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Desi
11-08-2010, 11:23 PM
How? both the Euro and AUD are worth more than your greenback right now.

It's because we get reamed in the A for all our prices. You know what happened when our Dollar went above the US Dollar? The Australian Reserve Bank raised the interest rates to devalue the currency, and prices for everything either stayed the same or went up. :(

So basically, I paid AU$300 for my 1GB GTX 460, but in America the price is actually like AU$150-200.

Oakie
11-08-2010, 11:26 PM
Core 2 duo. Theres your problem...

Hooch180
11-08-2010, 11:30 PM
I have E5200 @ 3.125 GHz . I will see in afternoon How it runs.

Desi
11-08-2010, 11:34 PM
Core 2 duo. Theres your problem...

Min specs list an earlier, weaker Core 2 Duo than mine. Also, have been able to run previous CoDs on Very High without problem. Other peoples with better processors than mine are reporting problems also.

Additionally, notice that I said RAM usage was at 50%. If the RAM is not full, the CPU should not be bottlenecked, period.

isamu99
11-08-2010, 11:40 PM
Not lookin good guys :(

GhostStalker
11-08-2010, 11:41 PM
Well I'm kind of scared for tomorrow when it's released for me:

E8500 Core 2 Duo 3.16 GHz (3.36)
4 GB DDR3 Kingston Ram
Asus 9800 GT Ultimate

BattlecruiZer
11-08-2010, 11:45 PM
ABSOLUTELY ANY options = freezed game with 100%cpu usage
2duo 3gghz

ToxicFork
11-08-2010, 11:47 PM
I think it's caused by the theater mode, logging all those information. Sigh.

YER DONE SON
11-08-2010, 11:48 PM
Game is pretty unplayable right now.

YahooElite
11-08-2010, 11:49 PM
I think its system specific or region, 2 ppl i watched play it on a stream didnt have any lag issues.

one from UK, other US.

Desi
11-08-2010, 11:49 PM
Well I'm kind of scared for tomorrow when it's released for me:

E8500 Core 2 Duo 3.16 GHz (3.36)
4 GB DDR3 Kingston Ram
Asus 9800 GT Ultimate

I have your CPU, but overclocked, better RAM, and a much better GPU. I can almost guarantee you some lag sandwich. :(

YER DONE SON
11-08-2010, 11:50 PM
I think its system specific or region, 2 ppl i watched play it on a stream didnt have any lag issues.

one from UK, other US.

I'm in the US and experiencing it.

Heisenberg
11-08-2010, 11:54 PM
It could be weeks before we get a patch for this fiasco, maybe even months.
The thought of this game going untouched for so long is sickening. I might have to resort to playing MW2...

vicgli05
11-08-2010, 11:54 PM
I'm in the US and experiencing it.

it makes me sick guys I feel for all of you. The game is unplayable on my $3k pc. I feel sorry for all the pc customers who have to suffer because "somebody" doesnt give a damn for pc customers anymore. Im not trying to stir up ♥♥♥♥. Im just extremely dissapointed that I cant play the game. Great first impressions huh guys? WOW treyarch. IM REALLY IMPRESSED. GREAAT JOB. my grandmother can code better. ITS CALLED PC prioritizing vs. gpu programming. get ur priorities straight. where do you get ur ♥♥♥in programmers?

e_m_d88
11-08-2010, 11:55 PM
They ♥♥♥♥ed us big time on this game. Why is this ♥♥♥♥ sooo damn buggy. TREYARCH. If you need some good quality testers. Please hire me!!! I can't believe this left the warehouses like this. FIX THIS PLEASE. Stutters more then a camera at high speed

BartP
11-08-2010, 11:55 PM
Treyarch will mostly likely patch this later during the day.
I becleave!

arkantos91
11-08-2010, 11:55 PM
Same here:

My specs:

E6600 3 ghz
Ram 2 Gb corsair xms 2
Vga Hd 4870

Totally unplayable even with low details -.-

sky01110227
11-08-2010, 11:56 PM
i have this issues too....even i turn everything down to lowest..i still get lags...lots ...lags.....

damn it.....it has been few hours since release.....wheres the patch and hotfixs ????....come on STEAM........your Steam.exe is so resource hungry when playing Black ops....

Xanity
11-08-2010, 11:56 PM
I'm in the US and experiencing it.

and im in UK and experiencing it.

Xanity
11-08-2010, 11:57 PM
I wonder if and when they will even speak to us, to inform us that they ACTUALLY KNOW and are working on this right away to fix it?
thats the kind of response id of expected, hours ago already.
sigh treyarch, sigh.

djprada
11-08-2010, 11:59 PM
This game is in an unplayable stage atm and needs a major patch. My game freezes and lags then just dies

Donut-_-
11-08-2010, 11:59 PM
i live in AU and i was one of the first to play the game, and im getting major issues! game lags differently everytime, and i have a beast Computer :(

Desi
11-09-2010, 12:00 AM
damn it.....it has been few hours since release.....wheres the patch and hotfixs ????

Ha! I think the problem should have been spotted with proper testing even before release, and I'm as antsy as you are, but to expect a perfect hotfix within a few hours is a bit much.

Jeremiah2h
11-09-2010, 12:01 AM
I've tried all options, even setting everything to Low.

It's not a problem related to graphical options/GPU lag. System monitoring tools (for me) show GPU usage at 60%, RAM usage at 50% and CPU usage at 100%. The CPU is bottlenecking even before the RAM is totally full, and that should not be happening.

thats weird, mine is at around 60% as well lol.

Q6600 @ 3ghz
Ati 5870 @ stock
4GB ram

i get like 30-60fps

mostly it is around 40fps

i get like 70+fps in singleplayer

Heisenberg
11-09-2010, 12:03 AM
I'm pretty sure this cluster**** is intentional. Don't like it? How about the "DLC PATCH" at only $9.95?

YER DONE SON
11-09-2010, 12:03 AM
Yeah the game definitely needs to be patched. Sucked for those who planned to take off work or school because right now it is nearly unplayable.

Desi
11-09-2010, 12:04 AM
thats weird, mine is at around 60% as well lol.

Q6600 @ 3ghz
Ati 5870 @ stock
4GB ram

i get like 30-60fps

mostly it is around 40fps

i get like 70+fps in singleplayer
Good for you? As we said, it's not anything to do with the GPU.

d3athb4d1shonor
11-09-2010, 12:04 AM
minimum system requirements for this game we're listed as a dual core, so expect lag if your not running 4 or more cores.

YER DONE SON
11-09-2010, 12:05 AM
Someone needs to spam that JD_2020 guy on Twitter :P

Tony89
11-09-2010, 12:06 AM
play bc2 not this ♥♥♥♥ty/kiddy games

Desi
11-09-2010, 12:07 AM
play bc2 not this ♥♥♥♥ty/kiddy games

Go play BC2 then, I've had enough of its hit detection.

Dr.House
11-09-2010, 12:07 AM
not likin the looks of this thread :/

JasonX1991
11-09-2010, 12:08 AM
Could one of you please tell me what options I should turn on or not, so it will work fluently.

Scythzor
11-09-2010, 12:09 AM
Let's see how it runs on:

Core i5 2,66ghz
Radeon 5850
4gb ram

Donut-_-
11-09-2010, 12:09 AM
i noticed that mine lags alot when i fire the gun :S weird huh?

arkantos91
11-09-2010, 12:11 AM
minimum system requirements for this game we're listed as a dual core, so expect lag if your not running 4 or more cores.

Nah I don't think so... the game is too similar to mw 2 to require a quad core, we've got to be serious...

Anyway we are sure there is a problem because I can't run it smoothly with my E6600 3 ghz but also people with I7 can't too...

I'm also wondering how could treyarch not to notice this problem during test phase??? Sry for english ( this last sentence is surely wrong! )

Desi
11-09-2010, 12:12 AM
Could one of you please tell me what options I should turn on or not, so it will work fluently.

Try turning Vsync off and killing the Steam process after starting the game up. That seems to work okay. Even then, the result is not fluid.

minimum system requirements for this game we're listed as a dual core, so expect lag if your not running 4 or more cores.
It is reasonable to expect to have to turn quality options down to get a smooth frame rate if you're running minimum specs. It is unreasonable if the lag persists even when you drop everything down to absolute rock bottom, and you're able to run lots of other games just fine, and people with better hardware than you are having the same problem, and when you look at the hardware monitoring results and know that you can't entirely blame your CPU because your RAM isn't even being used properly.

If my usage was 100% RAM, 100% CPU then it would be an easy case of Upgrade-The-CPU, but when RAM is at 50% and CPU is at 100%, something is clearly wrong.

NoChanceInHell
11-09-2010, 12:12 AM
I honestly don't think the problem is anything to do with our systems. I can run SP fine, as can plenty of ppl, its just the MP.

Look at the facts. When the lag spike hits, the ping shoots up into the 200+'s. If your CPU spiked, your ping shouldnt be effected, CPU doesnt govern your internet speed.

It is basically the netcode for the servers, and it's buggy, the MP needs a patch, so lets give them a chance to check it, find the errors and patch them up. The game is that good, its worth waiting for.

BFBC2 was a mess when it was released, ppl couldnt play for more than 2 minutes before getting random crashes to desktop and/or discconections, so no good comparing the two.

