This is getting pathetic..

[Lynix]

As you all know, Poker Night at the Inventory has been delayed by almost 12 hours now.. after it was supposed to be released, after being able to pre-order without knowing when it was gonna be..

It is things like this that make the gaming of the PC world slowly dying..

Sloppy companies (steam in this case) who just dont care as to wether or not it comes out on release..

Idiotic game develepors.. As example, take Call of Duty: Black Ops or Fallout: New Vegas.. Both was coded for the 360 or Ps3 and then ported over to PC in such a horrible way that both games was completely (and some still are) unplayable.

This, and then the fact that since most game are being developed for consoles and then ported for the PC, it means that the PC guys are gonna have to keep upgrading their pc again and again and again to keep up since the consoles have MUCH more CPU power.

The fact that the develepors are coding the games for the consoles, and not the pc's, and then porting them over, is probably what annoy's me more then anything.. if they were to code it for the PC and then port it to consoles, we could have SO much better graphics then we do at the moment.

Sure the PS3 have the abillity to play Blue-Ray videos in full HD, but it still has no way near the graphics capeabillities of a PC.

Someting, i dont know what, must be done to keep the PC gaming world from slowly dying.
People have been saying its been dying for ages now, and is has. If you compare pc gaming now, to pc gaming.. lets say 10-15 years ago, its so much less then what it was.

Also, for all you people saying ''Just let PC gaming die and get a console''..
I dont know if you know this, but Intel and Nvidia/ATI works VERY hard to keep the PC gaming comunity just somewhat up to date with the consoles by developing better graphic cards / processors.
If the PC gaming comunity dies, the consoles will most likely be stuck with the same ''Boring'' graphics that we have now for ATLEAST another 5-10years..


Tl;Dr Im annoyed as hell over the fact that the gaming develepers are pissing all over us by not keeping their release dates and being so horrible that they dont even bother to beta test a game (CoD).

If we dont act soon, pc gaming will die sooner then expected..

/end rant

[|MλRCO|]

Ololol "Consoles have MUCH more CPU power"

Yea right man

[h4x121]

There is nothing we as a collective can do about this, developers just don't recognize the pc gaming market like they do the console market. Piracy is rampant on the pc and there is less money in that segment of the market. If you look at the sales of AAA console titles and compare the pc counterparts you will see what I mean. The only exception to this is MMO's which really only work on the pc to begin with.

[devilsrefugee]

you complain about BO, but then you complain about poker night not being released on time. You cant have both.

If they released Poker night and it was fundamentally broken, then you would whinge, if they delay it, but release it working, you still whinge..so basically you will whinge whatever happens.

[Something Fishy]

Complaining about consoles - Poker Night


Obvious link between the two

Not a troll

[ATLbandit]

Who fed the troll?

Four people did...

[jaywizzle]

Ololol "Consoles have MUCH more CPU power"

Yea right man

that's actually a 100% truthful statement.

[Lynix]

Ololol "Consoles have MUCH more CPU power"

Yea right man

Much more CPU power, in the meaning of: Consoles dont run Dual2core or Quad core or heck, even Core7i or whatever.. They have a single 3.4 GhZ processor, which is alot more then any PC, unless you overclock it.


you complain about BO, but then you complain about poker night not being released on time. You cant have both.

If they released Poker night and it was fundamentally broken, then you would whinge, if they delay it, but release it working, you still whinge..so basically you will whinge whatever happens.

I for one, know that Poker Night at the Inventory have been finished for quiet some time now. The only reason they kept it on pre-order sale or whatever, was to sell more TF2 hats..

[GhostGrave]

Trolololol


>>>OP has two posts/no rep
>>Mad bro made account to complain about how he wants to play games designed for consoles. GOOD POST WOULD RATE AGAIN A++++++

[ATLbandit]

They have a single 3.4 GhZ processor, which is alot more then any PC, unless you overclock it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&cm_re=3.4ghz-_-19-103-727-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223&cm_re=core_i7-_-19-115-223-_-Product

Core i7 chips also throttle the speed up slightly if needed, the chip in the last link pushes to 3.4Ghz. Had to debunk your false statement with facts.

