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Lord Byte
10-26-2010, 04:13 PM
I really really liked this game, but then you'd have to spoil it with something as annoying as "limited supplies".
What the ♥♥♥♥ is that supposed to do? Irritate us to no end? Not only is the feature broken as ♥♥♥♥, now we have to unlearn everything we learned and try to shoehorn whatever ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ items you decided into seven billion different ships. And we cannot continue in other nicer missions without doing that?
It doesn't show when you're designing what the limit on the item is, there's a big laundry-list that you cannot call upon when designing, nor does it block the items that would go over the limit. And when you go out it and click it doesn't even work until you leave the freakin' mission (or after some random click).
You just have to do trial and error until you're past this mission. I thought we left trial and error games in the 90ies.... Where they BELONGED.
It's sad, I was about to suggest it to some friends and then you did this :(

MazzaTheFirst
10-26-2010, 06:17 PM
Supply limits are just an additional challenge, like the anomalies, to see if you can make an efficient ship under constraints. It basically tests to see if you can build a powerful fleet without just throwing the best armour and shields at everything and steam rolling.

There is a list to show you what is limited in that specific battle so you just have to notice, "Only three reflective shields allowed. I need some more ships with different shields. No heavy armour, time to pull out the lightweight ships."

The supply limit battles are also very few and usually a lot later down the list. You could always do challenges against other players if you want to be unrestricted on which level you do. (Though some players do use supply limits. I have not seen it often but they do sometimes.)

It isn't really trial and error unless you mindlessly throw parts at your ships. Just observe what you cannot use at all, usually some form of heavy armour or a type of weapon, avoid those and build multiple types of ships around that particular challenge. You could even call them, "Supply Limit Ship 001" so you know you only bring it out in a supply limit battle.

Worst comes to worst just make a very minimalistic fleet and place as many ships as possible. You won't get much honour but you will get to the next level.

Lord Byte
10-26-2010, 07:10 PM
I wouldn't mind just a couple of the top items missing or whatnot, but it's just such a laundry list. Anytime I think I got something going after three ships apparently gizmo XXX is limited :( It just gets very very very tiring... I have 5 ship types already and I still get creamed in that battle... Because I can't field enough points and the crap I field gets wasted in seconds. It would be okay if I didn't have to keep changing their tactics all the time so the ships don't go to waste...

Just an exercise in futility and a real fun-breaker imho...

MazzaTheFirst
10-26-2010, 10:34 PM
Ah yeah, it happens. Some anomalies like restriction of ship types or reduced movement really grate on me. I actually stay away from supply limit battles when testing a new ship design. The only time when I put up with them is if I need the extra honour. I can understand why it would be aggravating.

Teutomic
10-27-2010, 01:54 PM
I got full honour but havn't complete Gravity Well yet... I do not have the focus to complete such battles ¬¬

Nexis123
11-12-2010, 10:38 PM
The list should at least be visible in the fitting screen. How are you supposed to rememer all those items.