Egypt Crisis [Politics]

[AlphaFox]

Thursday 10 February - 2011
Last night, if people had been watching the news (and I'm pretty certain that most countires TV networks around the World had their eyes focused on Egypt last night) then they would have seen that President Mubarak did infact not step down. He refuses to leave until the proper elections in September (Which he will not be running in according to his speach last night)

Friday 11 February - 2011
Today is suppose to be the biggest day for the protests. TV networks expect this will be the day if something happens, then today it will happen. Major dissapointment last night in Tahrir square when Mubarak gave his press release so there is to be an expected back lash at Mubarak. Talk of walking 3 hours to the Presidential palace, or other key locations to stage protests there as well as the hundreds of thousands if not millions who were in Tahrir square yesterday.

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Major things happening in Egypt right now. You wonder how long the country and stand having what seems like a nation wide strike, protests and more. The economy is surly going to suffer for it and Mubaraks refusal to leave is just getting too far if you ask me. America expected Mubarak to release his command last night with the press release Obama gave. Also the CIA cheif expected it as well but Mubarak pretty much too everyone by surprise. Army is caught up what seems to be in the middle. Trying to keep peace and getting the protests to end and everyone back on the move again. High up Generals walked the streets yesterday giving their support for the protestors saying they will meet their demands and if need be, take off their uniforms and join the protests. I did not get to see the press release by Army Officials last night so I'm not sure what they said.

Place seems to be in a mess? People want democracy but the current regime refuses to let go. One can only see that eventually it may get extremely violent. Mubarak's speach only fulled the raging fire anyway.

What are your thoughts on the crisis in Egypt? You must have seen something in the news as all eyes of the World are upon Egypt now. Any thoughts you wish to share?


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[MADDOGGE]

The people are stupidly not listening. They have gotten most of what they want and will get the rest. If Mubarak goes now constitutionally none of the small parties will be able to run for office(status quo) and they will still be left with the same group in power. The needed constitutional amendments have to be passed first to allow them to run and they need an orderly transition to avoid disaster. The only other option is pure revolution which will end badly with the military crushing them.

[miX_]

I almost feel like Mubarak is doing this just to incite a massive increase in violence among the protesters just to give the army a reason to step in.

Sad times, I can't believe he didn't step down. There is great hope on the horizon.

[Mordwyrhta]

Change is inevitable.
It's like one of the few truths of the universe.
Progression will always beat Conservation.
He can hold on all he wants, but he will lose.

[AnubisArc999]

Egypt is one of the oldest continuing civilizations in the entire world, I think regardless what happens, and given its history, this is actually rather a "small" matter to put it honestly.

[AlphaFox]

Egypt is one of the oldest continuing civilizations in the entire world, I think regardless what happens, and given its history, this is actually rather a "small" matter to put it honestly.

Millions on the streets protesting? Stock exchange deeply falling? Nation wide strikes?

It may be small for its history, but is big enough to impact the entire World. Egypt is in a key position to one of the most major sea routes. That of course is the Suez Canal.

[Mordwyrhta]

Egypt is one of the oldest continuing civilizations in the entire world, I think regardless what happens, and given its history, this is actually rather a "small" matter to put it honestly.

Well, the current Egyptians aren't really related to the ancient Egyptians.

The original Egyptian empire was wiped out by the Nubians at one point and then the Arabs wandered in and took the place over.

There's theories that the genetic descendants of the ancient Egyptians are actually in Europe. Egyptians likely weren't black or Arab but more like Greeks. Actually, at one point, many of them were Greek. Cleopatra was Greek and Greek became the main language in Egypt for a time.

[bluz74]

None of this would be happening if Episode 3 was out. :mad:

[TangledThorns]

Seems like Egypt has a pretty strong military and that's the only thing keeping the country from falling.

[chaplain_wu]

The original Egyptian empire was wiped out by the Nubians at one point and then the Arabs wandered in and took the place over.
Err no. By the time of the Muslim conquest of Egypt whne it was under the Byzantine Empire, Egyptians were practising Coptic Christianity. A small minority survives today. The Nubians you speak of were paved over by the Muslims likewise.

There's theories that the genetic descendants of the ancient Egyptians are actually in Europe. Egyptians likely weren't black or Arab but more like Greeks. Actually, at one point, many of them were Greek. Cleopatra was Greek and Greek became the main language in Egypt for a time. Interesting; the only thing I ever heard of Egyptians during Ptolemaic Egypt was the typical privileged minority of Hellenic Greeks as cloistered from the common population. Cleopatra was the last ruler of the Ptolemaic dynasty, a royal line composed of Greeks. But considering the habit of incestuous marriage and xenophobia of Greeks, I doubt much intermingling between the two groups were common, at least not enough that the liens were blurred.

Nevertheless, the Arabization/Islamization of Egypt over the long periods under Muslim rule has contributed to a mixture of Egyptian/Arab lineage and Arabic cultural identity.

[notavirus.exe]

Seems like Egypt has a pretty strong military and that's the only thing keeping the country from falling.

A military we bought for them.

The US spends about 3.5 million dollars a day on the egyptian military buying them things as high up as F16's and Tanks.

I hope Egypt gets a prosperous future. That may sound dreamy, but I truly believe that all people deserve some basics things, especially to be heard and have a say of who represents their country.

This could get a lot worse, I hope it doesn't. The road to democracy is often paved in blood. I am very anxious to see how this unfolds, especially considering the election is so far away.

[Kahrandras]

when i saw the first news of this following the tunisian riots, they showed a graph of the percentages of youth populations by middle eastern countries

an awful lot of them were over thirty

it made me hope for these riots to be overwhelmingly successful and spark off a set of riots all throughout the middle east, deposing dictators

of course, the united states wouldn't go for that, and they're not going for the egyptian protest. which is blatantly hypocritical