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Griker
01-30-2011, 09:01 PM
I got seven hundred to spend on a graphics card and I was wonder which one of these 3 cards should I get

EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130590

ZOTAC AMP! ZT-50102-10P GeForce GTX 580

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500186

EVGA 015-P3-1589-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) FTW Hydro Copper 2

would I need liquid cooling for this card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130601

General Jameson
01-30-2011, 09:13 PM
Well the Zotac is out of stock and yes the EVGA FTW Hydro Copper 2 requires liquid cooling. So I would go with the EVGA GTX 580 superclocked out of those choices. Just out of curiosity hat are the rest of your specs and are you sure your PSU is up to powering it?

bygbyron3
01-30-2011, 09:19 PM
EVGA 015-P3-1589-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) FTW Hydro Copper 2

yes that is for a liquid cooled system

Griker
01-30-2011, 09:24 PM
Well the Zotac is out of stock and yes the EVGA FTW Hydro Copper 2 requires liquid cooling. So I would go with the EVGA GTX 580 superclocked out of those choices. Just out of curiosity hat are the rest of your specs and are you sure your PSU is up to powering it?

don't laugh I'm going to build a new system but for now I need new graphics card.

my system specs:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz CPU
MSI K9A2 Platinum AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
Kingston HyperX 8GB DDR2
HIPER Type R II HPU-5K880 880W PSU
3870 512MB GPU
Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty sound blaster pro sound card
1TB hard drive
Windows 7 home premium

NitrousX
01-30-2011, 10:31 PM
I recommend EVGA as they have lifetime warranty and top notch customer service. Don't get the super clocked edition, you can easily overclock the regular edition (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587&cm_re=evga_580-_-14-130-587-_-Product) to the speeds of the super clocked edition. That will save you some money.

On a side note, make sure your power supply can support this video card. You wouldn't want it to be a paper weight if it arrives in the mail one day and you find out your power supply does not have enough plugs, etc.,

Edit: I just now noticed you posted your current PC specs. With your AMD dual core cpu, you will notice a MASSIVE bottleneck.

kdawgmaster
01-30-2011, 10:37 PM
I recommend EVGA as they have lifetime warranty and top notch customer service. Don't get the super clocked edition, you can easily overclock the regular edition (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587&cm_re=evga_580-_-14-130-587-_-Product) to the speeds of the super clocked edition. That will save you some money.

On a side note, make sure your power supply can support this video card. You wouldn't want it to be a paper weight if it arrives in the mail one day and you find out your power supply does not have enough plugs, etc.,

Edit: I just now noticed you posted your current PC specs. With your AMD dual core cpu, you will notice a MASSIVE bottleneck.

GTX580 are limited life time warranties which mean that the warranty lasts only for as long as the product is made, after that they have the choice to either warranty the card or not at their discretion.

Mr.Foster
01-30-2011, 11:43 PM
I recommend EVGA as they have lifetime warranty and top notch customer service. Don't get the super clocked edition, you can easily overclock the regular edition (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587&cm_re=evga_580-_-14-130-587-_-Product) to the speeds of the super clocked edition. That will save you some money.

On a side note, make sure your power supply can support this video card. You wouldn't want it to be a paper weight if it arrives in the mail one day and you find out your power supply does not have enough plugs, etc.,

Edit: I just now noticed you posted your current PC specs. With your AMD dual core cpu, you will notice a MASSIVE bottleneck.

The superclocked has been tested and it has been higher binned than vanilla so, in general, it will overclocked much better. As an example my EVGA GTX 580 SC runs at the stock voltage (1.075V) at 910/2170 stable 24/7 and gives me about 15% extra performance compared to reference card.
You can check here (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=t5h_vh-sJvr6dA0WzT-mttA&hl=en&authkey=CNKMlasC#gid=0) for data on overclocking and setting of the vanilla, SC and FTW cards.

Griker
01-31-2011, 01:05 AM
I recommend EVGA as they have lifetime warranty and top notch customer service. Don't get the super clocked edition, you can easily overclock the regular edition (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587&cm_re=evga_580-_-14-130-587-_-Product) to the speeds of the super clocked edition. That will save you some money.

On a side note, make sure your power supply can support this video card. You wouldn't want it to be a paper weight if it arrives in the mail one day and you find out your power supply does not have enough plugs, etc.,

Edit: I just now noticed you posted your current PC specs. With your AMD dual core cpu, you will notice a MASSIVE bottleneck.

I have the HIPER Type R II HPU-5K880 880W Continuous @ 40C (Maximum Continuous Peak: 1040W) ATX12V V2.2 & EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817128017

what do you mean I will notice a MASSIVE bottleneck?

