Japan disaster, Shogun 2 Aid!

[Frall]

Just a thought but what if each Shogun 2 copy gave some aid to help Japan recover from the earthquake and tsunami.

I know its not mutch of the money that actually goes to the game developer but I beleve this could be a good way to sell more copies, make Shogun 2 even more popular and at the same time helping saving peoples lives.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm

Thank you for reading! :cool:


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[dementedlullaby]

I would pre-pruchase it the moment the news was announced. Actually I came here kind of thinking the same thing.

Although I am supposing it won't happen. =[

[VincentD]

It was announced a couple of days ago that Sega and Sports Interactive would donate all profits from Football Manager 2011 Handheld sales for a couple of days to a disaster relief fund in Japan...

Now since Sega is on board with using sales of their games to help Japan, it's absouletly incomprehensible why they wouldn't use Shogun 2 to raise money.

[Maizel]

Now since Sega is on board with using sales of their games to help Japan, it's absouletly incomprehensible why they wouldn't use Shogun 2 to raise money.



While my heart goes out to those affected by this disaster, I don't find it too strange that not every company dedicates all their products toards the relieve of those struck by a natural disaster.

[VincentD]

While my heart goes out to those affected by this disaster, I don't find it too strange that not every company dedicates all their products toards the relieve of those struck by a natural disaster.

But don't you think a game like Shoun 2 which is basically a game about the foundation of modern Japan and which also comes out not a week after the events, should be used to at the very least raise awareness of what is going on right now in Japan and offer some kind of help?

[Maizel]

But don't you think a game like Shoun 2 which is basically a game about the foundation of modern Japan and which also comes out not a week after the events, should be used to at the very least raise awareness of what is going on right now in Japan and offer some kind of help?

I think the entire world is pretty aware what has happened.

Im just saying that, in the end, Sega donates as much as it wants to, just like you and me. It doesn't matter what game it 'comes from'.

[VincentD]

I think the entire world is pretty aware what has happened.

Im just saying that, in the end, Sega donates as much as it wants to, just like you and me. It doesn't matter what game it 'comes from'.

I understand what you're saying. But I think given the circumstances it would have been a great PR move from Sega to use the release of Shogun 2 to raise awareness and money for Japan, however small it may have been.

[PANTERA.]

Since you guys are all talking about these companies donating. Why don't some of you guys donate $10? I started a thread on the day of the tsunami saying people should show Japan some support. What's surprising is how many people just wanted to complain about how they didn't like donating to big organizations like the Red Cross. It's funny how people want to spend $50-60 on a game but won't donate to a country hit with the largest earthquake in it's recorded history. I, myself already donated and so did a few people that saw my thread. If everyone that buys Shogun 2 donated just $10 to an aid organization, the money would add up quick and would no doubt help with the relief efforts.

[VincentD]

Since you guys are all talking about these companies donating. Why don't some of you guys donate $10? I started a thread on the day of the tsunami saying people should show Japan some support. What's surprising is how many people just wanted to complain about how they didn't like donating to big organizations like the Red Cross. It's funny how people want to spend $50-60 on a game but won't donate to a country hit with the largest earthquake in it's recorded history. I, myself already donated and so did a few people that saw my thread. If everyone that buys Shogun 2 donated just $10 to an aid organization, the money would add up quick and would no doubt help with the relief efforts.

I didn't see your thread but who the ♥♥♥♥ doesn't want to donate to the Red Cross. It should be the ONLY organization you can give money to. And also my whole point is that Sega should use the release of Shogun 2 to raise awareness and money for Japan as it will not only denefit themselves but also the people of Japan.

[Mithridate]

It's funny how people want to spend $50-60 on a game but won't donate to a country hit with the largest earthquake in it's recorded history. I, myself already donated and so did a few people that saw my thread.

Almost sounds like you hold yourself above others merely for donating a couple bucks, thinking less of those that doesn't.

Reason a lot of people doesn't want to donate via large organizations is because said organizations take quite a BIG chunk of the money for themselves, and using a smaller one often leads to less money lost on the middle-man.

Honestly, a lot of the "Help" we provide is misdirected, misused and making us look bad... As well as causing more instability, issues and suffering.