I for one, know that Poker Night at the Inventory have been finished for quiet some time now. The only reason they kept it on pre-order sale or whatever, was to sell more TF2 hats..

Proof or you're lying, or at least admit this is your opinion and not fact.

[Die_Angel]

As you all know, Poker Night at the Inventory has been delayed by almost 12 hours now.. after it was supposed to be released, after being able to pre-order without knowing when it was gonna be..

Whining doesn't solve anything kiddo.

It is things like this that make the gaming of the PC world slowly dying..

No what kills pc gaming more than anything is companies releasing canned doodoo like EA and peoples that do not buy the games they play.

Sloppy companies (steam in this case) who just dont care as to wether or not it comes out on release..

It's not that they don't care, but if you realise right before release that someone made a HUGE mistake, do you release and wait for the angry mob of gamers AND the game review sites to completely torch the game's reputation or do you postphone release for a few hours?

Idiotic game develepors.. As example, take Call of Duty: Black Ops or Fallout: New Vegas.. Both was coded for the 360 or Ps3 and then ported over to PC in such a horrible way that both games was completely (and some still are) unplayable.

When you are in the game industry, you put the money where your mouth is and you develop for the platform that will pay your employers, there isn't such a thing as loyalty to a platform. And new vegas work just fine on the PC.

This, and then the fact that since most game are being developed for consoles and then ported for the PC, it means that the PC guys are gonna have to keep upgrading their pc again and again and again to keep up since the consoles have MUCH more CPU power.

Unrelated, consoles have nowhere near the raw numbercrunching abilities of PCs. But there are BAD game ports indeed.

The fact that the develepors are coding the games for the consoles, and not the pc's, and then porting them over, is probably what annoy's me more then anything.. if they were to code it for the PC and then port it to consoles, we could have SO much better graphics then we do at the moment.

I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about graphics as long as it doesn't make my eyes bleed, i rather see more of the budget used in making a richer gameplay than prettier graphics.

Sure the PS3 have the abillity to play Blue-Ray videos in full HD, but it still has no way near the graphics capeabillities of a PC.

That's not realted it's about sales volume, console games are less pirated than PC and it touch a much bigger market.

Someting, i dont know what, must be done to keep the PC gaming world from slowly dying.
People have been saying its been dying for ages now, and is has. If you compare pc gaming now, to pc gaming.. lets say 10-15 years ago, its so much less then what it was.

If you want the PC gaming to survivee, buy all the games you play and like, that's the best way to tell the developpers "MAKE MORE OF THIS!"

Also, for all you people saying ''Just let PC gaming die and get a console''..
I dont know if you know this, but Intel and Nvidia/ATI works VERY hard to keep the PC gaming comunity just somewhat up to date with the consoles by developing better graphic cards / processors.
If the PC gaming comunity dies, the consoles will most likely be stuck with the same ''Boring'' graphics that we have now for ATLEAST another 5-10years..

You're getting carried away in your console rant/hate, what does all this has to do with poker night, a game you bought for 4 bucks that is suffering from a small delay?

[Minic78]

Buncha knowitalls waxing their own egoboats in here, I think.

[ATLbandit]

Buncha knowitalls waxing their own egoboats in here, I think.

You mean you didn't enjoy the fart smell from entering this thread?

(Threads like these are commonplace around these parts - the Steam forums)

[Lynix]

Trolololol


>>>OP has two posts/no rep
>>Mad bro made account to complain about how he wants to play games designed for consoles. GOOD POST WOULD RATE AGAIN A++++++

Did not even bother to check the ''Join date'' did you now? Go back to 4 chan and troll /b/ or something..



