Why do we buy at steam?

[boneless288]

Why do you buy your games at steam, at first I tought I was handy, fast, didnt have to leave the house, but I'm totally anoyed by steam now;

-Stop auto launching every thing, stop anoying me WITH ♥♥♥♥ING COMMERCIALS, I ♥♥♥♥ing buy games at your store not to turn my freaking PC into a bill board
-MAKE YOUR ♥♥♥♥ WORK! I've bough a dvd of cod4, lost it, bought it at steam, booldy thing is freezing all the time, never had that with the DVD version
-black ops, runs bloody auwfull
-software is more expensive
-No responce to support request tickets
-Why the hell can't I choose where what game is installed
-Why is it, that when I close the steam process my games won't run?
-Why do I, when I clicked 'mulity player', and the game launches, have to select mulity player AGAIN, is it so f*cking hard to make a proper launcher?

HOW THE HELL DO I GET MY MONEY BACK, I FEEL LIKE I'm RIPPED OFF you guys eather get my games working properly or refund me

:mad::mad:

[MARKO94EVERSERB]

This is so sad,now you blame it on steam and half of those things that you mentioned like advertisement can be disabled or auto updating you just need a brain.You are dumb,end of story.When all else fails you blame it on steam.Don't be that low.

[shane3x]

@Mark

I would say that the OP might not be the worded the best but Steam isn't exactly something to defend.

For example, I log into steam today click play on Black ops and then it tells me Steam needs to be running in order for the game to play, right.

I'm sure others can provide many examples where Steam Fails, but it does have it's good points too.

[C4Chaos42]

Steam works fine for me. As for the ads, they can be disabled and a lot of things can be customized.

[Slaybells]

You know that Treyarch is the problem right? "Steam" didn't develop the game. For that matter, neither did Valve.

[Mojito123]

You know that Treyarch is the problem right? "Steam" didn't develop the game. For that matter, neither did Valve.

Treyarch is the developer, the make the game(s), in this case BO, for Activision. They follow Activision's rules/conditions.

If Activision says make the game to run on steam like MW2, then they will, if they want the game to run in a specific manner, they have to do so. There is an agreement between them, somethings have to be carried out from MW2 (example) and some things can be tweaked.

[spidypiet]

first off all i dont buy my games from steam
steam for me is just a requiert 3th party game launcher
its not something off my choice but its forced to even run a game

and dont say its handy if you want to play the game on another PC
if the game isnt on that pc you have to download 8 gb
on a regular 20mb line that will cost one hour or more
before you even can play
instead of a 5-10 min manual disc install

[DC Inferno]

Steam is one of the best things to have happened to PC gaming. It was godawful when it first out but it's great now. It has some silly bugs but they're working on them.

Improved my pc gaming experience a crapton ever since counterstrike and before. Used to have to use Xfire for everything.

Good work valve.

[MoNoXiDe]

Cause steam pwns.

[RobCivicCRX]

Steam is one of the worst things ever, for people who are too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to download patches without being handed them. It stops no piracy at all and is far over priced on pretty much everything.

Steam = fail, it only gets used because games force you to use it.

[darrell87]

Steam = fail, it only gets used because games force you to use it.
so why are you even in this forum?

I remember when Steam used to be a crap, everybody complained about everything, and now it works great, so shut up dude nobody cares.

[RobCivicCRX]

so why are you even in this forum?

I remember when Steam used to be a crap, everybody complained about everything, and now it works great, so shut up dude nobody cares.

Because I look in here now and then to see how BO is coming along, still pretty borked (not steams fault I know).

I see you are one of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥'s who cannot download a patch or update without being spoonfed it.

[Apotex]

I agree that the games are to expensive on steam. Don't really understand why, but you can often find it cheaper in retail stores. Doesn't make much sense, that you can get it cheaper while they have to take in manufactering cost of everything + shipping it.

[MoNoXiDe]

idk i been with steam since 2003 b4 they even sold games it was cs 1.6 and since then it has never failed me....guess i am just lucky.

[smothersinch]

Why do you buy your games at steam, at first I tought I was handy, fast, didnt have to leave the house, but I'm totally anoyed by steam now;

-Stop auto launching every thing, stop anoying me WITH ♥♥♥♥ING COMMERCIALS, I ♥♥♥♥ing buy games at your store not to turn my freaking PC into a bill board
-MAKE YOUR ♥♥♥♥ WORK! I've bough a dvd of cod4, lost it, bought it at steam, booldy thing is freezing all the time, never had that with the DVD version
-black ops, runs bloody auwfull
-software is more expensive
-No responce to support request tickets
-Why the hell can't I choose where what game is installed
-Why is it, that when I close the steam process my games won't run?
-Why do I, when I clicked 'mulity player', and the game launches, have to select mulity player AGAIN, is it so f*cking hard to make a proper launcher?

HOW THE HELL DO I GET MY MONEY BACK, I FEEL LIKE I'm RIPPED OFF you guys eather get my games working properly or refund me

:mad::mad:

1) Auto launching what? I occasionally get the one popup for their new sales. Takes less than a second to close.

2) My COD4 works fine, though I dunno why I still have it installed.

3) Black Ops runs bad because Treyarch screwed up, not Steam/Valve.

4) Steam has great sales all the time. Nothing is overpriced compared to most other places when they are not on sale. I have quite a few great games I bought for under 5 or 10 dollars.

5) Steam/Valve only offer support on THEIR software(the Steam client, TF2, ect). What are you trying to get support for?

6) You CAN install Steam to another location, like another hard drive, then all your games are installed there. really I don't see the problem with this. If everything installs to the same place you don't have to hunt down each and every install.

7) You are using their platform to launch all your purchased games.

8) You're obviously clicking the wrong launcher. I don't have that problem, nor have I seen anybody else with that problem.

