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internisus
11-18-2010, 11:18 AM
Update: The developer has consented to add controller support. I no longer discourage any readers from purchasing this game. COREPLAY's statement can be found on page 3 of this thread, and I will quote it here for your convenience:
Hi,
due to the fact that so many people asked for the support of Game Controllers, we will release an update for 'Ion Assault' in the next days.
The coming update fixes some minor issues like the corner desktop bug as well as adding support for Xbox360 Game Controller (or other compatible XInput Dualstick Gamepads).
I also changed the title of this thread to a more precise meaning.
Regards
Peter
(Lead Programmer, COREPLAY)
I will leave the content of this post intact so as to preserve the original grievances and arguments. Update ends.
There is no controller support for Ion Assault, and the rationale given by the developer is asinine and infuriating. Essentially, to protect their own pride, they are electing to provide an inferior product. I was surprised and excited to find this released on Steam yesterday, November 17th, so please believe that I am not expressing bias or otherwise irrationally "hating" when I tell you that it is essentially unplayable in its current state.
The following text is reproduced from an exchange on the game's Facebook page. (There was not yet a Steam forum yesterday when I was looking for a way to discuss this problem.) Only names have been altered for privacy's sake. Currently, it has been more than 17 hours with no response or further activity in the discussion. If I receive a reply, I will post an update in this thread. This game is somewhat novel and appealing, and I want people to support it; but only after this fundamentally debilitating design issue has been resolved.
Ion Assault is now available for PC Windows! Thanks to Steam you will be able to compare scores with your friends after each stage and will be rewarded with new achievements for extra high scores!
Jessica A. Any chance that you can xbox 360 controller support to this was really suprised when I started it up and it was k/B and mouse only.
Ion Assault We discussed that here intensely, but finally we decided against the additional controller support. That would have distort the highscores because of the fact that a controller offers an unfair advantage (the most pc gamer unfortunately don't have a controller).
internisus That is a ridiculous decision. This is at bottom a "twin-stick" style game. Controlling movement with the binary input of a keyboard is a horrible experience. Not only am I barely able to control the ship through this method, but for some reason my mouse is clicking through to my desktop and rearranging stuff as I drag. (I have to go through my folders now and figure out what dropped where.)
It is presumptuous to think that you are protecting PC gamers by denying them the most popular control option. The 360 controller is widely used for PC input with arcade games such as this as well as third-person action/adventure titles that more traditionally appear on consoles because we understand that analog sticks are better suited to controlling the player avatars of such genres. What you have done here may preserve the purity of your leaderboard but also ensures that your PC customers receive a far worse product.
I guarantee to you that anyone who cares at all about the leaderboard already owns and is going to want to use a controller of some kind instead of playing with mouse and keyboard. I am actually insulted by the insinuation that I would attempt play a game like this competitively without a controller. There is greater overlap between PC and console audiences than you seem to think. Just because I prefer the PC platform does not mean that I don't appreciate the value of analog sticks in some situations over a mouse and keyboard.
The PC version of this game is currently unacceptable to me. I came here to ask about 360 controller support after finding that no forum for Ion Assault yet exists on the Steam community site, and I am shocked to read your answer. If you will not change your mind—and I beseech you to do so, if only out of respect to your own otherwise very cool game—then I intend to demand a refund.
e-head
11-18-2010, 11:41 AM
Thanks for this warning. I *almost* bought the game right away yesterday, but then decided to wait for some user opinions.
I won't buy this game without controller support. The developer's arguments are ridiculous.
I don't care much about Internet high-scores, I want to have fun playing. Also, with the increasing number of console ports it's almost a must for a PC gamer to have a controller, so their argument is invalid.
If they care so much about the high scores, they could make separate ones for keyboard and controller players.
Lord Gremlin
11-18-2010, 12:17 PM
Wow. I thought it's actually impossible to play such game without controller. It's like Super Stardust HD on PSN, right? They should have added option for some controller, maybe Logitech dualshock clone at least.
Developers deserve a medal for stupidity. Also shocking news: some gamers have mouse/keyboard that are far superior to average ones.
internisus
11-18-2010, 12:37 PM
Wow. I thought it's actually impossible to play such game without controller. It's like Super Stardust HD on PSN, right?