What puzzles me is that when you play a server with lag, the spikes continue after you've left that server. Not sure why or how that happens, nothing in my performance tabs to suggest anything going wrong.

NZFodder
11-09-2010, 12:13 AM
I don't expect a patch right away, that is completely unrealistic. Maybe a week or even two weeks.

It's a shame as the game is pretty damn fun. I may pick up the 360 version to tide me over until this is fixed (was going to get it for the 360 at a later date anyway). Although that will mean that I would have to play...with a control pad *GASP*

Seriously though, this is a huge problem and trey cannot and will not avoid it.

Desi
11-09-2010, 12:15 AM
I honestly don't think the problem is anything to do with our systems. I can run SP fine, as can plenty of ppl, its just the MP.

I'm not playing online, I think many others who posted in this thread weren't either. Netcode doesn't explain the singleplayer performance. It's something to do with Black Ops/Steam, definitely.

kosmo90
11-09-2010, 12:15 AM
What a joke,releasing an unplayable game. Great business ethics

YER DONE SON
11-09-2010, 12:15 AM
Silly me for waiting 8 months for this game xD

bfsilas
11-09-2010, 12:19 AM
I honestly don't think the problem is anything to do with our systems. I can run SP fine, as can plenty of ppl, its just the MP.

Look at the facts. When the lag spike hits, the ping shoots up into the 200+'s. If your CPU spiked, your ping shouldnt be effected, CPU doesnt govern your internet speed.

It is basically the netcode for the servers, and it's buggy, the MP needs a patch, so lets give them a chance to check it, find the errors and patch them up. The game is that good, its worth waiting for.

BFBC2 was a mess when it was released, ppl couldnt play for more than 2 minutes before getting random crashes to desktop and/or discconections, so no good comparing the two.

What puzzles me is that when you play a server with lag, the spikes continue after you've left that server. Not sure why or how that happens, nothing in my performance tabs to suggest anything going wrong.

sending packets with an unresponsive game = higher ping

BattlecruiZer
11-09-2010, 12:22 AM
thats weird, mine is at around 60% as well lol.

Q6600 @ 3ghz
Ati 5870 @ stock
4GB ram

i get like 30-60fps

mostly it is around 40fps

i get like 70+fps in singleplayer

omg i haet u, have 0 fps evrywhere :(

vicgli05
11-09-2010, 12:23 AM
What a joke,releasing an unplayable game. Great business ethics

sad part we are on the losing side. Its theft on their part but you know..the greedy prosper in modern day america. Nothing consumers can do about it. ETHICS? they have no ethics. they forgot to test their product before releasing it. And whats funny is that mw2 took 11 gb while black ops is 7? now I see why black ops is hoggin the CPU like a ♥♥♥♥♥w

YER DONE SON
11-09-2010, 12:26 AM
played zombie mode and its fine..its the MP portion of the game

Turi5mo
11-09-2010, 12:27 AM
Anyone here tried playing on something like

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ ?

With that low CPU i wonder if i can even look at the box...

Desi
11-09-2010, 12:29 AM
played zombie mode and its fine..its the MP portion of the game

Same for me, but some lag spikes at the start of every round.

timaloy
11-09-2010, 12:29 AM
absolute disgrace all that waiting and they havent even fixed tehgame right

Donut-_-
11-09-2010, 12:30 AM
Anyone here tried playing on something like

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ ?

With that low CPU i wonder if i can even look at the box...

well im running on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Core duo and mine lags alot, but it has its times, it switches how it lags and what it lags too

Turi5mo
11-09-2010, 12:31 AM
well im running on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Core duo and mine lags alot, but it has its times, it switches how it lags and what it lags too


You're playing on that CPU ? Call of Duty Black Ops ? On what settings ? What resolution ? Can u provide screenshot please ?

Donut-_-
11-09-2010, 12:33 AM
You're playing on that CPU ? Call of Duty Black Ops ? On what settings ? What resolution ? Can u provide screenshot please ?

im playing on Max settings, but it lags its balls off at times, but then at times its fine, and i switched the resolution to 800 X 600 just too see if it would change stuff

Maffis91
11-09-2010, 12:33 AM
Closing steam really helped, but I still get some stuttering and the performance is not acceptable. I've tried playing on lowest on 1280x1024 and the framerate is still only 30.

Turi5mo
11-09-2010, 12:35 AM
im playing on Max settings, but it lags its balls off at times, but then at times its fine, and i switched the resolution to 800 X 600 just too see if it would change stuff

Screenshot please ?

crash2bandicot
11-09-2010, 12:35 AM
THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR BUYING IT FOR PC! :D

Scythzor
11-09-2010, 12:36 AM
Runs great here, btw for ati users turn every Anti-alialising option off, also that morph filter. And use the in-game AA, it did run slower but after turning AA off in control panel it runs smooth. Specs:

Intel Core i5 2,66ghz
ATI 5850
4GB RAM

chrisdglong
11-09-2010, 12:36 AM
THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR BUYING IT FOR PC! :D

And you'll soon get something for posting flames about PC in a PC forum...

h0rs
11-09-2010, 12:37 AM
I don't expect a patch right away, that is completely unrealistic. Maybe a week or even two weeks.

It's a shame as the game is pretty damn fun. I may pick up the 360 version to tide me over until this is fixed (was going to get it for the 360 at a later date anyway). Although that will mean that I would have to play...with a control pad *GASP*

Seriously though, this is a huge problem and trey cannot and will not avoid it.

Completely unrealistic?

Countless games over the past few years have had zero day patches.

The fact is that the game is totally unplayable with the exception of a few (I have one friend out of about ~30 friends who doesn't experience any freezing.)

What I did expect were some issues because of no open BETA testing and what not, but nothing this game breaking.

Donut-_-
11-09-2010, 12:38 AM
THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR BUYING IT FOR PC! :D

your gana get attacked by a pack of Pc gamers dude... dont test their tracking skills

chrisdglong
11-09-2010, 12:38 AM
From 4 to 2 or from 2 to 1?..

Usually, it is 3 cores. Happened in BC2 till Nvidia released a driver fix.

Desi
11-09-2010, 12:38 AM
THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR BUYING IT FOR PC! :D

Go somewhere else and diddle your joystick, son.

spieslikeus
11-09-2010, 12:39 AM
THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR BUYING IT FOR PC! :D

♥♥♥♥ you console bastard!

TimmySlim
11-09-2010, 12:40 AM
nvidia 240 gt, amd 2 duo.
Gta 4 work good, Cod BO - LAGS! :mad::mad::mad:
how to fix it! will update? Let's update!

crash2bandicot
11-09-2010, 12:41 AM
Go somewhere else and diddle your joystick, son.

I'd rather diddle your mom

Turi5mo
11-09-2010, 12:41 AM
Anyone else playing on something similar to AMD 64 X2 5200+ ???

Corrupted12
11-09-2010, 12:42 AM
Apparently the PC status is "fully operational" -

http://callofduty.com/blackops/status

HA!

chrisdglong
11-09-2010, 12:42 AM
Forcing games onto steam is there way of trying to kill of pc gamers :(

Nope, it's there way of going the cheapo route. They want to keep the game as console as possible, the prices too. Activision, EA, and Ubisoft are going this way. They are large corporations, are in it for the business end of things, and simply want to maximize profits. That is what CEO Bobby Kotick is there for, to maximize shareholder's profit. That is why any CEO exists in large corp.

Donut-_-
11-09-2010, 12:42 AM
uhmm why dont we try validating the files?? i did it and it took like 15 minutes to download files that were "missing"

Turi5mo
11-09-2010, 12:44 AM
uhmm why dont we try validating the files?? i did it and it took like 15 minutes to download files that were "missing"

Dont listen to that guy, he's just trolling.

He doesnt want to give any proof just ignores people that want a screenshot or anything from him.

Desi
11-09-2010, 12:47 AM
I'd rather diddle your mom
Oh snap! :D

Apparently the PC status is "fully operational" -

http://callofduty.com/blackops/status

HA!
Thanks for that, I LOLed!

DualOwn
11-09-2010, 12:48 AM
Guys dont worry the lag will be gone when steam unlocks BlackOps.. Steam/Valve is makeing us lag because we didnt buy it from them...They are punishing us..

crash2bandicot
11-09-2010, 12:49 AM
♥♥♥♥ you console bastard!

At least I'm playing right now :P

Donut-_-
11-09-2010, 12:50 AM
Dont listen to that guy, he's just trolling.

He doesnt want to give any proof just ignores people that want a screenshot or anything from him.

naa im gana get a screenshot bro i just havnt had the time to get one, i will as soon as my computer starts fkin working, i will post one as soon as i can, im not trolling

Desi
11-09-2010, 12:50 AM
Guys dont worry the lag will be gone when steam unlocks BlackOps.. Steam/Valve is makeing us lag because we didnt buy it from them...They are punishing us..

I bought from them, and yet I have a free deluxe helping of CPU lag. Surprise!