9) See answer 5. Game issues are not Steam/Valve's responsibility. They are a distribution platform. If you buy a game at any retail store, is it their fault the game doesn't run properly on your machine?

[raptor]

Its easy 2 purchase normally cheap and good community ♥♥♥♥ - also popular stop qqin

[raptor]

Why do you buy your games at steam, at first I tought I was handy, fast, didnt have to leave the house, but I'm totally anoyed by steam now;

-Stop auto launching every thing, stop anoying me WITH ♥♥♥♥ING COMMERCIALS, I ♥♥♥♥ing buy games at your store not to turn my freaking PC into a bill board
-MAKE YOUR ♥♥♥♥ WORK! I've bough a dvd of cod4, lost it, bought it at steam, booldy thing is freezing all the time, never had that with the DVD version
-black ops, runs bloody auwfull
-software is more expensive
-No responce to support request tickets
-Why the hell can't I choose where what game is installed
-Why is it, that when I close the steam process my games won't run?
-Why do I, when I clicked 'mulity player', and the game launches, have to select mulity player AGAIN, is it so f*cking hard to make a proper launcher?

HOW THE HELL DO I GET MY MONEY BACK, I FEEL LIKE I'm RIPPED OFF you guys eather get my games working properly or refund me

:mad::mad:

OMG ALL THAT ♥♥♥♥ I JUST READ THERE IS A LOAD OF CRAP SORRY AT THE END - HOW THE HELL DO I GET MY MONEY BACK, I FEEL LIKE I'm RIPPED OFF you guys eather get my games working properly or refund me
WTF DUDE HAVE YOU EVER BOUGHT A GAME FROM UMMM THE SHOPS?? THEY DONT GIVE REFUNDS FOR PC GAMES - STOP BLAMING STEAM FOR STUFF THEY HAVNT DONE LITTLE BOY!

[zezzex]

steam has been my perfered method of buying games for the last 6 years. I have 63 games, and have never had any problems with steam running my games...but then again I know a thing or two about computers, and know what I'm doing.

[Kainami]

first off all i dont buy my games from steam
steam for me is just a requiert 3th party game launcher
its not something off my choice but its forced to even run a game

Do the developers really care what you want is? They didnt want to make a friend system (probably due to laziness) and integrate it or make a game initializer, so Steam was contracted to do it. Plus, developers don't need to write anti-cheating scripts either, because they could just get Steam to do it (at a price).

and dont say its handy if you want to play the game on another PC
if the game isnt on that pc you have to download 8 gb
on a regular 20mb line that will cost one hour or more
before you even can play
instead of a 5-10 min manual disc install
You can still use a manual disc install with Steam and then have Steam download the patches right after.

[Chibito]

I buy games on Steam because it's fast, easy and it's convenient to launch all my games from a single list. It's also simple to check for interesting games in the store. Haven't really had any problems with Steam, other than that it doesn't really make sense to me how much more expensive some games are on there, but I can just buy them somewhere else.

[Ecaz]

I've never had any problems with Steam.

If you don't like it don't use it, simple as that.
If you want a steam only game well ♥♥♥♥ing bare with it.

[Mudkipz2]

-Stop auto launching every thing, stop anoying me WITH ♥♥♥♥ING COMMERCIALS, I ♥♥♥♥ing buy games at your store not to turn my freaking PC into a bill board
This can be disabled.
-MAKE YOUR ♥♥♥♥ WORK! I've bough a dvd of cod4, lost it, bought it at steam, booldy thing is freezing all the time, never had that with the DVD version
This isn't steams fault
-black ops, runs bloody auwfull
See previous rebuttal
-software is more expensive
So why didn't you?
-No responce to support request tickets
Yes they do. They just respond during holidays (i.e thanksgiving -_-)
-Why the hell can't I choose where what game is installed
You choose where games are installed when you chose where steam was installed
-Why is it, that when I close the steam process my games won't run?
Because steam is a form of DRM. Why would you want to close it anyway..
-Why do I, when I clicked 'mulity player', and the game launches, have to select mulity player AGAIN, is it so f*cking hard to make a proper launcher?
Again.. why not steams fault

[soldier1969]

I personally love it

* No need for a physical disc anymore.
* No need to find and manually update the patches, use to hate that.
* Pay no taxes on purchases like in retail.
* Only takes a hour or two to download (85mbs down speed helps).
* You can download your games to any computer anywhere forever.
* Sales go one all the time if you missed a game months prior.
* Dont have to leave your chair launch most games from taskbar.
* Easily go back and get your purchased games after an upgrade like I make yearly.

Just my 2 cents.

[So's_your_face]

I see you are one of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥'s who cannot download a patch or update without being spoonfed it.

I could walk the five miles to the store, but it's easier to drive. Auto patching is a logical advancement in gaming. Don't fight the future! Join Steam or you will be assimilated!

[SIFU]

Only bad thing in all my years with steam would have to be once or twice on startup,i lost the net an it kept tryin to connect to my account,so i had to reset a couple times,tell the run in offline option came up.

oh an to the guy thats said it sucks cuz you need to redownload it on other pc,steam can make ,an compress backups that you can put on disc,after your first install,then you dont need to wait for hours:)

[Borat Sagdiyev]

I'm sorry, but steam is the perfect solution for me..
in my country games cost alot more then they cost in steam
example:
Cod BO on steam:60$
in my country:80$
and old games cost alot aswell
and you can get old games on steam for under 5 dollars..
and steam works great for me, never have any glitches
after the last patch my game runs great...
btw its alot easier to reach online friends through steam

[Goatman455]

Why do you buy your games at steam, at first I tought I was handy, fast, didnt have to leave the house, but I'm totally anoyed by steam now;

-Stop auto launching every thing, stop anoying me WITH ♥♥♥♥ING COMMERCIALS, I ♥♥♥♥ing buy games at your store not to turn my freaking PC into a bill board
-MAKE YOUR ♥♥♥♥ WORK! I've bough a dvd of cod4, lost it, bought it at steam, booldy thing is freezing all the time, never had that with the DVD version
-black ops, runs bloody auwfull
-software is more expensive
-No responce to support request tickets
-Why the hell can't I choose where what game is installed
-Why is it, that when I close the steam process my games won't run?
-Why do I, when I clicked 'mulity player', and the game launches, have to select mulity player AGAIN, is it so f*cking hard to make a proper launcher?