RainFox
01-31-2011, 01:19 AM
Why not this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162073&cm_re=gtx_580-_-14-162-073-_-Product
It's got great non-reference cooling which allows it to keep temperatures low, loweres the noise the card makes and makes some good potential overclocking possible. The only drawback here is that it takes up three slots so going SLI may be a problem on some motherboards. If you don't plan to go Sli, I'd get this card. I don't know what warranty it has though.

Griker
01-31-2011, 01:29 AM
should I just wait on the graphics card till next month and upgrade my PC with these parts for now?

MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130274

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBRH

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231401

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBR BOX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103913

Grand Total: $622.87

vs

My current system specs

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz CPU
MSI K9A2 Platinum AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
Kingston HyperX 8GB DDR2
HIPER Type R II HPU-5K880 880W PSU
3870 512MB GPU
Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty sound blaster pro sound card
1TB hard drive
Windows 7 home premium

borg_7_of_9
01-31-2011, 03:21 AM
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072) $230

GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128462) $160

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-8GBXH (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231440) $109

Cheaper and faster.. (http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=288)

Griker
01-31-2011, 03:38 AM
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072) $230

GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128462) $160

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-8GBXH (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231440) $109

Cheaper and faster.. (http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=288)

I don't get why the Intel Core i5 2500K - 3.3GHz - 1MB L2 - 6MB L3

is faster then

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE - 3.3GHz - 2MB L2 - 6MB L3

I did a comparison with my current CPU the AMD Athlon X2 6400+ - 3.2GHz - 2MB L2 vs the AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE - 3.3GHz - 2MB L2 - 6MB L3 and it stomps it

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/27?vs=203

borg_7_of_9
01-31-2011, 03:48 AM
I don't get why the Intel Core i5 2500K - 3.3GHz - 1MB L2 - 6MB L3

is faster then

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE - 3.3GHz - 2MB L2 - 6MB L3

I did a comparison with my current CPU the AMD Athlon X2 6400+ - 3.2GHz - 2MB L2 vs the AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE - 3.3GHz - 2MB L2 - 6MB L3 and it stomps it

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/27?vs=203

I don't know ether but it's Intel's latest CPU and there I7 2600K if faster than the old I7 X980 6 core in some test and these new CPU over clock like mad 5G on a good air cooler wtf..

But Clock for Clock Intel has been faster for some time now.. (Better architecture)

Griker
01-31-2011, 04:12 AM
I don't know ether but it's Intel's latest CPU and there I7 2600K if faster than the old I7 X980 6 core in some test and these new CPU over clock like mad 5G on a good air cooler wtf..

But Clock for Clock Intel has been faster for some time now.. (Better architecture)

How is LGA 1155 6MB faster then Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processo?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=100

borg_7_of_9
01-31-2011, 04:16 AM
How is LGA 1155 6MB faster then Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processo?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=100

Improved Architecture is what makes it faster..

Griker
01-31-2011, 04:18 AM
Intel Core i5 2500K - 3.3GHz - 1MB L2 - 6MB L3 is even faster then the Intel Core i7 965 Extreme - 3.2GHz - 1MB L2 - 8MB L3

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/45?vs=288

Griker
01-31-2011, 04:21 AM
I thought 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 socket was better then LGA 1155 socket

* Socket 1366

* Socket 1156

* Socket 1155


I guess Ill go with the Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K instead of the AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE - 3.3GHz - 2MB L2 - 6MB L3

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/287?vs=203

what do you think about this upgrade?

ECS Black Deluxe P67H2-A2 SLI LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135283

http://www.ecs.com.tw/extra/6series/P67H2A.html

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.590138

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBRH

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231401

Grand Total: $672.60

NitrousX
01-31-2011, 05:20 PM
I have the HIPER Type R II HPU-5K880 880W Continuous @ 40C (Maximum Continuous Peak: 1040W) ATX12V V2.2 & EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817128017

what do you mean I will notice a MASSIVE bottleneck?

Meaning, your cpu is not fast as enough to keep up with the GTX580. In other words, you will not utilize the full potential of the card.

borg_7_of_9
01-31-2011, 06:19 PM
I thought 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 socket was better then LGA 1155 socket

* Socket 1366

* Socket 1156

* Socket 1155


I guess Ill go with the Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K instead of the AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE - 3.3GHz - 2MB L2 - 6MB L3

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/287?vs=203

what do you think about this upgrade?

ECS Black Deluxe P67H2-A2 SLI LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135283

http://www.ecs.com.tw/extra/6series/P67H2A.html

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.590138

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBRH

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231401

Grand Total: $672.60

Look's good but you will need to wait..... Intel just recalled all its 6x series chipset's..

It will be Late FEB before new boards will start to roll out with the FIX.. :/