custom Mutations.


Information About The Mod:

I've added two new lists on the main-menu, one which lists custom Mutations in category's, and the other with the ZSL events. There's 11 Mutation category's to choose from. To install the mod, either extract the VPK's from the ZIP folder, to your Add-ons folder. Or just launch the EXE and select where L4D2 is installed.

Information About Mutations:

All custom Mutations have to be played on a local server, unless you have a group server that has the addon installed. All official and community Mutations released by Valve can be played on any server.


List of Mutations:

Campaign Mutations:


Acid Trip by Rayman1103|PsyErotica
Air Raid by Rayman1103|PsyErotica
BerserkRAGE by dani1341
Big Daddy Co-Op by Tygerwoody|Rayman1103|PsyErotica
Blast Zone by Rayman1103|PsyErotica
Bleed Out by Valve
BooM60 by Rayman1103|PsyErotica
Boomer BBQ by Rayman1103|PsyErotica
Boomer Shooter by SR69MMJC
Brainshot by Rayman1103
Crouch Sprinter
Chainsaw Massacre by Valve
Chainsaw Realism
Chaos by John Volkov
Classic Campaign by dani1341
Classic Darkness Falls by ==Maverick==
Classic Mode by Thegreenthing16
Classic Special Delivery by Rayman1103
Common Problems by Rayman1103
Crowd Control
Darkness Falls by ==Maverick==
Darkness Falls SE by ==Maverick==
Deadliest Countdown by Rayman1103|CrazyMikeComics
Fire Storm by PsyErotica|Rayman1103
Four Swordsmen by Valve
Fully Charged by Karma Jockey
Gib Fest by Valve
Hard Eight by Valve
Hardcore Common Problems by Rayman1103
Hardcore Death's Door by Rayman1103
Hardcore Special Delivery by Rayman1103
Headshot! by Valve
Hunter Barrage by Rayman1103|PsyErotica
Hunting Party by Valve
Infestation by Rayman1103|PsyErotica
Insanity by John Volkov
Iron Man by Valve
Jockeys! by Karma Jockey
Last Gnome on Earth by Valve
Limited Resources by dani1341
Madness by DarkDragon
Panic Attack by Rayman1103
Party Hard by Rayman1103
Pitch Black Co-Op by Karma Jockey|Rayman1103
Pyromania by SuperNerd000
Random by Rayman1103
Realism Apocalypse by dab93
Room For One by Valve
Silent But Deadly by Karma Jockey
Snipe Fest by Karma Jockey
Spitters! by Karma Jockey
Suicide Boombers by Rayman1103
Super Hard Mode by SuperNerd000
Tank Attack by Rayman1103
Tank Bake by Rayman1103|PsyErotica
Taste of Your Own Medicine by Rayman1103|CrazyMikeComics
Ultra Realism by dani1341
Wrecking Crew by Rayman1103|PsyErotica


Community Mutations:


Confogl by ProdigySim
Death's Door by Rayman1103
Flu Season by Karma Jockey|SR69MMJC
Nightmare by Karma Jockey
Riding My Survivor by Winded
Special Delivery by Rayman1103


Uncommon Infected Mutations:


Biohazard
Coulrophobia
Deconstruction
Dirt Nap
Jimpocalypse
Riot Control
Uncommon Ground
Uncommon Ground Survival


Zombie Sports League:


Monday Morning M60 Massacre!!
Monday Night Survivor Race!!
Tuesday Morning Spitter Rage!!
Tuesday Night Tank Fight!!
Wednesday Morning Riot!!
Wednesday Night Gnome Patrol!!
Thursday Morning Claw Hammer!!
Thursday Night Jockey Trouble!!
Friday Morning Explosion!!
Friday Night Friendly Fire!!
Saturday Morning Special Edition!!
Saturday Night Tankball!!
Sunday Morning Smoker Roast!!
Sunday Night Suicide Run!!


Versus Mutations:


Big Daddy by Tygerwoody
Bleed Out Versus by Valve
Bleed Out Versus Co-Op by Rayman1103
Classic Versus by dani1341
Classic Versus Co-Op by Rayman1103
Death's Bleeding Tank by Krandel
Death's Door Versus by Rayman1103
Flame War by SuperNerd000
Green Mile
Healthpackalypse! by Valve
Hunting Party Versus by Rayman1103
Low Gravity by Rayman1103|PsyErotica
Realism Versus Co-Op by Rayman1103
Special Delivery Versus by Rayman1103
Taaannnk!! by Valve
Tankball Versus by PsyErotica|Rayman1103
Tank Busters by SuperNerd000
Twisted Tongue's by AwkwardOrpheus|Rayman1103
Versus Co-Op by Thegreenthing16|Rayman1103


Survival Mutations:


Bombardment by Rayman1103
Classic Survival by dani1341
Cocktail Party by SuperNerd000
Death's Door Survival by Rayman1103
Hordes by Rayman1103
Jimmy Gibbs Only! by dani1341
Nightmare by Karma Jockey
Onslaught by Rayman1103
Realism Survival by Rayman1103
Special Delivery Survival by Rayman1103
Tank Assault by Rayman1103
United We Stand by Rayman1103
Versus Survival by Valve


Scavenge Mutations:


Big Daddy Scavenge by Tygerwoody
Follow The Liter by Valve
Realism Scavenge by Rayman1103
Scavenge Co-Op by Rayman1103
Special Delivery Scavenge by Rayman1103


SinglePlayer Mode:


Singleplayer - Normal SP
Singleplayer Realism by Karma Jockey
Last Man On Earth by Valve
Last Survival On Earth by dani1341
Lone Gunman by Valve
One Against Many by RainingMetal|Rayman1103
One Man Army by SR69MMJC
Pitch Black by Karma Jockey
Solo Bombing Run by TheCombatMedic


2-Player Mutations:


Horror 4 Two by SuperNerd000
Horror 4 Two: Mercenaries by SuperNerd000
Horror 4 Two: Outbreak by SuperNerd000
Karma Bros by Rayman1103|CrazyMikeComics
Left 2 Die by Rayman1103|CrazyMikeComics
Right 2 Live by Rayman1103
Traveling Light by Xeesheava


The only problem is with Scavenge Co-Op where you play as both teams, and the game doesn't end. You'll have to press Esc and go back to the main-menu.

Please spread the word so more people can download this modification.

[Xeesheava]

What is Madness?

[ryancee7]

is it this "Madness – Also known as SPARTAAAA! Just kidding. In this mode no special infected will spawn, however normal infected will spawn much more frequently, will move faster, and will deal increased damage. In addition, there will also be an increase in the rate of random panic events."?

[mattdamonsblues]

Great job unlocking these, there is demand for all of these obviously.

Valve - how about unlocking them all for us and making it an even more robust game? Yes, it might split up the player base even more....

[Stagger Lee]

How exactly does this work? You will need a server that has it loaded it would seem so how do I find a server playing one of these?

[Rayman1103]

is it this "Madness – Also known as SPARTAAAA! Just kidding. In this mode no special infected will spawn, however normal infected will spawn much more frequently, will move faster, and will deal increased damage. In addition, there will also be an increase in the rate of random panic events."?

Yes that's the one.

[ryancee7]

How exactly does this work? You will need a server that has it loaded it would seem so how do I find a server playing one of these?

Maybe it's only supported on local server? Right now? or?

So If I hosted local server and someone else with the vpk addon searched for a game, mine would come up?

[Rayman1103]

Maybe it's only supported on local server? Right now? or?

So If I hosted local server and someone else with the vpk addon searched for a game, mine would come up?

Yes local servers should work that way. I couldn't test it with someone else, but that's how it should be. I did test to make sure the modes were playable.

[HighFlyer15]

Yes local servers should work that way. I couldn't test it with someone else, but that's how it should be. I did test to make sure the modes were playable.
If this is just like the first mod that did this, back when mutations were new, then local servers doesn't work this way, sadly..
Wish they did :(

[Xeesheava]

I'll save you one post:


How i put this on xbox?


You can't :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[ryancee7]

I got one last question for you haha.

If I put this vpk in my servers addon folder will it work if I make a lobby with this and connect to my server?

[Rayman1103]

I got one last question for you haha.

If I put this vpk in my servers addon folder will it work if I make a lobby with this and connect to my server?

It should work, especially for the hidden maps.

[KoopaEaterMKII]

Make info for the customs please.

[Rayman1103]

Make info for the customs please.

Give me a sec... Adding them now.

[Rayman1103]

I've added a little info for the custom Mutations. Please let me know what you think about my custom Mutations, please note that Madness is not mine. Like I said I'll update the file every Friday, and possibly include more custom Mutations.

[GamingAwesome1]

I decree that this man is a genius and this mod is the single greatest thing I have ever put in my add-ons folder.

[Rayman1103]

I decree that this man is a genius and this mod is the single greatest thing I have ever put in my add-ons folder.

Tank you very much. Have some rep.

[Rayman1103]

Bump so others can download my mod.

Anyone else test if it works in Online play?

[ryancee7]

For Common Problem SI still spawn.

I never got to test online yet. If I find anymore things I'll post em up.

[Rayman1103]

For Common Problem SI still spawn.

I never got to test online yet. If I find anymore things I'll post em up.

Thanks for posting any errors that you find. Common Problem was a last minute addition, I'll work on fixing them for next Fridays update.

[JediMastr80]

Wow, very good thread. I've been wanting to play some of the Other Mutations, or some i missed out on.

+ Rep. :D

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[Rayman1103]

Wow, very good thread. I've been wanting to play some of the Other Mutations, or some i missed out on.

