auto update lowered bazooka damage.

[Blindeyes]

I was playing front mission evolved today online and the game did an auto update. I did some looking around and noticed they had lowered the damage bazookas do.Why do that because of some whiny babies. Why didn't they lower the damage guided missiles do.
They do lots of damage and I've seen people using 2 of the 6 shot missile launchers, that you don't even have to aim.just hold your fingers down for 1 second and let go. Atleast with bazookas and other weapons you have to learn how to lead the target.
i paid $50 for this game I own it, They shouldn't have the right to change content of the game when they see fit.
While they are at it why don't they lower the damage of grenades and everything else.i paid for my game just as all the little babies did who got the damage changed. I will not buy another Square enix product again.

[Towik]

It will be around a month before the game will be balanced , but i mean real balance about dmg , acc , etc . I am annoyed too about a dude with 2x gatling and armed weapons shooting at once , when that is not possible .

I dunno why lower missiles they did emo damage anyway ...
Grenades are pain in the ♥♥♥ , that's all i will say

and you don't hold for a sec . play with all the weapons before you say stupid things

[Jags]

Maybe there's hope for this game after all.

[TimedParadox]

Maybe there's hope for this game after all.

The game is dead. It flopped hard and you will stop playing a couple of months after it's supposedly "fixed".

[Blindeyes]

Actually Towick I have played with all the weapons you dumb#@$ that's why I know You only have to hold the lock on missiles for a second as I have used the skilless missile weapons.You use the weapons before you open your dumb@#$ mouth. Like you said yourself you don't know, it shows.Dumb #$@. Don't talk it only shows your stupidity level.

[Towik]

Grow up boy , you are saying to lock on every missile you need only one second . Nice nice , good good . At least spell my nick correctly . In talking bull♥♥♥♥s you are the best

[underwatercooki]

lol @ bazooka damage nerf
Was that even warranted? Going from 500-600 down to 200? Maybe 300 would be fine but 200? You're screwed. Don't ever use bazookas again. They have now entered the melee weapon category of useless and only as a joke.

Alright, so now bazookas are worthless. Now people are just going to swap over to sniper rifles instead and put their fire and zoom shot button all on one mouse button so they can quick snipe just by pressing one button. xD

[Towik]

were you see bazooka nerf , huh , maybe on paper but in reality , were i tested 750-900 dmg it has . what a bull♥♥♥♥ this game is more and more bullcrap

[Blindeyes]

Wow Towik for a guy who tells me to spell.You use were instead of Where twice I'd shut my mouth about correcting peoples mistakes until I learn from my own. Like your other mistake What a bull this game is. good sentence. Again you prove you know Sh&% the same as you know sh5%$ about what your talking about moron. Save the money you spend on games and use it for a better education. Tool.

[Towik]

Yes , i know , but for me it's different . Maybe one day you will understand it . have fun , playing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game .

Oh and i was talking about spelling of a nick/name , but you dint saw that . Anyway maybe i became an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or even worse ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ then you :) after so much ôýJD4$8°38•1♥

edit 2 :
sorry but i really don't see any nerf on bazooka .
Best way is a petition in form of a e-mail from all of us to them , cause they don't come here to read anything . At least most of devs , in meaning to games on steam [forum]

[underwatercooki]

Bazooka damage was nerfed to 200 in my game. Don't know about yours and last I checked was last night so I don't know if they changed it back but I'll check tomorrow and post a screenshot.

Last night it downloaded an update and changed bazooka from 500-600 to 150-200 ish and both the banish and grom or gorm or whatever. xD

I can't imagine they'd only change the stat and not the actual damage output. Are you saying they may say 200 but are still doing 600?

[noxchaos]

I can't really confirm, but from my experience, Bazookas have been doing plenty, though they have been less of a two-shot material.

If their damage stat was indeed modified, then right on. To all of you whining about it being useless, this is hardly so. Bazooka still has three major things going for it:

1. Stun
2. Splash
3. Full wanzer damage

Not only can you damage multiple wanzers in a shot, the damage from a direct hit applies equally to all body parts. That's 1000 damage a shot per direct hit. As opposed to 2500+ that it used to be.

Seems balanced to me.

[Redvan]

thank god. all the noobs that cant aim and just splash bazookas around were annoying as hell. At least now they'll have to make better shots to do damage.

