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JoxerNL
01-18-2011, 02:12 AM
Seriously, 49,99 euros for this?
What a joke.
ChocoladeEter
01-18-2011, 02:18 AM
I have to agree. This game probably isn't worth the price. I'd pay €20 max, and even that's generous.
t1myah
01-18-2011, 03:00 AM
I also agree. I was not impressed with the jerky animation/framerate whatever in the video clip.
As many others are saying it seems merely an updated dungeon keeper. No chance of me pre-purchasing it even with MUD TV as bonus. (although, i may check out a demo if one arises.)
DoReMi
01-18-2011, 03:02 AM
Yeap........
Lauwie
01-18-2011, 03:23 AM
/agree
But hey, this is what steamdeals are for :)
Been waiting for 10 years to see a remake or sequal to Dungeon Keeper. I can wait another year.
If they added a decent multiplayer mode I would consider 30-50 euros. But it is only singleplayer. The thing I enjoyed most about DK was the LAN games I played with my mates (even when they crashed constantly with loss of progress).
Skavenger0
01-18-2011, 05:02 AM
Looks great, I love DK but no multiplayer = no purchase for me and yes the price is ridiculous
Zone_Dymo
01-18-2011, 05:06 AM
50 IS a joke IN MY FACE.
15 was my estimate, 50 is just insulting.
Skavenger0
01-18-2011, 05:13 AM
Well if it had multiplayer and some skirmish type single player. Some clever AI I could understand a £20 - £25 tag but to be £30, its got to be something exceptional.
As much as I hate to say it but the price tag and the lack of anything other than a single player could kill this game :(
tr0n187
01-18-2011, 05:42 AM
Yep. I was gonna lay down $15 no problem but $40 is ridiculous from what I've seen of the game. I loved DK 1 and 2, in fact i still have them both, but I'm not paying for a SP only remake of those games.
akanam
01-18-2011, 07:23 AM
I think that 20€ should be enough, 50 is a joke
berggren75
01-18-2011, 07:34 AM
I had planned on buying this game, but heck if I'll pay THAT price.
I'd pay it if they took out the registration process.
NanostrikeX
01-18-2011, 07:37 AM
Almost the full $50 price for a game that that looks like a ripoff, from a company that I've never heard of, that lacks multiplayer? Sorry, don't think so, devs.
Cut your price by a LOT (50% or more) and maybe I'd think about it, but the current price is a joke. I can gamble $10-$15 on an indie/smaller dev game every now and then, but not $40 that I could spend on either SEVERAL indie games or one good big-name title.
I only hope that this game coming out kicks the real Dungeon Keeper devs into action and has 'em make Dungeon Keeper 3
FenderRed
01-18-2011, 08:02 AM
Almost the full $50 price for a game that that looks like a ripoff, from a company that I've never heard of, that lacks multiplayer? Sorry, don't think so, devs.
Cut your price by a LOT (50% or more) and maybe I'd think about it, but the current price is a joke. I can gamble $10-$15 on an indie/smaller dev game every now and then, but not $40 that I could spend on either SEVERAL indie games or one good big-name title.
I only hope that this game coming out kicks the real Dungeon Keeper devs into action and has 'em make Dungeon Keeper 3
Judging by the amount of complaints before the game is even released, my guess is developers aren't rushing and fighting over IP rights.
A lot of people say "I've waited X years for this game! But no!"
Be prepared to wait even longer then.
Almost the full $50 price for a game that that looks like a ripoff, from a company that I've never heard of, that lacks multiplayer? Sorry, don't think so, devs.
Cut your price by a LOT (50% or more) and maybe I'd think about it, but the current price is a joke. I can gamble $10-$15 on an indie/smaller dev game every now and then, but not $40 that I could spend on either SEVERAL indie games or one good big-name title.
you should be happy to live in north america.
we europeans have to pay 67$ (50 euro).
Edit: 45 euro now
Jderz
01-18-2011, 08:09 AM
I'm genuinely surprised at the reception this game is getting so far at these forums. I thought there were more opened minded folks than this, especially attracted to this genre.
Oh well, if the game turns out to be another sad tale of being an awesome game with poor sales then we can probably expect not to see another DK type of game in a looong time.
Hope everyone enjoys their next reincarnation of world war 2 shooter...
bobsbarricades
01-18-2011, 08:10 AM
/agree
But hey, this is what steamdeals are for :)
Been waiting for 10 years to see a remake or sequal to Dungeon Keeper. I can wait another year.