Yes, precisely; that's the type of game it is. Forcing people to play that with binary rather than analog controls is just insane!
t4phage
11-18-2010, 12:57 PM
Damn. Dual-stick shooters are my favorite genre of games but I refuse to buy a game in which the developers opted to limit my comfort and fun. I will certainly buy this game if it gets 360 controller support. Nice to see that I'm not the only one irked about this.
Chizu
11-18-2010, 02:44 PM
Yup. Glad I checked here.
No buy for me without controller support.
Most people who would be interested in this type of game, most likey have a pad anyway.
Memphix
11-18-2010, 03:36 PM
Same here i'm afraid. Game looks gorgeous, but blatently needs gamepad support. Stuff playing a shootemup with keys. Strewth, even emulators code in solid joypad support.
Zeuserich
11-18-2010, 04:06 PM
Its not THAT bad really. Game is meh, controls are sucky (as in literally - theres something wrong with ships turning/moving) and they cut co-op/multiplayer modes - enough reasons not to buy the game.
Joystick for pc? Who actually uses them nowadays? I have one collecting dust on my table (logitech force 3d pro) - didn't even bother to plug it in for 2 years. Last game that i used to play it was x3: terran conflict and it wasn't convenient at all.
toejam
11-18-2010, 04:06 PM
This disappoints me greatly - I almost bought it on a whim earlier AND I just watched the trailer and I want it even more now.
Add in gamepad support and I'll buy this.
Don't add in gamepad support and expect your game to die.
internisus
11-18-2010, 04:29 PM
Its not THAT bad really. Game is meh, controls are sucky (as in literally - theres something wrong with ships turning/moving) and they cut co-op/multiplayer modes - enough reasons not to buy the game.
Joystick for pc? Who actually uses them nowadays? I have one collecting dust on my table (logitech force 3d pro) - didn't even bother to plug it in for 2 years. Last game that i used to play it was x3: terran conflict and it wasn't convenient at all.
No one is talking about a joystick. (And I would be using a joystick every day if the wonderful space combat sim genre hadn't all but disappeared.)
What this is about is an arcade game that plays like Asteroids and Robotron or, more recently, Everyday Shooter and Geometry Wars. As opposed to a shooter in which the screen scrolls, like Gradius and R-Type, the default state of the avatar in this closed-arena sub-genre is rest.
You need to be able to fully control your speed and direction so as to evade enemies amidst extreme chaos, and this is even more true in Ion Assault because it adds the defining idea of sucking in nearby particles to form each of your blasts. These particles collect in pockets, most usually at the corners of the play arena, so you must constantly stay on the move to outmaneuver hazards, enemies, and their weapons while pursuing your own ammunition.
Pressing WASD on the keyboard results in erratic high-speed bursts in only eight possible directions. It's awful. The dynamic movement of analog sticks is absolutely vital to this game.
He@vens
11-18-2010, 05:42 PM
Thank you for the warning.
Soylent
11-18-2010, 06:35 PM
Oh give me a break, it plays fine with keyboard and mouse. Now, the DirectX "Out of memory" errors are another thing..
joel2007
11-18-2010, 10:16 PM
Oh give me a break, it plays fine with keyboard and mouse. Now, the DirectX "Out of memory" errors are another thing..
What is yours specs?
gothic-x
11-19-2010, 04:33 AM
I was so close to buying this last night, but with no mention of controller support on the store page, I decided to wait till the forums appeared for the game to find out if it was included. Glad I made that decision now.
Cyrielx2
11-19-2010, 08:40 AM
Did anyone actually bother to just use the AHK script, or is this just a bunch of people QQing because they can't use their x360 gamepad?
internisus
11-19-2010, 09:27 AM
Did anyone actually bother to just use the AHK script, or is this just a bunch of people QQing because they can't use their x360 gamepad?
I resent your elitist implication that everyone playing games on a PC needs to be a L337 script kiddie fluent in WoW slang. This is just a bunch of people QQing because the developer actually thought it was a good idea to deny them the basic consumer option of using the most common sense input method for this game. The idea that the user should be responsible for bringing a product up to standards is absolutely horrible for the PC platform.
