So are we on time?

[Thomp]

just wondering if you guys were still on time for a Q1 release? havn't heard much about it for certian so was just curious.

If there's no reply to this i'm just gonna asume you guys are working so hard that you are on time :D haha Can't Wait btw xD!!!

[Matthew94]

yeah, the devs have all but disappeared now that the date hasnt been met or is close to being met, oh well.

ill spend my money elsewhere...

[FlyingMongoose]

I have a feeling concentration is being spent more on getting the game done, and less on advertising right now.

[Dojab]

Watching Guild Wars 2 has made me be more relaxed when it comes to release dates. I'll be happy to read blog posts but whatever the devs are doing I'm sure it will work out awesome!

[Egis]

Haha its just funny how people start to ignore others once they fail on something :D how hard is post update news once a week .... ffs

[FlyingMongoose]

They did, on facebook, pointing out a demo was sent to the publisher for review. I'm sure after that review and some approval, plus ratings board ratings there will be something to say. The plain and simple is there might simply be no real news or info to give. If anything maybe a couple of simple map screenshots, but that's probably about it.

[Thomp]

yeah i know what your saying especially as we are, or should be, reaching the final stages of release. the last thing we need is to fall off the hype train at this very late stage :L

[Dojab]

The plain and simple is there might simply be no real news or info to give. If anything maybe a couple of simple map screenshots, but that's probably about it.

There are more classes than the assault along with more mechanics than point-shoot and point-shoot-boom so there's plenty of info to give out. I'll quote several questions I posted in another thread because these are all things they would be able to answer if the game is ready or almost set to ship:

Gameplay would be nice after details about the classes and Commander controls! I really want to see more support information since I tend to play medic in almost everything; so really waiting to see how I can heal my team ^^

Maybe the Consortium heals differently from the Empire :confused:

I'm also curious how you choose your side, I didn't see any information on it. Is it like Battlefield Heroes where you select your side before looking for a server or is it like Team Fortress 2 where you don't know which side you'll be each time?

Are they planning to have ND be an E-sport down the line?

How many maps are they planning for release and what are their update plans post-release? Expansions? Free or paid? Just maps or weapons too?

The examples given for how different the two sides are mostly revolve around the Commander options, what about the troop level? How do we feel seperate from the enemy?

I'm not demanding information, just saying there isn't a lack they can give. If they are focusing on making the game instead of releasing that information that's really cool since that means we'll purchase an awesome and well-balanced game.

I do know this bit about the support but this seems close to all that's said. (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=19463512&postcount=11)

[woolerland]

man this is the only game on my wishlist. i even check if any info has came out but everytime check, i leave with more dissapointment :(

[Thomp]

tbh all i want is a specific date because everday i come on here to check if it has been released and if i don't come on i'm worried i will have missed the pre-order release. i just can't wait is all :D

[Dojab]

They said on their Facebook there is demo/beta news next week so you wont have to wait long Thomp ^^

[Thomp]

haha cheers can't wait!

[chevydriver1123]

They said on their Facebook there is demo/beta news next week so you wont have to wait long Thomp ^^

Excellent

[FlyingMongoose]

According to one of the dev's facebooks he's headed to Holland/Netherlands this week too...that's where the primary offices are (though they do work remotely a lot). So that probably means something good.

[johnnyr]

They said on their Facebook there is demo/beta news next week so you wont have to wait long Thomp ^^

Where did they say this? you mean the post on feb 23rd, almost a month ago???

[Thomp]

nah there's one on the 10 of march saying "Next week we will do an announcement."
so i hope it's an announcement about its iminent release!! :D

[FlyingMongoose]

It's in a response to someone's wall post to them.

[Egis]

anytime this week means sunday 23:59 :)

[Dojab]

Where did they say this? you mean the post on feb 23rd, almost a month ago???

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[johnnyr]

Next week has come and gone. *shrug*. I'm not going to waste anymore energy on following this game. If it ever comes out, maybe I'll check it out, but it doesn't look like it's releasing anytime soon.

[FlyingMongoose]

It has? I still see about 24 more hours in the week...actually a little more than that. Unless you're in japan...in which case you've got bigger things to worry about...

[Thomp]

yeah there's still hope! :D

[Dojab]

I hate to admit I'm a little skeptical about news this week... it's 6 pm on the West Coast and usually big announcements aren't done on the weekend... :(

This is quite troubling but I'm not giving up on this game :)

EDIT: Would be nice for a dev to say hello like they used to here, hint hint ;)

[Egis]

Well they said on facebook this week they will do release date announce, So if they haven't lied will happen today or tomorrow ;) Like I said before probably tomorrow ( 23:59 ^^ )

[FlyingMongoose]

The wall post on facebook does ask about release date; but the response by Nuclear Dawn does not specifically say anything about a demo or release date. So yes it could have something to do with it, but it might not.