If they added a decent multiplayer mode I would consider 30-50 euros. But it is only singleplayer. The thing I enjoyed most about DK was the LAN games I played with my mates (even when they crashed constantly with loss of progress).
Haven't you hear? Developers don't care about their customers that enjoy LAN. In their book, were on par with pirates o.O
Lauwie
01-18-2011, 08:45 AM
Haven't you hear? Developers don't care about their customers that enjoy LAN. In their book, were on par with pirates o.O
A lot has changed since then, in those days we played on LAN because internet was too expensive and laggy (was on the phone line max 5kb/s) so now I would offcourse play it over the internet.
tda-danny
01-18-2011, 11:51 AM
A lot has changed since then, in those days we played on LAN because internet was too expensive and laggy (was on the phone line max 5kb/s) so now I would offcourse play it over the internet.
However, that also isn't an option with this game... shame
Kurtensen
01-18-2011, 12:09 PM
I'm genuinely surprised at the reception this game is getting so far at these forums. I thought there were more opened minded folks than this, especially attracted to this genre.
Oh well, if the game turns out to be another sad tale of being an awesome game with poor sales then we can probably expect not to see another DK type of game in a looong time.
Hope everyone enjoys their next reincarnation of world war 2 shooter...
As there are so many WW2 shooters coming out right now..
cybercrist
01-18-2011, 12:47 PM
I'm interested in this game, intrigued even, but no way will I pay $40 for it unless the demo is damn good. Game video is choppy, which doesn't give me good vibes for in-game play. Multiplayer or not, I'd have to demo it, before I come up with a price tag.
BlueTrin
01-18-2011, 12:53 PM
This will get on sale within 3 months ...
Now if they could do Theme Hospital ...
freibooter
01-18-2011, 12:56 PM
I'm genuinely surprised at the reception this game is getting so far at these forums. I thought there were more opened minded folks than this, especially attracted to this genre.
Oh well, if the game turns out to be another sad tale of being an awesome game with poor sales then we can probably expect not to see another DK type of game in a looong time.
Hope everyone enjoys their next reincarnation of world war 2 shooter...
At the same time there are a lot of innovative and fun indie games coming out, made overwhelmingly by friendly and nice people that are deserving of our support.
While I'm happy that the genre is getting a bit more attention (the have been other, differently themed games by the way - Evil genius for example) it's not exactly innovative or fresh to take both gameplay and setting from a ten year old classic.
But that would be fine, if it weren't Kalypso doing it - a publisher worse than EA.
They essentially priced themselves right out of any potential success. And why on earth is this game significantly more expensive in digital distribution than in retail.
And if you are really thinking you may ever see a free multiplayer update for this game you must be dreaming.
BlueTrin
01-18-2011, 12:59 PM
I'm genuinely surprised at the reception this game is getting so far at these forums. I thought there were more opened minded folks than this, especially attracted to this genre.
Oh well, if the game turns out to be another sad tale of being an awesome game with poor sales then we can probably expect not to see another DK type of game in a looong time.
Hope everyone enjoys their next reincarnation of world war 2 shooter...
Look at the topics in their previous game:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=871
I am not betting on this being a much better game than DK2 itself ...
Dazzled
01-18-2011, 01:04 PM
I was looking forward to this game but this price...
Yet another game goes into my bargain bin wishlist
Devaros
01-18-2011, 01:09 PM
I only hope that this game coming out kicks the real Dungeon Keeper devs into action and has 'em make Dungeon Keeper 3
I really, really hate being reminded of this; but the sad news is that I don't think you know: Bullfrog disbanded years ago. Dungeon Keeper 3 is never going to exist. Neither is any reboot of any game they've done. Sorry, no Populus 2, no new theme hospital...nothing.
Gvyse
01-18-2011, 01:14 PM
I really, really hate being reminded of this; but the sad news is that I don't think you know: Bullfrog disbanded years ago. Dungeon Keeper 3 is never going to exist. Neither is any reboot of any game they've done. Sorry, no Populus 2, no new theme hospital...nothing.
you know how to kill a post....
what about the devs of the old team? are they still working?
BlueTrin
01-18-2011, 01:15 PM
you know how to kill a post....
what about the devs of the old team? are they still working?
Dude this is really old news ... Peter Molyneux went to start Lionhead Studios and never made a very good game after that. Fable series never lived up to the hype and expectations ...
I was a hardcore fan, I played all the Bullfrog games ! Populous Flood Powermonger Syndicate Magic Carpet Theme Park Tube Hi-Octane Genewars Dungeon Keeper Theme Hospital Theme Aquarium
I even played Fusion !!! Yesterday I was playing Theme Hospital :)
Nothing would make me more sad than seeing DK2 being ripped off in a mediocre game and from the video it does not look like they will try to add something new.