LurkerLito
11-19-2010, 09:44 AM
Thanks I just removed it from my cart. I was about to buy it till I read this post. I am so glad I read these forums before I pressed checkout.
kreed_uk
11-19-2010, 10:57 AM
Thanks I just removed it from my cart. I was about to buy it till I read this post. I am so glad I read these forums before I pressed checkout.
I wish I had before I bought this :(
mjrmua
11-19-2010, 12:39 PM
I wish I had before I bought this :(
seconded
:(
internisus
11-19-2010, 01:20 PM
Yeah, I actually have a very limited gaming budget at the moment, and I very carefully considered purchasing this game. I watched several videos on YouTube and read a strong review from Eurogamer. That's part of the reason why I'm particularly frsutrated by this and want to see a correction as soon as possible.
Cyrielx2
11-19-2010, 01:30 PM
No Cyriel, i didn't read what you said properly and instead reverted to a silly state in which i gashed your entire comment out of context. I also don't know what AHK is, so could you please tell me what it is you meant by that?
Sincerely, a disgruntled consumer.
That's ok, most people manage to do that on forums these days.
Also you should look here if you need more information about AHK.
http://www.autohotkey.com/
With a bit of help from google, you'll have no problems finding a completely functional x360 controller mapping script. If this is somehow unsatisfactory, i urge you, and people like yourself to get over yourself and quit this pointless negative atmosphere generation.
Good luck :)
internisus
11-19-2010, 01:52 PM
Did anyone actually bother to just use the AHK script, or is this just a bunch of people QQing because they can't use their x360 gamepad?
I resent your elitist implication that everyone playing games on a PC needs to be a L337 script kiddie fluent in WoW slang. This is just a bunch of people QQing because the developer actually thought it was a good idea to deny them the basic consumer option of using the most common sense input method for this game. The idea that the user should be responsible for bringing a product up to standards is absolutely horrible for the PC platform.
No Cyriel, i didn't read what you said properly and instead reverted to a silly state in which i gashed your entire comment out of context. I also don't know what AHK is, so could you please tell me what it is you meant by that?
Sincerely, a disgruntled consumer.That's ok, most people manage to do that on forums these days.
Also you should look here if you need more information about AHK.
http://www.autohotkey.com/
With a bit of help from google, you'll have no problems finding a completely functional x360 controller mapping script. If this is somehow unsatisfactory, i urge you, and people like yourself to get over yourself and quit this pointless negative atmosphere generation.
Good luck :)
I responded accurately to your initial comment without removing any statements from their context. You adopted a snobbish, derisive tone and suggested that everyone should stop whining that a bog-standard, fundamentally vital feature was intentionally excluded from the PC release of this game that has been available to Xbox 360 owners for more than a year already. You implied that we should all repair the game ourselves using a third-party solution that requires a not-insignificant amount of computer literacy. You employed the slang "QQ" to dismiss everyone's perfectly legitimate complaints as crying, although its proper use is as a verb for quitting due to insufficient skill, especially in World of Warcraft.
If you had read my post correctly, you would have gleaned my main point. I will repeat it for you now: The idea that the user should be responsible for bringing a product up to standards is absolutely horrible for the PC platform.
I had no difficulty understanding what AHK is in the first place. Please do not talk down to me again. I do not appreciate your condescension and will not be so civil next time.
WNxFusionGamerX
11-19-2010, 09:10 PM
I'm more concerned with being unable to change the controls from WASD to the arrow keys, that and we need difficulty levels, plus of course it needs controller as an alternative option, this game has many things missing, refuse to play until fixed, got plenty of other stuff on Steam I can play, this game will die by xmas.....thats guaranteed
Cyrielx2
11-20-2010, 07:49 AM
I responded accurately to your initial comment without removing any statements from their context.
Cool story bro.
You adopted a snobbish, derisive tone and suggested that everyone should stop whining that a bog-standard, fundamentally vital feature was intentionally excluded from the PC release of this game that has been available to Xbox 360 owners for more than a year already.