HOW THE HELL DO I GET MY MONEY BACK, I FEEL LIKE I'm RIPPED OFF you guys eather get my games working properly or refund me

:mad::mad:


Convenience, and Steam will continue to rip off customers as long as we allow them to.

[Shelledfade2]

these problems aren't because of steam. You can disable steam cloud all you want and it isn't going to make any difference.

Also, I've had great steam support. You should blame activision if you want support for black ops as they are in control not steam.


I like steam for several reasons. No reason to bash steam though. If you want to bash someone then bash treyarch or activision

[Teh Caek]

-MAKE YOUR poop WORK! I've bough a dvd of cod4, lost it, bought it at steam, booldy thing is freezing all the time, never had that with the DVD version

Not Steam nor Valve's fault.


-black ops, runs bloody auwfull

Not Steam nor Valve's fault.


-software is more expensive

Neither Steam or Valve decides the price on games they didnt make.


-No responce to support request tickets

You're impatient.


-Why the hell can't I choose where what game is installed

So you know where the files are perhaps.


-Why is it, that when I close the steam process my games won't run?

Because you bought them on Steam.


-Why do I, when I clicked 'mulity player', and the game launches, have to select mulity player AGAIN, is it so f*cking hard to make a proper launcher?

I do not know of this "mulity player".
But theres a seperate launcher for each if you would look around.


-HOW THE HELL DO I GET MY MONEY BACK, I FEEL LIKE I'm RIPPED OFF you guys eather get my games working properly or refund me

You dont. And you are not.



Pretty much.

[The_Musician]

-Stop auto launching every thing, stop anoying me WITH ♥♥♥♥ING COMMERCIALS, I ♥♥♥♥ing buy games at your store not to turn my freaking PC into a bill board
It's a business. They can advertise. You know you can disable them right?
-MAKE YOUR ♥♥♥♥ WORK! I've bough a dvd of cod4, lost it, bought it at steam, booldy thing is freezing all the time, never had that with the DVD version
Not steam's fault
-black ops, runs bloody auwfull
Not steams fault
-software is more expensive
UK
-No responce to support request tickets
Never had this problem
-Why the hell can't I choose where what game is installed
You've never looked for the options have you
-Why is it, that when I close the steam process my games won't run?
You must be joking
-Why do I, when I clicked 'mulity player', and the game launches, have to select mulity player AGAIN, is it so f*cking hard to make a proper launcher?
I lol'd you're ignorant

[God!]

Why do you buy your games at steam, at first I tought I was handy, fast, didnt have to leave the house, but I'm totally anoyed by steam now;

-Stop auto launching every thing, stop anoying me WITH ♥♥♥♥ING COMMERCIALS, I ♥♥♥♥ing buy games at your store not to turn my freaking PC into a bill board
-MAKE YOUR ♥♥♥♥ WORK! I've bough a dvd of cod4, lost it, bought it at steam, booldy thing is freezing all the time, never had that with the DVD version
-black ops, runs bloody auwfull
-software is more expensive
-No responce to support request tickets
-Why the hell can't I choose where what game is installed
-Why is it, that when I close the steam process my games won't run?
-Why do I, when I clicked 'mulity player', and the game launches, have to select mulity player AGAIN, is it so f*cking hard to make a proper launcher?

HOW THE HELL DO I GET MY MONEY BACK, I FEEL LIKE I'm RIPPED OFF you guys eather get my games working properly or refund me

:mad::mad:

Steam is the best retailer out there I rest easy knowing that my money is going to the greatest game developers of all time

[aido727]

I am sorry sir but you are an idiot that does not understand how any kind of software works.

-Stop auto launching every thing, stop anoying me WITH ♥♥♥♥ING COMMERCIALS, I ♥♥♥♥ing buy games at your store not to turn my freaking PC into a bill board
Ads can be disabled. This is YOUR FAULT
-MAKE YOUR ♥♥♥♥ WORK! I've bough a dvd of cod4, lost it, bought it at steam, booldy thing is freezing all the time, never had that with the DVD version
This is strange but could likely be CoD4's fault just as much.
-black ops, runs bloody auwfull
This is BlackOps fault
-software is more expensive
Then go away and buy games there?
-No responce to support request tickets
I have fairly quick replies personally. Remember there are A LOT of tickets filed all the time. Chances are if they never reply then you didn't ask anything that required a support ticket to start with.
-Why the hell can't I choose where what game is installed
You can choose where Steam is installed. All games then install within that folder. Just put Steam where you want your games in the first place.
-Why is it, that when I close the steam process my games won't run?
Because games on Steam require Steam to run. If you kill Steam then you can not use Steam games... seriously do you understand basic logic?
-Why do I, when I clicked 'mulity player', and the game launches, have to select mulity player AGAIN, is it so f*cking hard to make a proper launcher?
Which particular game are you even referring to here? One thing I can 100% guarantee on this issue however is that it's not Steam's fault, it is the game in question.