+ Rep. :D

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Thanks for the Rep, and for the cookie.

[JediMastr80]

Thanks for the Rep, and for the cookie.
No Problem. Just don't complain if the cookie doesn't taste good. :D

[riptian]

pretty cool. send you a private msg.

[drtim]

excellent. works brilliantly!

[PsyErotica]

Pretty nifty. Am playing it as I speak but I can verify the special delivery has commons. The first map you start on you get none but as you go to the next map they spawn in. We just did parish 1, no common then on 2 we got some, then Steam went down. When Steam came back up we started again on parish 2 and this time no common, so somethin is allowing them to spawn after the initial map.

[Spycake]

You can do this already without downloading anything.

[PsyErotica]

You can do this already without downloading anything.

True but it's more of a hassle then having the options at the main menu to choose from.

[Spycake]

True but it's more of a hassle then having the options at the main menu to choose from.
I don't consider typing three words in the console a hassle. It takes longer to navigate through the menu.

[dani1341]

hmm interesting theory man !

cmutation1 - Boomer Shooter
cmutation2 - Chainsaw Realism
cmutation3 - Classic Campaign
cmutation4 - Cleaned
cmutation5 - Darkness
cmutation6 - Flaming Boomers
cmutation7 - Last Survival On Earth
cmutation8 - Low Gravity
cmutation9 - Melee
cmutation10 - Nightmare
cmutation11 - One Man Army
cmutation12 - Pitch Black
cmutation13 - BeserkeRAGE
cmutation14 - Realism Survival
cmutation15 - Rifles
cmutation16 - Sand Storm
cmutation17 - Slow Motion
cmutation18 - Snipers Only
cmutation19 - Spitters
cmutation20 - Tanks Only
cmutation21 - UberTank
cmutation22 - Ultra Realism x2
cmutation23 - Last Two On Earth
cmutation24 - Last Two Survival On Earth
cmutation25 - The Last Samurai
cmutation26 - Ultra Realism
cmutation27 - Karate Hunters
cmutation28 - Smoker Saws
cmutation29 - Jimmy Gibbs Only!
cmutation30 - Classic Survival
cmutation31 - Last Duo On Earth (Versus)
cmutation32 - Survival Madness
cmutation33 - Last Chainsaw On Earth
cmutation34 - M60 Massacre
cmutation35 - Matrix
cmutation36 - Tank Assault
cmutation37 - UberWitch
cmutation38 - Limited Resources

Custom Mutations by SR69MMJC : Boomer Shooter , One Man Army

Custom Mutations by KJ (Karma Jockey) : Chainsaw Realism , Nightmare , Pitch Black , Snipers Only , Spitters , Tanks Only , UberTank , Ultra Realism x2

Custom Mutation by george_fn : BeserkeRAGE , Limited Resources (50%)

Custom Mutations by dani1341 : Classic Campaign, Cleaned , Darkness , Flaming Boomers , Last Survival On Earth , Low Gravity , Melee , Realism Survival , Rifles , Sand Storm , Last Two On Earth , Last Two Survival On Earth , The Last Samurai , Ultra Realism , Karate Hunters , Smoker Saws , Jimmy Gibbs Only! , Classic Survival , Last Duo On Earth , Survival Madness , Last Chainsaw On Earth , M60 Massacre , Matrix , Tank Assault , UberWitch , Limited Resources (50%)

... most interesting is i made also a Realism Survival ...

Edit : and dont ask me how long it took me to make Classic Campaign

[Spycake]

Alright, I'll bite. I installed the addon and everything. Problem is, the custom menu options aren't showing up.

[Karma Jockey]

Hey Rayman1103, Ive made a few custom Mutations, is there any way you would be willing to add them to this? Or if I can have permission to add to my version of this addon?

[Karma Jockey]

hmm interesting theory man !





... most interesting is i made also a Realism Survival ...

Edit : and dont ask me how long it took me to make Classic Campaign

Just wow, thats a lot of custom mutations! Any way you would be willing to share some of them?

[dani1341]

Just wow, thats a lot of custom mutations! Any way you would be willing to share some of them?

Im waiting for a friend to make a installer for me :) it will work for every version :)

[Karma Jockey]

Im waiting for a friend to make a installer for me :) it will work for every version :)

Cool.

[Voyager II]

I really want to get this, but having an add-on will probably mess my game up next time valve releases an update.

[Karma Jockey]

I really want to get this, but having an add-on will probably mess my game up next time valve releases an update.

Ugh that happens to me too...

[playn]

Alright, I'll bite. I installed the addon and everything. Problem is, the custom menu options aren't showing up.

same problem for me

[Karma Jockey]

same problem for me

Did you enable it under extra -> addons? Also copy and paste the .vpk into the addons folder.

[chazzerman286]

I really want to play the mutations from this video
Custom Mutations Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fzITcYclGY&feature=related)
The mutations here look awesome, especially the first one.

[dani1341]

Here is a example of one of my Custom Mutations :)

Jimmy Gibbs Only!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQSAQzo4mOU :)

Or Classic Campaign :

Part1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4KuJK2qYeQ
Part2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw7eQMaTZQk
Part3:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wejEBcULBBg

[Karma Jockey]

Here is a example of one of my Custom Mutations :)

Jimmy Gibbs Only!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQSAQzo4mOU :)

Or Classic Campaign :

Part1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4KuJK2qYeQ
Part2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw7eQMaTZQk
Part3:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wejEBcULBBg

Hey and with the new DLC you can now choose the L4D1 survivors as the addon characters.

[dani1341]

Hey and with the new DLC you can now choose the L4D1 survivors as the addon characters.

the problem is that the survivors are forced by the missions file
-.-

[Karma Jockey]

the problem is that the survivors are forced by the missions file
-.-

But you can actually change that apparently. Without having to download the whole campaign. Check here: http://www.l4dmaps.com/details.php?file=7319

[dani1341]

But you can actually change that apparently. Without having to download the whole campaign. Check here: http://www.l4dmaps.com/details.php?file=7319


thats changing them for every game mode -.- not for only 1 :(

[GamingAwesome1]

It's actually only just occured to me that this is the same person who unlocked the hidden survival maps and did the Survivor Swap mod.

I also made a quick video just whizzing through the menu showing off the mod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avi-ILdxohw

(Video is still processing so it'll look a bit blurry for a while)

[Karma Jockey]

thats changing them for every game mode -.- not for only 1 :(

Well if the mutation addon changes the survivors then only when the player wants to play classic would they enable it.

[Karma Jockey]

I have a new custom mutation ready to play right here: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1530761

[dani1341]

I have a new custom mutation ready to play right here: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1530761

nice work :) and i made Classic Campaign mutation but in 10 mins :D sky changes too :) i needed just to make a little search in google and found it :P used also l4d 1 skybox materials :D

[Karma Jockey]

nice work :) and i made Classic Campaign mutation but in 10 mins :D sky changes too :) i needed just to make a little search in google and found it :P used also l4d 1 skybox materials :D

Cool. and the only reason it took me 15 mins was because I got confused as too why the charger didnt spawn until near the end of the map... lol

[Helio 69]

Thanks for this cool add-on! But I'm having trouble with LMOE...it searches for lobbies instead of going to a singleplayer type menu...anyone else having this problem?

[Karma Jockey]

Thanks for this cool add-on! But I'm having trouble with LMOE...it searches for lobbies instead of going to a singleplayer type menu...anyone else having this problem?

If it goes to a lobby then just make a local lobby and start it, no one will be able to join anyways.

[Helio 69]

ok so this is normal then i guess. Thx.

[GamingAwesome1]

I just quickly played through all of the custom campaign mutations. I haven't encountered any issues with any of them.

They all seem to function as intended. Madness in particular was really hard but a crazy amount of fun!

[dani1341]

One simple question :) why you havent removed sv_cheats 1 and sv_cheats 0 from Madness ? it brakes the gamemode and achievements -.-

Edit : also i think its funny because normal people have made together more than 40 custom mutations :D

[nico57300]

Man, your thread has put a HUGE smile on my face! This is so ♥♥♥♥ing awesome! +rep

[Rayman1103]

It's actually only just occured to me that this is the same person who unlocked the hidden survival maps and did the Survivor Swap mod.

I also made a quick video just whizzing through the menu showing off the mod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avi-ILdxohw

(Video is still processing so it'll look a bit blurry for a while)

Yes I made Survivor Swap, Hidden Maps Unlocked etc.

Also I'm glad everyone is enjoying my mod.

One simple question :) why you havent removed sv_cheats 1 and sv_cheats 0 from Madness ? it brakes the gamemode and achievements -.-

Edit : also i think its funny because normal people have made together more than 40 custom mutations :D

I'll see if the game mode suffers any reduced performance when I turn it off.

If anyone would like me to include their custom Mutations in my mod send me the download links and I'll add them.

[JMantis]

Great work Rayman!

Something I recall seeing before was a custom mutation called Versus Single player. It basically meant that you could play an entire campaign as Infected, using the right mouse button to change SI.

Was great for practicing as Infected, maybe something to add in the future.

[Rayman1103]

Great work Rayman!

Something I recall seeing before was a custom mutation called Versus Single player. It basically meant that you could play an entire campaign as Infected, using the right mouse button to change SI.

Was great for practicing as Infected, maybe something to add in the future.

Thanks. That Mutation was Versus CO-OP from Thegreenthing16. I can't add it since Valve changed the command from sb_all_bot_team 1, to sb_all_bot_game 1. I can't get the Survivor bots to move now. Anyone know of another command that makes the Survivors move?

