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bwtodd
02-08-2011, 06:32 PM
This is suppose to be a new game, it looks like its 10 years old. Yet the game thinks its crysis or something, my Pc is pretty decent and i get frame rate drops or stutters. The driving physics are horrendous and give zero sensation of actually driving a car, even on my G27 wheel. The sound is sub par the voice acting is sub par the menus are sub par, everything about this game is sub par. I was totally looking forward to this game and right from the beginning It managed to totally disappoint me. Starting with the games inability to start in full screen followed by ancient looking graphics and the final nail in the coffin the driving sucks. A game called test drive should have half decent driving. What a waste of $40, atari... your done...

bummer
02-08-2011, 06:41 PM
I totally agree with you, and I just spent 10 mins reading to see if I can get my money back. I'm so pissed off about buying these crap console ported games that I'm done preordering PC games period. I have been burnt for the last time.

iceman087
02-08-2011, 06:44 PM
plz use the forums for useful comments not whining.....

NeKryXe
02-08-2011, 06:47 PM
yes, the graphics are absolutely awful, its so bad so bad, that everything looks like mirrors, even if you paint your car with a matte color it still looks like a damn moving mirror. i prefer the look of the first tdu, this one looks like some really old bad pc game or a console game. but... apart the horrible graphic look, i find the game really cool, and i'm enjoying the drive.

bwtodd
02-08-2011, 06:49 PM
it is useful, it is useful for someone to read this and find out the game blows before buying it and wasting their money. If it sounds like I'm whining, fine, but my point and opinion remain the same. The game looks terrible and plays terrible, therefore it is not a very good game.

Butch_N
02-08-2011, 06:50 PM
plz use the forums for useful comments not whining.....
Well, in all honesty, they are right.
The game was pushed out the door in a less than ideal state. Now, will it be improved upon, we can only hope.

Please be sure to post request for features and improvements at the official site. Be sure to state they are for the PC version.

VampLena
02-08-2011, 06:53 PM
Fourms arent just for fanboys.

People should complain and let others know about problems with the game.

FlukieLukie
02-08-2011, 06:57 PM
Completely agree, I "got" this the other day and wanted to purchase it if the game was good especially for the online only for me to uninstall it at the end of the first championship which I never do for games, Dead Space 2 deserved my money, this however can go f' itself.

It's a poor port (shoddy performance on extreme hardware)
Looks like crap (Compared to games like Dirt2 or even Hot Pursuit)
Feels extremely boring to play
Crap music selection
Controls are inconsistent
Unneccesary sim-like elements
Unneccesary first person menu system

This should be pulled off Steam it's that bad and to see it hit the top sellers list just makes me upset that people have wasted the money because how you can enjoy this game or even tolerate it I don't know

Tolden
02-08-2011, 07:53 PM
It's unplayable with G25... no FFB, sensitivity of pedals and wheel weird... and the graphics... judge by yourselves :

http://img715.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904084.jpg
http://img708.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904092.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904093.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904100.jpg
http://img834.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904101.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904102.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904102.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904104.jpg
http://img844.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904222.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904230.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904233.jpg

I really prefer the first TDU, they screwed it up with the second.

Shinuz
02-08-2011, 07:53 PM
It's a poor port (shoddy performance on extreme hardware)
Looks like crap (Compared to games like Dirt2 or even Hot Pursuit)
Feels extremely boring to play
Crap music selection
Controls are inconsistent
Unneccesary sim-like elements
Unneccesary first person menu system

I just came back from my friend's house who bought the game today and this is exactly what i though about tdu2 after playing a bit with it.

I'm glad i didn't waste 40$ on this piece of trash.
The control are horrendous and i know graphics aren't everything in a game but come on they aren't really better than the first one, and i though the cars almost looked better in tdu1.

And why is there only 2 radio statiosn to choose from? hey even gta3, a 10 year old game had way more radio station than that.

Is it just me or you can't adjust your view in cockpit mode like you could in the first one? I mean move the seat forward or backward and up or down?

Also the sense of speed is really strange, i was going 180kmh and as i was passing other cars it looked like i was doing 60-80kmh.

Anyway i really like the first one, but there's hardly anyone playing online so i was excited to play the 2nd one with other players, but unless they patch the controls and sense of speed i won't be buying it that's for sure.

Pietro
02-08-2011, 07:54 PM
It's unplayable with G25... no FFB, sensitivity of pedals and wheel weird... and the graphics... judge by yourselves :
I really refer the first TDU, they screwed it up with the second.