I'm sure there are a ton of replies similar to this but I'm not going to read through them all as I expect they also have much the same answers, but you have fun with them all :D

[aido727]

and dont say its handy if you want to play the game on another PC
if the game isnt on that pc you have to download 8 gb
on a regular 20mb line that will cost one hour or more
before you even can play
instead of a 5-10 min manual disc install

You know you can do a backup of the entire game and just copy/paste the files to any other computer with Steam and then install from harddrive... it's even faster than from a CD/DVD!

Does NO ONE actually do anything for them self anymore?
Can you guys at least GOOGLE before complaining here, cos it's getting sad. Just cos it isn't immediately obvious does not make something non-existent or wrong somehow.

[Staticenz]

Steam is awesome.

Treyarch sucks (atm).

You are fail.

/thread

[judas1878]

Nah, Steam is overbloated bull♥♥♥♥ end of. I understand you people who buy direct from Steam and always have defending it. But to have it forced on me in a game I bought from the shop is a total joke.

[wisertime]

I never buy on Steam. I prefer having a hard copy for so many reasons (esp since I can resell it if the game sucks).
Steam also doesn't unlock til 9 hrs after a new release.

I would buy one of the highly discounted games if there was one I wanted to try, but that is it. There is no discount for buying DLDC either, which is BS. Buying it only reinforces the high prices, so I won't partake.

I was happy with Xfire and don't like being required to use steam. And if Steam goes down, I can't play COD, which is BS.

THen there is the joke that is VAC. nuff said.

[WrghMoof]

I love Steam :D
Admin on my buddy list xD

[smothersinch]

This thread appears to be full of two different groups of people.

Those like the OP, who are apparently new to pc gaming and have never heard of Steam before now. Possibly coming over from a console and are used to the "now, now, now" mentality.


And the rest of us. Those that have been around for a while, or are at least used to pc gaming. Those of us who know the ins and outs of services like Steam, Direct2Drive, or Games For Windows.

[smothersinch]

I never buy on Steam. I prefer having a hard copy for so many reasons (esp since I can resell it if the game sucks).
Steam also doesn't unlock til 9 hrs after a new release.

I would buy one of the highly discounted games if there was one I wanted to try, but that is it. There is no discount for buying DLDC either, which is BS. Buying it only reinforces the high prices, so I won't partake.

I was happy with Xfire and don't like being required to use steam. And if Steam goes down, I can't play COD, which is BS.

THen there is the joke that is VAC. nuff said.

VAC isn't a joke. It's a different style than Punkbuster sure. Would you prefer we had nothing?

[streather]

-Stop auto launching every thing, stop anoying me WITH ♥♥♥♥ING COMMERCIALS, I ♥♥♥♥ing buy games at your store not to turn my freaking PC into a bill board
-MAKE YOUR ♥♥♥♥ WORK! I've bough a dvd of cod4, lost it, bought it at steam, booldy thing is freezing all the time, never had that with the DVD version
-black ops, runs bloody auwfull
-software is more expensive
-No responce to support request tickets
-Why the hell can't I choose where what game is installed
-Why is it, that when I close the steam process my games won't run?
-Why do I, when I clicked 'mulity player', and the game launches, have to select mulity player AGAIN, is it so f*cking hard to make a proper launcher?


Translated "I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW STEAM WORKS AND IT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY!!"

1) Steam settings > interface > until notify me about new games etc, enjoy

2) Steam is a delivery service, they can't fix an issue with 3rd party games, moan at activision for that.

3) See 2

4) Valve don't set the prices for games on steam the publishers do

5) i agree there, but a quick google search usually comes up with a result

6) Why would you want to? unless your running out of space and have more than 1 hard drive

7) depends on the game, some use steam to authenticate properly, might as well ask why windows stops working if you kill explorer.exe

8) see 2.

[OrangeNinja]

Steam is awesome.

You are fail.

/thread

My thoughts P:
go away

[swoop223]

Steam would have been great if the prices were fixed.

Example a physical copy dvd, booklet, cover art etc should ALWAYS be more expensive then a digital copy, but that's not the case on steam and other vendors.

I know some of you "fans" claim's it's not steams fault, but what ever.

Your typical steam user: lolfailomgwinftw = they can't accept anything negative about their love for valve.

[swoop223]

Steam is awesome.

Treyarch sucks (atm).

You are fail.

/thread

I pity guys like you, guys who are probably adults but doesn't know how to properly write a response.

I'm sure your entire life can be summed up with one word as well: FAI*

[judas1878]

This thread appears to be full of two different groups of people.

Those like the OP, who are apparently new to pc gaming and have never heard of Steam before now. Possibly coming over from a console and are used to the "now, now, now" mentality.


And the rest of us. Those that have been around for a while, or are at least used to pc gaming. Those of us who know the ins and outs of services like Steam, Direct2Drive, or Games For Windows.

Bit of love for the veteran of Steam, his two posts speak for themself.

You're 'now now now' mentality comment makes no sense whatsoever, isnt downloading straight to your desktop rather than going to a shop to buy it more now now now ?

[mooneri]

I don't mind the popup ads on steam. I have purchased quite a few games because of ads, simply because without ads I've wouldn't have come across those games. And most of them has given way more value for the money than anything else I could've spent that money.

I've been using steam about 4 or 5 years now. First I was bit cautious about buying games online, but since then my mind has changed.

[Staticenz]

I pity guys like you, guys who are probably adults but doesn't know how to properly write a response.

I'm sure your entire life can be summed up with one word as well: FAI*

Dir Sir,

You're right, I doesn't know how to properly response. Could you taught me? Also, could I had some additional instruction on how my life for not fail?

Hallelujah,
-Staticenz

[smothersinch]

Bit of love for the veteran of Steam, his two posts speak for themself.

You're 'now now now' mentality comment makes no sense whatsoever, isnt downloading straight to your desktop rather than going to a shop to buy it more now now now ?