[Dojab]

I'm hoping for more class information if it's not a demo.

[Thomp]

I'm hoping for a specific release or beta/pre-order release date to be confirmed tbh but i would be happy to settle for that :)

[juicebox360]

I just noticed this today...does anyone know when the revised release date (Fall 2011) (Source (http://www.facebook.com/nucleardawn?sk=info) - Look at "Release Date") was made?

Or is it just an old thing they forgot to change, seeing as it is "TBA"?

[Dojab]

No idea if the Fall 2010 release is new until the Steam Store updates the same but I think we can guess someone on FB got mixed up saying there'd be news last week :(

Here's hoping to a Stayin Alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY) blog post with an update and possibly a screenshot or two :)

As for the point of this thread I guess we are not on time.

[Matthew94]

I just noticed this today...does anyone know when the revised release date (Fall 2011) (Source (http://www.facebook.com/nucleardawn?sk=info) - Look at "Release Date") was made?

Or is it just an old thing they forgot to change, seeing as it is "TBA"?

Fall 2011, great. I'm definitely not buying as BF3 will be just around the corner by then. Also COD will be out so even less people will buy this so there will be a smaller playerbase.

[juicebox360]

Here's hoping to a Stayin Alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY) blog post with an update and possibly a screenshot or two :)

Indeed. Fingers crossed for a ninja 11:59 update!

[johnnyr]

Like I said, this game is basically doa. They took out vehicles and still can't make a q1 launch. pathetic.

[Dojab]

Like I said, this game is basically doa. They took out vehicles and still can't make a q1 launch. pathetic.

Last we heard they were making the Q1 date by taking them out, maybe they are putting them back in now they have a Fall release. The competition (BF3, CoD) will be difficult but it is still unique. It's not like this only has FPS action.

[juicebox360]

Why is everyone thinking that the fall release is the new date? I posted that because I thought that it was an old date, not a new one.
Unless it actually IS the new date...what a shame

[Dojab]

Why is everyone thinking that the fall release is the new date?

Because until the devs talk to us it is the most reasonable explanation for their silence and it's on an official page.

[juicebox360]

Because until the devs talk to us it is the most reasonable explanation for their silence and it's on an official page.

Ah, okay...

Well, looks like we didn't get any semblance of a "message from the heavens" this week around. Not to mention the end of "Q1" is just around the corner...but who knows? Maybe we'll bump into some release information disguised as an April Fools' Joke.

[EnterHavoc]

news releases inverse to release dates, radio silence, missed deadlines?

Good news everyone! Valve hired them!

[Dojab]

news releases inverse to release dates, radio silence, missed deadlines?

Good news everyone! Valve hired them!

If they did then I may hold off buying ND for a year in case they pull a Turtle Rock and release ND2 the next year with vehicles and using that change to claim it's a new game :rolleyes:

[Tonyrhodeisland]

http://www.nucleardawnthegame.com/
The site is offline now, so is the interwave forums. Perhaps they're updating the site for a beta? :D

[Dojab]

I wonder if they'll fix the symbols being on the wrong sides of the screen; in the old site the symbols next to the ND Logo were reversed so the Empire logo was over Consortium soldiers and Consortium logo over Empire.

Beta, more information, updated blog, or confirmed date even in fall would be nice.

[Silverfell]

Gentlemen, I am disappointed.

I would have expected that every single member of the Steam forums would be at least passingly familiar with the 'Valve Time' phenomenon.

While we have so far tried to avoid contagion, there is only so much we could do, and there is a slight temporal anomaly to deal with before we can resume full transmission strength. This message, for example, was typed on Thursday. March 24th, 1904.

Generally, silence is a good thing. Frustrating as it might be to wait for updates and news on the game that you are so clearly interested in - which is all manners of flattering and stressful for us - please rest assured that we're working hard to bring you a serious update on what's been going on.

In brief, the game will be slightly delayed, as you might have by now guessed. It's still doing well, and Beta is still relatively close. We'll announce preorder and beta participation details soon - but for now, I have to leave you again, and go hammer those recalcitrant chainguns into submission.

[Dojab]

In other words... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY)

Seriously I can't wait to see how the humor you devs routinely show here translates to in game graffiti and such!

[Slayer00]

For anyone who don't know what Valve Time is: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time


I wonder if you beat the record on Valve's own thing (Valve Time) and delay even more.