I think you chose the wrong links, those are super tiny on my screen.

Tolden
02-08-2011, 08:00 PM
I think you chose the wrong links, those are super tiny on my screen.

I think It's fixed now, thank you.

cSern
02-08-2011, 08:09 PM
That's hilarious and really messed up at the same time. Feel bad for those who paid for it and feel like they got screwed over.

I had pre-purchased it but I am in the process of getting refunded as I sent in my request for a refund before the game was released on Steam. Now I am definitely glad that I did.

It's really too bad. I was looking forward to this game quite a bit. I don't care that it has all the "Sims" type features etc. If it still has the driving element that I'm looking for and is of quality the rest of it I just look at as extra. And if you don't like dealing with it then I think you're being at least a little picky. None of that extra stuff interferes much with the main part of the game as far as I know and from what I've heard. Seems like you would make plenty of money to afford it all anyhow.

But if they really did fail on many of the other points listed which most players consider the main features that everyone cares about, then hopefully it'll hit em in the pocket books. Unfortunate for those who already paid.

It was worth a shot I guess.

lil-bro209
02-08-2011, 08:13 PM
If this has sim features I will eat my week old rotten socks. I have a pretty good setup for sim racing ( seen below ) and I am usaully found on iRacing but I figured I would give this a try since it looked like it would be good. Boy was I wrong. The hardcore mode is a complete joke as well. I am starting to learn my lesson about pre orders. Can't say I won't ever do it again but if I am not absolutely CERTAIN I want it then no go from now on. Poor poor game!

My Setup - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_3ABvuaBKc&feature=related

PhenomX
02-08-2011, 08:30 PM
Quite simply, It's AWFUL!

Awfful on every level. The handeling, mouse & Kybd, control pad and HA steering wheel, are just god awful.

There's realy no other way to put it.

Beyond the controls, the concept is worse. Forced progression, license requirements, annoying cell phone calls getting in the way of sandbox play. Terrible, I mean the worst music imagineable with even more painful radio annoncements.

They tried to do way to much and make the game way to many things that it simply gets in the way of racing and excuse me if I thought I was buying a racing game not some, lets be friends barbie dress up, play the game the way we want you to play in direct contrast to TDU1's open style play.

Singularly the most painful experience in gaming I've had in a very, very long time.

DarkMellie
02-08-2011, 11:29 PM
It's unplayable with G25... no FFB, sensitivity of pedals and wheel weird... and the graphics... judge by yourselves :

http://img715.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904084.jpg
http://img708.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904092.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904093.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904100.jpg
http://img834.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904101.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904102.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904102.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904104.jpg
http://img844.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904222.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904230.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904233.jpg

I really prefer the first TDU, they screwed it up with the second.
Holy ♥♥♥♥.


Has that put a damper on my evening or what! I'm going to be a bonehead and finish my download anyway but those graphics are appalling, how the hell...

scrble
02-08-2011, 11:38 PM
OK, I agree it's not the best racing game out there, but what PC racing game is? NFS (1,1se,2,2se,3,4,5,6,7...)? Crash Time? GRID? DIRT? Trackmania? Fuel? They all have their little quirks, although some are far more polished than others, Trackmania is an extremely polished game. TUD2 is better than NFS Undercover, but not as good as NFS Hot Pursuit, but then it's a totally different game, and after playing TDU2 now for several hours, I'm beginning to appreciate it a bit more. It has a subtle charm.

However, the story line (if that's what it's trying to be) needs to end, there needs to be a skip button for every cutscene and audio speech SHUT OFF!

Apart from some stuttering (which clears up the more you play) I'm actually enjoying this game so far, and I have played and completed every game I listed. Liked them all in their own way.

Freyar
02-09-2011, 12:07 AM
TDU never really had "realistic" damage systems.. I'm not sure why anyone would expect for it to suddenly have it. It's like expecting GT5's damage systems to be interesting when they are nothing but a minor blemish.

I'm enjoying TDU2 more than I did NFSHP2010, simply because I was given more freedom than to just sit there, select a race of sorts, and go at it for 3 minutes only to go back to the same static menu. I do agree the avatar system is out of place, but it's not too jarring to me (yet).

Handling is fine if you're using anything with analogue inputs.

DownWithTheShip
02-09-2011, 12:22 AM
I'm curious what everyone considers a good system?

I have an average system and haven't had any problems.