[Maizel]

Since you guys are all talking about these companies donating. Why don't some of you guys donate $10? I started a thread on the day of the tsunami saying people should show Japan some support. What's surprising is how many people just wanted to complain about how they didn't like donating to big organizations like the Red Cross. It's funny how people want to spend $50-60 on a game but won't donate to a country hit with the largest earthquake in it's recorded history. I, myself already donated and so did a few people that saw my thread. If everyone that buys Shogun 2 donated just $10 to an aid organization, the money would add up quick and would no doubt help with the relief efforts.


This the reason people donate.

Not to help mthose in need, but just to hold themselves above others for doing so.

[Mithridate]

This the reason people donate.

Not to help mthose in need, but just to hold themselves above others for doing so.

All acts are deeds of selfishness, one way or another :cool:

There´s absolutely no such things as a completely un-selfish act, makes you think doesn't it?

Wont stop people from trying tho :)

Regarding OP:

I agree on setting aside a percentage of the gains for Japan, would lead to quite a lot of good PR. Even if its a small percentage, the public reaction would be very positive. Simply (pardon me) such a perfect opp, dont get why they would offer this for the Football manager instead:confused:

offering this for shogun 2 and not football would be the financially correct one as well, imho.

[Aetius]

SEGA should donate $40 from every copy of Shogun 2 sold in the AU Steam Store. At least that way Australians will be technically paying the same as those in the USA and helping out the Japanese.

[Lavec]

SEGA should donate $40 from every copy of Shogun 2 sold in the AU Steam Store. At least that way Australians will be technically paying the same as those in the USA and helping out the Japanese.

I second that. We kind of super-profit tax :D

[PANTERA.]

Almost sounds like you hold yourself above others merely for donating a couple bucks, thinking less of those that doesn't.

Reason a lot of people doesn't want to donate via large organizations is because said organizations take quite a BIG chunk of the money for themselves, and using a smaller one often leads to less money lost on the middle-man.

Honestly, a lot of the "Help" we provide is misdirected, misused and making us look bad... As well as causing more instability, issues and suffering.


Yeah that's it, I started a thread asking people to suggest ways to help Japan but it was really all about me feeling better then the troll's that want to complain about the Red Cross paying it's employees, I asked for people to comment and discuss about different ways we can help the people of Japan. Then instead of posting helpful comments, people just want to ♥♥♥♥♥ about how rich Japan is and how they don't need help,etc. Or how big aid organizations where just a rip off. People want to complain how Red Cross uses some of the money to pay wages for it's employees, forbid them paying their employees, food, housing, etc.
People want to complain about aid organizations employees bringing home some money yet don't complain about the CEO's of these gaming companies that are raking in the millions. "As long as I get something out of it, then I don't care how much they rip me off."

It's fine if someone doesn't donate, I don't look down on anyone, yet when they come into a thread about DONATING/Helping Japan and post a stupid comment complaining about the Red Cross and/or other aid organizations. What's up with that? That's what I'm getting at.

You say that donating is going to cause problems, yet you want Sega to donate it's money. That makes sense.

This the reason people donate.

Not to help mthose in need, but just to hold themselves above others for doing so.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Just because you have not one ounce of good in you doesn't mean everyone else is like you. KillBear donated all of the money he saved for Shogun 2 to the Red Cross. I bet he did it just to brag on the Steam forums.:confused: Nice 15 year old high school logic.

Under your theory I became an organ donor and bone marrow donor so I can hold myself higher then those that aren't donors. Even though I'll be dead if I do donate, and won't know the difference, I did so for egoistic reasons. Again, your logic is flawed.

[scorpio0666]

I am buying the game anyway but that is a great idea, very thoughtful.

[malkuth]

Its not like the aid is lacking or anything. Lots of times people put all this aid towards things like this. And its so much that the organizations hold some of the money back for a future problem.

Japan will get all the help they need. And in large amounts. If sega does it thats good.

[BuckyBit]

First Facebook, now here, on Steam forums... why is there suppose to be a connection between Shogun 2, the video game, and the real events in real Japan?

If you want to donate money, do so yourself? Why do you need to ask others? What's up with this "guilt infusion - lecturing other people into benevolent behavior" messages?

Isn't this a video game forum? I am struck about the disaster as the next guy (who does not live in Japan, but has friends there and loves it's culture). Yet, I would keep the things separate.

You're not donating to the Colombine victims families because you bought Team Fortress 2, or do you? (just an example of the same logic). I know, this opinion will gain me no new friends, but still - some common sense people?