SLP_Prime
11-09-2010, 12:50 AM
Im sure all this will be fixed by morning

Anrom80
11-09-2010, 12:52 AM
I just have ridiculous lag on Multiplayer and even some in singleplayer:mad:. My PC is way above system requirements. I have a Intel Extreme Quad6850, 4GB ram, GTX 280 and I still lag, even on normal settings. Did they even test this before releasing it?!?!:confused:

DualOwn
11-09-2010, 12:53 AM
I just have ridiculous lag on Multiplayer and even some in singleplayer:mad:. My PC is way above system requirements. I have a Intel Extreme Quad6850, 4GB ram, GTX 280 and I still lag, even on normal settings. Did they even test this before releasing it?!?!:confused:

Probaly not..

Mr.Bigtime
11-09-2010, 12:54 AM
Insane lags,freezings. Especialy when i encounter with an enemy my game freezes, after 3, 4 seconds keeps continue but meanwhile iam dead already. Un acceptable.

Q9650 quad cpi
Nvidia 480
8gb rams
Xfigamer sound card


Dman u developers.

Desi
11-09-2010, 12:54 AM
Im sure all this will be fixed by morning

We can only hope; no amount of complaining will make it go faster, anyway. As long as Treyarch know what's going on, I am content for now.

UselessMouth
11-09-2010, 12:54 AM
Apparently the PC status is "fully operational" -

http://callofduty.com/blackops/status

HA!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14599534/124124124-1.jpg

luckyme
11-09-2010, 12:55 AM
Add me to the list of people who can't play without massive lag.

"All systems are green and Call of Duty: Black Ops online services are fully operational."

What a joke.

Desi
11-09-2010, 12:57 AM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14599534/124124124-1.jpg
HAHA!

DualOwn
11-09-2010, 12:57 AM
Call Of Duty - Lag Ops

crash2bandicot
11-09-2010, 12:58 AM
Call Of Duty - Lag Ops

Call Of Duty - I should have bought a console to play this on

Shredinator
11-09-2010, 01:00 AM
Guys..

They have tested it - and it worked fine for them, im 100% sure. They tested it with their own non-steam version, and since everything went smooth for them - they released the game.

You can't really blame them.

alvaroga91
11-09-2010, 01:01 AM
Apparently the PC status is "fully operational" -

http://callofduty.com/blackops/status

HA!

Dude, the only one that is having some issues is Xbox, which is in Defcon 3. If you click in any of the other 3, you'll see is defcom 5.

quidxrazer
11-09-2010, 01:01 AM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14599534/124124124-1.jpg
:D

This is sad....

Desi
11-09-2010, 01:02 AM
Call Of Duty - I should have bought a console to play this on

Lawl.

h0rs
11-09-2010, 01:03 AM
Guys..

They have tested it - and it worked fine for them, im 100% sure. They tested it with their own non-steam version, and since everything went smooth for them - they released the game.

You can't really blame them.

No offense dude, but that is utter rubbish.

The whole point of testing something is to make sure almost every corner is covered.

Who else can we blame BUT them for not allowing a more rigorous testing process?

Desi
11-09-2010, 01:03 AM
Guys..

They have tested it - and it worked fine for them, im 100% sure. They tested it with their own non-steam version, and since everything went smooth for them - they released the game.

You can't really blame them.

That is like saying that I built a house which collapsed because I didn't prepare the foundation properly, but because I did a test build on a foundation that *was* prepared properly, you can't blame me.

Ulysseys
11-09-2010, 01:04 AM
Guys..

They have tested it - and it worked fine for them, im 100% sure. They tested it with their own non-steam version, and since everything went smooth for them - they released the game.

You can't really blame them.

DUDE, THEY TESTED IT WITHOUT, WITHOUT (NON STEAM) YOU DUMB ♥♥♥♥, the actual issue is STEAM ITSELF is causing a majority of the issues, BASED ON THE FACT WHEN YOU DISABLE STEAM AND RUN IT, IT ♥♥♥♥ING WORKS

Desi
11-09-2010, 01:07 AM
DUDE, THEY TESTED IT WITHOUT, WITHOUT (NON STEAM) YOU DUMB ♥♥♥♥, the actual issue is STEAM ITSELF is causing a majority of the issues, BASED ON THE FACT WHEN YOU DISABLE STEAM AND RUN IT, IT ♥♥♥♥ING WORKS

That's what he said. =\

h0rs
11-09-2010, 01:08 AM
Assuming you kill Steam, how exactly does this effect gameplay?

Doesn't VAC run through Steam, in turn, wouldn't that get you kicked from a game?

I play this game with friends, so the friends component of steam is pretty important to me.

Can someone please elaborate on this?

Ulysseys
11-09-2010, 01:08 AM
That's what he said. =\

The idea is, if your releasing a game, made to be intergrated into steam, you should test it on steam?

Shredinator
11-09-2010, 01:08 AM
Whatever, lol.

Ulysseys
11-09-2010, 01:09 AM
Assuming you kill Steam, how exactly does this effect gameplay?

Doesn't VAC run through Steam, in turn, wouldn't that get you kicked from a game?

I play this game with friends, so the friends component of steam is pretty important to me.

Can someone please elaborate on this?

No, as a test in single player the fps is fine, in multiplayer it works okay but then about 1-2minutes later you get kicked, but the fps remains fine

Desi
11-09-2010, 01:10 AM
Assuming you kill Steam, how exactly does this effect gameplay?

Doesn't VAC run through Steam, in turn, wouldn't that get you kicked from a game?

I play this game with friends, so the friends component of steam is pretty important to me.

Can someone please elaborate on this?
Well basically, you're SOL if you want to play online. =\

SteveMac
11-09-2010, 01:10 AM
Same performance issues here.

UselessMouth
11-09-2010, 01:11 AM
Kinda reminds me of that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0zVL8IRRvo

lostshot
11-09-2010, 01:11 AM
Heres a quick fix for the lag problem:

uncheck enable steam community in-game from steam options

cetnikz
11-09-2010, 01:13 AM
i3 3.20 GHz
4GB DDR2
64 BIT
ATI Radeon HD 5500

Hey guys, I don't know a lot about computers, but these are my specs. Should this be enough to run COD at a decent resolution? I can't play single player above lowest resolution, and Multiplayer is unplayable due to lag spikes.. any help would be appreciated.

vironix
11-09-2010, 01:14 AM
in for stuttering SP and MP...

gosh this game is unplayable at this moment...

pala_
11-09-2010, 01:19 AM
and yet activision are making us (aussies) pay $89.99+ for their AAA titles on steam.

i mean forget about COD:BO and its problems on day 1.. activisions price hiking is absolutely criminal. they are lucky i rely on the steam platform and have had great experiences with it, otherwise i would pirate the ♥♥♥♥ out of their games.

no kidding, thats why i made sure myself and all my mates that got it didn't pay the AU price.

luckyme
11-09-2010, 01:20 AM
Heres a quick fix for the lag problem:

uncheck enable steam community in-game from steam options

Didn't work for me. Has anyone else noticed that when you do play, you're constantly losing your connection to steam?

ScaryStuff
11-09-2010, 01:21 AM
haven't read thru all the pages here yet, but did anyone consider that it might be the anticheat that is causing the lag, like punkbuster does? Treyarch DID say they had an extra surprise regarding cheaters and if it only in MP, even at the start in the menu, it sounds very much like some anticheat doing its rounds. Give it a little time and let Treyarch fiddle with the settings and i'm sure it will be fine. Also remember that the graphic drivers normally gets updated soon after a new game, so it works better.

KillJoY14
11-09-2010, 01:23 AM
^^ seems people are having the issue in both SP and MP

I have also rumored and ventured around other boards and people have said " there are already patches issued" any word on this?

Desi
11-09-2010, 01:23 AM
haven't read thru all the pages here yet, but did anyone consider that it might be the anticheat that is causing the lag, like punkbuster does? Treyarch DID say they had an extra surprise regarding cheaters and if it only in MP, even at the start in the menu, it sounds very much like some anticheat doing its rounds. Give it a little time and let Treyarch fiddle with the settings and i'm sure it will be fine. Also remember that the graphic drivers normally gets updated soon after a new game, so it works better.

1) Anti-cheat should be a problem, as I am playing offline. Unless it is running constantly? =\
2) The GPU is not the problem. Even when I lag my GPU usage stays at around 60%.


^^ seems people are having the issue in both SP and MP

I have also rumored and ventured around other boards and people have said " there are already patches issued" any word on this?
The patches they are thinking of are Day 0 files which I also downloaded about ten hours ago, 103MB large. They (apparently) were .exes not included in the release, but I cannot confirm this.

Desi
11-09-2010, 01:26 AM
Yeah on a ♥♥♥♥ty console that is ♥♥♥♥ing outdated as ♥♥♥♥. I'm running on an i7 @4ghz along with 2 gtx 480's in sli. Your xbox / ps3 costs 300 bucks eh? my system is the equivelant to 9 xbox's or 9 ps3's.. so eat a ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥..

Please, ignore him. We want him to go away. Thanks a lot.