[Blindeyes]

Yeah and I suppose you use Missiles like every other noob. Because you have to know how to hold the shoulder button almost as good as aiming. i thought this game sucked A$$ when it came out, I went on tonight and every loser uses missiles. They should just get rid of every weapon and just keep missiles on and it will be a battle of the aimless lock on.
I love it when some loser comes on and makes a dumb a$$ comment on something you do have to aim. Skilless losers go play tetris.

[Redvan]

Yeah and I suppose you use Missiles like every other noob. Because you have to know how to hold the shoulder button almost as good as aiming. i thought this game sucked A$$ when it came out, I went on tonight and every loser uses missiles. They should just get rid of every weapon and just keep missiles on and it will be a battle of the aimless lock on.
I love it when some loser comes on and makes a dumb a$$ comment on something you do have to aim. Skilless losers go play tetris.

ummm... no.

I started with this preset: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Redvan/FrontMissionEvolved2010-10-0714-37-18-91.jpg

and upgraded to this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Redvan/FrontMissionEvolved2010-10-0714-37-10-72.jpg

as soon as I could. And have used that ever since. :rolleyes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Redvan/FrontMissionEvolved2010-10-1211-06-44-54.jpg
Only reason for my missiles at 20% is running some tests with a friend.

nice try, zooka noob ;P.

I totally agree with you about missiles though. They're stupid. I played a lot of MWLL and let me tell you, well, stop by those forums and just ask anyone what I hate, they'll tell you: MISSILE BOATS! I make it well known that I'm against boats. Anything that locks on is just lame.

Sniper = no splash, so you have to actually hit your target every time, and you have to be fast so you can hit quickly moving opponents. Bazooka, well, cant really say the same... if you miss, that's ok, most likely you'll get a bit of splash damage. Less precision required.

Also, no good player is going to get taken out by a bazooka 1v1 on even a semi regular basis. The problem is that everyone and their mom uses the bazooka to spam splash damage everywhere they can, simply because they cant aim. Thus, nerf was good. If you're worried about 1v1, well, you shouldn't be considering the zook in the first place, because like I said, you'll rarely hit a good player.

[noxchaos]

First of all, Blindeyes, missiles and bazookas are different categories of weapons. Bazookas are short-med range weapons, missiles are med-long range weapons. So yeah, missiles counter bazookas. Rifles counter both, incidentally.

Second of all, bazookas are basically longer ranged shotguns that are heavier, but also better in more or less every way. Still. Before, they were just obscene.

Third of all, not only does not everyone use missiles, they are incredibly easy to counter. The only issue I have with them is when they are spammed en masse by the entire enemy team and somebody is smart enough to put siphon warheads on their packs. Otherwise, they are laughable once you learn how to take cover.

For the reference, my preferred builds are AGI/double shottie, and power/shield/shottie/albatross. Neither of those have any trouble at all with missile spammers. Just get in close and learn how to stay close, or learn how to take cover.

[Jason151]

First of all, Blindeyes, missiles and bazookas are different categories of weapons. Bazookas are short-med range weapons, missiles are med-long range weapons. So yeah, missiles counter bazookas. Rifles counter both, incidentally.

Second of all, bazookas are basically longer ranged shotguns that are heavier, but also better in more or less every way. Still. Before, they were just obscene.

Third of all, not only does not everyone use missiles, they are incredibly easy to counter. The only issue I have with them is when they are spammed en masse by the entire enemy team and somebody is smart enough to put siphon warheads on their packs. Otherwise, they are laughable once you learn how to take cover.

For the reference, my preferred builds are AGI/double shottie, and power/shield/shottie/albatross. Neither of those have any trouble at all with missile spammers. Just get in close and learn how to stay close, or learn how to take cover.



dosent matter how good you are if a whole team of missle spammers stay together ur dead and yeah its stupidly annoying when one puts on syphon shot -_-

perferd build is

AGI/Egretx2/Firewall/melee

[Rogen]

Now it seems that most weapons are usable, and i see players, that can use well any tape of weapon, from melee weapons, to bazookas as they are now.

The patch modified the power of bazookas, so they are used only by skilled players, but then they are as deadly as any other weapon used right.

And missiles seems a bit strong, but when you use cover they are really useless. Yes there are places where there is not enough cover, or when most of a team uses them then they are annoying, but even then it could be countered by good team.