Only if it takes you a few hours to drive to the store. What I mean is instant gratification. Yes the game is broken. But are more patches on the way? Until I see otherwise I will assume yes. It only takes a little bit of patience, which appears to be in short supply these days.

Remember all the problems BBC2 had at launch? They were fixed eventually. How about World of Warcraft? They had issues there as well. So we all waited, and were rewarded.

You're going to see it no matter what. Somebody will have a problem, or in this case lots of somebodies. Some of them will blow a gasket and demand a refund, cry about leaving Call Of Duty, Steam, whatever. And they hopefully will, then the rest of us wait patiently until the kinks are worked out and enjoy the game.

I had crashing issues at first too, the patch fixed that. Others didn't have any issues at first, the patch broke that. Eventually Treyarch will get their act together and make it work. No launch of this scale is perfect.

[swoop223]

Dir Sir,

You're right, I doesn't know how to properly response. Could you taught me? Also, could I had some additional instruction on how my life for not fail?

Hallelujah,
-Staticenz

First of all you could start by showing some respect. Not everyone share your gratification for steam. I don't enjoy getting games forecully steamworked down my throat, that's almost as bad as DRM.

Digital games should be cheaper then, period.

You don't approve of this thread? Then you have a a couple of choices:

*Read but don't respond

*Respond with a childish remark which will only make you look like a gigantic nerd-loser, typical response: lolfailomgbbqftwfail

*Respond with a question, try to understand the basis behind his opinion

How would you feel if every thread on this forum were like: steamomgfailbai ?

[swoop223]

Only if it takes you a few hours to drive to the store. What I mean is instant gratification. Yes the game is broken. But are more patches on the way? Until I see otherwise I will assume yes. It only takes a little bit of patience, which appears to be in short supply these days.

Remember all the problems BBC2 had at launch? They were fixed eventually. How about World of Warcraft? They had issues there as well. So we all waited, and were rewarded.

You're going to see it no matter what. Somebody will have a problem, or in this case lots of somebodies. Some of them will blow a gasket and demand a refund, cry about leaving Call Of Duty, Steam, whatever. And they hopefully will, then the rest of us wait patiently until the kinks are worked out and enjoy the game.

I had crashing issues at first too, the patch fixed that. Others didn't have any issues at first, the patch broke that. Eventually Treyarch will get their act together and make it work. No launch of this scale is perfect.

The difference is that we all paid high money for a product that was unplayable upon launch. If you accept that, fine by me.

If this was a car, treyarch would have their balls in a vice of lawsuits and threats.

I think someone .... why do we always have to make up a law just because a company doesn't have the moral code to release a working product?


Curious, if you bought a brand new car from a salesman, and after you put your keys in the ignition, 2 minutes later your car dies from some unknown problem. An hour later you have the car returned only to be greeted by the salesman who tells you this is a known problem, and you have to wait for the car company to fix your car, would you accept that?

I can't tell you what i'd do since the last time I spoke my true mind I was temp banned. But let's just say I wouldn't have accepted my cars fate.

[Staticenz]

First of all you could start by showing some respect. Not everyone share your gratification for steam. I don't enjoy getting games forecully steamworked down my throat, that's almost as bad as DRM.

Digital games should be cheaper then, period.

You don't approve of this thread? Then you have a a couple of choices:

*Read but don't respond

*Respond with a childish remark which will only make you look like a gigantic nerd-loser, typical response: lolfailomgbbqftwfail

*Respond with a question, try to understand the basis behind his opinion

How would you feel if every thread on this forum were like: steamomgfailbai ?

I care how you feel about me.

I will follow your *rules for posting* from now on.

I am a failure at life for not seeing your wisdom.

(these are the responses you were hoping for with that post right?)

How about this instead, I respond with:

Eff off, we're all free to respond how we wish. Deal with it.

Let's not forget who's forums you're on. Posting on Steam's forums about how lousy Steam is, isn't likely to garner you an awful lot of support. I'm by no means a fan-boy but I have every right to voice my opinion about a service I am happy with.

If anyone is failing miserably here, it's you.

[judas1878]

Only if it takes you a few hours to drive to the store. What I mean is instant gratification. Yes the game is broken. But are more patches on the way? Until I see otherwise I will assume yes. It only takes a little bit of patience, which appears to be in short supply these days.

Remember all the problems BBC2 had at launch? They were fixed eventually. How about World of Warcraft? They had issues there as well. So we all waited, and were rewarded.

You're going to see it no matter what. Somebody will have a problem, or in this case lots of somebodies. Some of them will blow a gasket and demand a refund, cry about leaving Call Of Duty, Steam, whatever. And they hopefully will, then the rest of us wait patiently until the kinks are worked out and enjoy the game.

I had crashing issues at first too, the patch fixed that. Others didn't have any issues at first, the patch broke that. Eventually Treyarch will get their act together and make it work. No launch of this scale is perfect.

Are you joking man ? You think getting a fix for a game a couple of weeks/months after paying for it, you seriously think thats getting rewarded ?

If you're trying to tell me the only people complaining are the ones who have only just got Steam, you are seriously mistaken. The people who are complaining are the ones who have the thought that 'we buy something, it works, or is playable at best'. Lets not forget one of the little 'fixes' are put Steam at low priority, I kno thats the fault of the game using too much causing Steam to knock it over the 100% cpu. But, why the ♥♥♥♥ should Steam do ANYHTING when im playing my game ? I turned in-game off and Steam cloud, still uses my resources, hogging piece of ♥♥♥♥.

[swoop223]

I care how you feel about me.

I will follow your *rules for posting* from now on.

I am a failure at life for not seeing your wisdom.

(these are the responses you were hoping for with that post right?)