[PANTERA.]

First Facebook, now here, on Steam forums... why is there suppose to be a connection between Shogun 2, the video game, and the real events in real Japan?

If you want to donate money, do so yourself? Why do you need to ask others? What's up with this "guilt infusion - lecturing other people into benevolent behavior" messages?

Isn't this a video game forum? I am struck about the disaster as the next guy (who does not live in Japan, but has friends there and loves it's culture). Yet, I would keep the things separate.

You're not donating to the Colombine victims families because you bought Team Fortress 2, or do you? (just an example of the same logic). I know, this opinion will gain me no new friends, but still - some common sense people?

I get what your saying, but at the same time if you don't see the connection between a video game about Japan and the worst earthquake and tsunami in Japan's recorded history, then I don't know what to tell you because a lot of people see the connection, and think it's a great place to put the word out.

Some people aren't aware of what's happening, and some people don't pay attention to the news. No one is trying to get anyone to do something they don't want to, no one is saying " If you don't donate, then you're a bad person".

Also, what the heck does a game that came out in 2007 have to do with a high school shooting in 1999? We're talking about a natural disaster in Japan that has killed thousands of people 4 days from the release of a popular game about Japan.

[highrise]

Donations can be very tricky since you don't know how they are going to spend money raised. Certain organizations with good fund raising activities get labeled as job creation... even though they do great job helping people around the world... or the other way around.

It's really difficult to know who allocates most of money raised to people in need... or to pay their own staff etc.

[Mithridate]

People want to complain how Red Cross uses some of the money to pay wages for it's employees, forbid them paying their employees, food, housing, etc.

They complain that they take way too much money, and that they have way too many un-neccesary postings that merely drain money.


People want to complain about aid organizations employees bringing home some money yet don't complain about the CEO's of these gaming companies that are raking in the millions.

Two very different things, one is for financial gains the other is to help people. They dont have to be two different things but the balance seem ♥♥♥♥ed up in many cases.


It's fine if someone doesn't donate, I don't look down on anyone, yet when they come into a thread about DONATING/Helping Japan and post a stupid comment complaining about the Red Cross and/or other aid organizations. What's up with that? That's what I'm getting at.

Well, the point of saying "dont trust the red cross, use smaller organizations/foundations" is to guide and help. because there are way better ones out there than the red cross. Both have their disadvantages, but that way you can start a discussion "for the greater good".


You say that donating is going to cause problems, yet you want Sega to donate it's money. That makes sense.

No, im saying that it CAN. Dump several thousand tons of free grain in say kenya, and the local farmers will suffer due to being unable to sell their wares. Do it all the time like and you drive them out of business, something you DO NOT WANT.

And "help workers" tend to form their own world where they go since they have the money. This can adversely affect relations and growth, can be abusive and plain aint fair but thats life?


That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Just because you have not one ounce of good in you doesn't mean everyone else is like you. KillBear donated all of the money he saved for Shogun 2 to the Red Cross. I bet he did it just to brag on the Steam forums.:confused: Nice 15 year old high school logic.

Not an ounce of good? Dont quite see what makes you say that.

You can trace everything back to yourself, EVERYTHING. May not be the main reason but its still there, even giving your life for someone else. (You dont have to live with the guilt of surviving) Need i explain more?

You dont have to share my view, but its not invalid nor "15 year old high school logic". And it does not make one a bad person merely for thinking like this, i still work to help others and spread joy all around the world^^


Under your theory I became an organ donor and bone marrow donor so I can hold myself higher then those that aren't donors. Even though I'll be dead if I do donate, and won't know the difference, I did so for egoistic reasons. Again, your logic is flawed.

Did it not make you feel better about being a donator? That very feeling is a selfish one, does not make it bad tho.

[PANTERA.]

They complain that they take way too much money, and that they have way too many un-neccesary postings that merely drain money.

The Red Cross is one of the most efficient aid organizations currently operating. That's not my point though, instead of just saying " I don't donate to the Red Cross" They should state some other aid organizations that they know of, or at least post something that contributes.

Two very different things, one is for financial gains the other is to help people. They dont have to be two different things but the balance seem ♥♥♥♥ed up in many cases.