Core i7 chips also throttle the speed up slightly if needed, the chip in the last link pushes to 3.4Ghz. Had to debunk your false statement with facts.

Did not know that, i stand corrected. However, i've seen people with Core i7 processors having problems with CoD. But besides, if the games was coded for PC and ported to consoles, this would'nt be a problem. Since no developer in their right mind would make a game that requires you to have the BEST possible processor..

Proof or you're lying, or at least admit this is your opinion and not fact.

Yes, its my opinion. But i can not in any way see why it would'nt be to sell more TF2 hats.. I know im gonna be stepping alot of people on the toes by saying this, but im guessing that about 50% of the people even bothering to look at this game is for the TF2 hats / weapons.. Heck, even i wouldent have found it if it was'nt because they promoted it with TF2 hats..

[Deathomen456]

Did not even bother to check the ''Join date'' did you now? Go back to 4 chan and troll /b/ or something..

rules 1&2
trollface.jpg

Did not know that, i stand corrected. However, i've seen people with Core i7 processors having problems with CoD. But besides, if the games was coded for PC and ported to consoles, this would'nt be a problem. Since no developer in their right mind would make a game that requires you to have the BEST possible processor..

i have an i7, zero CoD problems
basically means they suck and need to patch it so the lesser CPUs can touch it

Yes, its my opinion. But i can not in any way see why it would'nt be to sell more TF2 hats.. I know im gonna be stepping alot of people on the toes by saying this, but im guessing that about 50% of the people even bothering to look at this game is for the TF2 hats / weapons.. Heck, even i wouldent have found it if it was'nt because they promoted it with TF2 hats..


i got it for poker, tf2 items = bonus
but yeah, i think they added the items to up sales
cuz they knew otherwise they'd flop pretty hard

[Boe-Os]

You do realise most Games made For consoles that get ported over to Pc. Make PC's chug because the games are actually poorly optimised and have sloppy programming. Not because Pcs cant handle the Processing what a console does.

[Gargaj]

You do realise most Games made For consoles that get ported over to Pc. Make PC's shug because the games are actually poorly optimised and have sloppy programming. Not because Pcs cant handle the Processing what a console does.
Are you working as a code-reviewer for a major game company, by any means?

[Kiko]

Much more CPU power, in the meaning of: Consoles dont run Dual2core or Quad core or heck, even Core7i or whatever.. They have a single 3.4 GhZ processor, which is alot more then any PC, unless you overclock it..
I'm pretty sure you could easily get a dual/quad core 3.4 GHz processor. for a PC.

[TheSisko]

You do realise most Games made For consoles that get ported over to Pc. Make PC's chug because the games are actually poorly optimised and have sloppy programming. Not because Pcs cant handle the Processing what a console does.

This. When you can have games like Crysis which run far better than some console ports is telling enough about the bad optimizations. Most of the time the PC port of a console game is an afterthought and because of this they get to a barely out of beta milestone and publish it and hope to fix the issues via patches.

It is really not that hard to look at PC exclusives or games with PC as the primary platform and see how a game feels when its optimized for the hardware. Things like proper multi-threading or even newer support for apis (OpenGL 3.x ,DirectX10/11, OpenCL, DirectCompute, etc) or multi-monitor support can go long way.

[ATLbandit]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&cm_re=3.4ghz-_-19-103-727-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223&cm_re=core_i7-_-19-115-223-_-Product


I'm pretty sure you could easily get a dual/quad core 3.4 GHz processor. for a PC.

I posted some

[AmerikanRejekt]

rules 1&2
trollface.jpg


Only applies to raids, newfag.

[TheSisko]

I'm pretty sure you could easily get a dual/quad core 3.4 GHz processor. for a PC.

People have been overclocking well beyond that since 2006 on Core2 CPUs also. You also need to consider that gigahertz alone doesn't dictate performance and you can't compare speed from one CPU architecture type to another. Xbox360 uses a IBM PowerPC not an Intel based CPU, which according to some developer interviews place it at equivalent speed to a 2.4Ghz core2.