How about this instead, I respond with:

Eff off, we're all free to respond how we wish. Deal with it.

Let's not forget who's forums you're on. Posting on Steam's forums about how lousy Steam is, isn't likely to garner you an awful lot of support. I'm by no means a fan-boy but I have every right to voice my opinion about a service I am happy with.

If anyone is failing miserably here, it's you.

You asked ME for suggestions, I never forcefully told you how to voice your opinion. I'm not gonna "deal" with childish omgfailftwbbq comments like you posted, you either accept that or you don't.

You seems to have a few "issues" so instead of wasting my time i' m just gonna add this part: you have every right to voice your negative opinion on steam forums, being part of a forum doesn't mean you have to love their service.

If anyone is failing miserably here, it's you

Hey why didn't you just say omgufailhax0romguzistehsz0steamftw :rolleyes:

Isn't great when one can find out everything there is to know about a person just by the way they type?

omgufail <--- indeed :)

[spidypiet]

Are you an idiot?
You can still use a manual disc install with Steam and then have Steam download the patches right after.

lol so steam is a benefit to me because it can download some patches for my manual game install???
those patches that i could otherwise find on the developers forums ?????

dont get me wrong m8 steam if you love it by al means use it
but like all things in live ,i like alternatives
i dont like that my games wont work without the so called gamelauncher

[Staticenz]

You asked ME for suggestions, I never forcefully told you how to voice your opinion. I'm not gonna "deal" with childish omgfailftwbbq comments like you posted, you either accept that or you don't.

You seems to have a few "issues" so instead of wasting my time i' m just gonna add this part: you have every right to voice your negative opinion on steam forums, being part of a forum doesn't mean you have to love their service.



Hey why didn't you just say omgufailhax0romguzistehsz0steamftw :rolleyes:

Ok, how about this Junior (it's ok if I call you by your real name right?), if you don't enjoy the FREE (that's F-R-E-E) service that Steam provides to you (with advertiser support, which you CAN ignore) take your little spoiled as$ somewhere else. It's really pretty simple.

Get a clue how life works kid. Nothing is completely free. Servers aren't free. Employees don't work for free. Programmers don't program for free. You can't control stranger's opinions on the internet. You're in no position to demand anything from a service that is free to you.

You don't like Steam? Ok, tell mommy and daddy to go buy your sh*t somewhere else.

[Woulfe]

I think it's funny how whenever someone complains about STEAM it's always user error. Been with STEAM since 2003 and damn proud of it

[swoop223]

lol so steam is a benefit to me because it can download some patches for my manual game install???
those patches that i could otherwise find on the developers forums ?????

dont get me wrong m8 steam if you love it by al means use it
but like all things in live ,i like alternatives
i dont like that my games wont work without the so called gamelauncher

+1

Remember back in the day when you could buy a game from a store and it would be a LOT cheaper compared to online/consoles and if you wanted patches you'd just go to their homepage (the one who created the game that is)

Today it's either forcefully steamworks or DRM up your ♥♥♥.

[Staticenz]

I think it's funny how whenever someone complains about STEAM it's always user error. Been with STEAM since 2003 and damn proud of it

Not to mention the OP has blamed Steam for everything under the sun. Most of which Steam has no control over.

[Staticenz]

Isn't great when one can find out everything there is to know about a person just by the way they type?

That's a recipe for success if I've ever heard one.

Grow up kid, you've got a lot to learn.

[wisertime]

VAC isn't a joke. It's a different style than Punkbuster sure. Would you prefer we had nothing?

NO, I'd just rather have punkbuster. It wasn't perfect, but seemed to ban/catch more cheaters than VAC and servers could control certain tweaks that were unfair advantages/exploits.

My first experience with VAC was MW2.....nuff said.

[Boster123456]

i use steam cuz i live on aruba island in the carribean and the games here are like twice the price on steam so w000t go steam!!!

[GrimCW]

i buy from steam cause its the fastest DD avail, convenient, well priced more oft than not (for U.S. Residents anyways, i've heard stories for Europeans and Australians about terrible conversions), has tons of great sales, can store and backup hundreds of titles that would once have filled a closet with discs, can install onto my multiple systems and work without using installation limits (on anything that doesn't require an additional third party drm anyways), In/out of game chat, voice chat/comm, friends lists, achievements (for those who care and the titles that support'em), constant updates, program self managment,
Requires no discs, tax free (in my state anyway) has an offline mode, and most problems in it can be fixed in a few simple steps.

rarely have i had issues since the newer versions (admittedly back in '04 it was a terrible mess and something to avoid) but once you learn how it works its one of the easiest programs to deal with, and tbh has the fewest ads too.

for the very few minor problems (the stupid little news update that randomly likes to appear, and can cause slowdown when it tries to open mid game, or the ever rare "this title is not available at this time" problem) it has way to many pluses to care about them.

its only major flaw is in the offline mode, but its more of a user error anyways.
you MUST allow it to save your credentials to the system, and at least launch the game once prior to using offline mode.

simple and stupid, but can easily be forgotten or go unknown.

[smothersinch]

I think it's funny how whenever someone complains about STEAM it's always user error. Been with STEAM since 2003 and damn proud of it

What's better are the things they are complaining about have nothing to do with Steam in general.

Game crashes? Blame Steam
Lagging connection? Blame Steam
In game stuttering? Blame Steam
Global Warming? Blame Steam
Prefer Punkbuster over VAC? Blame Steam
Don't like Steamworks integrated with the game? Blame Steam

Treyarch is to blame. Plain and simple.

Plenty of people have problems, plenty of people don't. If you do have problems, try being constructive instead of whining and throwing temper tantrums.

I personally live 85 miles from the closest Walmart or Gamestop. Steam is easier than driving all that way, or spending all that money on gas. It works just fine for myself and plenty of other people.