Q1 = The third week of Q2

[Psyker101]

Nuclear Dawn got sucked into Gabe Newell's gravitational pull? :eek:

Do us a favor: When you finally are able to fire your rockets to get out of the gravity field that is Valve Time, could you maybe try and shoot HL3 out of orbit as well? Thanks :D

[EnterHavoc]

In all honesty, I would have no problem with radio silence from the devs, if it weren't for my #1 concern with this game; population.

I've seen plenty a good multiplayer game go down in quiet obscurity thanks to the problem of population (Shattered Horizon was my most recent investment into an indie failure that should have been a hit) and the last thing I want is to log into Nuclear Dawn on launch day and have noone to play with (let alone in the weeks and months post-launch). I will probably end up renting a dedicated server just to ensure that my fellows Australians have somewhere to go.

Interwave Studios have shown a surprising solid amount of developer transparency, one which is a pillar of the indie community. And while indie games usually populate through word of mouth, an indie FPS just isn't going to do that, especially when all the kids are obsessed with the easymode, rambo-style FPS that is Call of Duty.

On a slightly related note; Battlefield 3 is coming at the end of the year. Given that Nuclear Dawn's general gameplay seems to appeal to TRADITIONAL (read; pre-BC2) Battlefield gamers, what do fellow Nuclear Dawners think of the release? Personally, after the easymode that was BC2, I am very pessimistic about BF3. The trailers haven't done much to soothe my sorrows. I just feel like BF3 was the last chance I had at a AAA game being made for gamers with half a brain (as opposed to the utter easymode consolised ♥♥♥♥ everyone else is producing) but all I'm seeing in the trailers is shiny graphics. While graphics were a brilliant aspect of BF2, unless BF3 has the gameplay to back it up, I'm just going to give up on shooters entirely. I may be terrible at strategy games, but at least they provide a challenge, unlike the FPS market. I can only hope for another Valve shooter then.

[Orange Ninja]

...On a slightly related note; Battlefield 3 is coming at the end of the year. Given that Nuclear Dawn's general gameplay seems to appeal to TRADITIONAL (read; pre-BC2) Battlefield gamers, what do fellow Nuclear Dawners think of the release? ...

I think they'll attract two different audiences. I think BF3 advertises itself as a frantic, adrenaline filled, too-many-things-to-shoot-at shooter. And some people like that. I prefer the more tactical CS:S, or DoD:S gameplay, where strategy and map memorisation is required.

With Nuclear Dawn, I suspect it will be something similar to DoD:S, but the presence of a commander means less of the map memorisation and more of the immediate 'real-time' tactics you see in RTS games.

What I actually hope in ND is that players can choose to be commander before they even join a server. Imagine a StarCraft player starting a game of Nuclear Dawn and not seeing a single FPS feature throughout their entire play session. He/she will be happy, and the FPS players will be even happier.

[Egis]

ya pro starcrafter that's what every team will need :D

[chevydriver1123]

I

Interwave Studios have shown a surprising solid amount of developer transparency, one which is a pillar of the indie community. And while indie games usually populate through word of mouth, an indie FPS just isn't going to do that, especially when all the kids are obsessed with the easymode, rambo-style FPS that is Call of Duty.

On a slightly related note; Battlefield 3 is coming at the end of the year. Given that Nuclear Dawn's general gameplay seems to appeal to TRADITIONAL (read; pre-BC2) Battlefield gamers, what do fellow Nuclear Dawners think of the release? Personally, after the easymode that was BC2, I am very pessimistic about BF3. The trailers haven't done much to soothe my sorrows. I just feel like BF3 was the last chance I had at a AAA game being made for gamers with half a brain (as opposed to the utter easymode consolised ♥♥♥♥ everyone else is producing) but all I'm seeing in the trailers is shiny graphics. While graphics were a brilliant aspect of BF2, unless BF3 has the gameplay to back it up, I'm just going to give up on shooters entirely. I may be terrible at strategy games, but at least they provide a challenge, unlike the FPS market. I can only hope for another Valve shooter then.

I really get where you are coming from, FPS as a genre seems to be the same recycled stuff over and over. Black Ops more or less has opened my eyes to this fact. BF3 is still up in the air in my world until more hard evidence/trailers comes to pass, with a release date being this fall I fear that it will be a rush job just to hope to beat Call of Duty. Personally only Nuclear Dawn, Brink and Warhammer 40k Space Marine have my interest, I originally was interested in Homefront but the reviews say that I made a wise decision in not buying the game.