[ryancee7]

Yeah in launch options you need +allow_all_bot_survivor_team 1

[Rayman1103]

Yeah in launch options you need +allow_all_bot_survivor_team 1

Thanks for that. I'll include Versus CO-OP in next Fridays update.

[ApeSpecter]

Nice job, this is easier to use than the older mutation mod for l4d2.

[ryancee7]

I've also noticed for Special Delivery after the first map the game reverts back to normal for me, lost of CI again and normal SI spawn rates. First map works great, loved it.

[Blobman001]

I've also noticed for Special Delivery after the first map the game reverts back to normal for me, lost of CI again and normal SI spawn rates. First map works great, loved it.

well in the first map if u die and restart it goes back to normal to

[aphex187]

What a joy this is! thx man really appreciated ;)

[Rayman1103]

I've also noticed for Special Delivery after the first map the game reverts back to normal for me, lost of CI again and normal SI spawn rates. First map works great, loved it.

I tested it and I'm having the same issue. Before I uploaded the mod it had worked fine, I know because I played No Mercy all the way through. Glade you love it, hopefully I can solve this issue.

[ryancee7]

well in the first map if u die and restart it goes back to normal to

Oh hadn't noticed that. I never died though I came close because the bots left me smoked for like 5 minutes before bunting me.

-----

Anyway if you can fix it for the next update it would be great. I thought it was really fun and funny :)

[Rayman1103]

In next Friday's update I'll include new icons for the Mutation modes. Thanks to gandhi2, for letting me use them.

[chris1063]

I ♥♥♥♥ING LOVE YOU!!! AND WHY THE ♥♥♥♥ CAN'T I GIVE THE SAME POST 1000 REP!

[Audax]

Will Versus CO-OP allow you to start without having to have any friends join the lobby? So it can basically be Single Player Versus also?

[Rayman1103]

Will Versus CO-OP allow you to start without having to have any friends join the lobby? So it can basically be Single Player Versus also?

There might not be a Versus CO-OP after all. I tried using +allow_all_bot_survivor_team 1, but it isn't working for me. If anyone knows how to get it working please let me know.

[Curs3d]

There might not be a Versus CO-OP after all. I tried using +allow_all_bot_survivor_team 1, but it isn't working for me. If anyone knows how to get it working please let me know.

Did you put the +allow_all_bot_survivor_team 1 in the launch properties of L4D2 (game library --> right-click L4D2 --> "Properties" --> "Set launch options..." --> +allow_all_bot_survivor_team 1)? If you have more than one launch options you'd like to use, use a comma to separate them (example: +allow_all_bot_survivor_team 1, -novid).

I use this launch option, along with these command lines to play single-player versus against bots:

sv_cheats 1
sb_all_bot_team 1
director_force_versus_start
vs_max_team_switches 99


I suppose for versus co-op to work, you would have to enable cheats. Not a problem if this has the potential to let me play versus co-op with some buddies. :D

Best of luck, Rayman! I hope to GAWD you get versus co-op to work!

[Rayman1103]

Did you put the +allow_all_bot_survivor_team 1 in the launch properties of L4D2 (game library --> right-click L4D2 --> "Properties" --> "Set launch options..." --> +allow_all_bot_survivor_team 1)? If you have more than one launch options you'd like to use, use a comma to separate them (example: +allow_all_bot_survivor_team 1, -novid).

I use this launch option, along with these command lines to play single-player versus against bots:

sv_cheats 1
sb_all_bot_team 1
director_force_versus_start
vs_max_team_switches 99


I suppose for versus co-op to work, you would have to enable cheats. Not a problem if this has the potential to let me play versus co-op with some buddies. :D

Best of luck, Rayman! I hope to GAWD you get versus co-op to work!

I didn't set launch properties, I'll have to do that. Thanks. I'll try it out tomorrow. Yeah I hope I can get it to work too.

[dani1341]

Hey you know what :) your "Mobs" mutation remembers me on my "Survival Madness" mutation ...

[Alfie-SR]

FYI, sb_all_bot_team no longer works
With the sacrifice, it's now sb_all_bot_game


Also, this is a really nice addon, but I have a few complaints.

"Play with friends" vs "Play online" - I think only Play Online should actually be there since you can change it in the lobby/while creating it anyway. This would also free up space in the menu since you'd be able to remove one of the menus without losing functionality
Secondly, the menu looks quite bad with mutations plastered over it. I think you should disable the Mutation option in the menu (You technically have 2 copies each week with this) and change some images, such as Survival with a red background for survival mutations, same with scavenge, default mutation icon for campaign mutations and perhaps the default icon but with 2 of them, one behind/next to another, for versus mutations?

Equally, names need to fit, I suggest these:
Coop Mut
Vs Mut
Surv Mut
Scav Mut


Mut standing for mutation, could be replaced by Mute or Mutate

Not that it's your job, I also think the menu could be rearranged a bit for consistancy
Singleplayer (should be moved from the end, but feel free to disagree)
Campaign
Realism
Coop Mutations (Mutations should be after realism as they are with versus)
Versus
Realism Versus
Versus Mutations
Survival
Survival Mutations
Scavenge
Scavenge Mutations

That's just my 2 cents.

[Choreamajor]

Thank you a lot for this :)

I was going to ask if you want custom icons for the added options in the main menu (because I could have made some as a little thanks) but I see that you already got those.

Oh well, I'll just +rep you instead :)

[OrangeNinja]

I sent you a msg, but nvm
Could anyone give me a detailed tutorial how to do this? S: can't find anything on google... thanks
I already -
1.Downloaded and installed the file (it appears on the extras > addons menu, and it checked)
2.Downloaded the add-on thingy from Steam
3.Tried bunch of console commands
still nothing S:

[Rayman1103]

I sent you a msg, but nvm
Could anyone give me a detailed tutorial how to do this? S: can't find anything on google... thanks
I already -
1.Downloaded and installed the file (it appears on the extras > addons menu, and it checked)
2.Downloaded the add-on thingy from Steam
3.Tried bunch of console commands
still nothing S:

Edit: You don't have a Mac. It should be working for you. You're saying nothing extra is appearing in the main-menu?

[Alfie-SR]

I sent you a msg, but nvm
Could anyone give me a detailed tutorial how to do this? S: can't find anything on google... thanks
I already -
1.Downloaded and installed the file (it appears on the extras > addons menu, and it checked)
2.Downloaded the add-on thingy from Steam
3.Tried bunch of console commands
still nothing S:

Uncheck and recheck the addon in the menu, although it's already checked it won't take effect until it's "refreshed".

Also, Rayman, please take some of my ideas into consideration :c

[OrangeNinja]

Uncheck and recheck the addon in the menu, although it's already checked it won't take effect until it's "refreshed".

Also, Rayman, please take some of my ideas into consideration :c

Had a long convo with Rayman, still no solution x.x and thats the first thing I tried S:
If you have other suggestion, go ahead

[Alfie-SR]

Had a long convo with Rayman, still no solution x.x and thats the first thing I tried S:
If you have other suggestion, go ahead

Disable it, close the menu, wait a bit, re-enable it?

Disable it, restart L4D2, re-enable it?

Disable the addon, close L4D2, extract and repack the VPK, open L4D2, enable the addon, close the menu, wait, reopen it, disable it (or just disable it if it's already enabled), restart L4D2, enable it again, then try?

[Rayman1103]

Also, Rayman, please take some of my ideas into consideration :c

Well I'm adding new icons for the Mutation game modes. I'll keep the default Mutation mode for now. I'll think about having only one Online Mutation list, instead of two.

[Rayman1103]

Will Versus CO-OP allow you to start without having to have any friends join the lobby? So it can basically be Single Player Versus also?

Update on Versus CO-OP! Coming OCT 29th

Yes you can start without any friends in the lobby. I've added the Infected as a playable character for CO-OP, now before you say, "No that will mess up games online when you're playing Campaign and there's playable Infected." You can't play as the Infected except in the modes that allow it. Meaning you start Campaign, then pick Infected and play, when you start, you'll start as Nick. It'll only let you play as the Infected in the modes that have the "playercontrolledzombies" "1", command.

[MeatCircus]

Great mod! I request Boomer Shooter be added to it if at all possible :)

[Rayman1103]

Great mod! I request Boomer Shooter be added to it if at all possible :)

Thanks. And yeah I'm adding Boomer Shooter on Friday OCT 29th, along with some custom Mutations from Karma Jockey.

[NickSt]

This is a very helpful .vpk.

Thanks a lot :D

The only problem with it is that there are never any lobbies for any of the custom mutations (I'm assuming because not many people know about this and therefore aren't hosting lobbies of it) :/

[Rayman1103]

This is a very helpful .vpk.

Thanks a lot :D

The only problem with it is that there are never any lobbies for any of the custom mutations (I'm assuming because not many people know about this and therefore aren't hosting lobbies of it) :/

Yeah that's why. Please spread the word so more people can play it. I'll be updating the mod weekly, every Friday.

[GamingAwesome1]

Thanks. And yeah I'm adding Boomer Shooter on Friday OCT 29th, along with some custom Mutations from Karma Jockey.

Yeah!

I'm a little worried that the drop down list may get a bit crowded.

The campaign mutation list is pretty long as it is.

Have you considered perhaps giving the custom mutations their own menu or something? May help a little.

[Rayman1103]

Yeah!

I'm a little worried that the drop down list may get a bit crowded.

The campaign mutation list is pretty long as it is.

Have you considered perhaps giving the custom mutations their own menu or something? May help a little.