[smothersinch]

Are you joking man ? You think getting a fix for a game a couple of weeks/months after paying for it, you seriously think thats getting rewarded ?

If you're trying to tell me the only people complaining are the ones who have only just got Steam, you are seriously mistaken. The people who are complaining are the ones who have the thought that 'we buy something, it works, or is playable at best'. Lets not forget one of the little 'fixes' are put Steam at low priority, I kno thats the fault of the game using too much causing Steam to knock it over the 100% cpu. But, why the ♥♥♥♥ should Steam do ANYHTING when im playing my game ? I turned in-game off and Steam cloud, still uses my resources, hogging piece of ♥♥♥♥.

It works for me without doing that.

Looking at Task manager right now shows Steam using 38 megs of ram. If 38 megs of ram is too much for your computer to handle I suggest upgrading. Newegg currently has some nice prices on ram.

[Carbon Fox]

Not to mention the OP has blamed Steam for everything under the sun. Most of which Steam has no control over.

Indeed, I am seriously disgusted of the people who are complaining about steam... I would not be suprised if soon people are going to complain that they have to need internet to play online multiplayer...

"WTH?!? I BOT THS GAEM AN ET NEDZ INTRENETZ TO PLEH MELTI?! WIE DU WI BAY GAEMS TAT NEDZ INTRENETZ????"

*Sits back in chair and waits for said thread to be created so I can facepalm for the 20th time today...*

[GrimCW]

Treyarch is to blame. Plain and simple.

treyarch AND activision.
Activision moreso with their "One CoD a year" policy.
much like Ubi's failed 12 month dev time on scratch built games.

[smothersinch]

Indeed, I am seriously disgusted of the people who are complaining about steam... I would not be suprised if soon people are going to complain that they have to need internet to play online multiplayer...

"WTH?!? I BOT THS GAEM AN ET NEDZ INTRENETZ TO PLEH MELTI?! WIE DU WI BAY GAEMS TAT NEDZ INTRENETZ????"

*Sits back in chair and waits for said thread to be created so I can facepalm for the 20th time today...*


I feel ya, I really do.

Meanwhile, I like this post http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1611577

[Majesty of War]

If you can't get Steam to work correctly just quit PC gaming.

[smothersinch]

treyarch AND activision.
Activision moreso with their "One CoD a year" policy.
much like Ubi's failed 12 month dev time on scratch built games.


People can't handle the difference between Steam/Valve and Treyarch. Telling them about our overlords at Activision will only cause further confusion.

Also, Activision Blizzard Inc./Vivendi.

[Doc_H]

I've bough a dvd of cod4, lost it, bought it at steam, booldy thing is freezing all the time, never had that with the DVD version

have u tried to disable the steam overlay?

anyway... for me steam works perfect and i try to get all my games over this platform! <3

[lashed79]

i like having all my games in one area ( so to speak )

I dont have any real computer game shops within 250km so it helps me purchase games id otherwise have to travel to get.

[Dachi123]

The one and only reason why the Developers choose to make their game steam dependent is to charge people in upcoming DLCs. For example, activision could have never charged for COD4 dlc because people would not know where to download it from (not to mention nobody would buy it!). But when you have games that require services such as steam, XBOX LIVE, PLAYSTATION NETWORK devs can charge for DLCs with no problem. Like have you heard of Bad Company 2 VIETNAM. Yeah, it's either PC gamers get it for free or they won't get it at all simple as that.

So expect to pay for BLOPS dlcs in near future. ACTIVISION baby!:o

[undercovereg]

I'm sorry, but steam is the perfect solution for me..
in my country games cost alot more then they cost in steam
example:
Cod BO on steam:60$
in my country:80$
and old games cost alot aswell
and you can get old games on steam for under 5 dollars..
and steam works great for me, never have any glitches
after the last patch my game runs great...
btw its alot easier to reach online friends through steam


i agree with u

[swoop223]

I have nothing against steam. But when you're forced to buy a steamworks game when there's no other option available, then I have a problem.

And "then don't buy the game" response is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

You shouldn't even have to have steam installed in the first place to play a game.

[swoop223]

i agree with u

In my "Poor" country, europe sweden heard of it?


We pay around 30 euro for retail pc games unless they are ENFORCED steamwork games.

A typical steam game ONLINE (no cover art, bookklet, manual etc) 5-60 euro.

[Carbon Fox]

I have nothing against steam. But when you're forced to buy a steamworks game when there's no other option available, then I have a problem.

And "then don't buy the game" response is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

You shouldn't even have to have steam installed in the first place to play a game.

Right... Just like how you shouldn't be forced to use electricity to power your pc to play a game, like how you shouldn't need to install a OS to play a game, like how you shouldn't need to drink water to live, or like how you shouldn't be forced to open itunes to sync your ipod... Steam is a very popular and well established DTD company and that makes it a very attractive option to game developers who wish not to put invasive drm into their game or use ♥♥♥♥ty GFWL...

Steam is PC gaming and PC gaming is Steam, Steam is the future and I welcome it with open arms...

[swoop223]

Right... Just like how you shouldn't be forced to use electricity to power your pc to play a game, like how you shouldn't need to install a OS to play a game, like how you shouldn't need to drink water to live, or like how you shouldn't be forced to open itunes to sync your ipod... Steam is a very popular and well established DTD company and that makes it a very attractive option to game developers who wish not to put invasive drm into their game or use ♥♥♥♥ty GFWL...

Steam is PC gaming and PC gaming is Steam, Steam is the future and I welcome it with open arms...

Did you even read what I just said? That's a terrible analogy if i've ever seen one.

But i'm wasting my time on this reply since you obviously wants all pc games to be steamworks.