To sum it up, the game is now a lot more better, unless you got really odd pairing of teams, then the game is usually quite good.

And I do not have preffered build, as i change it often, as i try to get different weapons skills, but i like repair back, hover legs, rockets, and shotguns or burst machine guns.

[Redvan]

what i really wish we had is the ability to change wanzers mid game. That would help alleviate some of the grievance when up against a team full of spammers (whether zooks or missiles). You could switch to a class better suited to fight against pure spam.

[Jason151]

Rogan you are an idiot NOOBS use zooks they dont need aaaaany skill most of them end up killing them selvs. bazokas are stilleaasy to use stil get easy kills only noobs use them just like only noobs use those stupid twin missile and shiled set ups or the noobs who granade spam with shields
rogan go ltp if u think only skilled people can use bazokas,..

[Rogen]

Rogan you are an idiot NOOBS use zooks they dont need aaaaany skill most of them end up killing them selvs. bazokas are stilleaasy to use stil get easy kills only noobs use them just like only noobs use those stupid twin missile and shiled set ups or the noobs who granade spam with shields
rogan go ltp if u think only skilled people can use bazokas,..

But a noob can't hit me, most of the time, and they are usually quite easy to kill. But there are some players who are actually dangerous with bazooka, but it is rare.

My point is that since the patch, there isn't any weapon that is too strong, any weapon have it's uses. (Or at least any weapon class.)

[Jason151]

well id say the way people use sniper rifles like shotguns is to strong,..
id also say that granade launcher spam is silly op right now as well. missles not so much unless the whole team is useing them and yeah u can dodge bazoka shots easy but there still to easy to use with to much dmg and to fast fireing

[Zenithi]

Jason, I beg to differ with the Bazooka. I can still kill fine with it since it's my support weapon (combo with rockets), but the severe ammo limit and the fact that you have to land direct shots to the enemy wanzer to get any kills requires a bit of skill to pull off. I can still manage a 4 or 5:1 ratio with this, but the only people I have trouble fighting are those grenade spammers.

[gendoikari87]

It will be around a month before the game will be balanced , but i mean real balance about dmg , acc , etc . I am annoyed too about a dude with 2x gatling and armed weapons shooting at once , when that is not possible .

I dunno why lower missiles they did emo damage anyway ...
Grenades are pain in the ♥♥♥ , that's all i will say

and you don't hold for a sec . play with all the weapons before you say stupid things
how is this not possible? you can remap your control settings to have all your weapons on one button.

[c-chan]

how is this not possible? you can remap your control settings to have all your weapons on one button.

2x Vulcan 2x Glaux / 2x Juri 1x Anaconda user here. I like these weapons the most. It's a shame Anaconda weighs so much, I'd love to see 2 of those on my mech :(

[c-chan]

Played a few games today and there seems to be a huge amount of grenade launcher users now with shields.

Welp, they nerfed the zooka. Can't wait for the nadelauncher nerf.

[Redvan]

Played a few games today and there seems to be a huge amount of grenade launcher users now with shields.

Welp, they nerfed the zooka. Can't wait for the nadelauncher nerf.

I'd be down :) Hell, just take out everything with splash all together :)

[c-chan]

I'd be down :) Hell, just take out everything with splash all together :)

Zookas were brought in line nicely with the damage nerf while still having decent aoe.

Grenades however, are ridiculous and need to be brought into line.
As they are, people are just using them as melee-range storming weaponry while using a shield. It's silly.

Rockets and missiles can be evaded easily. Missiles you just get in close or get behind cover. The same does not work against someone who is chasing you with an agi backpack and lobbing grenades with silly aoe.

[Zenithi]

Agreed, you actually have to score a direct hit to do decent damage with the bazooka. Nades, on the other hand... I actually tried the nade lame setup a lot of people have been using, and to be honest while it's effective, it's just not very fun.

[c-chan]

Agreed, you actually have to score a direct hit to do decent damage with the bazooka. Nades, on the other hand... I actually tried the nade lame setup a lot of people have been using, and to be honest while it's effective, it's just not very fun.

Keep in mind though, I've seen many people combine the zooka with nades to make up for the lost damage of the zooka.

I've just gotten bored of grenades by now. It goes like this:

I join a game, there's a 2x grenade launcher + shield guy on my side. Enemies quit the game after some losses to the grenades.