Yeah I was thinking about having a Custom CO-OP Mutations list. Keeping the current one only for Valve's Mutations.

[ryancee7]

I played Hard Eight today and chose Official Dedicated and it worked, I guess Valve Official Servers have ALL mutations on there.

No one joined me though as no one could get there without the addon :P

[The_insane_3004]

Words can not express how much I freakin love you right now

[Curs3d]

I played Hard Eight today and chose Official Dedicated and it worked, I guess Valve Official Servers have ALL mutations on there.

No one joined me though as no one could get there without the addon :P

Technically speaking, people don't need the add-on to join you. They need the add-on to see your lobby/game.

Simply stated, if you host a previously released official mutation lobby/game, your friends should be able to join you without any issues or add-on needed (via invite or in-game friend list). In addition, you'll also be able to connect to official servers, without the potential issue of running into servers that are running other mods.

But if you wish to play player-created mutations with your friends, then they WILL need this add-on.

Anywho, still looking forward to that release of versus co-op next Friday, Rayman! :D

[HoopleDoople]

If I want to do a mutation on expert (for achievement progress), how do I set it up so that the mutation starts on expert? Switching to expert after it starts doesn't count for achievement progress.

[Curs3d]

If I want to do a mutation on expert (for achievement progress), how do I set it up so that the mutation starts on expert? Switching to expert after it starts doesn't count for achievement progress.

You... choose the difficulty before creating a lobby..? :confused: Heck, you can even edit the difficulty while you're still IN the lobby.

[HoopleDoople]

You... choose the difficulty before creating a lobby..? :confused: Heck, you can even edit the difficulty while you're still IN the lobby.

I did this before and it worked. Now it doesn't for no apparent reason. I thought maybe I misremembered what I had done, but apparently not. Any ideas?

[MeatCircus]

If I want to do a mutation on expert (for achievement progress), how do I set it up so that the mutation starts on expert? Switching to expert after it starts doesn't count for achievement progress.

1st vote it to expert then vote to restart campaign and it will count towards the achievement.

[HoopleDoople]

1st vote it to expert then vote to restart campaign and it will count towards the achievement.

Ah good idea. Thanks. Unfortunately this might cause problems with Room for One. I'll have to test.

[Curs3d]

Ah good idea. Thanks. Unfortunately this might cause problems with Room for One. I'll have to test.

Actually, "Room for One" is slightly glitched. Under the official mutation, you're only able to host a lobby with the selected campaign and it starts off in the finale. However, with this add-on, you can choose the starting map. And if you choose the finale and vote to restart the campaign, you'll start from the beginning.

If you're doing this for the expert achievement, it might be best to just do it in "Gib Fest". Bots + unlimited M60's = win. ;)

[HoopleDoople]

Actually, "Room for One" is slightly glitched. Under the official mutation, you're only able to host a lobby with the selected campaign and it starts off in the finale. However, with this add-on, you can choose the starting map. And if you choose the finale and vote to restart the campaign, you'll start from the beginning.

If you're doing this for the expert achievement, it might be best to just do it in "Gib Fest". Bots + unlimited M60's = win. ;)

I got Room for One to work just by using the console to load the finale. Beat Dark Carnival with it. I've been doing some Gib Fest too, beating Dead Center. I tried Swamp Fever with Gib Fest and beat it (without it counting since I changed difficulty in game). Subsequent attempts the double tanks have been to much for me to handle

[Euclix]

Wow just played a great game of bleed out. I didn't get to play it before. It's a lot of fun. Thanks for this addon.

Two things. I couldn't find the single player mutations. Not sure where they are? Or if they weren't there at all for me.

Also, I joined one bleed out game that appeared to be created by people who had a friends only game and they didn't seem to know about this addon. I'm not sure what all this means. But I find that dropping in on friends only games typically is a recipe for disaster as they automatically assume you are a haxor. They were cool but you could tell they were ready for me to start team killing; which of course I would never do.

I experienced this a lot with the openserverbrowser command so I stopped using it.

Oh and also, will we need to redownload the vpk each friday to stay updated?

[ryancee7]

Playing these mutations, like Hard Eight, is it saved to your steam stats, or because it's no longer 'out' technically does it not save?

[Rayman1103]

Wow just played a great game of bleed out. I didn't get to play it before. It's a lot of fun. Thanks for this addon.

Two things. I couldn't find the single player mutations. Not sure where they are? Or if they weren't there at all for me.

Also, I joined one bleed out game that appeared to be created by people who had a friends only game and they didn't seem to know about this addon. I'm not sure what all this means. But I find that dropping in on friends only games typically is a recipe for disaster as they automatically assume you are a haxor. They were cool but you could tell they were ready for me to start team killing; which of course I would never do.

I experienced this a lot with the openserverbrowser command so I stopped using it.

Oh and also, will we need to redownload the vpk each friday to stay updated?

The Singleplayer Mutations are in the Singleplayer menu. They're Friends games, but no body can join anyway. It's the only way I could add them. Yes there will be a new version of the VPK each Friday.

[Rayman1103]

I'm not sure how to fix Special Delivery. Anything I do seems to not fix the issue. Does anyone know how I can fix it? For those that don't know, when you complete, or die on a map, the game loads the normal Campaign game again, instead of the Special Delivery game.

[Odyssey1319]

The Singleplayer Mutations are in the Singleplayer menu. They're Friends games, but no body can join anyway. It's the only way I could add them. Yes there will be a new version of the VPK each Friday.

Actually, I've been able to do Last Man on Earth in co-op.

[Rayman1103]

Actually, I've been able to do Last Man on Earth in co-op.

I see. I don't beleive there's any other way to make it solo for them. If there is I'll fix it. Thanks for letting me know.

[Euclix]

You know what would be great? A way to search for all mutation lobbies. That why you don't have to go " I wonder if anyone is playing bleed out, no" "I wonder if anyone is playing hard eight, oh no..." "oh maybe someone is playing TAAANNNK! oh no...." I don't know if this is possible, but it would be great to see implemented.

[Star76]

They SHOULD just make it permeant to be able to play any of the mutations as you wish. Right after they fix them :]

[Rayman1103]

You know what would be great? A way to search for all mutation lobbies. That why you don't have to go " I wonder if anyone is playing bleed out, no" "I wonder if anyone is playing hard eight, oh no..." "oh maybe someone is playing TAAANNNK! oh no...." I don't know if this is possible, but it would be great to see implemented.

Sorry not possible. The only way is if Valve merges them into one lobby as an option, I can't see anyway in doing that myself. Stay tuned on Friday when I update this mod and add Versus CO-OP, Karma Jockey's Mutations, Boomer Shooter, One Man Army, and Hords (Created by me).

[Euclix]

Sorry not possible. The only way is if Valve merges them into one lobby as an option, I can't see anyway in doing that myself. Stay tuned on Friday when I update this mod and add Versus CO-OP, Karma Jockey's Mutations, Boomer Shooter, One Man Army, and Hords (Created by me).

Well it doesn't really surprise me that it's not possible. Anyways looking forward to the update.

[Odyssey1319]

I see. I don't beleive there's any other way to make it solo for them. If there is I'll fix it. Thanks for letting me know.

I don't know, I think keeping the co-op functionality would be a nice idea, if even for a variation or similar custom mutation. Just ramp up the amount of Special Infected that appear.

[Rayman1103]

I don't know, I think keeping the co-op functionality would be a nice idea, if even for a variation or similar custom mutation. Just ramp up the amount of Special Infected that appear.

My custom Mutation "Special Delivery" is like that. If only I could fix it correctly. Anyway I looked and there's no way that I can make it completly solo. Just consider it an added bonus.

[JFunkX15]

Sorry, not sure if this has been mentioned before. Was wondering if you could combine a few mutations to make a new one? I'm thinking a mutation that makes it feel more like a traditional zombie movie would be neat.

Combine Headshot with Madness and then make the zombies speed low (walking speed) and increase their HP.

[Odyssey1319]

My custom Mutation "Special Delivery" is like that. If only I could fix it correctly. Anyway I looked and there's no way that I can make it completly solo. Just consider it an added bonus.

You should consider taking a look at Last Man on Earth's script to fix Special Delivery. Even with more than one player, the common Infected stay gone.

[Rayman1103]

Sorry, not sure if this has been mentioned before. Was wondering if you could combine a few mutations to make a new one? I'm thinking a mutation that makes it feel more like a traditional zombie movie would be neat.

Combine Headshot with Madness and then make the zombies speed low (walking speed) and increase their HP.

I might consider doing something like that.

You should consider taking a look at Last Man on Earth's script to fix Special Delivery. Even with more than one player, the common Infected stay gone.

I'll check it out tomorrow. Thanks for the tip.

[ryancee7]

I've ran into another issue, I dunno if Bleed out was always like this but for me it's CONSTANT mob after mob after mob, to the point it's really hard to win.

I tried a different campaign and restarting but it's still horded to death, and this was on Official.

[Euclix]

I've ran into another issue, I dunno if Bleed out was always like this but for me it's CONSTANT mob after mob after mob, to the point it's really hard to win.

I tried a different campaign and restarting but it's still horded to death, and this was on Official.

yeah i'm pretty sure bleed out is supposed to be like that. It's really hard. I just spent like three hours trying to the parish on expert bleed out. Only made it about halfway through the fourth map in three hours. It's HARD. really hard and we even had four players.

There may be another strategy to this mutation but as far as I can tell you just have to rush, you barely even have time to pick up your team mates because the zombies just don't stop

Plus bleed out has to be the same to play it on official dedicated. If it were different, I don't think it would work.