Have a nice day

[RobCivicCRX]

I could walk the five miles to the store, but it's easier to drive. Auto patching is a logical advancement in gaming. Don't fight the future! Join Steam or you will be assimilated!

lol made me giggle :) It is everyone's personal opinion as to what they like I know and personally I would never use steam unless forced to for games like I am.

[ziggo0]

I buy at Steam because I just got Supreme Commander 2 for $3.75 - a game which my friends have and looked damn fun on LAN, but I couldn't play. Now I can! Pink heart the ♥♥♥♥ out of you STEAM!

Not to mention it took less time for me to download the game then it would for me to drive to Walmart/GameStop - get aids/random stds through the air - pay a stupid price for the game and get home.

[Staticenz]

Steam's support of indie games is top notch as well.

"Defense Grid" for instance. I would have never known about that gem, had it not been for Steam.

[puffader]

@Mark

I would say that the OP might not be the worded the best but Steam isn't exactly something to defend.

For example, I log into steam today click play on Black ops and then it tells me Steam needs to be running in order for the game to play, right.

I'm sure others can provide many examples where Steam Fails, but it does have it's good points too.

[/I]

In most cases all these problems that Steam nay sayers have are because they do not want to take the time to read, hence probably finding out it is on the user end. Support will help you with any problem you have if you take the time. And to complain "it should just work" is very biligerant at the least. Steam has thousands of users and Im sure a small percent have problems, that being on their end. Peace

[sammysfat]

This thread is hardly on black ops beside it not workign for him

[JIgsawX]

You wanna see steam when it dint work good go back(2002/2003) to when it came out...

[JackieChan]

Steam = awesome

Still, haters gonna hate.

[UrbsTheWord]

Nice necro bump.

[OmegaXtreme420]

so why are you even in this forum?

I remember when Steam used to be a crap, everybody complained about everything, and now it works great, so shut up dude nobody cares.
gotta love the ones who think steam is new just cause mw2/black ops :D

[sirvijon]

I love steam.

I just made clean win 7 installation and becouse all my games is bought from steam..all games installed in hour automaticly and updated!

[Snipen543]

I have issues with steam quite often as well. As long as you stay connected to the internet 24/7 I'm fine, however if I ever go to a lan party that doesn't let you on the web, or just internet goes out. Steam will refuse to launch into offline mode without actually being connected to the internet. So it essentially is "offline only if you can be online", otherwise none of the games will launch

[eightohfive]

Ability to download any of my games on any computer, auto-updates, Steam Community functions lets me keep in touch with all my friends while playing any game, Steam overlay lets me browse internet without alt-tabbing, Steam sales usually mean I can find a game cheaper here than anywhere else...Huge improvement over having to keep track of a million discs, manually updating every game which usually meant wasting time browsing around for whatever the most recent patch was, and getting ripped off by brick and mortar stores that rarely reduced prices. And probably most important is that I can find games that I would have never found anywhere else. Steam and other systems like Steam have enabled developers to find customers and make a profit on games that would have died without ever seeing the light of day.

To say its a piece of crap is just plain ignorant...Is it perfect? No, but the fact is that it can't be perfect because unlike consoles almost every computer is different which means not every set up is going to work as well as it could. Also people tend to think themselves computer savy when they just aren't and if your computer isn't kept up to date then you are going to encounter problems.

[MUNKY.]

i like steam, BUTT if i can purchase a game retail (box and cd) in my hand and activate it through steam ill buy retail. personally i have just always had better luck that way and seem to avoid problems with installs.

ps: i do love it when they have good sales

[rupok2]

i don't know what you are talking about but steam is awesome, get a better computer cause steam works flawlessly on my computer. Sure there are some silly bugs but valve practically updates every other week to fix bugs. The only downside to steam is that you can't sell ur games, but u have games without physical copies and you don't need to store them anywhere, steam does that for u. Steam games are not expensive, steam has sales every other month. Plus cloud syncing, for most new games I never have to worry about losing saved games files.

[JimmyMcNulty]

HOW THE HELL DO I GET MY MONEY BACK, I FEEL LIKE I'm RIPPED OFF you guys eather get my games working properly or refund me


Steam is free. For all.

lol @ you.

[mundox86]

Go buy an xbox

/thread

[Acidwell]

I have nothing against steam. But when you're forced to buy a steamworks game when there's no other option available, then I have a problem.

And "then don't buy the game" response is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

You shouldn't even have to have steam installed in the first place to play a game.
There are other options available but its the publishers who choose which to take and you can't really blame steam for that. Anyway the other options are games for windows live, a piece of ♥♥♥♥ that makes you install about 3 other things as well as itself and then won't let you update/buy/use any of your games because you have a tiny little windows feature disabled somewhere. Also there is the ubisoft solution which is always on drm(i know its patched but it was there for a good while), at least steam lets you keep playing the game when your connection stutters or the servers go down.

[666Ninja666]

I agree that the games are to expensive on steam. Don't really understand why, but you can often find it cheaper in retail stores. Doesn't make much sense, that you can get it cheaper while they have to take in manufactering cost of everything + shipping it.

If I'm correct, Valve (makers of steam) doesn't set the prices, the 3rd party company does. So it's X's company's fault that it's expensive. Also, some retailers like target and some dedicated companies sell things cheaper purposely so that they get more business, though I don't really see where you're getting this, I'm looking at target and the steam store
target bioshock 2: 29.99
Steam bioshock 2: 19.99

[infrequent]

HOW THE HELL DO I GET MY MONEY BACK, I FEEL LIKE I'm RIPPED OFF you guys eather get my games working properly or refund me

:mad::mad:

They will refund you if you sign a paper promising never to buy any games in the future.

[Zefar]

Alright I think we're done with this thread. Don't think anything of value is lost if I close it.