I join another game, there's an enemy with grenade launchers spewing them ♥♥♥♥ing everywhere while gliding ♥♥♥♥ knows where with an agi backpack. This is where I usually quit and it's rare some of my team hasn't quit first.

Yes, I think grenades are frustrating, there's just absolutely nothing I can do about them other than just run away from the player completely, but that's not even a tactic.

[Blindeyes]

c-chan I'm sorry but what the hell are you talking about Missiles and rockets can be evaded easy. You are another missile user aren't you. Bazooka's can be evaded easier than both grenade, rockets, and missiles. -Bazooka is 1 or 2 projectiles. As soon as they leave the launcher they are uncontrollable. grenades can have 2-6 shot projectiles that's 12 total that cover a bigger area than bazooka.
-Missiles can have 16 projectiles 2-8 shots that's 16 homing shots that lock on and follow to dodge rather than 1 or 2 bazooka.
-Rockets, again 2-8 shots so that's 16 projectiles to evade.

Please all you missile users who try to justify the change in damage to bazookas and try to say it's fair over nades, rockets, and missiles stop wasting time and don't talk or make up crap to say it's fair.You guy's only make yourselves look more stupid than you already are, and stop trying to say it's a noob weapon when you are the ones who are noobs.they should take out all the weapons and just leave missiles and nades and let you noobs go at it. that game is so stupid and dead already it's not even funny.
I said it before and I will say it again. I will never buy any Square Enix game again.Your company sucks A%# and you are pretty nervey trying to sell crap as an add-on when you make a suck hole game as you have.

[noxchaos]

c-chan I'm sorry but what the hell are you talking about Missiles and rockets can be evaded easy. You are another missile user aren't you. Bazooka's can be evaded easier than both grenade, rockets, and missiles. -Bazooka is 1 or 2 projectiles. As soon as they leave the launcher they are uncontrollable. grenades can have 2-6 shot projectiles that's 12 total that cover a bigger area than bazooka.
-Missiles can have 16 projectiles 2-8 shots that's 16 homing shots that lock on and follow to dodge rather than 1 or 2 bazooka.
-Rockets, again 2-8 shots so that's 16 projectiles to evade.

Please all you missile users who try to justify the change in damage to bazookas and try to say it's fair over nades, rockets, and missiles stop wasting time and don't talk or make up crap to say it's fair.You guy's only make yourselves look more stupid than you already are, and stop trying to say it's a noob weapon when you are the ones who are noobs.they should take out all the weapons and just leave missiles and nades and let you noobs go at it. that game is so stupid and dead already it's not even funny.
I said it before and I will say it again. I will never buy any Square Enix game again.Your company sucks A%# and you are pretty nervey trying to sell crap as an add-on when you make a suck hole game as you have.

You don't have to aim with bazooka at all. Just shoot in the general direction of the feet if you are as bad as you claim you are.

[c-chan]

You don't have to aim with bazooka at all. Just shoot in the general direction of the feet if you are as bad as you claim you are.

Oh wow. Try and kill Sanajoel / Makuzou / Ben Jonny Hamal / ArLo / Cervantes or any other decent player by doing that. You'll get your ♥♥♥♥ slapped silly so bad you wish you weren't born.

When fighting a good player it comes down to anticipating where your opponent is going to move. I'm actually trying Zook/rocket combo again now since I bought the DLC and it is not easy against good players, almost the contrary.

It's much more easier to land hits with 4 guns(panic shot/2x corrosive and siphon) and just get behind cover once in a while and let your corrosives do it's magic.

Zookas force you to act in a way that makes you much MUCH more vulnerable, especially if you are facing anyone with siphon shot(Which any good player will use, along with panic shot).

I'd not be surprised if the muppets still whining about zookas after the damage nerf are the guys with shields thinking they should be able to take the damage head on.

I'm genuinely interested now, what do you think about the grenadelauncher/shield/Agi BP combo?

Also, what the hell is this moaning still going on about missiles? Get in close and move like a bunny on steroids or get behind cover. It does not get any simpler than that. Anyone who is still complaining about missile boats has not faced anyone decent with nadelaunchers/shield.