WolfDK1984
01-18-2011, 01:16 PM
Well..
And the bundled version just hit 1st place, on the Steam best selling game's this week, nice one comparing that it's Tuesday and the game have only been available 12 hours..
I agree. Who makes up these steam prices, valve or developer?
Doesn't take a rocket scientist do a currency conversion and automatically add x% VAT depending on which country you are from.
Why hasn't this been added already?
Basically you are screwing us Europeans over...
Badeanstalt
01-18-2011, 02:47 PM
Its to expensiv youre right.... 20 bucks ok but 50 .... no way....
they made a game inspired from mad tv called mud tv... and it was kind of crap.... you get if you pre purchase.... and now they make a game inspired from dungeon keeper....
but after the last one i am not pay so much money for something that maybe is the same kind of crap
lonefalcon
01-18-2011, 02:58 PM
well looks like l be using games tracker again to buy a game at a normal price again
http://www.gamestracker.com/buy-dungeons-compare-prices-pc.htm
with the DRM from retail l just make account in my bros name when lm done with the game l give him it lol and if its really good down the line l get it on steam later ^^
Boomer86
01-18-2011, 04:41 PM
I'd read about this game early last year and was pretty pumped for it. Got goosebumps when i went onto steam today and seen Dungeons on sale. The price was a big shock though and i've spent money on some rubbish indie games before. I wasn't expecting DK3 at all, but i knew the game was inspired by the series. I'm finding it hard to be excited after spending only 30mins on the board.
>No multiplayer
>£30 for virtual purchase
>MUD TV forum doesn't inspire confidence in the company
>Online Registration/DRM (Why? We're going through steam already)
The price right after Christmas is a bit munch. Especially if you consider that amount of cash would have gotten you a few well rated 2010 games.
I might still buy this game, but it's not looking like it'll be a pre-order as i was first wanting to do when i seen on steam today. I have a feeling these guys are just going to try and make a quick buck off DK fans before they bail for their next project. There's no way they could possibly expect anyone who isnt a DK fan to pay so much for this?
I mean, it's the same process alot of MMORPG's follow these days. They don't offer a trial on release, put the price as high as possible then market it alot hoping alot of people pay full price for a mediocre game before it becomes common knowledge the game is ♥♥♥♥ and you got ripped off.
Spekingur
01-18-2011, 04:58 PM
I believe EA owns the rights to Dungeon Keeper, Populous and Theme Hospital so there might still be hope that EA decides to relaunch these in some form. Aren't they already relaunching Syndicate?
As for this game, I am quite interested in seeing how it works out. Not very excited about the price though.
AsheMan
01-18-2011, 05:15 PM
I was going to buy this thinking it would be $9.99 or so, but I'm not going to pay $39.99. They have seriously overpriced their product given the quality of game that's displayed in their gameplay movies.
dementedlullaby
01-18-2011, 05:18 PM
The price is too much I agree. Good bye customers. Perhaps I can snag it on a sale.
The game isn't exactly a dungeon keeper clone. Kind of sad as I don't think we'll ever see a game like DK. I can't get DK1/Deeper Dungeons to work on my new PC or laptop =( makes me sad. I'm confined to DK2 which while good doesn't give me my nostalgia fix.
In Dungeons you have to make sure the heroes are happy as well or something. It seems the center isn't so much on your minions as it is on your dungeon overall. It might be good, it might be bad. Although I'd love to give it a try it's a bit expensive for a pre-order gamble. I still have to pre-order the new DoW2 expansion. Which is 10 bucks cheaper than this. I've never tried a realmfactory or whatever the devs name is game before which could go either way.
macdory
01-19-2011, 03:51 AM
Just pay £18 retail in the UK - probably the right price !
Entrena
01-19-2011, 04:11 AM
and put some achievements in! ffs
You can get one copy of steam, or 3 copys in a store
DeTard
01-19-2011, 08:57 AM
With Green Man Gaming currently selling it for $25.49, I can't see me justifying buying it for more. While I normally would always try to buy through one vendor to keep everything together, saving $15 is worth making an exception. And MUD TV? I'll pass.
I buy a LOT of games, and have sometimes spent more than I care to admit on pre-orders, but this one won't be one of them at this price. They sure seem to know how to kill off all enthusiasm, don't they? Make it $25 and I'll buy it this minute.
hvkasteren
01-19-2011, 12:27 PM
With Green Man Gaming currently selling it for $25.49
Shows as €38.24 for me, which is a lot more than the €18.89 (or €22.50 including VAT) it should be.