[Curs3d]

I've ran into another issue, I dunno if Bleed out was always like this but for me it's CONSTANT mob after mob after mob, to the point it's really hard to win.

I tried a different campaign and restarting but it's still horded to death, and this was on Official.

Euclix has it right. During Bleed Out, the panic event is never-ending, forcing you to rush through the map. Luckily, though, the majority of the horde spawns behind you, so it's not too bad as long as you don't linger in one place too long.

I think the campaign that's easiest to do Bleed Out on is The Passing; mostly due to the fact of getting lucky with a cache of adrenalines or pills. But it's too bad that it doesn't let you carry two pills/adrenalines since most of the time, you won't have a pack to carry (at least defibs still spawn).

[ryancee7]

I suppose you're right, I looked at a few vids on youtube and it looks like it's hordes every 5 seconds, for example in this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyoUZog1-dc you can hear the horde que as much as I could when I played dead center 2 days ago. I just never remembered it like that. I guess it's been so long haha.

[Rayman1103]

2 more days for my update. Let the countdown begin.

[Euclix]

Luckily, though, the majority of the horde spawns behind you, so it's not too bad as long as you don't linger in one place too long.

The problem is that in maps like the quarter and the cementary or even the fair grounds, there are loop around points where the horde that was behind you, is now suddenly in font of you. And this creates a very sticky situation. The passing doesn't have too many of these. Probably only on the first map where you back track on that street before the wedding.

[JMantis]

2 more days for my update. Let the countdown begin.
Looking forward to it! :)

[ryancee7]

2 more days for my update. Let the countdown begin.

Oh goody! Did you manage to fix special delivery?

[Rayman1103]

Oh goody! Did you manage to fix special delivery?

Yes Special Delivery is fixed! Also I've removed the sv_cheats commands from Madness.

[nico57300]

Today is the day! Can't wait for playing Karma Jockey's mutations with my friends :)

[JMantis]

Just had a question about the upcoming Versus COOP mutation, I know it's possible for the bots to walk through a map themselves and get to the saferoom but will they also activate crescendo events (like the Parish bridge for instance) by themselves?

[Rayman1103]

Just had a question about the upcoming Versus COOP mutation, I know it's possible for the bots to walk through a map themselves and get to the saferoom but will they also activate crescendo events (like the Parish bridge for instance) by themselves?

I know they wont get gas cans in Dead Center, and The Passing. I believe they'll start the other finales, not sure though. Otherwise you can switch teams, start the finale, and switch teams again.

[Anooboi]

So those are supposed to be in the main-menu right? I cant see them tho, do I need to have a special access or something to open it?
I've clicked on the file and it said it was succesfully installed, but theres nothing showing up :D

[crash2004]

So those are supposed to be in the main-menu right? I cant see them tho, do I need to have a special access or something to open it?
I've clicked on the file and it said it was succesfully installed, but theres nothing showing up :D

You should see some extra icons in the list. I can't remember the names offhand but I think it's custom mutations, vs mutations, etc. It's the same area where you would select single player, campaign, versus, etc. Wouldn't hurt to try to copy it into the addons folder instead of just double clicking it.
Steam\steamapps\common\left 4 dead 2\left4dead2\addons

[Rayman1103]

So those are supposed to be in the main-menu right? I cant see them tho, do I need to have a special access or something to open it?
I've clicked on the file and it said it was succesfully installed, but theres nothing showing up :D

Can you tell me if you have a Mac. Because I'm not sure if it works with the Mac, it should but another Mac user couldn't play my mod.

[Anooboi]

Worked, thanks a ton :D
I am on a regular PC with w7 but that doesnt matter anymore I guess :)

[Rayman1103]

Worked, thanks a ton :D
I am on a regular PC with w7 but that doesnt matter anymore I guess :)

Thanks for letting me know anyway. Glad you got it working. After Valve updates the Mutation, I'll update my mod.

[Rayman1103]

Updated Mod!

The download link has changed so please click the link at the first page. I had to remove the hidden maps and include them in another VPK, because the maps are what caused some Mutations to not work. Thanks to Valve's Kerry Davis for helping me fix Special Delivery.

If there's any problems please let me know and I'll fix them for next Friday's update.

Now have fun!

[xxxVJ300xxx]

Would be nice if Valve made the single player mutations always avalible to play since It wont split up who plays what.

[JFunkX15]

Nice update Rayman.

I was wondering about Pitch Black. My first thought was that it would be exactly that, pitch black. After playing I found out that it's hunters only, you're by yourself, and a little darker.

Would it be possible to make a mutation that is in fact pitch black with the only light being the one from your flashlight? That would be some scary ♥♥♥♥!

[Rayman1103]

Nice update Rayman.

I was wondering about Pitch Black. My first thought was that it would be exactly that, pitch black. After playing I found out that it's hunters only, you're by yourself, and a little darker.

Would it be possible to make a mutation that is in fact pitch black with the only light being the one from your flashlight? That would be some scary ♥♥♥♥!

Thanks. Karma Jockey created that Mutation, and he was suppose to get an updated version of Pitch Black out before I updated my mod. But as you can see that didn't happen. I'll include it in next Friday's update if he gets it completed.

[LemonBottle]

How do you start the mutations?

[JFunkX15]

Thanks. Karma Jockey created that Mutation, and he was suppose to get an updated version of Pitch Black out before I updated my mod. But as you can see that didn't happen. I'll include it in next Friday's update if he gets it completed.

Good to hear man. Thanks to both of you, and everyone else who's creating these custom mutations, for all your hard work.

[Rayman1103]

How do you start the mutations?

They will be on the main-menu, in a few extra lists. Otherwise in the console enter "c1m1_hotel specialdelivery" etc.

[Blobman001]

can we get some mirrors maybe? Im trying to download this and it keeps saying the page is to busy to respond

[Odyssey1319]

can we get some mirrors maybe? Im trying to download this and it keeps saying the page is to busy to respond

I'm getting this too. It's very frustrating.

[ryancee7]

Sweet I'm downloading now! I love this mod, also thanks for fixing Special Delivery, and thanks to Kerry for helpin'

I'm gonna have some fun with that now!

Edit, I'm gettin this "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to download903.mediafire.com" Maybe it's busy? I'm gonna wait a bit then try again, usually mediafire works great for me. If the download is busy thats a good thing, people are gettin' it :D

[Odyssey1319]

I've been getting it for over a half-hour. Rayman, you should upload this to FileFront.

[Rayman1103]

The download works for me. Maybe try again. I re-updated the file to fix the issue I found with Karma Jockeys Fully Charged Mutation. I forgot to fully program it in.

[Zakan Mikhael]

This is what I was hoping that valve would do in an official capacity in my other thread (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1386603). I'm really glad that you did this!!!

[Rayman1103]

This is what I was hoping that valve would do in an official capacity in my other thread (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1386603). I'm really glad that you did this!!!

Thanks. Hope you have fun.

[ryancee7]

IS pitch Black supposed to be just you alone, I think a version with fellow teammates would be kick-♥♥♥. Since it is really cool how you can only see like 2 feet, I can never spot a hunter in his black hoodie, it's terrifying. I can hear him though haha.

[TheDreadCthulhu]

Had a nice game of Spitters!, it was pretty exciting.

One problem though; other SI spawned. I think I saw everything apart from Boomers at one point or another. Not in the same numbers as Spitters, and mostly towards the end of maps.

Dunno if you can fix it or if that's Karma Jockey's deal.

[JMantis]

Thanks a lot Rayman! Keep up the good work!

[Rayman1103]

Had a nice game of Spitters!, it was pretty exciting.

One problem though; other SI spawned. I think I saw everything apart from Boomers at one point or another. Not in the same numbers as Spitters, and mostly towards the end of maps.

Dunno if you can fix it or if that's Karma Jockey's deal.

Karma Jockey said some maps are scripted to have other SI, and it can't be avoided.

Thanks a lot Rayman! Keep up the good work!

No problem. I'll continue updating my mod every Friday.

[Masterblaster73]

Wow, this is great. You need to shorten the descriptions though. We know they are Mutations by the icon. Maybe just call them Scavenge, Coop, Singleplayer, etc. Looks too cluttered right now.

[Euclix]

Not sure if you are aware of this but you seem to be missing the Iron man mutation. Not the greatest mutation but I did like how there were no ammo piles.

[bekeleven]

Wow. one man army is the most impossible mutation ever. I beat hard rain 2 in lone gunman after the tank spawned outside the elevator down 4 times in a row. I can't even beat the first level of dead center in this. If a spitter spawns in the entry hall, you die. The one time one didn't, I made it to the safe room B+W with 99 health and a hunter spawned inside it.

Edit:
- Madness finales never trigger. The horde just keeps coming, the campaign hangs when it can't spawn the tank.
- is "Spitters" supposed to spawn 3+ incap SI at once? I sort of assumed it would spawn 0.
- Since we can choose friends-only or otherwise in server setup, I don't think you need separate icons for them in the multiplayer modes.

Other than that, excellent work as I see it!

[Karma Jockey]

To anyone who has played "Pitch Black" does it work as its suppost to? Does the skybox show? Is it really dark?

[Lildaani]

@Karma Jockey, I only played it for a few minutes on Dark Carnival 1, but yes the skybox showed and it was really dark. I actually got scared when the first wave of hunters spawned!

@Rayman I have to agree with the people saying that there should not be separate icons for online and friends games since you can switch it in lobby. Just default it to online and let people change it. Otherwise, this is excellent, thanks so much for putting it together!