Really?
I resent your elitist implication that everyone playing games on a PC needs to be a L337 script kiddie fluent in WoW slang.
That's somehow not snobbish, deresive or in any manner considered up to par behaviour?
You made 3 critical mistakes there. I never said everyone needs to be a 1337 script kiddie, nor fluent in wow slang (which, my good sir makes no ♥♥♥♥ing sense in this context) or somehow heaved myself above anyone else in this thread. I'm just pointing out that if a lot of people say the same thing because they're unhappy doesn't automatically make it any different, therefore it's best to reserve such opinions to oneself instead of polluting the forums with a snide trend of negativity.
You implied that we should all repair the game ourselves using a third-party solution that requires a not-insignificant amount of computer literacy.
Yes i did and i'm sure you've heard of google before plus i mentioned the fact there's a ready to use script with 0 knowledge required. I'm not asking you to start coding map textures for final fantasy XX.
You employed the slang "QQ" to dismiss everyone's perfectly legitimate complaints as crying, although its proper use is as a verb for quitting due to insufficient skill, especially in World of Warcraft.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=qq
1. QQ
Contrary to popular belief, QQ is not a set of crying eyes. It actually originated with the advent of Warcraft II. On battlenet, you could press ALT+Q+Q to immediately exit the match and program. Thus the term "QQ" was to tell people to just quit because they are unskilled. The term later developed and lost it's origin and is usually mistaken as crying eyes. In contemporary gamer culture, QQ has become the mainstream emoticon for crying eyes, though it is still often used in it's traditional sense.
"Shut up or QQ!"
"Why don't you QQ, noob?"
1. QQing
Used to explain someone crying
"Jeez man, quit QQing!"
Again,I'm just pointing out that if a lot of people say the same thing because they're unhappy doesn't automatically make it any different, therefore it's best to reserve such opinions to oneself instead of polluting the forums with a snide trend of negativity.
If you had read my post correctly, you would have gleaned my main point. I will repeat it for you now: The idea that the user should be responsible for bringing a product up to standards is absolutely horrible for the PC platform.
I'll correct you first.
"The idea that the user can be responsible for bringing a product up to standards is absolutely possible for the PC platform."
Your main point: You dislike not having smooth, operational analog support for a game (any game) that resembles this type of gameplay and there's nothing wrong with that, but instead of finding an alternative or compensation (AHK, others) for this lack of control, you and people that share your notion for lack of gamepad/analog support create 3-4 new topics, with the same content, with the same opinions and as far as i can see i seem to be the only person trying to offer an alternative.
Let me put it even simpler. If you keep demanding gamepad / analog support in this game like it's absolutely undeniably 100% unmissable and the game is otherwise broken, you sir are doing something wrong.
I had no difficulty understanding what AHK is in the first place. Please do not talk down to me again. I do not appreciate your condescension and will not be so civil next time.
If you believe i was talking down to you, you should stop assuming, since this is often the main reason why people get upset. Furthermore, I do not appreciate the instant gratification mentality demonstrated by many so far and i replied accordingly.
TL;DR version
Kindly stop wanting something that is not available and start finding a solution instead of contributing to the seemingly endless amount of negative statements. If you feel this game needs something extra or new, contact the developers, create a post with solid arguments and state what it is you feel makes your idea a good one in a professional manner.
That is all.
Bluppomat
11-20-2010, 02:57 PM
I wrote an email to the developers asking for a patch that enables gamepad support.
They answered this:
"Thank you for your interests in Ion Assault. We already started to upgrade the game with another patch that offers additional support for Game Controller. Unfortunately, the sale numbers dropped disastrously after the recent negative feedback. For this reason, the work on Ion Assault has finally canceled. [..]"
Maybe the thread "DON'T BUY THE GAME" could be a reason for that :)
kreed_uk
11-20-2010, 03:28 PM
I wrote an email to the developers asking for a patch that enables gamepad support.
They answered this:
"Thank you for your interests in Ion Assault. We already started to upgrade the game with another patch that offers additional support for Game Controller. Unfortunately, the sale numbers dropped disastrously after the recent negative feedback. For this reason, the work on Ion Assault has finally canceled. [..]"