SillyCakes
01-19-2011, 01:13 PM
For all the guys in the US laughing about the price, guess what:
They are asking for 60$ in Europe (45€)
DeTard
01-19-2011, 02:20 PM
Shows as €38.24 for me, which is a lot more than the €18.89 (or €22.50 including VAT) it should be.
Interesting. Yeah it's far cheaper in the US from even a UK vendor. So weird.
For all the guys in the US laughing about the price, guess what:
They are asking for 60$ in Europe (45€)
All the more reason to be annoyed I supposed. I hate region issues, seriously. It's unfortunate that publishers feel some parts of the world ought to pay more than others, but they've been doing this for a very, very long time.
dementedlullaby
01-19-2011, 05:07 PM
The game is 39.99 boxed. Steam is charging the same price, sucks. I thought Digital Distribution was supposed to cut costs.
I'd consider getting it on Green mans gaming but I can't be assed to be honest. I don't need another client, I'll just wait on a steam sale :(.
Jderz
01-19-2011, 05:13 PM
The game is 39.99 boxed. Steam is charging the same price, sucks. I thought Digital Distribution was supposed to cut costs.
Steam is justifying it with the inclusion of MUD T.V and additional game content (items, missions, sandbox map). So you are essentially getting more bang for your buck vs the boxed version. I'm not saying the extra content is anything to rave about though.
AsheMan
01-19-2011, 05:29 PM
Give it a few months and it'll be on sale for 1/4 of the price.
dementedlullaby
01-19-2011, 05:57 PM
Steam is justifying it with the inclusion of MUD T.V and additional game content (items, missions, sandbox map). So you are essentially getting more bang for your buck vs the boxed version. I'm not saying the extra content is anything to rave about though.
It won't be justified after the pre-order is done and you don't get MUD T.V for free anymore.
Just saying.
And yeah I have little interest in MUD T.V. It would be one of those things that gets played once and may as well be uninstalled.
Ric666
01-20-2011, 01:21 AM
It won't be justified after the pre-order is done and you don't get MUD T.V for free anymore.
Just saying.
I just checked 2seconds ago & you still get MUD tv for free when you purchase the steam special edition. Which is the same price as the normal game + bonus content.
Clord
01-20-2011, 01:21 AM
The game is 39.99 boxed. Steam is charging the same price, sucks. I thought Digital Distribution was supposed to cut costs.
I'd consider getting it on Green mans gaming but I can't be assed to be honest. I don't need another client, I'll just wait on a steam sale :(.
Yes, it cut costs for THEM.
JoxerNL
01-20-2011, 02:52 AM
For me it's simple..
not paying 50 euros for a game like this.
They didn't do the designing themselves, they just copied over from DK2, which is fair enough, but expecting a "full" price on this, is a big nono.
20 euros, tops, no more.
Hell even the graphics look like they were directly copied from DK 2 and simply freshened up a little.
Akano
01-20-2011, 03:00 AM
i feel bad for actually paying 50 for it, even more so now since they lowerd it to 45... but yea, its a new dungeon keeper, just wanted it too badly.. but indeed also expected it to be around 20 from what ive seen of it
WolfDK1984
01-20-2011, 07:04 AM
Well..
Man, there must be alot of buyers of the orginal price, that is now feels screwed..
Well, im a game collector, but i won't pay 45€ for "Dungeons" with or without a bundled game(I.e. "MudTV")
conza2009
01-21-2011, 04:09 PM
wow that sucks in England its only £29.99 which i don't mind paying
macdory
01-22-2011, 12:45 AM
wow that sucks in England its only £29.99 which i don't mind paying
In England it's only £18 if you do the sensible thing and avoid pre-orders on Steam and go retail. Steam is only any good in sales, and I certainly don't see £12 of benefit pre-ordering through Steam.
Jderz
01-22-2011, 09:00 AM
Well..
Man, there must be alot of buyers of the orginal price, that is now feels screwed..
You don't have to be screwed over. Steam will refund pre-orders, just return it and buy it at the lowered price. Very amateur for this to happen though.
BlueTrin
01-22-2011, 09:27 AM
Well..
Man, there must be alot of buyers of the orginal price, that is now feels screwed..
Well, im a game collector, but i won't pay 45€ for "Dungeons" with or without a bundled game(I.e. "MudTV")
I understand this, you just have to go to the Mud TV forums to see the people complaining ...
At 29£ in the UK I found it a bit expensive at 49€ there is no chance whatsoever of selling ...