So people that work full time for the Red Cross and other aid organizations don't deserve to get paid? You seem to be missing my point again, why is it OK for these game company CEO's get paid but not aid organizations? Again, instead of people just trolling, stating how much they hate the Red Cross, they could state some alternatives.


Well, the point of saying "dont trust the red cross, use smaller organizations/foundations" is to guide and help. because there are way better ones out there than the red cross. Both have their disadvantages, but that way you can start a discussion "for the greater good".

People weren't saying that, and my comment was only directed towards them. No one else.
I wrote that first comment pretty quick, and I should have clarified myself and/or chose better words.

No, im saying that it CAN. Dump several thousand tons of free grain in say kenya, and the local farmers will suffer due to being unable to sell their wares. Do it all the time like and you drive them out of business, something you DO NOT WANT.

And "help workers" tend to form their own world where they go since they have the money. This can adversely affect relations and growth, can be abusive and plain aint fair but thats life?

I understand what you're saying, but we're talking about Japan, it's nothing like what you just explained above. Go dump several thousand tons of free grain in North East Japan, and they will be very gracious.


Not an ounce of good? Dont quite see what makes you say that.

You can trace everything back to yourself, EVERYTHING. May not be the main reason but its still there, even giving your life for someone else. (You dont have to live with the guilt of surviving) Need i explain more?

You dont have to share my view, but its not invalid nor "15 year old high school logic". And it does not make one a bad person merely for thinking like this, i still work to help others and spread joy all around the world^^

That wasn't even directed at you, that's why there was a quote separating the two. If anyone seriously believes the only reason any one helps someone else out is only doing so for themselves needs a serious dose of reality. I disagree with you on the whole " even giving your life for someone else", for example, the guy in Iraq that jumped on grenade to save his buddies, I really don't see how he had time to think " We'll, if I survive, I'm going to feel guilty, so I better just jump on it!" Russian RGD-5 grenades have a 3 second fuse, need I say more?
I mean really?


Did it not make you feel better about being a donator? That very feeling is a selfish one, does not make it bad tho.

No not really, I didn't and I don't think about. The fact is, I probably will never donate, unless I get killed in Afghanistan, or something similar. But then again, if I do, It would more then likely be from an IED and there wouldn't be much usable organs to donate....

You keep missing my point though, he said the sole and only reason people donate is to "hold themselves above others for doing so." Which is the stupid thing I've ever heard. You're telling me the millions of people who donate every year only do so to "hold themselves above others." His comment is so ridiculous, it reeks of pure troll.
Quite frankly, donating 20 bucks doesn't make me feel any better about what's happening in Japan and to be honest I would feel a lot better if I had my feet on the ground IN Japan helping. Then I would feel great, but sitting here on my computer in the U.S. waiting for the release of game about Japan while the real people of Japan suffer is really sucking. What can I do though?

I understand your whole theory on how everything one does can be considered selfish. I get it, my point has never to been to criticize people that don't want to donate, my point is to criticize those that come onto threads about helping Japan complaining about how they hate X organization because the CEO makes 500K a year. Instead of posting pointless comments that say " I hate the Red Cross", they could post some alternatives, and contribute to the topic. That's what my point was in my first comment.

[Thaqui]

The Red Cross has an efficiency of 92% - that means that 92 cents out of every dollar goes towards relief. Administrative costs are 4.5% and fundraising costs are 3.5%. That's very efficient for a charity.

If you're looking for other charities to give to that will be helping in the disaster, there is Doctors Without Borders, International Rescue Committee or International Medical Corps. All are rated pretty highly with ~90% fundraising efficiency.

[angelofdeathd64]

Since you guys are all talking about these companies donating. Why don't some of you guys donate $10? I started a thread on the day of the tsunami saying people should show Japan some support. What's surprising is how many people just wanted to complain about how they didn't like donating to big organizations like the Red Cross. It's funny how people want to spend $50-60 on a game but won't donate to a country hit with the largest earthquake in it's recorded history. I, myself already donated and so did a few people that saw my thread. If everyone that buys Shogun 2 donated just $10 to an aid organization, the money would add up quick and would no doubt help with the relief efforts.

You won't raise a dime by being condescending. How people spend their money is their own choice.

[PANTERA.]

You won't raise a dime by being condescending. How people spend their money is their own choice.