Maybe the thread "DON'T BUY THE GAME" could be a reason for that :)
Maybe they had no intention what so ever to do any updates in the first place. They must have know that people would complain about the controls and already concocted the lame excuse we saw on facebook.
SapientWolf
11-21-2010, 12:40 AM
I wrote an email to the developers asking for a patch that enables gamepad support.
They answered this:
"Thank you for your interests in Ion Assault. We already started to upgrade the game with another patch that offers additional support for Game Controller. Unfortunately, the sale numbers dropped disastrously after the recent negative feedback. For this reason, the work on Ion Assault has finally canceled. [..]"
Maybe the thread "DON'T BUY THE GAME" could be a reason for that :)
I find that hard to believe. The game is still in the indie/casual top seller list.
The bizarre thing is that they had a similar issue with the XBLA launch. The original control scheme was unintuitive so they patched it months later to match traditional dual stick shooters.
Ruzgfpegk
11-21-2010, 02:45 AM
For me, there are two negative things about this game.
First, the fact that, if you have an object/enemy in your line of fire, there's only a 50% probability to hit it (the ions like to go on the side of the object) : are the hitboxes that small ? How can we know where they are ?
Then, the inertia/lag of the controls. I can't find the words to describe it, but the ship doesn't move like I want it to.
If the developers stop to work on a patch when the feedback is negative, players will most likely think of it as a betrayal, and those who bought the game will REALLY want their money back instead of waiting to be able to play the game they bought.
Theegnome
11-21-2010, 03:18 AM
Did anyone actually bother to just use the AHK script, or is this just a bunch of people QQing because they can't use their x360 gamepad?
AHK What?
Bluppomat
11-21-2010, 05:07 AM
I think they totally overestimated the number of Arcade Fans on the PC. And with less than 1000 copies sold ($9 USD each) no company would continue spending money on development/support.
But I really doubt the game would have sold _much_ better if they put the Controller support into the initial version.
Try the Survival Mode, the controls are OK there (at least much better than in campaign).
phertiker
11-21-2010, 03:00 PM
I wrote an email to the developers asking for a patch that enables gamepad support.
They answered this:
"Thank you for your interests in Ion Assault. We already started to upgrade the game with another patch that offers additional support for Game Controller. Unfortunately, the sale numbers dropped disastrously after the recent negative feedback. For this reason, the work on Ion Assault has finally canceled. [..]"
Maybe the thread "DON'T BUY THE GAME" could be a reason for that :)
Hilarious. Now I'm really disappointed that I bought their idiot game. Hey developer: you should cry more.
Dmytry
11-22-2010, 02:30 AM
ghmm. Being a developer myself I feel sorry for whatever guy developed this game... its a ton of work to make a game, even with no controller support (controller support is very little work comparing to rest of game usually, tho).
For the sales dropping, this thread has been viewed only 1 thousand times, so it can't have had significant effect. I'd say less than 50 sales lost. There's a sales peak in first few days, then it wears off.
Bluppomat
11-22-2010, 03:32 AM
Yeah, it must be pathetical for any indie developer too see that PC gamer are not even willing to pay 9$ for a game like this. Beside the issue with the Game Controller the game is well polished and offers many unique features (particles, power ups, etc.)
Also, the few reviews of the PC version were positive.
I don't how much these guys spent on developing the game, but I am pretty sure that 1000 sold copies won't even cover 10% of their expenses.
Cyrielx2
11-22-2010, 07:14 AM
Then let me be the first to say:
I like this game. I find it enjoyable and i had fun playing it, and i will continue to do so regardless of future developments.
9€ well spent imho :)
FAButzke
11-22-2010, 02:53 PM
I'm probably going to get bashed but:
If a gamepad is so important for you guys, don't you think you are playing games on the wrong platform?
Maybe you should go and buy an Xbox. Seriously.
I'm not saying "DONT ADD GAMEPAD SUPPORT!" but I really don't think that a game needs to have gamepad support just to be playable by PC Gamers.