[c-chan]

c-chan I'm sorry but what the hell are you talking about Missiles and rockets can be evaded easy. You are another missile user aren't you. Bazooka's can be evaded easier than both grenade, rockets, and missiles. -Bazooka is 1 or 2 projectiles. As soon as they leave the launcher they are uncontrollable. grenades can have 2-6 shot projectiles that's 12 total that cover a bigger area than bazooka.
-Missiles can have 16 projectiles 2-8 shots that's 16 homing shots that lock on and follow to dodge rather than 1 or 2 bazooka.
-Rockets, again 2-8 shots so that's 16 projectiles to evade.

Please all you missile users who try to justify the change in damage to bazookas and try to say it's fair over nades, rockets, and missiles stop wasting time and don't talk or make up crap to say it's fair.You guy's only make yourselves look more stupid than you already are, and stop trying to say it's a noob weapon when you are the ones who are noobs.they should take out all the weapons and just leave missiles and nades and let you noobs go at it. that game is so stupid and dead already it's not even funny.
I said it before and I will say it again. I will never buy any Square Enix game again.Your company sucks A%# and you are pretty nervey trying to sell crap as an add-on when you make a suck hole game as you have.

As much as I appreciate your prejudice I was maining 2x Vulcans and 2x Glauxs before I bought the weapon pack DLC and started a Tour of Duty. Now I'm using 2x rockets and zook and to be honest, the zook damage is still ridiculous, why the ♥♥♥♥ are you still moaning about it?

The only hard thing with it is hitting(A GOOD PLAYER, ANYONE CAN HIT A BRICK WALL BECAUSE IT'S NOT MOVING).

I'm not making "crap up". Missiles and rockets are easy to avoid. If you're talking about getting surrounded by 2-3+ missile users you deserve to die like in any other situation where you are outnumbered.

Do try and avoid taking corrosive shot damage from 2 guns while you're at it. It's so obvious you have not faced good players.

...Bazooka's can be evaded easier than both grenade...

Again, someone hasn't met a good player with 2x Grenade launchers with an AGI BP, using them in turns to lay out continuous fire. Bazooka is indeed easier to evade but I can't believe you're comparing to missiles or rockets.


-Missiles can have 16 projectiles 2-8 shots that's 16 homing shots that lock on and follow to dodge rather than 1 or 2 bazooka.
-Rockets, again 2-8 shots so that's 16 projectiles to evade.


How about you try using those braincells of yours and try thinking how you could avoid these.

Missiles:Slow tracking, get in close and Skate jump over enemy release skate to conserve power for more evading.
-------->TRACKING<------- As you said, they WILL home in on you, when you know this you can use it to your advantage and go behind cover repeatedly while closing range(Or staying out of range if you're sniping).

Rockets: Weaker aoe then both zooka and grenades. Easy to avoid. Only potent if coupled with other weapons like melee/zooka/MGs.

At the end of the day it's a good game. The only thing I'd really want is a 2handed gatling weapon, hell I don't care if it's a 10euro DLC.

EDIT: Was in a game earlier today against 3 guys who had shields and were spamming missiles, we won. A guy called Noble was evading them easily aswell.

But I guess it's just impossible. Since they follow you and stuff. Clearly those missiles have aimbots. Best report them.

[noxchaos]

Oh wow. Try and kill Sanajoel / Makuzou / Ben Jonny Hamal / ArLo / Cervantes or any other decent player by doing that. You'll get your ♥♥♥♥ slapped silly so bad you wish you weren't born.

When fighting a good player it comes down to anticipating where your opponent is going to move. I'm actually trying Zook/rocket combo again now since I bought the DLC and it is not easy against good players, almost the contrary.

It's much more easier to land hits with 4 guns(panic shot/2x corrosive and siphon) and just get behind cover once in a while and let your corrosives do it's magic.

Zookas force you to act in a way that makes you much MUCH more vulnerable, especially if you are facing anyone with siphon shot(Which any good player will use, along with panic shot).

I'd not be surprised if the muppets still whining about zookas after the damage nerf are the guys with shields thinking they should be able to take the damage head on.

I'm genuinely interested now, what do you think about the grenadelauncher/shield/Agi BP combo?

Also, what the hell is this moaning still going on about missiles? Get in close and move like a bunny on steroids or get behind cover. It does not get any simpler than that. Anyone who is still complaining about missile boats has not faced anyone decent with nadelaunchers/shield.

Try doing it with 2 rocket launchers, then come back and whine to me.