Really dude? Can you read? Read the other comments and then go the the other thread to see what I'm talking about. I've already had a number of people message me saying they donated because they saw the thread.
I'm not even trying to " raise a dime" I was merely just commenting on how people just trolled the thread I started complaining about the Red Cross. I don't even know why I'm writing this comment since you quoted something that is old and has already been explained. It's not my fault you lack reading comprehension.

[ghettin]

Almost sounds like you hold yourself above others merely for donating a couple bucks, thinking less of those that doesn't.

Reason a lot of people doesn't want to donate via large organizations is because said organizations take quite a BIG chunk of the money for themselves, and using a smaller one often leads to less money lost on the middle-man.

Honestly, a lot of the "Help" we provide is misdirected, misused and making us look bad... As well as causing more instability, issues and suffering.

Is that how you justify being a non-caring tight @$$? Go ahead and sit on your hands and don't help because... somehow trying to help might hurt. You apply about as much logic to a situation as Glen Beck. You are in good company.

Have a nice day! And before you say anything stupid I donated $100 to the Red Cross specifically for Japan today. I really want to screw with those Japanese :mad:

[Mithridate]

The Red Cross is one of the most efficient aid organizations currently operating. That's not my point though, instead of just saying " I don't donate to the Red Cross" They should state some other aid organizations that they know of, or at least post something that contributes.

yes, they should. But you can still find more efficient ways to help. The best way is to help the locals help them selves although its not always that simple.



So people that work full time for the Red Cross and other aid organizations don't deserve to get paid? You seem to be missing my point again, why is it OK for these game company CEO's get paid but not aid organizations? Again, instead of people just trolling, stating how much they hate the Red Cross, they could state some alternatives.

When you work for the red cross, you work ideally and should literally try to give, not receive. So the less salory you get the better IMO. And when head figures of the red cross get such ridiculous amounts in salary, it undermines the whole thing.


I understand what you're saying, but we're talking about Japan, it's nothing like what you just explained above. Go dump several thousand tons of free grain in North East Japan, and they will be very gracious.

I really doubt that, i really do. And it was an example of how "aid" can hurt a country.


That wasn't even directed at you, that's why there was a quote separating the two. If anyone seriously believes the only reason any one helps someone else out is only doing so for themselves needs a serious dose of reality. I disagree with you on the whole " even giving your life for someone else", for example, the guy in Iraq that jumped on grenade to save his buddies, I really don't see how he had time to think " We'll, if I survive, I'm going to feel guilty, so I better just jump on it!" Russian RGD-5 grenades have a 3 second fuse, need I say more?
I mean really?

Really looked like it was, but sure.

Not the only reason, no. But its always there, and 3 seconds is plenty of time. And i could argue that his thoughts was ultimately selfish, but would still call it a selfless near heroic act. I for one would rather throw myself on the grenade than be mutilated with my buddies or probably die anyway, again selfish thinking. Then i can argue further that on our most basic plain we want to save our "families", so our genes live on. If you fight with others they often become closer to you than your own siblings, therefore dying to save them is a selfish act of self-preservation.

you dont think, you act. And we act based on reflexes and instincts that are based on ourself, our own preservation and thereby again selfish things.


No not really, I didn't and I don't think about. The fact is, I probably will never donate, unless I get killed in Afghanistan, or something similar. But then again, if I do, It would more then likely be from an IED and there wouldn't be much usable organs to donate....

Not really? So you did not get a small feeling of satisfaction when signing the donor card? Even the "why the heck not?" thought usually comes from the selfish thought of helping others, making oneself feel good.


You keep missing my point though, he said the sole and only reason people donate is to "hold themselves above others for doing so." Which is the stupid thing I've ever heard. You're telling me the millions of people who donate every year only do so to "hold themselves above others." His comment is so ridiculous, it reeks of pure troll.
Quite frankly, donating 20 bucks doesn't make me feel any better about what's happening in Japan and to be honest I would feel a lot better if I had my feet on the ground IN Japan helping. Then I would feel great, but sitting here on my computer in the U.S. waiting for the release of game about Japan while the real people of Japan suffer is really sucking. What can I do though?

Its actually not that far fetched, most people dont hold themselves above others, but some does and makes sure to show it. But most people do however see it as a virtue, and thereby feel better about themselves making me call the act selfish.

Donating did make you feel better did it not? Again i reffer to the selfish thought of donating in order to make you feel better, again making it a selfish act.