GryMp
01-22-2011, 11:29 AM
I raise my middle finger to the current price. I would be willing to pay about 10€.
dementedlullaby
01-28-2011, 05:59 PM
I just checked 2seconds ago & you still get MUD tv for free when you purchase the steam special edition. Which is the same price as the normal game + bonus content.
Copy/pasted from the steam page.
Pre-Purchase Dungeons
Purchase before February 10 and receive M.U.D. TV to play now!
So if you buy it after Feb 10th you aren't getting MUD TV, hence it being a free pre-order bonus and not justification for it being over priced.
Fatdude
01-28-2011, 08:46 PM
Give it a few months and it'll be on sale for 1/4 of the price.
This.Game is a flop.Its areally ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ exacution of tower defence.Dont touch them when they are coming in but kill them when they are going out and considering that you have to manually kill them with your lord because you cant make heroes to choose different paths.Minions are also useless if they are not mass summoned with pentagram which pretty much destroy the gameplay because you cant controll them.In 1 or 2 months at most we will see at least %50 discount on this game.
Post Monster
01-29-2011, 08:53 AM
Yeah, I'd be buying a slick designer board game for that price (one with miniatures), but not this game.
pete316
02-02-2011, 05:50 AM
Pre-purchase or no, £30 for a single player sandbox is too much, when you can proberbly pick out 3/4 games for that on steam that will not only provide more enjoyment offline, but have multiplayer features as well as being regularly patched
I never heard about this game till recently, and it does not look like the sort of thing thats been in development for a while... i surely hope they don't intend on pushing it out unfinished onto paying customers and fixing it after
Biggest flaw with no multiplayer gameplay is you are relying on the AI being spot on.
Going from posts in here and other threads, there are clearly still problems with it
MolotoK
02-02-2011, 06:51 AM
I really want to support small game companies and especially Kalypso (Tropico 4, Airline Tycoon 2. WOHOO!), but 50Euro really is too much for this.
I would preorder Tropico 4 or Airline Tycoon 2 for this price, if a multiplayer mode is included, but even after playing the demo of Dungeons (which is quite good), I can't get myself to pay 50Euro for this.
I'll wait for the first sale.
ElfShotTheFood
02-02-2011, 09:04 AM
Of course, you're being forced to pay that price.
If you want the game but think they're charging too much, vote with your wallet and wait for a sale. It's not like they're going to run out of copies.
Jderz
02-02-2011, 10:13 AM
I really want to support small game companies and especially Kalypso (Tropico 4, Airline Tycoon 2. WOHOO!), but 50Euro really is too much for this.
I would preorder Tropico 4 or Airline Tycoon 2 for this price, if a multiplayer mode is included, but even after playing the demo of Dungeons (which is quite good), I can't get myself to pay 50Euro for this.
I'll wait for the first sale.
Kalypso is not a small game company, they are the publisher and a pretty shady one at that.
Haemimont Games developed Tropico 3.
Spellbound developed Airline Tycoon series.
Realmforge are the ones who developed MUD TV, and are the ones who are releasing Dungeons.
:D
lonefalcon
02-03-2011, 02:55 AM
In England it's only £18 if you do the sensible thing and avoid pre-orders on Steam and go retail. Steam is only any good in sales, and I certainly don't see £12 of benefit pre-ordering through Steam.
yer and you can all ways pick up mud tv for £1.99 if you want the pre order lol you still save £10 going retail in uk
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00352MC5G/ref=asc_df_B00352MC5G1936248?smid=A2WIQLAUFALNNM&tag=googlecouk06-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22242&creativeASIN=B00352MC5G
Falconoffury
02-03-2011, 11:48 PM
Isn't $50 or euros the normal price for new games, even going back to the 90s? A lot of new games are $60 these days.
JoxerNL
02-06-2011, 01:44 AM
Isn't $50 or euros the normal price for new games, even going back to the 90s? A lot of new games are $60 these days.
Normal games in the 90's were 50 gilders where i live, that's about 25euros.
Rightnow the average game costs about 30-39 euros, special editions and the like 50-60 and some collectors editions upto 70.
So no a lot of games are not 60 euros these days.
Afotai
02-06-2011, 02:15 AM
This is the new Cities XL >.>
ker2x
02-06-2011, 03:00 AM
- Yep, it cost money.
- and yes, we have seen better indy game than Dungeons for much cheaper.
Still ... i'm ok to pay that much for this one.
The problem is not the price, it's the expectations put on this game. (blame the marketing!)
- Waiting for Diablo 3 since years.