Before someone asks: No, I didn't play it YET. But even with all this hate, I'm considering buying it.
kreed_uk
11-22-2010, 03:03 PM
I'm probably going to get bashed but:
If a gamepad is so important for you guys, don't you think you are playing games on the wrong platform?
Maybe you should go and buy an Xbox. Seriously.
I'm not saying "DONT ADD GAMEPAD SUPPORT!" but I really don't think that a game needs to have gamepad support just to be playable by PC Gamers.
Before someone asks: No, I didn't play it YET. But even with all this hate, I'm considering buying it.
Bash Bash.. The PC has supported controllers way before XBox 360 or PS3... Or do you think the only reason to game on a PC is because it uses a keyboard and mouse???
One of the joys of gaming on the PC is that it supports such a wide range of control devices so you can choose the one that you feel more comfortable with. If it was restricted to just KB and mouse then yes.. I probably would switch to the console.
I do own a PS3 by the way but haven't touched it.
ElfShotTheFood
11-22-2010, 07:41 PM
I wrote an email to the developers asking for a patch that enables gamepad support.
They answered this:
"Thank you for your interests in Ion Assault. We already started to upgrade the game with another patch that offers additional support for Game Controller. Unfortunately, the sale numbers dropped disastrously after the recent negative feedback. For this reason, the work on Ion Assault has finally canceled. [..]"
Maybe the thread "DON'T BUY THE GAME" could be a reason for that :)
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/520/1234055443685.jpg
Memphix
11-22-2010, 10:17 PM
I wrote an email to the developers asking for a patch that enables gamepad support.
They answered this:
"Thank you for your interests in Ion Assault. We already started to upgrade the game with another patch that offers additional support for Game Controller. Unfortunately, the sale numbers dropped disastrously after the recent negative feedback. For this reason, the work on Ion Assault has finally canceled. [..]"
Maybe the thread "DON'T BUY THE GAME" could be a reason for that :)
That really is a shame as it does look enjoyable, and very pretty. I do feel for them if a slight public bashing impacted sales of their game that badly, although i doubt it much, steam forums being infamous for it's droves of very vocal complainers.
TBH completely OTT thread titles that would potentially harm a product in it's opening hour should be edited. This thread doesn't open with info or opinion, it barks an order. There's plenty of room for opinion and user-info, even complaints on a product, but it's not really fair if one screamer yelling DON'T BUY dominates a fledgling sub-forum and is the first thing people see looking to read up on the game. A lot of indie relies on impulse buyers and a line that garish sticks in the head of a potential spender.
Still, it's sad that they seem to have just dropped it like a hot rock; doesn't really earn any more brownie points. The game's complete engine-wise, graphics & music all nice and shiny, surely the hard work's done and it's not much to give some control options?
Slap in some pad support, get some positive comments in response to showing product support and i reckon it could still fly. There's been plenty of positive comments too, not to mention some full-blown white knighting in it's honour.
aXis100
11-23-2010, 01:50 AM
What a let down.... I really think this is a good fun game in principle.
I bought this game for my home theatre PC as a fun coop game for parties, only to realise I'd been reading the reviews for the XBLA version. The lack of controller support and the removal of coop just beggars belief.
I don't agree that AHK scripts are a solution, they wont add back analog control and I really don't want to have to spend an hour nutting out AutoHotkey for a $10 game.
Finally, the idea that negative feedback affected their sales is bull♥♥♥♥ - if they didnt want the feedback, don't release an inferior game (compared to their own XBLA version). Actually, the PC release and advertisement on Steam specials would have had a natural short lived peak anyway.
Unfortunately, dropping this like a hot rock will now count against them the next time they release a game. People do remember developers.
aXis100
11-23-2010, 02:07 AM
PS - I just had another look and the reviews mentioned in the steam trailer (gameplanet 8/10 and eurogamer 9/10) are for the XBox version, and the ship movement in the trailer is too smooth to be WASD. No surprise why expectations weren't met.
DiceDuP
11-23-2010, 05:11 AM
Yet again another "Don't buy this game" thread. There is almost always someone who posts a thread with this title with every new PC release. Steam really should remove posts with this title, even if it is for a legitimate "opinion". Sure the OP has a point. There is no legitimate reason not to add code for a controller, if it is already coded for the xbox console it wouldn't take much time to convert it for the PC title.