I understand your whole theory on how everything one does can be considered selfish. I get it

I dont think you do/did understand, then again the world aint just black or white :p


my point has never to been to criticize people that don't want to donate, my point is to criticize those that come onto threads about helping Japan complaining about how they hate X organization because the CEO makes 500K a year. Instead of posting pointless comments that say " I hate the Red Cross", they could post some alternatives, and contribute to the topic. That's what my point was in my first comment.

Something i support, and i agree with you. The red cross does good work, but they are not to be idolized IMO.

[kozzy420]

If I get this 20k placement next month for my instrumentals I will donate half to Japan (;

[Arrowhead]

Don’t donate money to Japan
Mar 14, 2011 14:12 EDT

Individuals are doing it, banks are doing it — faced with the horrific news and pictures from Japan, everybody wants to do something, and the obvious thing to do is to donate money to some relief fund or other.

Please don’t.

We went through this after the Haiti earthquake, and all of the arguments which applied there apply to Japan as well. Earmarking funds is a really good way of hobbling relief organizations and ensuring that they have to leave large piles of money unspent in one place while facing urgent needs in other places. And as Matthew Bishop and Michael Green said last year, we are all better at responding to human suffering caused by dramatic, telegenic emergencies than to the much greater loss of life from ongoing hunger, disease and conflict. That often results in a mess of uncoordinated NGOs parachuting in to emergency areas with lots of good intentions, where a strategic official sector response would be much more effective. Meanwhile, the smaller and less visible emergencies where NGOs can do the most good are left unfunded.

In the specific case of Japan, there’s all the more reason not to donate money. Japan is a wealthy country which is responding to the disaster, among other things, by printing hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of new money. Money is not the bottleneck here: if money is needed, Japan can raise it. On top of that, it’s still extremely unclear how or where organizations like globalgiving intend on spending the money that they’re currently raising for Japan — so far we’re just told that the money “will help survivors and victims get necessary services,” which is basically code for “we have no idea what we’re going to do with the money, but we’ll probably think of something.”

Globalgiving, it’s worth pointing out, was created to support “projects in the developing world,” where lack of money is much more of a problem than it is in Japan. I’m not at all convinced that the globalgiving model can or should be applied directly to Japan, without much if any thought about whether it’s the best way to address the issues there.

That said, it’s entirely possible that organizations like the Red Cross or Save the Children will find themselves with important and useful roles to play in Japan. It’s also certain that they have important and useful roles to play elsewhere. So do give money to them — and give generously! And give money to other NGOs, too, like Doctors Without Borders (MSF), which don’t jump on natural disasters and use them as opportunistic marketing devices. Just make sure it’s unrestricted. The official MSF position is exactly right:

The ability of MSF teams to provide rapid and targeted medical care to those most in need in more than 60 countries around the world – whether in the media spotlight or not – depends on the generous general contributions of our donors worldwide. For this reason, MSF does not issue appeals for support for specific emergencies and this is why we do not include an area to specify a donation purpose on our on-line donation form. MSF would not have been able to act so swiftly in response to the emergency in Haiti, as an example, if not for the ongoing general support from our donors. So we always ask our supporters to consider making an unrestricted contribution.

I’ve just donated $400 in unrestricted funds to MSF. Some of it might go to Japan; all of it will go to areas where it’s sorely needed. I’d urge you to do the same, rather than try to target money at whichever disaster might be in the news today.

Update: Some bright spark has set up a “Socks for Japan” drive. I’m not making this up. I trust that none of my readers are silly enough to send socks to Japan, but this is a great indication of how wasteful a lot of well-intentioned giving can be.


http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/03/14/dont-donate-money-to-japan/

[Mithridate]

Is that how you justify being a non-caring tight @$$? Go ahead and sit on your hands and don't help because... somehow trying to help might hurt. You apply about as much logic to a situation as Glen Beck. You are in good company.

Have a nice day! And before you say anything stupid I donated $100 to the Red Cross specifically for Japan today. I really want to screw with those Japanese :mad:

Who said i did not help? And why would i be a bad person if i did not send money?

I guess paying 100 bucks and raging me makes you a much better person, and that you are not at all reacting in what i would call a selfish and quite close minded way.

Care to explain my lack of logic?

Good post arrowhead, but The red cross and its likes should still use this in order to harvest money that they can use where its needed. And since people work the way they do, it wont affect other donations much later on.