Million obligatory request for survival vs permanent

[ZoZo]

But for real, survival vs really should just be permanent. I get that Valve doesn't want to delude the player base over too many mutation types, thereby thinning numbers across the board.

But honestly, no offense, there are SO MANY bad players out there, and this game mode is just....just THE best training mode there is. It's fast, it's addictive, it's insanely fun, and any nub out there getting tanks that often and fast would HAVE to finally learn how to freaking use them.

I'm begging you, it would seriously reduce the number of people who can't keep from panicking and tunnel visioning when hoarded as WELL as reduce the amount of people who just run straight at survivors the second they get on, as though the tank has unlimited life and doesn't get cut to ribbons by T2/rifles.

Harsh as that sounded, it's the reality that exists in pub games.

To put it more genuinely and politely-> Versus isn't nearly as easily accessible to learn from as this mutation is. Do the community a favor, make this one a permanent in the DLC!

[TheCombatMedic]

I like the idea but as a training ground? Unlikely. Newbies wouldn't really learn a lot from a 2-4 minute game.

[Punishment]

If Valve were to make this mode permanent, they should change the scoring to a best of five, instead of the current scoring system, which IIRC ends the game after one team can't beat the other team's score.

[Rusty Woud]

idk, i wasnt too keen on it as it took away the whole aspect of survival, which was to prepare before holding out for aslong as you can, with the edition of vs theres no time to prepare as the other side will get bored and leave plus your playing against human players that are in most cases alot smarter or not as the case may be than bots, i would much rather see last man on earth be made permenant as that was an adrenaline rush like no other, but hey thats just my view and if its practice you want, then im all for it as the amount of crappy players on this game is unbelievable, youd think after two or so yrs youd be able to find a decent match but no, this game is newbs galore lmao, i believe it requires some touching up tho if it were to be made permenant

[TheCombatMedic]

Rusty, as far as I remember, Valve later added a 90 second timer to the survivors so that they don't dilly dally in preperation.

[Rusty Woud]

Rusty, as far as I remember, Valve later added a 90 second timer to the survivors so that they don't dilly dally in preperation.

ohhhh ok, well thats much better then, i still prefer the normal survival but tif thats the case it could be a bit more fun

[Thingy Person]

Yes, I love versus survival. It's also pretty good against ragequitting because failing dramatically has no direct consequences. It also puts survival maps to good use.

But I think they should incorporate the setup timer into the overhead survival clock (like with scavenge) instead of the chat-based thing it is now.

[zupalex]

Yeah, survival versus was great but some fix need to be done.

In fact, that's a pitty that the only decent versus mode is... the versus (sic) because let's face it, scavange is a really good idea, but there's a lack of challenge for survivors.

So definitly, making scavenge more challenging, and versus survival permanent would just make the game a lot better.