- Waiting for DK3 for decades.
The merchandising/trailer/graphics look like we may have some kind of mix of both game in it. and, of course, it's absolutely not DK3 nor Diablo 3 and not a mix of both. That's the problem.
You were ready to pay the price for an exact clone (with improved graphics) of DK/DK2, isn't it ?
EleOnAUnicycle
02-06-2011, 09:25 AM
Kalypso is not a small game company, they are the publisher and a pretty shady one at that.
Pardon my lack of knowledge but can you please tell me how Kalypso is shady. It seems that Kalypso always published quality games and I never seem to have heard a developer complain about them like Ubisoft or Microsoft. Can you please inform me about their shady activities? Also, I hope this doesn't come out as rude.
HorrorScope
02-06-2011, 11:57 AM
Odd conversation here. If the game is quality it's worth it. If it's not quality then there is no real price that's worth it. Like all other games. To me amount of content drives price. Quality has to be there regardless.
Swell
02-06-2011, 01:00 PM
LOL € 44.99, $ 39.99, £ 29.99 Still expecting someone from Kalypso to make a statement explaning that the EU pricing was just a joke :p
Swell
02-06-2011, 01:06 PM
Then again it could be worse. Prince of persia
€ 49.99, $ 19.99 » € 14.67 :eek:
http://www.steamprices.com/de
BlueTrin
02-06-2011, 01:24 PM
Odd conversation here. If the game is quality it's worth it. If it's not quality then there is no real price that's worth it. Like all other games. To me amount of content drives price. Quality has to be there regardless.
No it is not, if the game is 200 000€, it is probably not worth it even if it is of good quality.
There is a low price at which I can play a game which will entertain me for a couple of days but no more and at a certain price I expect the product to be more than just good.
i bought the game on their us-shop for $35.95 (27€) including 10% pre-order discount.
http://us-kalypso.gamesplanet.com/buy-download-pc-games/Dungeons-2313-43.html
there's no country check on their site.
well, i have to wait for the us-release next week, but it's a reasonable price.
in the meanwhile, i train on the survival map from the demo.
Falconoffury
02-06-2011, 02:07 PM
I really don't understand why it costs more Euros than dollars. Aren't Euros worth more than dollars? I just looked up the conversion rate. One dollar is 1.35 Euros. If you go by the conversion rate alone, then a $40 game should be 29.49 Euros according to my calculations.
Where does that extra 15 Euros go?
BlueTrin
02-06-2011, 02:14 PM
I really don't understand why it costs more Euros than dollars. Aren't Euros worth more than dollars? I just looked up the conversion rate. One dollar is 1.35 Euros. If you go by the conversion rate alone, then a $40 game should be 29.49 Euros according to my calculations.
Where does that extra 15 Euros go?
You made a typo Falcon, one euro is 1.36 dollars.
The rest of your post is correct indeed.
dementedlullaby
02-06-2011, 06:56 PM
You were ready to pay the price for an exact clone (with improved graphics) of DK/DK2, isn't it ?
An exact clone of DK1, only improved graphics and would work on my PC? HELL YES! At the drop of a hat. If it had all the expansion content I'd pay 10 bucks more.
Can't get that or the expansion (Deeper Dungeons)working properly, not very good with dosbox lol. Still though, I keep hold of the two discs in hopes one day I shall get them running. I can still play DK2 thankfully =].
As said though, this isn't DK. It doesn't have the name running for it, and as such garnered more skepticism. The demo is very poor as far as I've heard (I don't speak German sorry, they don't teach that here in Canada). Maybe the full product is better but how much better can it really be? A demo should give a fairly decent idea of the end product.
HorrorScope
02-07-2011, 12:53 AM
No it is not, if the game is 200 000€, it is probably not worth it even if it is of good quality.
There is a low price at which I can play a game which will entertain me for a couple of days but no more and at a certain price I expect the product to be more than just good.
But it's not 200,000 euros.
BlueTrin
02-07-2011, 02:06 PM
But it's not 200,000 euros.
But the point is that at 39€ I am not willing to buy the game because of the history of the developer with MudTV, unless the demo is really good.
At 10€ I would have probably preordered the game, because at this price I am willing to give a try to the game or even pay for it to play a couple of days ...
lejsen
02-07-2011, 02:30 PM
I'd give a 20 for this but until then imma just stick to good old dungeon keeper.
HorrorScope
02-07-2011, 03:24 PM
But the point is that at 39€ I am not willing to buy the game because of the history of the developer with MudTV, unless the demo is really good.