Ulysseys
11-09-2010, 01:29 AM
So a some people I know said they have been getting a steady 150fps or so ever since they started, not expeiricing this mass fps drop stuff, they have normal settings nothing changed, though mostly likely tried but everyone out there they did disable v-sync nd AA

spieslikeus
11-09-2010, 01:29 AM
And is all that expensive equipment helping you play the game right now?

fail my equipment isnt the problem. It's the programming that is the problem. It's the fact that pc gaming is being shot down and being made last. Ported over and this is the end result. Your xbox can play the game @ 720p with flying colors :) I can play the game @ 2560 x 1600 along with 3 other monitors.. the irony is that this is a pc forum... stop trolling ..

xd.balls
11-09-2010, 01:30 AM
Yeah on a ♥♥♥♥ty console that is ♥♥♥♥ing outdated as ♥♥♥♥. I'm running on an i7 @4ghz along with 2 gtx 480's in sli. Your xbox / ps3 costs 300 bucks eh? my system is the equivelant to 9 xbox's or 9 ps3's.. so eat a ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥..

Hey you have the *exact* same PC as me.

Wow on the internet, everyone has super computers!

Freyar
11-09-2010, 01:31 AM
So a some people I know said they have been getting a steady 150fps or so ever since they started, not expeiricing this mass fps drop stuff, they have normal settings nothing changed, though mostly likely tried but everyone out there they did disable v-sync nd AA

They're lying quite heavily. The engine limits the framerate to 90.

spieslikeus
11-09-2010, 01:31 AM
Hey you have the *exact* same PC as me.

Wow on the internet, everyone has super computers!

♥♥♥♥ yeah! i like you..

bfsilas
11-09-2010, 01:32 AM
Steam servers down?! could it be a hotfix?

cetnikz
11-09-2010, 01:33 AM
i3 3.20 GHz
4GB DDR2
64 BIT
ATI Radeon HD 5500

Hey guys, I don't know a lot about computers, but these are my specs. Should this be enough to run COD at a decent resolution? I can't play single player above lowest resolution, and Multiplayer is unplayable due to lag spikes.. any help would be appreciated.


quoting myself again, has anyone with similar specs had the same problems in SP or MP? I'd like to play one or the other..

spieslikeus
11-09-2010, 01:33 AM
They're lying quite heavily. The engine limits the framerate to 90.

I thought that the console was unlocked there for the commands com_maxfps where known.. Just like in modern warfare 1 you can change the fps cap from 91 to 250. 250 is the highest you can get because having more fps means u can jump higher. idk why its just the engine is built that way.. anyways if they where to cap the fps @ 91 I'd be pissed! why unlock the console if I can't use it..

Desi
11-09-2010, 01:36 AM
quoting myself again, has anyone with similar specs had the same problems in SP or MP? I'd like to play one or the other..

From what little I know about I3s, they are dual core CPUs, introduced on the heels of the Core 2 family. So you'd be getting around the same performance or slightly better as the rest of us.

So yes, you should expect the same problems.

Finalwish
11-09-2010, 01:36 AM
Freeze up with 8 GB ram and a 3.2 ghz quad core cpu >.> man did they even install this game on a test machine

dirtylarryuk
11-09-2010, 01:38 AM
fail my equipment isnt the problem. It's the programming that is the problem. It's the fact that pc gaming is being shot down and being made last. Ported over and this is the end result. Your xbox can play the game @ 720p with flying colors :) I can play the game @ 2560 x 1600 along with 3 other monitors.. the irony is that this is a pc forum... stop trolling ..

one once they fix the pc version we can play in 3d at 1600p at 60+ fps the ♥♥♥♥box can't even play it in 3d for that you need a geystation.

dirtylarryuk
11-09-2010, 01:39 AM
Freeze up with 8 GB ram and a 3.2 ghz quad core cpu >.> man did they even install this game on a test machine


Its pretty sad when MOH had less bugs than COD 7 day one.

Right now i wish i had not purchased this game.

Freyar
11-09-2010, 01:40 AM
I thought that the console was unlocked there for the commands com_maxfps where known.. Just like in modern warfare 1 you can change the fps cap from 91 to 250. 250 is the highest you can get because having more fps means u can jump higher. idk why its just the engine is built that way.. anyways if they where to cap the fps @ 91 I'd be jarateed! why unlock the console if I can't use it..

What's wrong with 91 FPS? That's 1.5x the average display's refresh rate and generally a smooth rate to have as-is. I could understand complaining about 30 or something..

As a side note, I do yield that they could have changed it through the console. Considering how long it's been since I've got to play with one in the CoD series, I didn't remember it was there.

spieslikeus
11-09-2010, 01:41 AM
one once they fix the pc version we can play in 3d at 1600p at 60+ fps the ♥♥♥♥box can't even play it in 3d for that you need a geystation.


g t f o

ty :)

davegee124
11-09-2010, 01:41 AM
im getting same,massive lag spikes then im dead lol

brand new pc last week
windows 7
4gb 1333 ram
I3 pentium
gtx 460 gpu
all stock settings

game is unplayable now..the first game i had this morning was good..no lags or anything but now i cant even play it :(

it lags in menu too.

and why am i getting about 6000 servers listed lol..why is there no option to weed the high ping servers out or am i missing something?

spieslikeus
11-09-2010, 01:42 AM
What's wrong with 91 FPS? That's 1.5x the average display's refresh rate and generally a smooth rate to have as-is. I could understand complaining about 30 or something..

As a side note, I do yield that they could have changed it through the console. Considering how long it's been since I've got to play with one in the CoD series, I didn't remember it was there.

nothing wrong with it. Infact I wouldn't mind if they capped it that way everyone is on the same playing field. But they said that the console would be unlocked.. Yet they still capped the fps? I don' get it lol.

spieslikeus
11-09-2010, 01:45 AM
im getting same,massive lag spikes then im dead lol

brand new pc last week
windows 7
4gb 1333 ram
I3 pentium
gtx 460 gpu
all stock settings

game is unplayable now..the first game i had this morning was good..no lags or anything but now i cant even play it :(

it lags in menu too.

and why am i getting about 6000 servers listed lol..why is there no option to weed the high ping servers out or am i missing something?

Yeah dude just don't worry about it right now. I'm just guna sit back and watch a movie till this whole fiasco blows over. I'm telling you guys they gimped the pc version so that way they can sell more console versions and if you don't know what gimped means. It means they create something that's working then they remove a key piece of the puzzle to advertise there so called better product in which they want you to buy a console version. Then 2-3 days later they finally put the key piece of the puzzle back and play it off like it was an accident or that they never anticipated the problem or some bull ♥♥♥♥.. anyways your system is pro! goodluck!

Desi
11-09-2010, 01:47 AM
Yeah dude just don't worry about it right now. I'm just guna sit back and watch a movie till this whole fiasco blows over. I'm telling you guys they gimped the pc version so that way they can sell more console versions and if you don't know what gimped means. It means they create something that's working then they remove a key piece of the puzzle to advertise there so called better product in which they want you to buy a console version. Then 2-3 days later they finally put the key piece of the puzzle back and play it off like it was an accident or that they never anticipated the problem or some bull ♥♥♥♥.. anyways your system is pro! goodluck!
Yeah, I'm going to go play Titan Quest or something while this whole dealy sorts itself out.

Cyborgmatt
11-09-2010, 01:49 AM
It's not a performance issue, it's something on the backend, everyone on my Ventrilo was freezing at the same time ingame, regardless of how good their rig was.

These freezes also happen on the main menu and like ingame, happen at the exact same time as each other.

This needs fixing ASAP, really unplayable at the moment.

dsu
11-09-2010, 01:50 AM
I'm having the same problem.

I'm also rating this thread 5 stars so people keep an eye on it

Desi
11-09-2010, 01:50 AM
It's not a performance issue, it's something on the backend, everyone on my Ventrilo was freezing at the same time ingame, regardless of how good their rig was.

These freezes also happen on the main menu and like ingame, happen at the exact same time as each other.

This needs fixing ASAP, really unplayable at the moment.

All signs point to Steam, then.

EeekiE
11-09-2010, 01:50 AM
Mine was doing this in the menu. I set the resolution to native, put the refresh rate to 120hz and turned off V-Sync.

All light and whispy and instant now.

enodepraw
11-09-2010, 01:51 AM
I was actually expecting this problem as it was present in WAW, and other Treyarch COD titles.
I really really wanted Treyarch to surprise me with a decent game, but I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

They came back and fixed WaW up nicely. Not trying to defend a shoddy release, but - i'm at least counting on treyarch to fix their mistakes..and perhaps even compensate..but I'm not counting on the latter too highly

spieslikeus
11-09-2010, 01:53 AM
They came back and fixed WaW up nicely. Not trying to defend a shoddy release, but - i'm at least counting on treyarch to fix their mistakes..and perhaps even compensate..but I'm not counting on the latter too highly

haha if they don't fix it they have another thing coming. I'll file an impending lawsuit hehehehe. Empty threats are so amazing :) anyways lets be realistic they will fix it. They should pay us for our time wasted..

Tigerr13
11-09-2010, 01:54 AM
What do you expect? Old graphics card and an old processor. :confused:

Same with Bahamut.

Bull♥♥♥♥. Far more than enough to run this on maxed graphics. I run MW2 maxed on my crappy laptop maxed out.

spieslikeus
11-09-2010, 01:57 AM
Bull♥♥♥♥. Far more than enough to run this on maxed graphics. I run MW2 maxed on my crappy laptop maxed out.

You tell em!

takaralolita
11-09-2010, 01:59 AM
They have the decency to include dedicated servers, lean, and FOV up to 90, though.

decency, hahaha, You're so concerned with
squabbling for the scraps from Longshank's (Game Developers) table that you've missed
your God-given right to something better.