[dani1341]

Today i played a little with my blog edit and i made custom colors for it :)

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6992/customblog.jpg

[nico57300]

To anyone who has played "Pitch Black" does it work as its suppost to? Does the skybox show? Is it really dark?

I played it on the Sacrifice, and I don't know if it is supposed to be like that, It's kinda weird (here's a screenshot http://nsa19.casimages.com/img/2010/10/30/101030011511927802.jpg)

Else, I have two major bugs since I put this mod,
I don't hear the sounds of the weapons and the jockey don't walk anymore, they just slip on the floor lol

Except that, your mod is just awesome, a big thanks ;)

Edit : In "Spitters!" mutation, in the map of dark carnival (I don't know if it's the same in the others campaigns) in the rollercoaster and the concert, tanks, hunters and smoker spawns, and it's a bit hard x)

[masterdesaster]

is that possible, that the stats doesnt rising?
i played for a few hours the "Spitter" Mutation and killed this things with my pistols, but my pistol kills doesnt rising?!

otherwise, really great mod.

[Haloman319]

cant find anyone playing this mod online or with friends...yet...



Perfect mod btw!! THANKS!

[Rayman1103]

[QUOTE=Lildaani;@Rayman I have to agree with the people saying that there should not be separate icons for online and friends games since you can switch it in lobby. Just default it to online and let people change it. Otherwise, this is excellent, thanks so much for putting it together![/QUOTE]

No problem. I'll probably remove the friends only icons. At the time I didn't know you could change it in the lobby. I know it'll free up some space, look for the changes in next Friday's update.

Thank you all for your comments.

[Rayman1103]

I've noticed a problem: If you play Single Player Realism, what ever mode you play after that will still have no crosshair. Even if you quiet the game and restart Steam. Karma Jockey you need to fix this, because now I'm stuck without crosshairs.

[Stagger Lee]

I've been watching this with keen interest and plan on getting it. You have been putting in some tremendous time on this project as well as taking suggestions from others. I am only waiting until all the small bugs are worked out before I give it a go.

+ rep to you Sir!

[Rayman1103]

I've been watching this with keen interest and plan on getting it. You have been putting in some tremendous time on this project as well as taking suggestions from others. I am only waiting until all the small bugs are worked out before I give it a go.

+ rep to you Sir!

Thanks for the comments and for the rep. I'm working on fixing the issues, if Karma Jockey can't fix Single Player Realism, I'll remove it.

[Odyssey1319]

Wow. one man army is the most impossible mutation ever.

Play Expert Special Delivery on Dead Air. Even with three other people, it took me three hours to beat.

[dani1341]

I've noticed a problem: If you play Single Player Realism, what ever mode you play after that will still have no crosshair. Even if you quiet the game and restart Steam. Karma Jockey you need to fix this, because now I'm stuck without crosshairs.

remove the crosshair 0 -.- or make it crosshair 1 ....

[Rayman1103]

remove the crosshair 0 -.- or make it crosshair 1 ....

I tried both, and tried removing my mod. Still the same way. It must be saved in a file somewhere.

[dani1341]

I tried both, and tried removing my mod. Still the same way. It must be saved in a file somewhere.

lol ? you didnt got me right ? crosshair 1/0 is a client command like cl_viewmodelfovsurvivor 51/71 even if you restart it saves it self -.- you better remove that command

[Rayman1103]

lol ? you didnt got me right ? crosshair 1/0 is a client command like cl_viewmodelfovsurvivor 51/71 even if you restart it saves it self -.- you better remove that command

I figured that out... Thanks. I've removed the crosshair command from Karma Jockeys Mutation. I'll update the VPK on Friday like normal.

[Euclix]

I have a problem that carried over as well. I played versus coop and now anytime I play campaign and can choose to play infected. If I do so of course the game crashes. Not really a problem but a little annoying.

[Kuziz]

Can you write updated descriptions of new mutations when ya' have time? :)

[Rayman1103]

Can you write updated descriptions of new mutations when ya' have time? :)

Sure I'll update the descriptions soon. Should be up by tomorrow.

[crash2004]

I have a problem that carried over as well. I played versus coop and now anytime I play campaign and can choose to play infected. If I do so of course the game crashes. Not really a problem but a little annoying.

I saw that too but in my case, if I selected infected, it just loaded me in as Nick. It didn't crash for me.

[Rayman1103]

I saw that too but in my case, if I selected infected, it just loaded me in as Nick. It didn't crash for me.

That's the way it's suppose to work. I wouldn't have done it if you could play Infected in other modes.

[crash2004]

That's the way it's suppose to work. I wouldn't have done it if you could play Infected in other modes.

Kind of figured that. I was just a little confused why it would just load me in as Nick but crash for him.

[ryancee7]

A bit off topic but I hate when the game gives me Nick because he's chosen as default like when you use map [map name] command etc... It should give you your most used character.

But anyway, I noticed this but it doesn't bother me at all lol. This being the random infected choice in lobby. It would be funny if people joined the lobby and saw you as infected hahahaha.

[Krandel]

A bit off topic but I hate when the game gives me Nick because he's chosen as default like when you use map [map name] command etc... It should give you your most used character.

But anyway, I noticed this but it doesn't bother me at all lol. This being the random infected choice in lobby. It would be funny if people joined the lobby and saw you as infected hahahaha.

I think that there's a command to switch to Coach, Ellis, or Rochelle,but I can't remember what it was.

[ryancee7]

I think that there's a command to switch to Coach, Ellis, or Rochelle,but I can't remember what it was.

Yeah I know, I got "sb_takecontrol Ellis" binded. But it would be neat for when you Join a game with say Ellis available and it gives you like Coach for example, the game should know I use Coach 1% of all games haha.

[Rayman1103]

A bit off topic but I hate when the game gives me Nick because he's chosen as default like when you use map [map name] command etc... It should give you your most used character.

But anyway, I noticed this but it doesn't bother me at all lol. This being the random infected choice in lobby. It would be funny if people joined the lobby and saw you as infected hahahaha.

I think there's a trick. I don't know for sure, but I think it's something like this. Pick a lobby > Pick your character > Then enter the map commands > Then when it loads you should be playing as the character you've choosen. Hope this helps.

Also descriptions shouls be up in a little while.

[Thingy Person]

Wow, I didn't notice this mod before.

By the way, one thing you could do for your "hidden maps" mod is add support for Room For One to No Mercy.

Actually, all of the modded mission files lack Room for One support. Here are the parts that are missing;

Campaign2.txt:
"mutation10"
{
"1"
{
"Map" "c2m5_concert"
"DisplayName" "#L4D360UI_LevelName_SURVIVAL_C2M5"
"Image" "maps/c2m5_concert"
}
}

Campaign3.txt:
"mutation10"
{
"1"
{
"Map" "c3m4_plantation"
"DisplayName" "#L4D360UI_LevelName_SURVIVAL_C3M4"
"Image" "maps/c3m4_plantation"
}
}

Campaign4.txt:
"mutation10"
{
"1"
{
"Map" "c4m5_milltown_escape"
"DisplayName" "#L4D360UI_LevelName_SURVIVAL_C4M1"
"Image" "maps/c4m5_milltown_escape"
}
}

Campaign5.txt:
"mutation10"
{
"1"
{
"Map" "c5m5_bridge"
"DisplayName" "#L4D360UI_LevelName_SURVIVAL_C5M5"
"Image" "maps/c5m5_bridge"
"x360ctx" "33"
}
}

And this is what I think would work for No Mercy.
Campaign8.txt:
"mutation10"
{
"1"
{
"Map" "c8m5_rooftop"
"DisplayName" "#L4D360UI_LevelName_SURVIVAL_C8M5"
"Image" "maps/l4d_hospital05_rooftop"
}
}

[Zippy]

Versus co-op is the only one I care about.

[Rayman1103]

Wow, I didn't notice this mod before.

By the way, one thing you could do for your "hidden maps" mod is add support for Room For One to No Mercy.

Actually, all of the modded mission files lack Room for One support. Here are the parts that are missing;

Campaign2.txt:
"mutation10"
{
"1"
{
"Map" "c2m5_concert"
"DisplayName" "#L4D360UI_LevelName_SURVIVAL_C2M5"
"Image" "maps/c2m5_concert"
}
}

Campaign3.txt:
"mutation10"
{
"1"
{
"Map" "c3m4_plantation"
"DisplayName" "#L4D360UI_LevelName_SURVIVAL_C3M4"
"Image" "maps/c3m4_plantation"
}
}

Campaign4.txt:
"mutation10"
{
"1"
{
"Map" "c4m5_milltown_escape"
"DisplayName" "#L4D360UI_LevelName_SURVIVAL_C4M1"
"Image" "maps/c4m5_milltown_escape"
}
}

Campaign5.txt:
"mutation10"
{
"1"
{
"Map" "c5m5_bridge"
"DisplayName" "#L4D360UI_LevelName_SURVIVAL_C5M5"
"Image" "maps/c5m5_bridge"
"x360ctx" "33"
}
}

And this is what I think would work for No Mercy.
Campaign8.txt:
"mutation10"
{
"1"
{
"Map" "c8m5_rooftop"
"DisplayName" "#L4D360UI_LevelName_SURVIVAL_C8M5"
"Image" "maps/l4d_hospital05_rooftop"
}
}

Thanks I'll see what I can do. Also thanks to a previous poster, I've included the Iron Man Mutation. Look for any changes on Friday's update.

[ryancee7]

Versus co-op is the only one I care about.

It record these stats online, same with Scavange Co-OP and Survival modes. I played 27 minutes of HORDES and it recorded it in the stats.