[Psykosmile]

http://kotaku.com/5674097/the-many-many-deaths-of-pc-gaming

[flomin]

You guys all seem to forget this game should be released for almost THREE days already. It isnt just a delay of one day...The release day has been previously changed from 20 november to "november" and later on into 22 november.

[turley714]

ROFL consoles have much move cpu power. I quit reading there. Oh, have you tried crying?

[Tradatron]

Ololol "Consoles have MUCH more CPU power"

Yea right man

Cut him some slack, maybe HE'S does.

On topic:

You turned a simple rant about a 3d game of texas hold em into a gigantic rant about PC games dieing?

I'm not sure you know this but for a few years now the patient, in this case the PC gaming scene, has been resuscitated and is alive and well, simply not the goliath it once was.

[Nerdfighter]

Only applies to raids, newfag.
Okay.

I mad.

The rules of the internet were put in place by new♥♥♥♥ from a social media site called Gaia. The rules in and of itself are fagotry and cancer, when used directly to belittle the /b/rothers.

In no way should they be seriously undertaken in an effort to rule the internet. In fact, earlier I was talking to my so called "friends" about this same thing after playing some b-ball. But they got mad and started causing a lot of trouble in my neighborhood. I mean, I got in one fight and then my mom got scared: She told me I was moving in with my auntie and my uncle in Bel-Air.

[furrykef]

You guys all seem to forget this game should be released for almost THREE days already. It isnt just a delay of one day...The release day has been previously changed from 20 november to "november" and later on into 22 november.
The official release date was never November 20.

[gamefreak010]

Lynix chill man! The world isn't gonna perish in a fiery disaster because the game developers wanted to make sure everything was in ship shape so they could release it to the public without having their heads eaten off.

[EtherBunny]

Complaining about a game being delayed for 12 hoursÉ Wow... that IS pretty pathetic. >.>

[JayShadow]

As you all know, Poker Night at the Inventory has been delayed by almost 12 hours now.. You need to complain about the correct things. Game wasn't delayed. The Steam people were lazy in putting in the date and not the time, so it defaulted to midnight in their time zone.

Although common sense really should have kicked in for some people. A casual poker game isn't gonna get a midnight release.

You guys all seem to forget this game should be released for almost THREE days already. It isnt just a delay of one day...The release day has been previously changed from 20 november to "november" and later on into 22 november.That's also incorrect. Someone looked at the coming soon list on the store and "November 2010" had the 10 cut off the end due to formatting. They then declared that it must mean it's coming the 20th, which makes no sense because that's a Saturday. They then corrected themselves immediately and no one bothered to listen.

[Ydwyrd]

They have a single 3.4 GhZ processor, which is alot more then any PC, unless you overclock it.

My PC runs a single core Pentium 4 3.80GHz. And I know for a fact that they make processors for PC significantly more powerful than that.

[Planeforger]

I didn't notice anyone mentioning this, but Fallout New Vegas is a hell of a lot more stable on the PC than on the consoles - I've played it for almost 50 hours, max settings on my decent gaming laptop and haven't had a single crash or framerate issue. It's even more stable than Fallout 3 was.

Anyway, I don't see the connection between all of the ranty things, nor have Telltale missed their release date. The only issue is that Steam was using a placeholder date for their countdown, and anyone who's ever preordered a game before should know to take those with a grain of salt.

[Zyurat]

Gah, stop trolling. He's right in some things.

+Rep for this good sir.

[x0raclex]

Wow...you all got trolled.

[I.M. Meen]

What's that? A single player Poker game got delayed by a few hours?

♥♥♥♥ man, it's all over. PC gaming is dead.