Sethirus
11-09-2010, 02:02 AM
I think you all fail to realize how many variables are present in the creation of a PC game...just think of all the different combination's of hardware out there..and driver versions...and...well everything...PC games are hard as hell to develop and even harder to test as they developer doesn't have every configuration of hardware available to the public just sitting in their office ready to be tested on...

My guess is computers to most of you are just magic boxes that do stuff...amiright?

Limp0r
11-09-2010, 02:05 AM
I think you all fail to realize how many variables are present in the creation of a PC game...just think of all the different combination's of hardware out there..and driver versions...and...well everything...PC games are hard as hell to develop and even harder to test as they developer doesn't have every configuration of hardware available to the public just sitting in their office ready to be tested on...

My guess is computers to most of you are just magic boxes that do stuff...amiright?

Yeah but i never seen a game that cant be played by nearly 80% of the playerbase???

Jigs
11-09-2010, 02:05 AM
FPS LAGG/ TELEPORTING this is like playing on another continent.. yet im playing in my own country SUPER SAD FACE !!

EeekiE
11-09-2010, 02:05 AM
To clarify, and so people can try and find a possible problem:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
Asus P6T Deluxe x58
Intel i7 920 C0 @ 3.5Ghz
6GB DDR3 @ 1680Mhz
300GB WD VelociRaptor (Windows and Steam)
ASUS Xonar STX
2x nVidia GTX280 in SLi
22" Viewsonic 3D monitor (although I'm not using 3D Vision)
Latest nVidia drivers

When I first opened the game, the menu was stuttering, mouse was delayed and choppy. Kept overshooting what I wanted to click.

I went in to Options > Graphics, and set the resolution from 1024x768 to 1680x1050. I set the refresh rate from 60hz to 120hz. I turned off Vertical Sync. Clicked apply, when the screen came back, everything was instant and fluid, as per previous COD titles.
Joined a multi-player server for about 5 minutes before work, everything was smooth, no lag, or stalls or freezes.

So:

Try setting the game to your desktop (or native) resolution and refresh rate, and try disabling vertical sync.

riZen
11-09-2010, 02:06 AM
Single player maxed out, and I only have

Intel core 2 duo @ 2.40ghz
2gb ddr2
9000gt 1gb

But MP runs at below 30FPS.

morgs
11-09-2010, 02:06 AM
This is ridiculous, I didn't pay over $100 for a broken product. Saying this is understandable for any game on release day is bull♥♥♥♥, When they release the product it should be in a working condition.

davegee124
11-09-2010, 02:06 AM
I think you all fail to realize how many variables are present in the creation of a PC game...just think of all the different combination's of hardware out there..and driver versions...and...well everything...PC games are hard as hell to develop and even harder to test as they developer doesn't have every configuration of hardware available to the public just sitting in their office ready to be tested on...

My guess is computers to most of you are just magic boxes that do stuff...amiright?

i wish i could just type NO

Sethirus
11-09-2010, 02:07 AM
Yeah but i never seen a game that cant be played by nearly 80% of the playerbase???

Today 01:02 AM
Sethirus I think you all fail to realize how many variables are present in the creation of a PC game...just think of all the different combination's of hardware out there..and driver versions...and...well everything...PC games are hard as hell to develop and even harder to test as they developer doesn't have every configuration of hardware available to the public just sitting in their office ready to be tested on...

My guess is computers to most of you are just magic boxes that do stuff...amiright?



you haven't been playing games as long as I have then on pc's...

Desi
11-09-2010, 02:08 AM
I think you all fail to realize how many variables are present in the creation of a PC game...just think of all the different combination's of hardware out there..and driver versions...and...well everything...PC games are hard as hell to develop and even harder to test as they developer doesn't have every configuration of hardware available to the public just sitting in their office ready to be tested on...

Just because it is difficult, does not mean it should not be done. And as to your point about how they don't have every configuration of hardware, this could have easily been fixed by having an open beta. That is why you're supposed to test with as wide a variety of platforms as possible.

Sethirus
11-09-2010, 02:08 AM
i wish i could just type NO

most honest person I have seen all night +rep

takaralolita
11-09-2010, 02:08 AM
I think you all fail to realize how many variables are present in the creation of a PC game...just think of all the different combination's of hardware out there..and driver versions...and...well everything...PC games are hard as hell to develop and even harder to test as they developer doesn't have every configuration of hardware available to the public just sitting in their office ready to be tested on...

My guess is computers to most of you are just magic boxes that do stuff...amiright?

Na, I think trying tell people there stupid in round about way just gets there back up. truth is, we pay 40 each for game that we expect to work. yes there a lot variables, but if the company is not up to job of making sure it works then they should no be in business. its just about laziness and lack of time in Beta testing. I don't think people are unable to know what's going on. they just have expectation if there going spend there money on product, then it should work. and not have 3 days for hot fix before it works properly. can you image if you bought a mobile phone and it cut out every 1 min or so for couple seconds. same thing. poor quality of build!!!

Dr.House
11-09-2010, 02:09 AM
completly unplayable on lowest settings and in windowed mode

Sethirus
11-09-2010, 02:09 AM
Just because it is difficult, does not mean it should not be done. And as to your point about how they don't have every configuration of hardware, this could have easily been fixed by having an open beta. That is why you're supposed to test with as wide a variety of platforms as possible.


not so easy when investors have to pay you and you have deadlines...I swear none of you have any idea how hard it is to make a game...it's all just magic to you isn't it...

Jigs
11-09-2010, 02:09 AM
All i want is confirmation from either STEAM or Treyarch that they acknowledged that there is a problem.. Stop leaving us in the dark we paid for your game.. also this is what happens when there is no PC Beta BAM it would be fixed if there was...

PatchuKnowledge
11-09-2010, 02:09 AM
decency, hahaha, You're so concerned with
squabbling for the scraps from Longshank's (Game Developers) table that you've missed
your God-given right to something better.

I'm atheist. Also I'm not ♥♥♥♥♥ing because if they don't fix this crap in a week, I'm getting a refund.

Sethirus
11-09-2010, 02:10 AM
Na, I think trying tell people there stupid in round about way just gets there back up. truth is, we pay 40 each for game that we expect to work. yes there a lot variables, but if the company is not up to job of making sure it works then they should no be in business. its just about laziness and lack of time in Beta testing. I don't think people are unable to know what's going on. they just have expectation if there going spend there money on product, then it should work. and not have 3 days for hot fix before it works properly. can you image if you bought a mobile phone and it cut out every 1 min or so for couple seconds. same thing. poor quality of build!!!

umm yeah I bought a moto razor when they were the coolest thing on the block...

spieslikeus
11-09-2010, 02:11 AM
most honest person I have seen all night +rep

mang why u gotta do me like that.

SayaSe
11-09-2010, 02:13 AM
It's Treyarch.
Indeed. World at War was terrible in comparison to both Modern Warfares.

Jigs
11-09-2010, 02:13 AM
Today 01:02 AM
Sethirus I think you all fail to realize how many variables are present in the creation of a PC game...just think of all the different combination's of hardware out there..and driver versions...and...well everything...PC games are hard as hell to develop and even harder to test as they developer doesn't have every configuration of hardware available to the public just sitting in their office ready to be tested on...

My guess is computers to most of you are just magic boxes that do stuff...amiright?



you haven't been playing games as long as I have then on pc's...


And this is where a beta would somewhat fix some issues..

wariord
11-09-2010, 02:13 AM
THE PROBLEM IS STEAM USES YOUR BANDWIDTH TO SEND THE GAME TO OTHER PLAYERS VIA BUILT IN BIT-TORRENT SYSTEM.

ON DUEL CORE CPUS IS VERY BAD BECAUSE STEAM USES CPU TIME IN THE BACKROUND DOING ITS GAY UPLOADING ♥♥♥♥

IN GAME SUFFERS AS WELL BECAUSE STEAM IS STEALING YOUR UPLOAD BANDWIDTH, CAUSING ADDITIONAL LAG AND RANDOM SPIKES.

TLDR: STEAM IS FAILING, ONCE EVERYONE HAS THE GAME DLING IN A DAY OR 2, LAG SHOULD BE GOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEEE

KillJoY14
11-09-2010, 02:14 AM
THE PROBLEM IS STEAM USES YOUR BANDWIDTH TO SEND THE GAME TO OTHER PLAYERS VIA BUILT IN BIT-TORRENT SYSTEM.

ON DUEL CORE CPUS IS VERY BAD BECAUSE STEAM USES CPU TIME IN THE BACKROUND DOING ITS GAY UPLOADING ♥♥♥♥

IN GAME SUFFERS AS WELL BECAUSE STEAM IS STEALING YOUR UPLOAD BANDWIDTH, CAUSING ADDITIONAL LAG AND RANDOM SPIKES.

TLDR: STEAM IS FAILING, ONCE EVERYONE HAS THE GAME DLING IN A DAY OR 2, LAG SHOULD BE GOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEEE

Since when did steam use p2p transfer for files? lol

frankvdg
11-09-2010, 02:15 AM
pass the popcorn

FuryX
11-09-2010, 02:15 AM
Totally unplayable. 5fps at one point /sigh

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9413/callofdutyblackops5fps.jpg

Sethirus
11-09-2010, 02:16 AM
lol no one is sharing anything...

takaralolita
11-09-2010, 02:16 AM
umm yeah I bought a moto razor when they were the coolest thing on the block...