But yeah I like Versus Co-Op except when the bots decide to teleport around a panic event. Ah well I still won since a human SI is smarter :P

[Rayman1103]

Okay I've added Room For One support to every Campaign including The Sacrifice and No Mercy.

[Thingy Person]

Okay I've added Room For One support to every Campaign including The Sacrifice and No Mercy.

Yeah, well, The Sacrifice doesn't work too well with it; I've tried, and it randomly selects one of the survivors on the bridge as being the first one out.

It's still better than having each chapter selectable though =P

[Rayman1103]

Yeah, well, The Sacrifice doesn't work too well with it; I've tried, and it randomly selects one of the survivors on the bridge as being the first one out.

It's still better than having each chapter selectable though =P

Yeah I noticed that. But at least it's better than having each Campaign selectable like you said.

[Curs3d]

I've seen to found a bug in "Pitch Black." I'm guessing that after being incap'd by the hunter, you will be black and white upon getting up (much like "Last Man on Earth"). However, it seems like there's no limit to how many times I can get incap'd by a hunter's pounce, even on expert difficulty. But getting incap by any other method, such as hunter swipes or fire, will then, and only then, restarts you back at the safe room.

Hope it can get fixed soon, 'cause it's a pretty awesome custom mutation! Keep up the great work, by the way, Rayman! :)

[shunzero]

Hi

Will you translate it to others languages?

Thanks :)

[Rayman1103]

I've seen to found a bug in "Pitch Black." I'm guessing that after being incap'd by the hunter, you will be black and white upon getting up (much like "Last Man on Earth"). However, it seems like there's no limit to how many times I can get incap'd by a hunter's pounce, even on expert difficulty. But getting incap by any other method, such as hunter swipes or fire, will then, and only then, restarts you back at the safe room.

Hope it can get fixed soon, 'cause it's a pretty awesome custom mutation! Keep up the great work, by the way, Rayman! :)

Thanks.. I'll let Karma Jockey know. He will be updating this Mutation so it might get fixed anyway.

Hi

Will you translate it to others languages?

Thanks :)

I'll see if I can do that. Otherwise I may need some help.

[Karma Jockey]

I've seen to found a bug in "Pitch Black." I'm guessing that after being incap'd by the hunter, you will be black and white upon getting up (much like "Last Man on Earth"). However, it seems like there's no limit to how many times I can get incap'd by a hunter's pounce, even on expert difficulty. But getting incap by any other method, such as hunter swipes or fire, will then, and only then, restarts you back at the safe room.

Hope it can get fixed soon, 'cause it's a pretty awesome custom mutation! Keep up the great work, by the way, Rayman! :)

Iam using a script from Last Man on Earth, which only revives you when you're incapped by SI. It was a problem with LMOE when it was out as well.

[JMantis]

I had a suggestion for the Versus COOP mode.

I played it with a few friends last night and we had a great time practicing some tactics. One additional feature that would be really great though (I've already seen it on a few modded servers once) was the ability to change infected type by using the right mouse button while in ghost mode.

[Rayman1103]

Upcoming custom Mutation "Infestation". Only Hunters spawn, they can't pounce you, and there's 20 of them at once. Thanks to PsyErotica for the idea.

[PsyErotica]

Upcoming custom Mutation "Infestation". Only Hunters spawn, they can't pounce you, and there's 20 of them at once. Thanks to PsyErotica for the idea.

Thanks man for helping make it, testing was crazy fun. Definately a challenge for the hardcore player, it's pandemonium! Great mod you got here man, keep it up Ray.

[Okami Amaterasu]

I have an idea for a Survival map. In Dead Center, after the elevator, in the fire rooms. Have the end blocked off so you have to stay in the flaming parts and have the survivors start in the elevator when the elevator is going down. Put the items either in the elevator (unless they'll float away when it's going down) or right outside of it.

[Rayman1103]

Tomorrow I will be updating my mod. The changes will include the following.

Removed the Friends Only games from the menus.
Added Infestation to the game.
Added Iron Man.
Some other changes.

Look for it after Valve's Mutation update.

[Odyssey1319]

Since we still have a day before you update the mod, could you please adjust the bot CVARs in Versus Co-op so they can't teleport? It's ruined some of my death pulls.

[Gr3gor]

Unless there already is a version of this...

I always thought Realism Versus would be more balanced and true to itself if the SI players couldn't see the outlines of the survivors just as the survivor's can't see their teammates' outlines.

[PsyErotica]

Unless there already is a version of this...

I always thought Realism Versus would be more balanced and true to itself if the SI players couldn't see the outlines of the survivors just as the survivor's can't see their teammates' outlines.

It wouldn't be more balanced, the survivors are still OP in realism. If you add that then SI would stand no chance. I mean the SI count on ambushing the survivors, if you can't see exactly when they come around a corner for your attack then you're screwed. To be honest it might sound good on paper, but I don't think it would play well.

[hegele]

the thing i like about the weekly mutation is that you are more likely to find three people to play with only one a week. If all of them were available it would be near impossible to find players.

[Euclix]

the thing i like about the weekly mutation is that you are more likely to find three people to play with only one a week. If all of them were available it would be near impossible to find players.

I've had a few random people join my mutation games. But for the most part, this mod is for playing with friends. You just aren't going to see enough people download it for it to there to be any significant amount of people playing these mutations.

And of course the upside is that the player base is not divided. If valve were to release all mutations, you would probably see some significant division of the player base(something like 5-10 percent, maybe less). Because of this, I think what rayman has done here is the best solution for people wanting to play all mutations. You can play with randoms or friends but it doesn't divide the players base.

[shinyminidrake]

How do you start these? I don't see any new options in the main menu to trigger it.

[Rayman1103]

How do you start these? I don't see any new options in the main menu to trigger it.

Did you put the VPK's in your addons folder? Don't put the ZIP folder in there.

Also are you a Mac user? Everything should be working for you if you're a PC user, that's why I want to know if you have a Mac.

[PsyErotica]

Cool new version is out, gonna hit me up some Infestation ha! :P

[Rayman1103]

I've updated my mod! The changes include the following.

Added my Infestation Mutation.
Added Valve's Iron Man Mutation.
Changed the main-menu so it now only has one of each Mutations lists, instead of two.
Made changes to Boomer Shooter, decreased the Boomers health and speed.
Made changes to Common Problem, should be less laggy but still tough enough.
Made changes to Versus CO-OP, now the Survivor bots can't teleport.
Updated the hidden maps VPK, Room For One support for all maps.

I think that's all the changes... Have fun!

[jasminethecat]

Can you make it so the game actually will start? that would be a cool mod.

[Rayman1103]

Can you make it so the game actually will start? that would be a cool mod.

Yeah I know... Valve knows the problem and are looking into it.

[Rayman1103]

Valve fixed the problem you can now play again.

[Bayonet]

I never got a chance to play co-op versus. Will this work with just me playing?

[Odyssey1319]

I never got a chance to play co-op versus. Will this work with just me playing?

Yes. If you make it online, I may join you in a moment.

[Masterblaster73]

I really like this but the menu system is way too busy.
Why not list all your mutations in the pull down under the single "Mutations" icon? Or maybe listed under a couple of Icons. Right now there are too many icons.

[Curs3d]

I've updated my mod! The changes include the following.
[snip]
Made changes to Versus CO-OP, now the Survivor bots can't teleport.
Updated the hidden maps VPK, Room For One support for all maps.

I think that's all the changes... Have fun!

Removing the bots' ability to teleport may have hampered their survivability by a bit. Prior to the change, they were able to teleport to a downed survivor when their pathing is screwy. This may be "unfair" but you should factor in the fact that they're only bots, and giving a slight advantage might make it a bit more challenging.

As a matter of fact, without their ability to teleport, it can also be a show-stopper. Earlier, in the first stage of Dark Carnival, Ellis bot got stuck on top of a car, and ended up holding the whole team up. He wouldn't move until I jockeyed him, causing his team rushing to his rescue.

Overall, I think the bots' ability to teleport is a good compensation to their lack of human brain-power and, can sometimes, fix a show-stopping bug.

Good work, still, by the way, Rayman. :D

I really like this but the menu system is way too busy.
Why not list all your mutations in the pull down under the single "Mutations" icon? Or maybe listed under a couple of Icons. Right now there are too many icons.

The main reason that the menu the way it is now is because it is categorized by play mode. Listing it under one big list might make the main menu look tidier, but it will be harder to tell, for example, which mutations are for co-op play and which are for versus-style.

[h31s]

so do this works on xbox?????
LOLJK
I think I'll try this...

[Rayman1103]

Next Friday I'll re-update Versus CO-OP and re-enable the Survivor bots to teleport. Some people wanted them not to teleport, but it isn't very good. Thanks for pointing that out Curs3d.

[PlexusDeath]

Thanks for this, nice to be able to play some of the better mutations again and some of the custom ones are great fun too.

I'd been going to comment on being unable to connect to a steamgroup server (had to use official instead) but todays update/menu change seems to have sorted this issue. :D

Looking forward to more updates :cool:

[ryancee7]

I only mentioned it wasn't fair cause they teleported on me many times past panic events making them pretty much unstoppable sometimes.

You could have sb_unstick 0 in this if Valve ever fixed their pathing. They get hung up on the stupidest things.

[PsyErotica]

Yes I agree Ray, need them to teleport fer sure. Just went with some friends vs the computer and the bots got stuck under a walkway of swamp fever 3, had to down them all right there cuz they didn't move, even pulling didn't budge them. But yeah great mod keep it up.