As for competetive reasons? Well I think that excuse stinks, just look at a game like Beat Hazard. Top down shooter like this, and has duel stick controls for PC. Both kb/mouse and controller users compete on the leaderboards and there's no real issues.
I was going to buy this game for PC, and I agree that no controller is an issue which will likely mean I will just get it on Xbox. I'm an old timer when it comes to gaming, and there are some games that simply won't cut it without mouse and keyobard, like FPS, MMOs, RPG's, RTS and driving games. I cannot play any FPS game with a gamepad, it just doesn't feel right, but there are thousands if not millions of gamers who have only played these game types on a console and have become good players on them. But for a 2d top down shooter like this, it is such an "old school" format that a controller really should be considered.
FAButzke
11-23-2010, 07:10 AM
Bash Bash.. The PC has supported controllers way before XBox 360 or PS3... Or do you think the only reason to game on a PC is because it uses a keyboard and mouse???
One of the joys of gaming on the PC is that it supports such a wide range of control devices so you can choose the one that you feel more comfortable with. If it was restricted to just KB and mouse then yes.. I probably would switch to the console.
I do own a PS3 by the way but haven't touched it.
You seem to have missed this part of my post:
"I'm not saying "DONT ADD GAMEPAD SUPPORT!" but I really don't think that a game needs to have gamepad support just to be playable by PC Gamers."
You can read it like this: "A game shouldn't have to get this kind of hate just because it doesn't have gamepad support."
It's ALMOST as if Xbox users start complaining about games not having keyboard and mouse support. (Please, notice the ALMOST)
This is NOT gamebreaking. Could they've added gamepad support? Of course, but they did not. So just play it with a keyboard and mouse or don't play it at all. But please, it's hardly a motive to start making a big deal out of this.
This is just my opinion.
toejam
11-23-2010, 08:48 AM
ghmm. Being a developer myself I feel sorry for whatever guy developed this game... its a ton of work to make a game, even with no controller support (controller support is very little work comparing to rest of game usually, tho).
For the sales dropping, this thread has been viewed only 1 thousand times, so it can't have had significant effect. I'd say less than 50 sales lost. There's a sales peak in first few days, then it wears off.
As long as we have Devs that stick around and provide support, talk to the community, and keep updating the games, we'll have people coming in and buying games - hell just because of your post here I'm going to check out your games forum and take a looksie and see what's been happening, and give the demo a whirl.
COREPLAY
11-23-2010, 12:03 PM
Hi,
due to the fact that so many people asked for the support of Game Controllers, we will release an update for 'Ion Assault' in the next days.
The coming update fixes some minor issues like the corner desktop bug as well as adding support for Xbox360 Game Controller (or other compatible XInput Dualstick Gamepads).
I also changed the title of this thread to a more precise meaning.
Regards
Peter
(Lead Programmer, COREPLAY)
internisus
11-23-2010, 12:40 PM
Hi,
due to the fact that so many people asked for the support of Game Controllers, we will release an update for 'Ion Assault' in the next days.
The coming update fixes some minor issues like the corner desktop bug as well as adding support for Xbox360 Game Controller (or other compatible XInput Dualstick Gamepads).
I also changed the title of this thread to a more precise meaning.
Regards
Peter
(Lead Programmer, COREPLAY)
Hi, Peter. Thanks so much for listening to those who were disappointed with the game as well as hesitant would-be customers. We were concerned that COREPLAY had decided to drop all support for Ion Assault on the PC because of negative feedback and poor sales; once the issues have been resolved, I sincerely hope that you will experience a strong turnaround on that front.
I will immediately update the opening post to reflect the upcoming patch so that any shoppers coming into the forum will be informed and reassured.
I also do not mind your thread title change to "MISSING CONTROLLER SUPPORT"; after reading Memphix's argument, I have to agree that I should have been more precise. I was writing under the influence of anger and resentment at the time.