[baneat]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&cm_re=3.4ghz-_-19-103-727-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223&cm_re=core_i7-_-19-115-223-_-Product

Core i7 chips also throttle the speed up slightly if needed, the chip in the last link pushes to 3.4Ghz. Had to debunk your false statement with facts.



Proof or you're lying, or at least admit this is your opinion and not fact.

Can you use an actual computing benchmark, like Floating Point ops/s

[Sho Minamimoto]

...have to keep upgrading their pc again and again and again to keep up since the consoles have MUCH more CPU power.



The Xbox 360 has a tri-core processor clocked to 3.2 gigahertz. PS3 has something. Other then that, everything else is pretty much ♥♥♥♥ty.

[Munkee79]

Much more CPU power, in the meaning of: Consoles dont run Dual2core or Quad core or heck, even Core7i or whatever.. They have a single 3.4 GhZ processor, which is alot more then any PC, unless you overclock it.

My single 3.5 GHz processor on a 4-year old machine says hi.

[911Donkey]

...since the consoles have MUCH more CPU power.

My i7 920 quad-core with hyper-threading, turbo-boost and 2.67 GHz per core would like to have a word with you.

[Fire2box]

My system is comprised of


2.2 GHz dual core
8800GT (512 MB of memory)
2 GB of Ram

yet Fallout 3 and New Vegas run better on my PC the the 360 or PS3. All of my components are more then 3 years old, hell possibly 4 now. Yet if a game is well optimuized for the PC, my computer still and will always kick the 360/ PS3 to the curb.

[jayg20769]

that's actually a 100% truthful statement.

There is no truthiness in that statement.

Much more CPU power, in the meaning of: Consoles dont run Dual2core or Quad core or heck, even Core7i or whatever.. They have a single 3.4 GhZ processor, which is alot more then any PC, unless you overclock it.


Most gaming PC's run at 4 GHz. (overclocked, but many run at 3.3 GHz stock) Also a common misconception is that GHz is the end-all decision in power. Different companies use vastly different architectures, such as AMD with their Athlon series and Intel using tons of different architectures for their CPUs. The fact of the matter is that 2.7 GHz in one architecture can be equivalent or even better than 3.0 GHz in another.

[AmerikanRejekt]

Okay.

I mad.

The rules of the internet were put in place by new♥♥♥♥ from a social media site called Gaia. The rules in and of itself are fagotry and cancer, when used directly to belittle the /b/rothers.

In no way should they be seriously undertaken in an effort to rule the internet. In fact, earlier I was talking to my so called "friends" about this same thing after playing some b-ball. But they got mad and started causing a lot of trouble in my neighborhood. I mean, I got in one fight and then my mom got scared: She told me I was moving in with my auntie and my uncle in Bel-Air.

Who's being serious? I certainly wasn't. I was merely correcting him in his state of ineptitude. Yes, no one should actually follow those rules, for they're all a bunch of BS to begin with.

I was just ♥♥♥♥ing with him. :D

Nice finish to your response, though. Lol.

[Vaskre]

Xbox 360: Tri-core 3.2 GHz Xenon
"Way more CPU power."

[ATLbandit]

Can you use an actual computing benchmark, like Floating Point ops/s

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=core+i7+turbo+boost+benchmarks :p

[Cimlite]

CPU clock speed is not the only factor when it comes to how fast it works. A Pentium 4 from 5 years ago working at 2ghz is nowhere near a newer Core2Duo working at the same clock speed.

The consoles are nowhere near a relativly new PC in terms of processing power. The graphics cards in them are almost 2 or even 3 generations behind what PCs now has. Both the PS3 and the 360 have a measly 512mb of RAM total, which is nothing compared to a PC (which usually has 4gb> RAM + 512mb on the graphics card nowadays).

In terms of gaming all of this is sort of moot though since there aren't really being made any games that push PCs all that hard (like Crysis did a few years ago). Where you can use all that great PC hardware is in stuff like higher resolution with anti-aliasing (something usually missing on consoles entirely now) or playing games in true 3D.