[Chaosplayer]

I am having an issue I can select the mutation example Versus coop but I can't figure out how to host a local server with that mutation or online even.

[ryancee7]

Yes I agree Ray, need them to teleport fer sure. Just went with some friends vs the computer and the bots got stuck under a walkway of swamp fever 3, had to down them all right there cuz they didn't move, even pulling didn't budge them. But yeah great mod keep it up.

Yeah they have a huge list of pathing issues.

So basically you need them to teleport. It can be unfair at times but it's gamebreaking if not.

Also it's sad they have so many issues...

-Dead Center: they get stuck at the Cola
-Dead Center: their pathing is messed with the alarm run.
-Dead Center: Finale they will not do.
-The Passing: Finale they won't do.
-Dark Carnival: They will not turn on the lights unless you can get them to the button.
-Swamp Fever: They won't start that finale, they just hang out at the house.
-Swamp Fever: They can get stuck under the dock, sometimes they won't teleport.
-Hard Rain: Noticed no issues.
-The Parish: AT the float they get stuck at a fake door. Not sure if they teleport past that one.

Sadly you can only do about 2 campaigns maybe fully with all bots.

Maybe if their button range was turned way up lol.

[Curs3d]

I am having an issue I can select the mutation example Versus coop but I can't figure out how to host a local server with that mutation or online even.

If you can select the mutation, what seems to be the problem then? :confused: It's probably worth noting that with this add-on, customized mutations must be played on a local server or a dedicated server which has this add-on installed also. In addition, if you friends want to join you in a customized mutation game, they will also need the add-on installed, too. Fortunately, official mutations that were previously released by Valve should work on official servers (even ones hosted by Valve) and your friends won't need to install the add-on to join the lobby or game.

Yeah they have a huge list of pathing issues.
[snip]

Maybe if their button range was turned way up lol.

I think the bots were designed to not hit the button which starts the finale under any condition. To them, it's like some forbidden button that shouldn't be touched. The only other time that I've seen this aside from finale is Dark Carnival roller coaster event. Luckily, a quick fix to this is just to switch team, hit it for them, and then switch back.

[PsyErotica]

Luckily, a quick fix to this is just to switch team, hit it for them, and then switch back.

Exactly, couldn't have put it better. Even scavenge finales can be finished, only catch is you have to finish them both playing as survivors, but still can be done.

[Rayman1103]

Hello everyone I've created a Mutation Mod group with the help of Haloman319. Please join the group here, and invite your friends. (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Rayman1103_Group)

[ryancee7]

No they hit finale buttons, it's just they won't go near the lights button as it's so far away. Instead they hang out at the other button under the tent.

When I played with cheats I use warp_all_survivors_here to get them to hit that button.

Also Infestation is brutal, damn hunters always get a claw or two in, even when stumbling. Valve gotta do something about the Charger and Hunter hitting you while stumbling.

[SHOOTAN_GAEMS]

I use this mod on my server, and have been encountering a weird bug. Sporadically, but increasing in frequency recently, we've been finding that when playing on the server in ANY mode (even standard campaign/vs, not using mutations whatsoever, and in official mutations too), survivors "bleed" health will NOT decrease automatically.

This means that downed and revived survivors, and those who have taken pills/adren, will not have the "bleeding out" effect.

Since the bug occurs only sporadically, we've only done quite basic testing with it, but have found that removing your plugin from the server fixes the issue. I am not sure if this is a problem with the plugin "at its core" or a result of a conflict with one of the following plugins, which the server also runs:

1. L4D2 Pause
2. Snarespeak
3. Black & White Notifications
4. Survivor Unstick
5. Jockey Jump

The server is a Gameservers server hosted in New York, running linux.

[AngryJarateMan]

What is the command for a versus CO-OP game?

[Rayman1103]

I use this mod on my server, and have been encountering a weird bug. Sporadically, but increasing in frequency recently, we've been finding that when playing on the server in ANY mode (even standard campaign/vs, not using mutations whatsoever, and in official mutations too), survivors "bleed" health will NOT decrease automatically.

This means that downed and revived survivors, and those who have taken pills/adren, will not have the "bleeding out" effect.

Since the bug occurs only sporadically, we've only done quite basic testing with it, but have found that removing your plugin from the server fixes the issue. I am not sure if this is a problem with the plugin "at its core" or a result of a conflict with one of the following plugins, which the server also runs:

1. L4D2 Pause
2. Snarespeak
3. Black & White Notifications
4. Survivor Unstick
5. Jockey Jump

The server is a Gameservers server hosted in New York, running linux.

I haven't experianced any problems with my Mutation Mod. It might be because of your other plugins?


What is the command for a versus CO-OP game?

It's "versuscoop", without the quotations of course.

[Chaosplayer]

If you can select the mutation, what seems to be the problem then? :confused: It's probably worth noting that with this add-on, customized mutations must be played on a local server or a dedicated server which has this add-on installed also. In addition, if you friends want to join you in a customized mutation game, they will also need the add-on installed, too. Fortunately, official mutations that were previously released by Valve should work on official servers (even ones hosted by Valve) and your friends won't need to install the add-on to join the lobby or game.

yea install error

[Rayman1103]

I'll include 2 of KJ's newest Mutations in my next update. Crowd Control and Silent But Deadly.

[christantoan]

@ Rayman1103

Can you add command console for all mutations to the first page
I like console commands better than selecting from menu
& please include a readme and command to the zip file

Thanks

[Rayman1103]

@ Rayman1103

Can you add command console for all mutations to the first page
I like console commands better than selecting from menu
& please include a readme and command to the zip file

Thanks

Sure thing, I'll post them soon.

[navossoc]

One bug...

Survival versus, if you don't "push" the button, the wave starts, but the clock stay at 00:00:00.

[]'s

[Rayman1103]

I've added the console commands for the Mutations on my first post.

[Mr. Fruit]

How do install those .vpk files? I drag them to addons folder, and that's it?
+If this works how I except, you are awesome

[Rayman1103]

How do install those .vpk files? I drag them to addons folder, and that's it?
+If this works how I except, you are awesome

Yeah you place them in your addons folder... and that's it. Then you play L4D2 like normal.

Maybe with rep? Have fun!

[Mr. Fruit]

Rayman1103, you are ♥♥♥♥in awesome! And you are updating this every week? I love you!!
Can I spread this to other forums, of course giving all reputation to you?

[ryancee7]

One bug...

Survival versus, if you don't "push" the button, the wave starts, but the clock stay at 00:00:00.

[]'s

This is the way Valve has made it.

=================

Also Silent but deadly sounds SWEET!

[Rayman1103]

Rayman1103, you are ♥♥♥♥in awesome! And you are updating this every week? I love you!!
Can I spread this to other forums, of course giving all reputation to you?

Yes I'm updating this every week. Go ahead and spread the word to other forums. The more people that know, the better.

[Odyssey1319]

Is Crowd Control like Four Swordsmen, only with riot shields?

[Rayman1103]

Is Crowd Control like Four Swordsmen, only with riot shields?

No it's not. It's with Shotguns.

[Odyssey1319]

No it's not. It's with Shotguns.

Oh. I was hoping it was the former. For an unused weapon, the riot shield is pretty fantastic.

[081XxhephexX180]

can you use this if you don't have The passing?

[Rayman1103]

can you use this if you don't have The passing?

No you have to have The Passing installed. Since it auto-updates, everyone should have it.

[guitarfreak8900]

This is great stuff, works well! only problem is finding people online lol add me if you want to try some out!

[guitarfreak8900]

There is one bug ive found though, in madness on hard rain the finale is neverending

[The4THSurvivor]

This is sweet as hell! Hopefully Valve won't remove this don't see why they would. Anyway thanks for this! :)

[PlexusDeath]

Is it possible for you to enable a more detailed lobby configuration for creating games?

Currently, when i go through the menu i end up creating a public lobby set to Official Dedicated server. I'd like to be able to specify Friends only and Steamgroup Server before creating it.

It's not a huge issue, but definately something i'd like to see if it can be done :)

[ryancee7]

Is it possible for you to enable a more detailed lobby configuration for creating games?

Currently, when i go through the menu i end up creating a public lobby set to Official Dedicated server. I'd like to be able to specify Friends only and Steamgroup Server before creating it.

It's not a huge issue, but definately something i'd like to see if it can be done :)

I think Valve would have to do this maybe? Cuz' when you do that in normal mode thats how it sets up. Unless Rayman can do that :confused:

[PlexusDeath]

Ah, i see that now, i'm used to automatically picking the Play with Friends option.

The last version of the mod had something similar but it made the menus alot more messy, it definitely looks better as it is now so if there isn't another way to do it then it's probably best left as is. :(

[ryancee7]

Ok one thing thats really starting to piss me off with versus COOP, is the damn bots Spitters and Boomers, I get an epic Jockey goin and stupid Spitter/Boomer comes up, claws me riding a survivor and instant kills me. I'm gonna purposely Grief my bot team!

I thought I'd share that, it's driving me insane!

[jim67]

finally i play gib-fest When i want to paly :P Thanks for that

[shermalerm]

This really is fantastic. Recommend to anyone. 5 star, +rep

[Rayman1103]

Thanks to everyone for the great comments. I hope you stick around for the weekly updates.

PlexusDeath, as for the Friends menus etc, I will not make Friends menus again like I have in the past. Sorry but it'll stay the way it is.

Don't forget to join my Mutation Mod group!

[PlexusDeath]

Yeah, that's fair enough, it does look alot better as it is currently. Just need to be quick setting permissions as the mod gets more popular :D