RTS was my intro into PC gaming and I suck badly at it to.

ya pro starcrafter that's what every team will need :D

I can just picture the commander booting players who dont fit into his "system".

[EnterHavoc]

BF3 is still up in the air in my world until more hard evidence/trailers comes to pass, with a release date being this fall I fear that it will be a rush job just to hope to beat Call of Duty.

Have to remember its been worked on for many years before BC2 was released; I remember a few years ago someone from EA was saying how amazing BF3 is looking.


Also, that Starcraft 2 has been mentioned, it will be interesting to see just how challenging the RTS experience really is. I think that having an RTS experience where you actually need to control real people will add an interesting dynamic for those SC2 pros.

[Dojab]

What I actually hope in ND is that players can choose to be commander before they even join a server. Imagine a StarCraft player starting a game of Nuclear Dawn and not seeing a single FPS feature throughout their entire play session. He/she will be happy, and the FPS players will be even happier.
I hope there's a pre-req for that option like X number of people liked your commanding; like the rep on the forum. Otherwise I see every form of noob (impolite version, everyone will be a newb) clicking it without trying anything in game.

"Eye rawk @ CoD on VETERAN! Dun't qestin MAH L337ershop!"

now I wrote that I like the term L337ershop... :)
please have an achievement called Pro-L337ershop for winning as Commander X times! :D
ya pro starcrafter that's what every team will need :D

That would be nice, I know I suck at RTS but am improving. Not far enough to get a team relying on me though.

RTS was my intro into PC gaming and I suck badly at it to.
Same! This was my first PC game! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30FRephmCto)

[chevydriver1123]

I hope there's a pre-req for that option like X number of people liked your commanding; like the rep on the forum. Otherwise I see every form of noob (impolite version, everyone will be a newb) clicking it without trying anything in game.

I agree with the concept but the problem is that a decent commander can get bad votes because of ♥♥♥♥♥♥players and ♥♥♥♥♥ies not playing their roles.



Same! This was my first PC game! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30FRephmCto)

Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 was my first RTS

[Egis]

I agree with the concept but the problem is that a decent commander can get bad votes because of ♥♥♥♥♥♥players

That's why there is such thing like clans and communities where u get to know how certain players, clans play. As for a random public server ninja's it will always stay random you ether get a good commander or a bad one, you either get bad team players or bad ones, not sure why you still trolling about that since this is obvious.

[Flitskikker]

Gentlemen, I am disappointed.
...

I am disappointed, too. I've sent you two mails (about the icon) but you didn't answer. :confused:

[iwviper]

If you can email your question to me and ill get back to you (pr at interwavestudios.com)

[Dojab]

This is the first time I've seen a dev openly give their email to fans o.o

Woot for iwviper of InterWave Studios!

Now is it for site stuff questions or can we ask you about the game? Really curious about healing ^^;

[iwviper]

You made me realize changing it might be better hahaha, before i get lots of spam ;)

[Dojab]

heh, guess my excitement got me ;)

took your name out to help avoid spam since before it was kinda obvious ^^;

[Matthew94]

Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 was my first RTS

Red Alert 1 was my first or maybe it was C&C 1.

[Flitskikker]

If you can email your question to me and ill get back to you (pr at interwavestudios.com)

So, should I send it to that edited address, or could you PM me with your address?

Thanks for your help in advance! :)

Anyway; I just sent a mail to that address.

[AlphaFox]

pr at interwavestudios.com

had to be done.

[madmakz2]

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[Dojab]

What were people editing out? The real address?

[FlyingMongoose]

Yes; direct e-mail linkage isn't against forum rules; however the popularity of this forum creates an instance very useful to spammers and/or spam bots, which often crawl forum content looking for key words, phrases, and even e-mail addresses. If a direct e-mail address is posted this will get stripped and usually automatically put into a spammer's mailer bot... this is why you don't post e-mail addresses you care about publicly.

[iwben]

Yes; direct e-mail linkage isn't against forum rules; however the popularity of this forum creates an instance very useful to spammers and/or spam bots, which often crawl forum content looking for key words, phrases, and even e-mail addresses. If a direct e-mail address is posted this will get stripped and usually automatically put into a spammer's mailer bot... this is why you don't post e-mail addresses you care about publicly.