Well done, you bought another crappy product, it does not mean because someone has realised a ♥♥♥♥e product, means everyone else has too. I never expect games to run smoothly at launch. but a little annoyed that its this bad. I guess I have higher standards when comes to games.

Unknown07
11-09-2010, 02:17 AM
I found a fix!!!!!

Go outside and wait until tomorrow!

EeekiE
11-09-2010, 02:18 AM
Since when did steam use p2p transfer for files? lol

It doesn't. No matter how many CAPS are used to say it does.

Hachach19
11-09-2010, 02:18 AM
I'm atheist. Also I'm not ♥♥♥♥♥ing because if they don't fix this crap in a week, I'm getting a refund.

Yea good luck with that.

spieslikeus
11-09-2010, 02:19 AM
Yea good luck with that.

He didn't pay for a broken product. That's false advertising and he will get his money back one way or another.

naticus
11-09-2010, 02:19 AM
THE PROBLEM IS STEAM USES YOUR BANDWIDTH TO SEND THE GAME TO OTHER PLAYERS VIA BUILT IN BIT-TORRENT SYSTEM.

ON DUEL CORE CPUS IS VERY BAD BECAUSE STEAM USES CPU TIME IN THE BACKROUND DOING ITS GAY UPLOADING ♥♥♥♥

IN GAME SUFFERS AS WELL BECAUSE STEAM IS STEALING YOUR UPLOAD BANDWIDTH, CAUSING ADDITIONAL LAG AND RANDOM SPIKES.

TLDR: STEAM IS FAILING, ONCE EVERYONE HAS THE GAME DLING IN A DAY OR 2, LAG SHOULD BE GOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEEE

You sir should feel special. You have posted the dumbest ♥♥♥♥ I have heard here today.

Desi
11-09-2010, 02:19 AM
I can't wait to see what happens when the game unlocks for North America. This forum is going to *explode*.

FuryX
11-09-2010, 02:19 AM
Does r_multithreaded_device 1 work?

Desi
11-09-2010, 02:20 AM
Does r_multithreaded_device 1 work?

I tried toggling it, as well as the flag above it, but it didn't do much.

PatchuKnowledge
11-09-2010, 02:20 AM
I can't wait to see what happens when the game unlocks for North America. This forum is going to *explode*.

This thread is already moving pretty ♥♥♥♥ing fast, and it's only 9:20AM in England.

Hachach19
11-09-2010, 02:21 AM
He didn't pay for a broken product. That's false advertising and he will get his money back one way or another.
I'll take my words back once I see it.

EeekiE
11-09-2010, 02:22 AM
Can people shut up with your PERSONAL feuds that NOBODY else gives a ♥♥♥♥ about, take it to PM or a separate thread, and leave this thread for diagnosing this problem please?

Has anyone else tried what I did to see if it fixes the problem?

FuryX
11-09-2010, 02:22 AM
How does an issue like this not get fixed..i mean wow..its so bad.

Desi
11-09-2010, 02:22 AM
This thread is already moving pretty ♥♥♥♥ing fast, and it's only 9:20AM in England.
The official Call of Duty forum is already half-broken, and was completely down earlier today!

DualOwn
11-09-2010, 02:22 AM
*****UPDATE*****
To Fix The Lag Issue Follow these steps..

1.Punch Your Self in the face.
2.Uninstall your game.
3.Put The CD back in the case.
4.Put the Case in the Toilet.
5.Take A Dump On The Case.(Remember To Flush and Wipe Very important)
6.Have A Cup of OJ.
7.Re-Install Game..


Works fine for me.. good luck to everyone else..(If doesnt work the first time. repeat the steps again.)

Desi
11-09-2010, 02:23 AM
Can people shut up with your PERSONAL feuds that NOBODY else gives a ♥♥♥♥ about, take it to PM or a separate thread, and leave this thread for diagnosing this problem please?

Has anyone else tried what I did to see if it fixes the problem?

Are you talking about changing to native resolution and turning off Vsync? Yes, and still the same result.

That is basically rote for me when running a game anyway can't imagine who wouldn't do it.

jpitcairn
11-09-2010, 02:24 AM
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.8Ghz
8GB DDR2 RAM
ATI Radeon HD4670 1GB

serious spikes also. Game runs flawless at max settings besides these huge spikes.

Agent_Wesker
11-09-2010, 02:24 AM
*****UPDATE*****
To Fix The Lag Issue Follow these steps..

1.Punch Your Self in the face.
2.Uninstall your game.
3.Put The CD back in the case.
4.Put the Case in the Toilet.
5.Take A Dump On The Case.(Remember To Flush and Wipe Very important)
6.Have A Cup of OJ.
7.Re-Install Game..


Works fine for me.. good luck to everyone else..(If doesnt work the first time. repeat the steps again.)

This worked for me as well, should be stickied.

MANFACE
11-09-2010, 02:27 AM
Very heavy lag. Game is broke.

DualOwn
11-09-2010, 02:28 AM
Very heavy lag. Game is broke.

welcome to the club bro

SenpaiSilver
11-09-2010, 02:29 AM
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 3.2GHz (overclocked)
nVidia GTX 285
RAM 2Gb

The game is very laggy, the menu are very laggy after going on to the server and disconnecting but for 30 seconds the game was running great.

Hope there will be a fix quickly... :/

Tyoson
11-09-2010, 02:29 AM
*****UPDATE*****
To Fix The Lag Issue Follow these steps..

1.Punch Your Self in the face.
2.Uninstall your game.
3.Put The CD back in the case.
4.Put the Case in the Toilet.
5.Take A Dump On The Case.(Remember To Flush and Wipe Very important)
6.Have A Cup of OJ.
7.Re-Install Game..


Works fine for me.. good luck to everyone else..(If doesnt work the first time. repeat the steps again.)
Thanks this worked great. +1 for sticky!

EeekiE
11-09-2010, 02:30 AM
Are you talking about changing to native resolution and turning off Vsync? Yes, and still the same result.

That is basically rote for me when running a game anyway can't imagine who wouldn't do it.

I agree its pretty basic, but you can't deny the PC gaming community has gone downhill lately in terms of basic knowledge. Often feels like I'm scraping food back in to the dribbling mouths of others.

I'm out of ideas now. I definitely had the problem you described, and as soon as I updated my graphics settings, it went.

Only thing left is a complete uninstall and reinstall as others are suggesting.

Unknown07
11-09-2010, 02:30 AM
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 3.2GHz (overclocked)
nVidia GTX 285
RAM 2Gb

The game is very laggy, the menu are very laggy after going on to the server and disconnecting but for 30 seconds the game was running great.

Hope there will be a fix quickly... :/

2gb of ram now a days is not enough.. especially if you are running Windows 7 or Vista with this game.

Xenn0X
11-09-2010, 02:37 AM
this is so bs. have 8 cores and 8 gb and still runs like ♥♥♥♥

UselessMouth
11-09-2010, 02:38 AM
2gb of ram now a days is not enough.. especially if you are running Windows 7 or Vista with this game.
I have 2 gb with win 7 and most of games working fine for me with high performances. Especially mw2 :/

Esthin
11-09-2010, 02:38 AM
I am also getting heavy lag.

I play on lowest settings with loads of the glow, bloom, blur etc. turned off in the config files.


In Combat Training I get a steady 20-30 FPS, then in multiplayer I get anywhere from 1-30 FPS.

Desi
11-09-2010, 02:39 AM
I agree its pretty basic, but you can't deny the PC gaming community has gone downhill lately in terms of basic knowledge. Often feels like I'm scraping food back in to the dribbling mouths of others.

I'm out of ideas now. I definitely had the problem you described, and as soon as I updated my graphics settings, it went.

Only thing left is a complete uninstall and reinstall as others are suggesting.

The fix I put into my original post (the first post on this thread) worked quite well for me and made it largely playable, but it's still far from fluid, and it lagspikes very frequently. Sometimes the lag nullifies my controls and I can't shoot or reload for a few seconds. =\

kinnawill
11-09-2010, 02:42 AM
Hi

I'm experiencing rather bad lag as well in this game, I can run all the other cod games on max setting but for some reason I cant even run this game smooth even on the lowest, very strange.

My system specs are Phenom x4 940 with 4GB RAM and GTX260 they are over the system minimum requirements, so surly I should be able to play.

All drivers up to dated and I even done a fresh install of windows 7 x64 for the game, hope they bring some sort of a fix out for this, I mean I cued up for an hour and 20 mins for this :(

Sejf
11-09-2010, 02:45 AM
The stuttering in MP is horrible. I think it's because of the damn statistics server or whatever. It gets updated every few seconds causing stutter, that is why even the main menu lags.

ScaryStuff
11-09-2010, 02:47 AM
If my usage was 100% RAM, 100% CPU then it would be an easy case of Upgrade-The-CPU, but when RAM is at 50% and CPU is at 100%, something is clearly wrong.

U keep going with the ram not being used so cpu shouldn't be bottlenecking. How about u take a computer class and learn how computers work so we don't have to look at how ignorant u seem to be.