GL/shield/AGI combo? I don't have a lot of problem with it. When running my agi/SG combo, I get in close and tear them apart, moving as they lay down fire. When running my sniper combo, well. Nothing does a whole lot of good against Ricochet sniper shot.

Bazookas still deal more damage than any of those systems on a direct hit, and they stun. How sad indeed.

[c-chan]

Try doing it with 2 rocket launchers, then come back and whine to me.

GL/shield/AGI combo? I don't have a lot of problem with it. When running my agi/SG combo, I get in close and tear them apart, moving as they lay down fire. When running my sniper combo, well. Nothing does a whole lot of good against Ricochet sniper shot.

Bazookas still deal more damage than any of those systems on a direct hit, and they stun. How sad indeed.

I am using 2 rocket launchers and a zooka. I don't know what kind of math you're doing if you claim a zooka does more damage then a grenade launcher, go and see the numbers again mate.

To not deteriorate this into just a whining argument, out of pure interest, do you use any other weapons with your shotguns?

I used to roll with just 2 shotguns and I did quite fine considering I had no shoulder weapons to speak of(Ofcourse I complimented for that with heavier torso.)

Also, to my experience GL/Shield combo works best in close ranges since your enemy will not have time to evade because the distance for the grenades to explode is so short.

Still, I think 2x vulcans 2x glauxs has been the most fun setup to play, along with shotguns.

[Zenithi]

My personal setups are dual SG + 2 donkeys, and a bazooka with dual egrets. I found these "up-close-and-personal" setups wayyyyy funner to play than missile/nade spamming.

Since COD BO came out, I think I might be "migrating" over to that game instead of this =/ It's a shame really; Double Helix had this ONE CHANCE to get to work on such a good title, and they somehow screwed it up. Makes me question the competency of the folks over at this ♥♥♥♥ty developer.

[noxchaos]

I am using 2 rocket launchers and a zooka. I don't know what kind of math you're doing if you claim a zooka does more damage then a grenade launcher, go and see the numbers again mate.

To not deteriorate this into just a whining argument, out of pure interest, do you use any other weapons with your shotguns?

I used to roll with just 2 shotguns and I did quite fine considering I had no shoulder weapons to speak of(Ofcourse I complimented for that with heavier torso.)

Also, to my experience GL/Shield combo works best in close ranges since your enemy will not have time to evade because the distance for the grenades to explode is so short.

Still, I think 2x vulcans 2x glauxs has been the most fun setup to play, along with shotguns.

You can't fit anything other than and agi pack and two shotties on a frame if you want to have any kind of decent armour. And Grenade launchers up close aren't too bad to evade with an agi pack. Just time it, and watch them blow themselves up.

And no, a direct hit from a bazooka is easier to manage than a volley of a GL, doing over 1k damage -- because the damage value you see is applied to ALL body parts.

I mean, honestly, Bazooka is still a cheap weapon, it's just not as cheap anymore.

[c-chan]

My personal setups are dual SG + 2 donkeys, and a bazooka with dual egrets. I found these "up-close-and-personal" setups wayyyyy funner to play than missile/nade spamming.

Since COD BO came out, I think I might be "migrating" over to that game instead of this =/ It's a shame really; Double Helix had this ONE CHANCE to get to work on such a good title, and they somehow screwed it up. Makes me question the competency of the folks over at this ♥♥♥♥ty developer.

Personally I don't even get what the fuss about CoD franchise is all about. The multiplayer is ♥♥♥♥ing tedious.

I'd SERIOUSLY, I mean SERIOUSLY, rather play pacman.

[Redvan]

When fighting a good player it comes down to anticipating where your opponent is going to move. I'm actually trying Zook/rocket combo again now since I bought the DLC and it is not easy against good players, almost the contrary.

if you can anticipate where they're going, they're probably not good. A good player isn't going to let himself be anticipated.

[Zenithi]

Personally I don't even get what the fuss about CoD franchise is all about. The multiplayer is ♥♥♥♥ing tedious.

I'd SERIOUSLY, I mean SERIOUSLY, rather play pacman.

Trust me my friend it's very satisfying to sneak up to a nest of camping n00bs and knife them one by one silently.

[c-chan]

if you can anticipate where they're going, they're probably not good. A good player isn't going to let himself be anticipated.

I agree here, hence why it can be very challenging to use a zooka against a good player.