I wish you luck with the update and success in the future.
kreed_uk
11-23-2010, 12:47 PM
Hi,
due to the fact that so many people asked for the support of Game Controllers, we will release an update for 'Ion Assault' in the next days.
The coming update fixes some minor issues like the corner desktop bug as well as adding support for Xbox360 Game Controller (or other compatible XInput Dualstick Gamepads).
I also changed the title of this thread to a more precise meaning.
Regards
Peter
(Lead Programmer, COREPLAY)
Thank you very much for listening.
t4phage
11-23-2010, 07:56 PM
"t4phage now owns Ion Assault."
It makes me giddy when developers participate.
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11-23-2010, 09:18 PM
I'll purchase when the update is released, was really looking forward to Ion Assault for the pc awhile back...
Thank-you Peter(COREPLAY) for providing controller support.
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purchased today looking forward to checking it out, thanks again Peter.
best of luck in all your endeavors,
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e-head
11-24-2010, 12:07 AM
Hi,
due to the fact that so many people asked for the support of Game Controllers, we will release an update for 'Ion Assault' in the next days.
The coming update fixes some minor issues like the corner desktop bug as well as adding support for Xbox360 Game Controller (or other compatible XInput Dualstick Gamepads).
Thanks for listening! I just bought it.
Hertston
11-24-2010, 11:05 AM
Another sale here once the patch has been released.
SonicHdgTrimmer
11-25-2010, 04:38 AM
Already had ion assualt :D
Thanks for the incoming update, it'll be great
Chizu
11-25-2010, 02:39 PM
Glad they are patching it.
Will be purchasing just as soon as the update comes out.
mobius1138
11-25-2010, 10:44 PM
Purchasing it now that controller support has been confirmed.
Thanks Coreplay!
aXis100
11-26-2010, 02:56 AM
Thanks Coreplay!
Now they just need to reinstate coop support :)
needanick
01-02-2011, 12:04 AM
Not buying this game. Releasing a game that obviously favours a controller without having controller support gives me the impression the dev likes to cut corners and I don't like to support that. I see it was patched in but we're not looking at a bug or unforeseen problem here; we're talking about something as fundamental as an engine in a car. Cutting it for release was slack.
Bear in mind IA is on sale today. This would have been an EASY buy, even at the end of this massive xmas sale period, if I thought the dev was stable/making good decisions.
sorted
01-02-2011, 07:34 AM
Not buying this game. Releasing a game that obviously favours a controller without having controller support gives me the impression the dev likes to cut corners and I don't like to support that. I see it was patched in but we're not looking at a bug or unforeseen problem here; we're talking about something as fundamental as an engine in a car. Cutting it for release was slack.
Bear in mind IA is on sale today. This would have been an EASY buy, even at the end of this massive xmas sale period, if I thought the dev was stable/making good decisions.
dude,
it's a good game, a lot of devs are doing only x360 controller support for pc, however there are ezeee work arounds...
don't pass on this just on yer impression/assumptions.
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freedoms_stain
01-02-2011, 09:39 AM
Not buying this game. Releasing a game that obviously favours a controller without having controller support gives me the impression the dev likes to cut corners and I don't like to support that. I see it was patched in but we're not looking at a bug or unforeseen problem here; we're talking about something as fundamental as an engine in a car. Cutting it for release was slack.
Bear in mind IA is on sale today. This would have been an EASY buy, even at the end of this massive xmas sale period, if I thought the dev was stable/making good decisions.The developer explained their reasoning for the absence of controller support in the initial release, and although perhaps it was a valid reasoning (level playing field) I think they underestimated how many PC gamers have controllers for games that suit them these days (i.e. Ion Assault).
What you should take away from the situation is that the developer listened to the community and acted on their input. That's not lazy in my book.
frizop
01-19-2011, 04:00 PM
Any chance we can get support to move around the menus once the game has been launched? Having to pick up the mouse to hit "continue" in survival mode sort of sucks :(
kreed_uk
01-21-2011, 12:58 AM
Any chance we can get support to move around the menus once the game has been launched? Having to pick up the mouse to hit "continue" in survival mode sort of sucks :(
I'm wondering about this too.
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