FengZ
02-09-2011, 12:38 AM
I'm starting to think it might be a SLI issue? I'm getting pretty crappy fps on a pretty high-end system (i960, 3-way SLI 480 GTX, 12 gigs ram, etc.)

I'm running triple screen at 5760x1200, and the average fps is about 45. Other open world games with more intense graphics, such as Just Cause 2, Mafia II, GTA 4, Assassin's Creed II, etc. can all run butter smooth with max setting at 60+ fps.

I had this issue with NFS HP. With SLI, I get about 45 and choppy. With single card, maxed 60fps and never drops.

I'm gonna go home and try it (but not using triple screen in SLI would suck).

Kroke
02-09-2011, 12:56 AM
I totally agree with you, and I just spent 10 mins reading to see if I can get my money back. I'm so jarateed off about buying these crap console ported games that I'm done preordering PC games period. I have been burnt for the last time.

Yes, a lesson learned here as well. So much for hype... It would be wise in the future to try and wait.

Console ports are getting worse and worse...they developers rush them out and the PC player get the shiat end of the stick. :(

Phreeflo
02-09-2011, 01:01 AM
The console versions suck too, but those kids will buy anything.

mudflaps
02-09-2011, 01:11 AM
why did they have a beta? It seems that most people feel that this game is well, once again another unfinished product by a professional games developer. I was going to buy this from amazon for 20 quid, im now happy that I didnt pre order.
pity as I was looking forward to something special.

Freyar
02-09-2011, 01:14 AM
why did they have a beta? It seems that most people feel that this game is well, once again another unfinished product by a professional games developer. I was going to buy this from amazon for 20 quid, im now happy that I didnt pre order.
pity as I was looking forward to something special.

The beta, as I recall, was mainly for stress testing.

NecroViolator
02-09-2011, 01:30 AM
So far Ive tried this game on 3 dif computers...

1st Comp :
Crap

2nd Comp :
1 Dual Xeon (8 CPUs) @2.2 G
6Gig
470 Nvidia
Win 7 64b

GFX were on LOWEST on everything and cant get more than 15-20 FPS, also very BLURRY picture...

3rd Comp :
Dual Xeon (8CPUs) @3.4 G
32Gig
570 Nvidia
Win 7 64b

Same as 2nd Computer but there were lines going through the textures and even MORE Blurry...Max 20-25 FPS...

The Beta was totally CLEAR GFX no HDR/Bloom crap and ran 100% uber speeds, this final crap was the final nail in the coffin...

What the hell is the matter with Eden ???
GTA IV all over again !!!

Uxot
02-09-2011, 01:36 AM
Beta was 100% better,all i can say,i want the beta back...fun time...

kiamstyle
02-09-2011, 01:41 AM
Mhmmm as I read all that here ... im not going to buy the game :)

Pingu123
02-09-2011, 03:26 AM
You guys just way to fast.

trotz
02-09-2011, 03:43 AM
I think this game of trash must be exception from the rule about Steam refund policy. I don't know about demo-version, but this game don't deserve even to be downloaded by pirates through torrents.

I want my money back!

Noah2315
02-09-2011, 03:50 AM
I've actually enjoyed this very much... Handling is bad I must admit and so are the stupid cell phone calls but one thing that I find on this thread is that people really cry so much about graphics? Does it really matter? You do realize it could be a lot worse, no? Just saying.
Too much motion blur too...
IMO good game besides a few things.

mudflaps
02-09-2011, 04:06 AM
The beta, as I recall, was mainly for stress testing.

stress testing what exactly? seeing how stressed people were getting?

it seems to be poorly optimized. so it wasnt stress testing that.

Tolden
02-09-2011, 04:17 AM
I don't know when you people will learn, if you have a G25/G27 wheel then use those wheels on full blown sims where wheels are put to good use, iracing, race on, rfactor etc etc.

Leave non sim games to keys and joypads.

The first TDU has no problems with G25, same for most arcade titles. It seems Atari forgot how to do things, options for wheel configuration where better on the first, even on consoles.

Gold Cobra
02-09-2011, 04:40 AM
Thanks for opening a thread like this. I thought I'd give this game a chance, but this kind of saved me. I'm not all about graphics, but some pictures here remind me of pictures from ipad games. It might offer tons of options for the player, but everything looks rather sterile.

I'll pass then. Thanks for saving me some money.

SentynelXS
02-09-2011, 04:46 AM
plz use the forums for useful comments not whining.....
agree

Gold Cobra
02-09-2011, 04:51 AM
I for one found it very useful.

dazman76
02-09-2011, 04:53 AM
plz use the forums for useful comments not whining.....