Just saying, don't confuse the fact that there are not that many PC that pushes PC hardware to the edge with the idea of "consoles are just as powerful". They are nowhere close in terms of power if you compare to a modern computer.

[Fox150]

cool blog post yo.

[Fieldmarshall3]

consoles have MUCH more CPU power.

PCs are way ahead of consoles in terms of cpu power alone nowdays.
And lets not mention the rest of the specs...

Fallout: New Vegas.. Both was coded for the 360 or Ps3 and then ported over to PC in such a horrible way that both games was completely (and some still are) unplayable.

Are you effing me? Im happy to agree and rant along how consoles are screwing us over and holding back gaming development,
but you have obviously never played a bad console port.

On some of them you cant even remap keys. And almost all of them have a hardcoded tunnelvision fov...

[paingiver00]

Much more CPU power, in the meaning of: Consoles dont run Dual2core or Quad core or heck, even Core7i or whatever.. They have a single 3.4 GhZ processor, which is alot more then any PC, unless you overclock it.


So consoles have 3.4 Ghz processor, so what. U know what dual and quad mean right? Dual mean x2 while quad mean x4. Therefore, A Core i7 quad 2.40 Ghz = 2.40 x 4 = 9.6 Ghz. So how is computers are slower then console.

[Callahassee]

since the consoles have MUCH more CPU power.


get a better machine and stop whining like a ♥♥♥♥♥...just a thought

[Spectlaser]

that's actually a 100% truthful statement.

No. The PowerPC processors used in the 360 and PS3 have a lot of power in specialized applications, but modern x86 CPUs wipe the floor with them in general purpose apps.

A Core i7 is much better in games than a Cell.

Oh yeah, also, PCs in general are much more powerful than consoles even at those specialized floating point applications they're so good at. Just look at the Folding at Home stats for proof of this.

With 20301 processors, NVIDIA GPUs are doing 3228 teraflops.
With 28613 processors, PS3s are doing 807 teraflops.

[Lynix]

Just returned from the movies.

Reading through all of these replies makes me think.. Is it possible that anyone could acturally read what i wrote instead of just skimming it and going ''LOLNUBCONSOLEMORECPULOLOLOLOLCOREi7SAYSHI''

True, the PC have an overall better CPU, GPU, RAM and Graphics card.. EVERYTHING is better about a Computer compared to Consoles..

However as i said, most games these days are being coded for the CONSOLES. Coded for consoles and then ported for the PC.

As i said, because the consoles are so limited with their specs, no customization of any kind of whatever, it limits the developers to create games with graphics that we have been able to upgrade 10 times if only atleast 50% of the games was coded for consoles and then ported..

Not only graphic wise, but also because they have so little RAM and rely so much on the CPU (single-core), some developers make big mistakes, HUGE mistakes.. I mean look at Black ops..
How many of you people know a person who run Black ops perfectly smooth on a Core2Duo processor?

If the games were to be coded on PC, it would mean that it would be balanced way more then it is already spec wise.
For people saying i should get a new machine.. i know my computer aint the best in the world, but it should damn well do the trick to atleast 90% of the games out there.


My other point was.

Game developers and companies seem to have just gotten it into their mind that they can release non-working games and get a way with it.. And sadly, we let them..

CoD (I know i use it as a big argument, but bare with me) is a product with MILLIONS of clients playing it everyday, and when they make such a huge mistake and the comunity is just defending them by saying ''Dont worry, they will patch it'' or ''Buy a better computer then'' that means gaming, overall, is dying more and more..

Since we expect less and less of them by saying ''Oh yeah, well fallout 3 was also very buggy before the first patch, new vegas will be perfect after the patch'' and i know people who still lagg..

Anyways, i dont know if you can tell by my long replies, im not ''trolling''. I just think this was the last drop for me concerning gaming. Late releases, buggy gameplay etc. etc.