And if we have to spend all day sponge bathing our inboxes in the aftermath of filth, who will be working on the game :O

[Dojab]

And if we have to spend all day sponge bathing our inboxes in the aftermath of filth, who will be working on the game :O

Send me a download link and give me access to your servers, I'll get to work testing what's done right away! ;)

[Egis]

Send me a download link and give me access to your servers, I'll get to work testing what's done right away! ;)

Bite a cake and say its tasty its not a job. :mad:

[Thomp]

Can't be long now guys till the beta release i'm thinking :D i hope they give us a days warning so i don't miss out on downloading it as soon as possible :)

[EnterHavoc]

I'd like a couple days to get paypal transfers in progress (assuming preorders for beta access)

[Dojab]

Bite a cake and say its tasty its not a job. :mad:

There have people testing food for poison for years, people paid to go to restraunts and write reviews, and even people paid to taste a recipe and suggest more cayenne or paprika.
Biting a cake and saying it's tasty has been a job for centuries; and what says I'd be biting the cake and not suggesting a hint of orange or sprinkles?

It's not work unless there's feedback and an alpha build would be nice to test out. I have been in a few alpha builds for games before so am familiar with finding some holes in maps along with sending feedback and pictures so not like I have no exp :p

NDAs are also fun to read, I keep wondering if one will one day include: If you dream about the test you are not to speak to anyone (outside of [Name of Company]) regarding the contents of the dream unless the information have already been made public.

I was also half joking, I figured it'd get a smile and if it got a serious reply with an offer I wouldn't turn it down :)

[EnterHavoc]

There have people testing food for poison for years, people paid to go to restraunts and write reviews, and even people paid to taste a recipe and suggest more cayenne or paprika.
Biting a cake and saying it's tasty has been a job for centuries; and what says I'd be biting the cake and not suggesting a hint of orange or sprinkles?

It's not work unless there's feedback and an alpha build would be nice to test out. I have been in a few alpha builds for games before so am familiar with finding some holes in maps along with sending feedback and pictures so not like I have no exp :p

NDAs are also fun to read, I keep wondering if one will one day include: If you dream about the test you are not to speak to anyone (outside of [Name of Company]) regarding the contents of the dream unless the information have already been made public.

I was also half joking, I figured it'd get a smile and if it got a serious reply with an offer I wouldn't turn it down :)

First rule of any game testing; don't ask unless you want to be guaranteed a denial.

[Dojab]

First rule of any game testing; don't ask unless you want to be guaranteed a denial.

That's why it was a joke, all I said was if it was taken seriously I wouldn't turn it down. I also felt like explaining there's more than saying a game is good that goes into testing since if you don't enter an alpha expecting to find some issue then you're looking to play, not test.

Then there's also closed beta applications, those are asking for entrance yet aren't all denied.

[FlyingMongoose]

You also need to remember; these guys started out as members of a gaming community themselves, not only do they know how to build the software, they know how to test too. Plus they have plenty of people at their disposal already; including family, friends, and first-hand people they can actually see and talk to face to face. Plus Valve, and the publisher, and others. Basically there's plenty of testing, reviewing, and bug fixing going on already.

[Dojab]

I am sure there is plenty of testing going on and am not going to ask to be included; all I did was make a joke and respond to someone making an over-generalized statement about game testing.

I did not ask to be included in that, I made a joke and said in my response to Egis if it was taken seriously I wouldn't turn it down. I didn't post my resume. If you look on their website they're looking for programmers and modelers, not testers.

[EnterHavoc]

You also need to remember; these guys started out as members of a gaming community themselves, not only do they know how to build the software, they know how to test too. Plus they have plenty of people at their disposal already; including family, friends, and first-hand people they can actually see and talk to face to face. Plus Valve, and the publisher, and others. Basically there's plenty of testing, reviewing, and bug fixing going on already.

In the same respect, all the internal testing in the world will never prepare for the reality of a major public test. Even the most thoroughly tested games with the best dev feedback in the world are never going to be bug free by the time public beta rolls around. Plus, public testing opens the doors to real time stress testing, which given the persistent stats tracking that will happen in ND, is going to give them a whole new wave of issues to deal with.

The sooner you let the public near your game (assuming youre in a position where you are ready to start bug fixing) the sooner you get a polished game. You just have to be prepared for it, which is where a lot of companies fail on testing.

[FlyingMongoose]

I won't deny this; but the game may not be ready for a public or even "private public" face (IE: Private Beta), this is often where game companies have issues (which I have mentioned before); but not in the respect of game design, but marketing, many people expect the public (or even private) beta to be somehow representative of the final product, they go and they review something incomplete, give terrible reviews and in the end the product falls flat, I believe you were one of the ones who agreed with me on that fact.

But these guys still are involved in that community I've mentioned; so I'd expect that private beta still include non-developers and highly active members of that community so they still have a public element to those who do get to test, not just internal.

Note: They threw up one (1) just one screenshot up on the facebook btw. A goofy ragdoll of the exo screenshot.