At 10€ I would have probably preordered the game, because at this price I am willing to give a try to the game or even pay for it to play a couple of days ...
Hell I would have bought COD12 at 10. I can say what you are saying about any game. I'm not saying it shouldn't be cheaper, but it's not like there haven't been 1000's of games prior to this asking for 50, etc. We're just in an age now that we have a lot of lower production games for cheaper, I guess this company doesn't look at their game as one of these.
I think most games just get this moniker "I'll wait for the bargain bin", but to assault it like "How dare they!", well...
BlueTrin
02-07-2011, 04:22 PM
Hell I would have bought COD12 at 10. I can say what you are saying about any game. I'm not saying it shouldn't be cheaper, but it's not like there haven't been 1000's of games prior to this asking for 50, etc. We're just in an age now that we have a lot of lower production games for cheaper, I guess this company doesn't look at their game as one of these.
I think most games just get this moniker "I'll wait for the bargain bin", but to assault it like "How dare they!", well...
PS: you need to learn to read replies in their context I am giving examples because you said that prices were not that important so it seems that now you agree that price is indeed important: 10€ was an example I don't know what this game is worth but he current price is too high for me but thank you agreeing that the price is indeed important !
This being said, I think you are trolling me. Look it is clear and you will read what I said and stop interpreting what I say. I find this game too expensive after they messed up with MudTV. Now please this is my opinion and I buy many games, I probably spend hundreds every month buying games, so your argument about putting a moniker on every game should not apply to me...
The game price is not close to be the same in every country.
If you want to buy be my guest, but please stop telling others what they should think as I am only stating that I do not want to buy at this price. I stated my opinion and I will not be the only one waiting: I feel like you are an angry man and you are grouping me with others and using generalizations (where did I say the famous "how dare they" that you mention ? They can do whatever they want, I am the one saying that I will wait the bargain bin so please refrain yourself from these accusations) instead of addressing specific points in your replies (I don't care about what you think about CoD, maybe you should buy it at 10 euros then). The video on Steam annoys me because it clearly tries to play on the DK resemblance for marketing.
Yes you can say this about many games and it does not mean that it is wrong. Many developers disappear after a few titles ... To me it looks like an overpriced indie game when I look at the price in euros.
I think you are trolling me because after releasing a semi turd like MudTV you have to be a bit gutsy to try to sell in Europe at such a high premium. Yes maybe the devs think they are geniuses, it does not mean that it is right to sell an indie game at the price of a dawn of war or a total war. I have played only a bit of the demo but it is clear that the publisher put his expectations a bit high (in my opinion), I will wait for the bargain bin on this one but please buy it and tell me if it is worth it ?
nightside187
02-07-2011, 05:41 PM
Most game release at 49.99 some publisher even push to 59.99 these days 39.99 seem a fair price for me ?
Most game release at 49.99 some publisher even push to 59.99 these days 39.99 seem a fair price for me ?
we talk about the euro price (see first post).
the us price is reasonable.
the game costs 44.99 € on the euro steam store, which conforms around $ 61.
craziestp
02-07-2011, 08:15 PM
Way too expensive given the poor quality of the game and lack of multiplayer. I wouldn't pay more than $10 for this piece of excrement.
5 out of 10 according to gamespot. At best this game is mediocre.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/dungeons/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary%3Bread-review
MasterOfTheTide
02-07-2011, 09:01 PM
Canadian here and would bite for 20 bucks... but 40 bucks. I have had the most fun this year with 10 dollar games... minecraft and magicka both of which made the developers stinking rich off of a reasonably priced game.
HorrorScope
02-07-2011, 10:11 PM
If you want to buy be my guest, but please stop telling others what they should think as I am only stating that I do not want to buy at this price. I stated my opinion
Who made who? To me, I'm only telling you my opinion that when did full price for a full price game become so bad? To the person who would only pay 10 because it's rubish, there is another who loved the game and feels 50 is the going rate, so why complain now. I'm all for cheaper games though...
Tricsun
02-07-2011, 11:56 PM
Then there are the people who will still play the game, but not pay a dime.
Merwanor
02-08-2011, 02:49 AM
I was very interested in this game, as i loved DK. But when i saw the price. No way i would pay that much for this game. Had it been a new DK sure then i might have payed this price. But this game has removed the best part of DK. And that is all the management of your creatures. I really loved the lair building and that each creature had spesific activites they did. Like Trolls that worked in the workshops, and you had the training rooms to level up your creatures etc.
Tempest_Wales
02-08-2011, 10:14 AM
I was looking to spend the £10-£15 this game appears to be worth, but not £30, and for that reason, I'm out!