The forums are for comments both negative and positive - and it isn't your job to police them. If you have no valuable input to add yourself, "plz don't use the reply button"...

Handling is fine if you're using anything with analogue inputs.

Analogue includes steering wheels - and they do not work correctly. No Logitech models are auto-detected, although they can be manually mapped instead. Once done, the response is absolutely terrible - and no amount of advanced settings tweaking seems to help. We're talking about wheels that cost GBP 140+ here, and are the standard for PC driving - and they do not work. I'm not going to rant like some are on here, but this is not "fine" :)

Kazagi
02-09-2011, 05:22 AM
Handling is fine if you're using anything with analogue inputs.

Analog inputs?, plz this feels like digital inputs all or nothing (ie) on or off...Theres no way this had analog inputs for wheels...

Spaxspore
02-09-2011, 06:36 AM
I felt like many of you in the first hour of two of playing . Than the game opens up and allows you to do pretty much what you want. You still get a random call but you dont have to follow it.

I use a xbox 360 controller on sport mode. Its not bad, but its not great. Mediocre for me but very playable.

Graphics for me, for the most part anyway arnt as bad as one user posted. They arnt eye blowing either.

The game just feels like it needed another month or two or three of polishing. Hopefully the devs will focus on this rather than trying to dump a ton of DLC's on us right out of the gate.

This game still has potential to be better than good, maybe even great.

Sysgen
02-09-2011, 07:07 AM
Thanks for opening a thread like this. I thought I'd give this game a chance, but this kind of saved me. I'm not all about graphics, but some pictures here remind me of pictures from ipad games. It might offer tons of options for the player, but everything looks rather sterile.

I'll pass then. Thanks for saving me some money.

Graphics are very nice for this kind of game and look nothing like what people are posting in this thread.

Here's a screenie I took: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25852539&postcount=196

More here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25853910&postcount=211

Spaxspore
02-09-2011, 07:16 AM
Graphics are very nice for this kind of game and look nothing like what people are posting in this thread.

Here's a screenie I took: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25852539&postcount=196

More here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25853910&postcount=211

yea that about what i am getting graphic wise out of my box. Not bad, but not mind blowing.

But differently not as bad as the user posted in pg1. Its like they didn't change the defaults.

-:Bongo:-
02-09-2011, 07:39 AM
Thanks for the heads up about this game, I will wait till its dirt cheap then pick it up.

Sonicdawn
02-09-2011, 08:29 AM
I have to agree, this game is absolutely horrible and a huge disappointment, it feels more like playing The Sims 3 with a car extension-pack added to it than a racing game. The cars look like they have the wrong proportion and they handles about as poor as they did in Outrun on my old Commodore 64 in the 80's, then again if you are into games like The Sims where you can change clothes decorate rooms and so on this might be a game for you.

Tolden
02-09-2011, 09:23 AM
Graphics are very nice for this kind of game and look nothing like what people are posting in this thread.

Here's a screenie I took: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25852539&postcount=196

More here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25853910&postcount=211

This is a screenie I took:

http://img26.imageshack.us/i/testdrive22011020904104.jpg/

And that police car does not meet the level even to be a PlaySkool toy.

pluppen1
02-09-2011, 09:39 AM
I'm angry that steam released it early in europe because i sent an email yesterday and said i wanted a refund. I thought i had alot of time for them to answer. but then they release the frickin' game two days early. Sometimes i really hate steam. they have not answered yet but i bet they will wate to friday to say that the game is released.

FunnkyFeel
02-09-2011, 10:06 AM
So far Ive tried this game on 3 dif computers...

1st Comp :
Crap

2nd Comp :
1 Dual Xeon (8 CPUs) @2.2 G
6Gig
470 Nvidia
Win 7 64b

GFX were on LOWEST on everything and cant get more than 15-20 FPS, also very BLURRY picture...

3rd Comp :
Dual Xeon (8CPUs) @3.4 G
32Gig
570 Nvidia
Win 7 64b

Same as 2nd Computer but there were lines going through the textures and even MORE Blurry...Max 20-25 FPS...

The Beta was totally CLEAR GFX no HDR/Bloom crap and ran 100% uber speeds, this final crap was the final nail in the coffin...

What the hell is the matter with Eden ???
GTA IV all over again !!!


Thats great.... Stop dreaming... X3 Phenom, 4 gb ram , GTX275 OS (1795 MB) and havent seen lag on my rig.... All maxed out...