Desi
11-09-2010, 02:48 AM
U keep going with the ram not being used so cpu shouldn't be bottlenecking. How about u take a computer class and learn how computers work so we don't have to look at how ignorant u seem to be.

Yes yes, I learned all about it in another thread in this forum. I had a vague idea of its function, and I know better now.

So was that your only contribution, then?

Freyar
11-09-2010, 02:49 AM
I've seen CPU spikes myself corresponding with the game pulling itself down to a crawl. There's something a bit off.

Sensator
11-09-2010, 02:56 AM
A hotfix would be nice.

terrahimen
11-09-2010, 02:57 AM
I see people mentioning lag at beginning of the match or that it helps to kill the Steam process. I wonder dose this affect VAC?
NO ONE HERE HAS ACCUSED Valve Anti Cheat YET?

I know for a fact that punkbuster has caused a lot of lag problems at certain times, beginning of the match scans, bad PB updates etc, in CODWAW.

When turning off Punkbuster, and joining non Punkbuster enabled servers the lag issues would completely go away .

I guess were not afforded that option to test with VAC off as its always on BS? Just a thought.

Glichfinder
11-09-2010, 03:00 AM
lol you speak about laggs :D i cant even join a game :D

thomnowuk
11-09-2010, 03:00 AM
Just keep tweeting @Treyarch until the decide to actually do anything about it! They're meant to be reading they're tweets...

Sarge945
11-09-2010, 03:01 AM
Same for me, but some lag spikes at the start of every round.

THIS

single + zombies works fine, but MP I will play alright for 30 seconds, then have 10 seconds of complete freeze

EeekiE
11-09-2010, 03:02 AM
Could be a Steamworks integration issue then, although it doesn't make sense as to why mine did it until I changed my settings.

The spikes you're getting is probably your game trying to communicate with Steam, and then timing out when it can't, causing little temporary lock ups.

Try running Steam as Administrator, launch the game and leave it open as you normally would, maybe?

CukyDoh
11-09-2010, 03:02 AM
OS: Win7 Ult x64
RAM: 4GB
CPU: Quad Phenom 9950
GPU: Geforce GTX480
NET: Very reliable 50Mb connection

Same problems as everyone else, just posting to contribute to the vast list of specs to prove the point its not our comps. Runs smooth as butter 1920x1200, 16xAA and High/Extra/Max everything else except for the frequent and crippling lag spikes.

I get mine in online MP, the offline MP training mode and in the SP campaign. I haven't tried zombie mode yet though as I've called it a day for now.

One partial fix I did get was the suggestion to turn off VSync which did remove a stutter I was having every time I fired a gun for some obscure reason. The remaining issues I think we all agree are Treyarch's problem.

Antihero24
11-09-2010, 03:03 AM
Game is completely unplayable on my end, Locks up constantly.

ScaryStuff
11-09-2010, 03:05 AM
THE PROBLEM IS STEAM USES YOUR BANDWIDTH TO SEND THE GAME TO OTHER PLAYERS VIA BUILT IN BIT-TORRENT SYSTEM.

ON DUEL CORE CPUS IS VERY BAD BECAUSE STEAM USES CPU TIME IN THE BACKROUND DOING ITS GAY UPLOADING ♥♥♥♥

IN GAME SUFFERS AS WELL BECAUSE STEAM IS STEALING YOUR UPLOAD BANDWIDTH, CAUSING ADDITIONAL LAG AND RANDOM SPIKES.

TLDR: STEAM IS FAILING, ONCE EVERYONE HAS THE GAME DLING IN A DAY OR 2, LAG SHOULD BE GOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEEE

NO IT DOESN'T.

NSSherlock
11-09-2010, 03:06 AM
Console game ported to PC=CPU intensive as every other console port out there. Why im not surprised?

yooz1e
11-09-2010, 03:11 AM
Try Window Mode, it helped me. Now its playable but still need le patch in the end.

AngerIsAGift
11-09-2010, 03:12 AM
A hotfix would be nice.

This!

Antihero24
11-09-2010, 03:12 AM
Console game ported to PC=CPU intensive as every other console port out there. Why im not surprised?

Theres a difference between CPU intensive and whatever the hell this abortion of a game is.

Raigen
11-09-2010, 03:14 AM
Console game ported to PC=CPU intensive as every other console port out there. Why im not surprised?

MW2 was a console port aswell but is running fine for everyone, but try again!

EeekiE
11-09-2010, 03:18 AM
If I (or many people here) worked at Treyarch, just ONE extra wage, this wouldn't have happened.

There's no excuse really.

Cer
11-09-2010, 03:18 AM
Are there any in-game video settings that you guys recommend to lighten the load on the CPU? What options do we have from the menu?

alvaroga91
11-09-2010, 03:18 AM
Window mode helps, but is still impossible to play.

lolorman
11-09-2010, 03:19 AM
Thank god i'm not the only one... My Spec is

Core 2 Duo @ 2,66 GHZ
4 GB RAM
HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 - DirectX11

With this Spec, I had MW2 running like a charm with maxed out settings.

Now BO runs "ok" (not great, but ok) in the SP, downtimes here and there but it's playable.

But the multiplayer is absolutley unplayable at the moment. Those lags are absolutley horrible and really need to get fixed asap.

I wonder if Treyarch/Valve already recognized the problem or if they are still busy partying with their "Celebs" and Josh Olin still lurking around at Midnight Sales.

Antihero24
11-09-2010, 03:20 AM
Thank god i'm not the only one... My Spec is

Core 2 Duo @ 2,66 GHZ
4 GB RAM
HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 - DirectX11

With this Spec, I had MW2 running like a charm with maxed out settings.

Now BO runs "ok" (not great, but ok) in the SP, downtimes here and there but it's playable.

But the multiplayer is absolutley unplayable at the moment. Those lags are absolutley horrible and really need to get fixed asap.

I wonder if Treyarch/Valve already recognized the problem or if they are still busy partying with their "Celebs" and Josh Olin still lurking around at Midnight Sales.


They aren't dumb, they know its broken for PC we probably won't see a fix until the end of the week though. Sadly PC doesn't matter anymore if you aren't xbox you might as well be a third world country citizen.

GOLEM777
11-09-2010, 03:23 AM
Oh my god! They killed CoD! Basterds!


Back my MONEY. - No JOK/

nuclearpidgeon
11-09-2010, 03:24 AM
Has anyone played this on console? I know this is a PC forum (:P), but it would be interesting to see what the performance is like on the PS3 and 360.
Certainly they won't have to worry about any issues with Steam...

I've been getting performance issues too: Intel C2D E6400 (I know, I know, It's old), 4GB RAM and a XFX 5770 overclocked a little
I can play MW2 all settings maxed at 1280x1024 with no lag at all, (60fps vsynced) but blackops lags at 1024*768 with all the settings down on singleplayer... and I haven't even tried the multiplayer yet :-/

garack
11-09-2010, 03:26 AM
no fficial word? stutter like hell with q6600@3.4 and gtx470 4 gig

Unclean009
11-09-2010, 03:27 AM
no fficial word? stutter like hell with q6600@3.4 and gtx470 4 gig

I have the same exact system. I know your pain.

ShaneTim
11-09-2010, 03:28 AM
I blame Steve Jobs!

lolorman
11-09-2010, 03:28 AM
They aren't dumb, they know its broken for PC we probably won't see a fix until the end of the week though. Sadly PC doesn't matter anymore if you aren't xbox you might as well be a third world country citizen.

And I thought MW2 was bad. At least we were able to play it after we bought it...

SenpaiSilver
11-09-2010, 03:28 AM
2gb of ram now a days is not enough.. especially if you are running Windows 7 or Vista with this game.

I'm running XP, I'm waiting for chrismas to change for a i7 950 and at least 6Gb of RAM.

feelingtheblank
11-09-2010, 03:30 AM
I think we should stop writing our specs here. It's not about how good or bad our systems are. This game is broken, and it doesn't matter if it's because of Steamworks integration or bad optimization. This is the biggest fail of 2010...

Antihero24
11-09-2010, 03:32 AM
Meh I only bought this game to kill time until cataclysm. Guess I'll go back to minecraft

lolorman
11-09-2010, 03:35 AM
Meh I only bought this game to kill time until cataclysm. Guess I'll go back to minecraft

Same here, now I guess we'll have to wait until december to get a hoftix for this crap

DrKalashnikov
11-09-2010, 03:37 AM
What do you expect? Old graphics card and an old processor. :confused:

Same with Bahamut.

I have 9600gt 4gb ram on 64 bit OS Q6600...and I don't get ANY fps-based problems. BUT there is a HUGE lag problem.

..people need to understand these two issues are completely different. LAG != FPS

EeekiE
11-09-2010, 03:38 AM
I think we should stop writing our specs here. It's not about how good or bad our systems are. This game is broken, and it doesn't matter if it's because of Steamworks integration or bad optimization. This is the biggest fail of 2010...

The purpose of writing specs isn't about how "good or bad" our systems are. It's about seeing patterns. I have no problems, but there are people with equal and even greater specs that DO have problems. So it could have been a problem with a common sound chip, or 64bit or something like that.

If this is affecting a lot of people, then it is a ♥♥♥♥ty job at a release, but it's not necessarily the biggest fail of 2010.

Treyarch did well with supporting WaW on PC. Whether you liked the game itself or not.