Ohnoo
02-08-2011, 10:58 AM
45 euro is too much, thats like 60-70$
nightside187
02-08-2011, 03:44 PM
we talk about the euro price (see first post).
the us price is reasonable.
the game costs 44.99 € on the euro steam store, which conforms around $ 61.
I understand now must be a trick to push people to buy from retailers look like the new thing publisher does these days ...
heretohelp
02-10-2011, 01:32 PM
20 euros max
A Ghost
02-10-2011, 04:06 PM
I can confirm this. I was one of the poor suckers that bought it at full price, and this game is definitely not worth the 40 bucks I paid for it.
I'd buy this game for maybe 20 bucks but I guess that's just me and the rest of the internet community...
Syncourt
02-10-2011, 07:18 PM
Would buy it instantly for $20au. But at $40 I'm keeping away. Have better things to invest that kind of money in, games that will last for much more than just the casual playthrough. Which is very much what this game looks like it will be.
Xientie
02-10-2011, 10:26 PM
Here in the United Kingdom (Britain) £30 is the standard fare for a decent PC game. Here £30 isn't alot of money, so spending it on a new game isn't really a big deal. If it turn out to be a good game, then great! If not? Then it is no major loss.
kahleeb
02-10-2011, 10:39 PM
Here in the United Kingdom (Britain) £30 is the standard fare for a decent PC game. Here £30 isn't alot of money, so spending it on a new game isn't really a big deal. If it turn out to be a good game, then great! If not? Then it is no major loss.
Would you mind sending £30 to us poor folks? :D
Xientie
02-10-2011, 11:03 PM
Would you mind sending £30 to us poor folks? :D
It might not be alot of money, but it is still money.
Here in the United Kingdom (Britain) £30 is the standard fare for a decent PC game. Here £30 isn't alot of money, so spending it on a new game isn't really a big deal. If it turn out to be a good game, then great! If not? Then it is no major loss.
That's a load of craparola! I'm in the UK and £30 is a lot of money to me!
Xientie
02-11-2011, 12:03 AM
That's a load of craparola! I'm in the UK and £30 is a lot of money to me!
Crap a what? I don't think that's even a word. I Guess it depends on how old you are and if your unemployed or not. From my perspective, £30 isn't a whole lot of money.
Skuggan
02-11-2011, 04:13 AM
45 euro is too much, thats like 60-70$
Probably because the USD is not overpriced anymore, but for me who live in Sweden it's an ok price to pay 45€, even if the game lacks multiplayer or skirmish mode play it's still a very fun game and I'd like to support developers.
techman95
02-11-2011, 09:30 PM
I own this game and it is amazing! Totally worth the $40 bucks if not $50. All new games are $40 and totally understandable. Graphics are great and gameplay is awesome.
Darvo
02-12-2011, 03:30 AM
I own this game and it is amazing! Totally worth the $40 bucks if not $50. All new games are $40 and totally understandable. Graphics are great and gameplay is awesome.
What game are you playing? This is worth 10 bucks at most, i played it at a friend. And got to level 5 and it is boring as hell, the heroes don't do what the are suppossed to do, the goblins just randomly go where the want and hoppefully the mine something out. The gameplay is broken, and does not work at all. It needs a lot of patches before it is even considered a acceptable game.
vicviper
02-12-2011, 07:53 AM
the heroes don't do what the are suppossed to do
You can not control heroes in this game.
the goblins just randomly go where the want and hoppefully the mine something out.
Goblins go where they are being directed to. You can prioritize their work if you feel they're not following your commands properly.
The gameplay is broken, and does not work at all.
It is not broken, it is flawed and from the looks of it, they are aware of the issues and working to fix them.
Skuggan
02-12-2011, 02:41 PM
What game are you playing? This is worth 10 bucks at most, i played it at a friend. And got to level 5 and it is boring as hell, the heroes don't do what the are suppossed to do, the goblins just randomly go where the want and hoppefully the mine something out. The gameplay is broken, and does not work at all. It needs a lot of patches before it is even considered a acceptable game.
You build prestige items to control where the heroes should explore.
Did you actually buy this game or did you download it?
The Steam version of the game have been patched several times already with both minor and major changes.
And too all DK/DK2 whiners, where did you get the idea that it would be a followup on DK?
This game is called Dungeons, the gameplay is not even close to DK, and I cant see that it is supposed to be neither so I'm really curious where you got that information from.
I've enjoyed the game alot, and got many more hours to spend before I beat it. Thats my 2 cents.
Quit whining, start grinding.
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