SSWeltenfeind
02-09-2011, 10:12 AM
I didn't bought the game because I was able to test the beta version. This screenshot that has been uploaded by another user is awful :(

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4657/testdrive22011020904101.jpg

Check the police car... What is that?
That is unnaceptable...

I am not trolling, and I am not insulting. I always write everything with respect, so I would not like to receive a ban or something like that for complain about this, because I am right.

fishywishy
02-09-2011, 10:21 AM
stress testing what exactly? seeing how stressed people were getting?

it seems to be poorly optimized. so it wasnt stress testing that.

stress testing the servers

keitarno
02-09-2011, 10:23 AM
I didn't bought the game because I was able to test the beta version. This screenshot that has been uploaded by another user is awful :(

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4657/testdrive22011020904101.jpg

Check the police car... What is that?
That is unnaceptable...

I am not trolling, and I am not insulting. I always write everything with respect, so I would not like to receive a ban or something like that for complain about this, because I am right.
haha. wth is that toy car

forerodestim
02-09-2011, 10:27 AM
plz use the forums for useful comments not whining.....

Sorry but his comments are useful for me. I was thinking of buying this game (49,95 Eur) but now I am not. Besides it has DRM of 4 installations.... regretful

A. James
02-09-2011, 10:55 AM
I do feel bad for people. I was lucky enough to participate in beta (which allowed me the foresight not to purchase this game). There were many complaints about the handling throughout the beta and they even updated the handling physics. Honestly though, there were issues that people continually brought up in the beta forums that didn't get sorted out during the beta. I don't know if they were sorted out afterwards, but for as long as the beta lasted, there were not many fixes for things that people kept bringing up over and over again. This is why I completely disagree with companies NOT releasing demos. Atari/Eden did a superb job on marketing. They hyped up their revamped handling physics, but didn't show any gameplay for more than a few seconds. It seems like the only thing they succeeded at was the marketing. I suffered (and I mean suffered) through beta to give input how to make the game improve. I had high hopes for this game and when I installed the beta client and actually got into the game, I was severely disappointed. It was actually not fun to play. But I pressed on and was active in the beta forums and unfortunately not much has changed from what I hear and read.

While I feel bad that people got duped into buying this game through fanciful marketing and tons of hype, this is just another example of why one should wait until reviews are out if the companies don't provide a demo.

hayali_icraat
02-09-2011, 11:24 AM
I pre-ordered this game. Didn't even cancel my pre-order after the 4 installation limit nonsense. You know why? Free roam! Imagine a racing game, where even stopping at a red light gives you joy (you kinda had to if you wanted to complete vehicle transport missions with perfect rating). That was TDU 1. In TDU2, free roaming is a torture. And the only reason for this is crappy handling.

I can't play racing simulations and I'm all for arcade. Though the best racing games are hybrid ones as far as I'm concerned. But no matter how unrealistic the game is, I still want to feel like driving a car (unless I'm playing Rollcage or Whipout or something). There are 3 things that bugs me most in TDU2's handling:

1: No suspension movement. When you're cornering, the car tends to lean in the opposite direction because of centrifugal forces. Similar things occur when you're accelerating or decelerating. This doesn't happen at all in TDU 2. Even a 2 meter tall, 2,5 ton Hummer stands straight when cornering. The first TDU had it, even Grand Theft Auto 3 has it. TDU 2 doesn't. I feel like I'm floating in a flying saucer.

2: Ultra-maneuverable cars. They say size doesn't matter and it's true in TDU 2 world. Whatever you can do with Alfa Romeo Mito or VW Golf, you can also do it with Range Rover Sport, even Hummer. As a result, all cars feel the same.

3: Control is plain bad. Playing with keyboard is virtually impossible, and yes. Analog (like an old PS/2 keyboard) is better. It's not unresponsive, but it's unpredictable. It feels more like you're walking a dog. As long as you hold on to its leash, it more or less goes in the direction you want. Turn your back for a sec and it goes near an electric pole to pee, goes the other way to bark at a bigger dog and occasionally, completely goes erratic to sniff another dog's behind (and that's when you crash into traffic). You can't even dream of doing precision maneuvers between the traffic. That's a shame, because the game rewards it.