Poor release, ♥♥♥♥ing annoying, makes you want to throw the lot away and be done with it, but don't write the game off yet.

somit
11-09-2010, 03:40 AM
With this game the term FPS converts to SPF.

Antihero24
11-09-2010, 03:46 AM
With this game the term FPS converts to SPF.

Haha so true, funny thing is the graphics are worse then MW2 but the game is 10x slower

EeekiE
11-09-2010, 03:48 AM
I have 9600gt 4gb ram on 64 bit OS Q6600...and I don't get ANY fps-based problems. BUT there is a HUGE lag problem.

..people need to understand these two issues are completely different. LAG != FPS

This is the BANE of trouble shooting PC gaming nowadays. If SOMETHING isn't happening quick enough, people just moan LAG LAG LAG LAG LAG LAG how 2 fix LAG

Then you get a ream of:

TRY TURN OFF ANTIVIRUS
TRY REBOOT ROUTER
TRY FORWARD PORT
TRY NEW SERVER
TRY OVERCLCOKIN CPU
TRY TURN OFF ANTI ALIASING
R U CONNECTID WIRLESSLY?



Lag is INTERNET LATENCY. It's possible to have a large delay between mouse click and weapon firing, and it NOT be a problem with "input lag" or frames per second!

Packet loss is spikes of latency in game, intermittent lag and warping WITHOUT affecting frame rate. It is possible to be froze in place, or yourself or others moving in chunks while still having a rock solid 125FPS!

"Input lag" is MOUSE or KEYBOARD latency, where the frame rate AND internet latency is fine. Movement is delayed, but everyone else in game appears fine, your ping is fine, and your frame rate is fine.

LOW FRAME RATE/STUTTERING is caused by low frame rate, and is NOT CALLED LAG. This can be general due to poor performance.

LOW FRAME RATE SPIKES are caused by an otherwise healthy frame rate sometimes bombing down in to single figures under certain circumstances. This is FRAME RATE, NOT how OTHER people are moving, or even how YOUR player is moving in multiplayer. THIS IS NOT 'LAG'!


If people actually described what is wrong with them, in more words than just "OMG LAG", or "it is slow mw2 was fien' it would be 10x ♥♥♥♥ing easier to help. PC gaming died because all those younger brothers who watched big brother play 10 years ago didn't learn anything.

Flam3_19
11-09-2010, 03:49 AM
The game has just been f**king released give it time, BC2 took a couple of days to get sorted after release day.

In all honesty I blame Steam as when I run Steam in offline mode Black Ops runs fine, but obviously without Steam being online you can't continue on after not playing for a bit again because you aren't connected to Steam Cloud etc. Again give it some time, things will get sorted out in the mean time go outside... that place that is above your parents basement and out the front door =)

Sa-Matra
11-09-2010, 03:52 AM
Game is unplayable. I was able to run Crysis on medium settings without a problem, but this ♥♥♥♥ NEVER STOPS LAGGING. No matter what you do, it ALWAYS LAGS. I want to kill someone. This is unspeakable.

RAFANET
11-09-2010, 03:56 AM
bro STOP USING ATI on GAMES ..is ur VGA ..uses NVIDIA ..AND thats it !

EeekiE
11-09-2010, 03:57 AM
Game is unplayable. I was able to run Crysis on medium settings without a problem, but this ♥♥♥♥ NEVER STOPS LAGGING. No matter what you do, it ALWAYS LAGS. I want to kill someone. This is unspeakable.

See you say lag, but you're mentioning Crysis on 'medium settings' so you don't actually mean lag do you? You mean frames per second. You're talking about your computer rendering the game right?
Or are you actually talking about internet lag, and mentioning Crysis on medium settings is just unrelated confusion thrown in?

Your ignorance of PC gaming is unspeakable.
Nobody can help you if you can't even describe the problem.

Lag is NETWORK LATENCY.

feelingtheblank
11-09-2010, 03:57 AM
I know it's about seeing patterns but it's clear that those problems are not about specs. People who have tried to force stop steam.exe can see that all stutterings are gone. It may be a steamworks integration issue but the thing is they should have test it with wide variety of setups and ensure the safest launch possible. Because they named Call of Duty as the biggest action game franchise. What we get?

So, supporting WaW has no meaning at that point. Even WaW, has still performance issues with its unpolished poo-style graphics.

They of course will fix the issues with BO. But this is not the case. They first should stop calculating midnight sales (i mean Josh Olin) and focus on "day 1" problems immediately.

xxxdeftonesxxx
11-09-2010, 03:57 AM
I want my money back!

aphex187
11-09-2010, 03:59 AM
See you say lag, but you're mentioning Crysis on 'medium settings' so you don't actually mean lag do you? You mean frames per second. You're talking about your computer rendering the game right?
Or are you actually talking about internet lag, and mentioning Crysis on medium settings is just unrelated confusion thrown in?

Your ignorance of PC gaming is unspeakable.
Nobody can help you if you can't even describe the problem.

Lag is NETWORK LATENCY.

That's where people are going wrong by saying lag! it's a frames per second performnace problem that is causing the stuttering not lag!

creativerehash
11-09-2010, 04:00 AM
Everyone in this thread:

"GGGNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH."

:D

seren1tynow
11-09-2010, 04:00 AM
is it me or is there nothing to connect too anymore

DB 006
11-09-2010, 04:01 AM
Hopefully, Treyarch will sit up and take notice when US players start raging about the problems when they start playing?

A point:-

1. It's obviously not an end user PC compatability issue

seren1tynow
11-09-2010, 04:01 AM
nvm, for a while there i couldnt connect to anything, and all servers stopped showing up too

Sa-Matra
11-09-2010, 04:02 AM
See you say lag, but you're mentioning Crysis on 'medium settings' so you don't actually mean lag do you? You mean frames per second. You're talking about your computer rendering the game right?
Or are you actually talking about internet lag, and mentioning Crysis on medium settings is just unrelated confusion thrown in?

Your ignorance of PC gaming is unspeakable.
Nobody can help you if you can't even describe the problem.

Lag is NETWORK LATENCY.
People for many years already use word 'lag' to describe low fps and\or stuttering.

scratchy##
11-09-2010, 04:02 AM
See you say lag, but you're mentioning Crysis on 'medium settings' so you don't actually mean lag do you? You mean frames per second. You're talking about your computer rendering the game right?
Or are you actually talking about internet lag, and mentioning Crysis on medium settings is just unrelated confusion thrown in?

Your ignorance of PC gaming is unspeakable.
Nobody can help you if you can't even describe the problem.

Lag is NETWORK LATENCY.

You know exactly what he means and your post is not helping, obvious troll is obvious.

eetcheez
11-09-2010, 04:04 AM
That's where people are going wrong by saying lag! it's a frames per second performnace problem that is causing the stuttering not lag!
Thing is, both problems exist in this game it seems. And people using lag for both just makes it extremely confusing.

Lag signifies network latency. Framerate issues are not lag.

kegsy11
11-09-2010, 04:04 AM
I'm having all the same issues with SP and MP, menus lagging, game lagging FPS is fine though. I'm running;

i7 X980 @ 3.33GHz
6GB RAM
ATI HD5970 CrossFire enabled

with all maximum settings the FPS is just fine, unfortunately the lagging makes the game almost unplayable. :(

hoping for a patch soon

if this computer doesnt work im not sure what will

lolorman
11-09-2010, 04:05 AM
Is it possible that this has something to do with Intel Chips?

I just received a call from a friend of mine who just bought the game, and he says it works like a charm, maxed out at the highest definition.

His Spec:

AMD X3 (3 Cores) - Dont know how its clocked
4 GB RAM
1 GB Dirext X 10 ATI Graphic Card

All the people posting here got Intel chips, i wonder if this has something to do with it.

SWATerson
11-09-2010, 04:05 AM
Have Treyarch acknowledged this problem yet? We all need to spam their tweeter/email and make sure they know what is going on.

hamdemon
11-09-2010, 04:07 AM
Is it possible that this has something to do with Intel Chips?

I just received a call from a friend of mine who just bought the game, and he says it works like a charm, maxed out at the highest definition.

His Spec:

AMD X3 (3 Cores) - Dont know how its clocked
4 GB RAM
1 GB Dirext X 10 ATI Graphic Card

All the people posting here got Intel chips, i wonder if this has something to do with it.

I'm on an AMD system and it's just as bad for me.

Flam3_19
11-09-2010, 04:07 AM
Running Steam in offline mode can greatly increase the FPS rate of the game especially for SP.

seren1tynow
11-09-2010, 04:11 AM
the game not working is one thing, even though im unhappy i cant play i understand problems occur.

what i cant stomach is the lack of acknowledgement we recieve, even a "yes there is an issue, we are working on it" or SOMETHING would ease my frustration a little

Antihero24
11-09-2010, 04:12 AM
Yea I am a little annoyed Josh Olin is masturbating over xbox figures instead of saying oh look PC is broken.

Antihero24
11-09-2010, 04:14 AM
http://twitter.com/jd_2020

Spam his twitter

kANTO
11-09-2010, 04:14 AM
Please all retweet and spam @treyarch and @JD_2020 about the issues they will respond I hope...

FuryX
11-09-2010, 04:15 AM
memory leak