Also head turn to the apex of the corner is too fast, too much and too annoying. TDU 1 also had this feature but it was softer and you could even determine its angle. God, I hate it when developers cut options. There are some funny bugs. I started the engine and the driver's door fell, twice. And in this game, objects in the rear view mirror may appear in different colors. A pink Mustang may become brown for example. I don't think this game sucks, but it is definitely unfinished and unpolished. Patch me up, Scotty. Patch me up real good.

taz rose
02-09-2011, 11:40 AM
many thanks to everyone for their comments. Youve also save me some cash, which i dont have a lot of to go spending on things ill regret. I also feel bad for those that spent their money and feel disappointed with the game.

kensted
02-09-2011, 11:49 AM
the controls are the worst, my g25 the car doesent respons before i reach deadzone.....feels like a 30 year old car that got loose steering.
and i allso have problems with performance im on a AMD Phenom II X4 3,4ghtz
4gb ram and a 6970 ATI gfx
and with theese specs i would expect to run on very high settings, but no :(

keitarno
02-09-2011, 12:43 PM
I've now seen the different screens lying around this forum from TDU2.
When comparing the graphic to the 4 year old game GRID, I do not understand why Atari can't manage to make better graphics.
GRID from 2007:
http://bildr.no/view/820844
http://bildr.no/view/820850
http://bildr.no/view/820851
http://bildr.no/view/820852

EDIT: Just took these screenshots on my 3 year old laptop and the graphics aren't even optimized :)

ashrocks
02-09-2011, 01:01 PM
I totally agree with you.

I pre ordered this game off the steam store as I saw the awesome graphics in the trailer now when I have the game the graphics are crap I have everything on very high and at my native resolution. What a waste of money!

Freyar
02-09-2011, 01:19 PM
I've now seen the different screens lying around this forum from TDU2.
When comparing the graphic to the 4 year old game GRID, I do not understand why Atari can't manage to make better graphics.
GRID from 2007:
http://bildr.no/view/820844
http://bildr.no/view/820850
http://bildr.no/view/820851
http://bildr.no/view/820852

EDIT: Just took these screenshots on my 3 year old laptop and the graphics aren't even optimized :)

Invalid comparison. Having a whole island versus a rather small track means that certain hits to visual design have to be made, especially when considering content streaming which is what these games do. Hard Disk speeds, along with the amount of RAM you have are what things like this tend to end up designed around.

Chinchek
02-09-2011, 01:25 PM
Thanks for all the comments and opinions! You just saved my cash! I was looking forward to TDU2 but not if it falls into the gaming industry cash milking trend.

MetalSlug
02-09-2011, 01:28 PM
Invalid comparison. Having a whole island versus a rather small track means that certain hits to visual design have to be made, especially when considering content streaming which is what these games do. Hard Disk speeds, along with the amount of RAM you have are what things like this tend to end up designed around.

Yes, certain compromises have to be made for a large open world game, but NFS: Hot Pursuit has a fairly large open world too and it looks much better than TDU2.

Even the cars in TDU2 look flat and dated. If corners must be cut on the scenery due to the size of the world, then the car I'm driving around in could at least look better than it did in TDU1.

Some of the cars aren't even modeled correctly (why does my Mustang GT only have one exhaust?).

Cerbero88
02-09-2011, 01:44 PM
I don't know when you people will learn, if you have a G25/G27 wheel then use those wheels on full blown sims where wheels are put to good use, iracing, race on, rfactor etc etc.

Leave non sim games to keys and joypads.

you don't own a wheel, do you? i just loved TDU1 with my G25, as well as NFS Shift and Dirt2, but TDU2 it's just wrong, even for an arcade title.

swaaye
02-09-2011, 01:46 PM
The screens that I've seen here and the videos around make the game look very similar to the original TDU to me. I wonder if they generally stuck with the same tech?

Stagg
02-09-2011, 04:03 PM
I stopped playing after 1 hour... The god damn brake pedal is an on/off switch, what the ♥♥♥♥ing hell? This game is garbage atm.

johann_
02-09-2011, 04:42 PM
plz use the forums for useful comments not whining.....

sometimes whining can be good, b4 u buy any game u have to go in forums and read what people say, if there are alot of whining people there must be something wrong with the game you want to buy and sometimes it may save you lot of money and effort, so think about it if u dont like whiners just ignore them :rolleyes:

lordon
02-09-2011, 04:56 PM
TDU 2 isn't bad standalone but when you compare it with TDU 1 it is stripped down from a lot of features. After so many countless fun I had with TDU 1 hardcore mod, I can't believe they ruined handling this much in TDU 2. Sure new features nice but, remember new =/= better. It is just more popular now thats all.

And graphically, I prefer TDU 1 style, it had solid graphics, and better overall framerate. I just wish they would improve the game upon those core settings what made TDU 1 fun instead of stripping it down from best features.

oliathsg
02-09-2011, 05:03 PM
plz use the forums for useful comments not whining.....

Well it was useful for me to read since it has saved me from buying this and finding out for myself. So thanks OP.

rf951
02-09-2011, 05:47 PM
After reading all the impressions here you can add me to the list of people that will not buy now. I actually bought TDU1 the other day to use as a demo of sorts. That game is broken as well so no surprise that the new version is a mess.

UberFAKnNooB
02-09-2011, 06:10 PM
Ok, I am sorry tldr. I don't mind the driving part of the game. The cars don't sound much different than the synthesized sounds from the first one. What is killing me right now are the social aspects of the game. I don't need all this other crap. All I need is places to store my vehicles and roads to drive them on.

I don't remember the car handling being this bad in the first one...what happened? And for the love of god...give me a shotgun for these stalker boyfriends that want me to chase their girlfriends...no wonder they got left. Whiney little "expletive deleted's"

I loved the first TDU. This one looks like I might have to "try" to get into it.

Xenon3d
02-09-2011, 06:44 PM
Yup, this game sucks the hairy ones.

It's got problems on so many levels, graphics, gameplay, social interaction, physics, bugs, it has problems with them all. Initially I thought that Atari needed another 6-12 months to fix the problems with this game, then I realised that it was probably doomed from day one. Making graphics more polished or improving the physics isnt something that can be fixed at a later date, these were fundamental problems inherent from day one.

I'm trying really hard to like it, but Atari are making it difficult for me. I was quite excited to start playing, now I'm wondering if I can get my money back.

If you are thinking of buying this game, don't. Its a waste of cash, and of your time.

EDIT: Also, this game has a massive 'ported from console' feel to it. The menus are especially bad.

FengZ
02-09-2011, 06:53 PM
I'm also trying to like this game, but man, the handling is just soooooo bad. It really is like a 1990s sprite racing game. Press left, and the car "slides" left. There is no feeling of physics at all. (tried both with G25 and XBOX controller).

On very high settings, the game looks ok, but definitely not remotely great. The car models themselves are nice though.

Anyways, for those who haven't bought it, wait for a sale first. This game reminds me of bargin-bin type games...like Crash Time or something.

Tolden
02-09-2011, 08:26 PM
[...] Arcade is for joypad and keys, G25 is for simulation racing where the wheel is put to good use. If you really can't see that then perhaps you might like to actually drive a real car and relise cars don't turn on a sixpence.[...]

I have a wide variety of simulators and arcade games, the problem with TDU2 is that i have no FFB response at all.

Anyway, arcade machines like "Out Run", "SuperSprint" or "Pole Position" had wheels, so, your argument is invalid:

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/985/supersprint.jpg

The point is; I like to play the first TDU with the G25, H and Clutch, but in TDU2 it's poorly implemented.

I have to say that iRacing, rFactor, LFS, NFS, TDU... they can be more or less accurate, but they all are games.

And yes, cars can turn on a sixpence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ7R_buZPSo#t=1m13s

RqpeR
02-09-2011, 09:06 PM
I'm also trying to like this game, but man, the handling is just soooooo bad. It really is like a 1990s sprite racing game. Press left, and the car "slides" left. There is no feeling of physics at all. (tried both with G25 and XBOX controller).

Makes me wonder on what drive 1994 Road & Track presents The Need for Speed (NFS1) has been made. :confused:
They got the handling right in 1994. Add some free roaming to this physics engine, rainy and variable weather, get rid of some invisible walling and off you go.
But hey, why bother about handling when the console kids who this game (TDU2) is aimed at don't have a license away. :p


3: Control is plain bad. Playing with keyboard is virtually impossible, and yes. Analog (like an old PS/2 keyboard) is better. It's not unresponsive, but it's unpredictable. It feels more like you're walking a dog. As long as you hold on to its leash, it more or less goes in the direction you want. Turn your back for a sec and it goes near an electric pole to pee, goes the other way to bark at a bigger dog and occasionally, completely goes erratic to sniff another dog's behind (and that's when you crash into traffic). You can't even dream of doing precision maneuvers between the traffic. That's a shame, because the game rewards it.



Hahaha :D You depict it so right that you deserve to write for a major gaming review magazine.
Thank you for saving my cash and providing good laughter in one pass.

VampLena
02-09-2011, 09:25 PM
This game and its DLC is bad, makes me think these fanboys are so brainless to love this game so much. Its not fun, its boring and annoying. TDU 1 was much better, and actually worked properly with a wheel.

Sonicdawn
02-10-2011, 01:47 AM
This game and its DLC is bad, makes me think these Hammer Legion Members are so brainless to love this game so much. Its not fun, its boring and annoying. TDU 1 was much better, and actually worked properly with a wheel.

Yes this game is really bad and nothing like TDU1 at all, even the f@nboys knows it, they are just worried that no one will buy it so that the multiplayer will be empty. Thats why they only want to see fake-positive posts and photoshop enhanced screenshots here in the forum. There might be people who really likes this game but they are probably not racers, more like kids and Sims3 players.

Vnix
02-10-2011, 02:51 AM
I'm starting to think it might be a SLI issue? I'm getting pretty crappy fps on a pretty high-end system (i960, 3-way SLI 480 GTX, 12 gigs ram, etc.)

I'm running triple screen at 5760x1200, and the average fps is about 45. Other open world games with more intense graphics, such as Just Cause 2, Mafia II, GTA 4, Assassin's Creed II, etc. can all run butter smooth with max setting at 60+ fps.

I had this issue with NFS HP. With SLI, I get about 45 and choppy. With single card, maxed 60fps and never drops.

I'm gonna go home and try it (but not using triple screen in SLI would suck).

Engine for this game is known for "not to utilize SLi/Crossfire" setups. Read here (http://www.dasreviews.com/das-latest-greatest/test-drive-unlimited-2-performance-analysis-18-minutes-gameplay-footage/)

Noro
02-10-2011, 05:34 AM
This game and its DLC is bad, makes me think these Hammer Legion Members are so brainless to love this game so much. Its not fun, its boring and annoying. TDU 1 was much better, and actually worked properly with a wheel.

http://chztotsandgiggles.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/0ad2560b-dbb7-450a-a037-bef7051c82cb.jpg

Senate
02-10-2011, 07:51 AM
TDU never really had "realistic" damage systems.. I'm not sure why anyone would expect for it to suddenly have it.

I never played TDU, so I expected this to have some kind of damage system.

Graphics are decent. It's the handling system that's rubbish. It doesn't feel like it is related to a car.

PL4NB
02-10-2011, 10:07 AM
I never played TDU, so I expected this to have some kind of damage system.

Graphics are decent. It's the handling system that's rubbish. It doesn't feel like it is related to a car.


if u play more u ll see its a good handling ;) don t give it up! :)

UberFAKnNooB
02-11-2011, 03:30 AM
Just because it sounded funny when I described driving on hardcore to a friend...
"it's like trying to drive a sherman tank balancing on a unicycle riding on a tightrope"

Seriously though, it is WAY too easy to spin out in that game. It isn't horrible when it comes to handling, but there are a lot of kinks that need to be worked out.

oli4579
02-11-2011, 05:06 AM
future reference for those who brought it: wait before buying console ports, let someone else buy it and review it. very few ports are good these days. or, there's other methods of obtaining it...

san7
02-11-2011, 05:25 AM
some screens are a joke. so average its a turn off.

Anyway, I only played the 1st game for fanging around those long windy interior roads in the Enzo, superb car to drive (9/10 for handling imo). That was a Blast. Theres one that goes from deep inside the island to the beach. Really looking forward to night driving. But its not sounding too good with the driving physics:(

egguzman
02-11-2011, 05:45 AM
I'm angry that steam released it early in europe because i sent an email yesterday and said i wanted a refund. I thought i had alot of time for them to answer. but then they release the frickin' game two days early. Sometimes i really hate steam. they have not answered yet but i bet they will wate to friday to say that the game is released.

You got to be kidding!!..Wow. That's not nice Steam, you knew it was bad and let the dog out early! Give the man his $$$ back!

Anyway, thanks guys for the warning..I was about to purchase this myself! Thank God I checked here first!

dannythefool
02-11-2011, 06:02 AM
Heh weird I didn't think it was easier to spin out than in a real car going 200 km/h, at all.

oliathsg
02-11-2011, 06:59 AM
future reference for those who brought it: wait before buying console ports, let someone else buy it and review it. very few ports are good these days. or, there's other methods of obtaining it...

If you don't get banned for writing that then a previous account was unfairly banned for a making a similarly tame comment not so long ago.

Just saying.