Realism is crap and lazy

[Speedy Thing]

If you want to know what "Realism" should have been then play Apocalypse mod on L4D1. Now that ♥♥♥♥ is where I feel I'm in an apocalypse.

[bluz74]

I would but I'm already to ascared to play realism. :o

[Animositisomina]

Delightful tale, ol' chap.

[Speedy Thing]

yes vote my thread down. That doesn't change the fact that it's a rushed crap mode. More people has put more effort in making server mod plug in than the deves with this lazy ♥♥♥ mode.

[Casus]

To bad it's for L4D1...

[Speedy Thing]

To bad it's for L4D1...

To bad that a man can make a mode better than what the trained developers can do.

[Bluefox112]

If you want to know what "Realism" should have been then play Apocalypse mod on L4D1. Now that ♥♥♥♥ is where I feel I'm in an apocalypse.

I don't know about Apocalypse, but Realism VS, even if it's not a huge development effort, is the only thing keeping me from abandoning L4D2.

Sometimes just a few design tweaks can make all the different, and Realism VS did that.

[DuckOfDeath]

I don't know about Apocalypse, but Realism VS, even if it's not a huge development effort, is the only thing keeping me from abandoning L4D2.

Sometimes just a few design tweaks can make all the different, and Realism VS did that.

Agreed. RSV is all I play. It's a blast.

[Speedy Thing]

I don't know about Apocalypse, but Realism VS, even if it's not a huge development effort, is the only thing keeping me from abandoning L4D2.

Sometimes just a few design tweaks can make all the different, and Realism VS did that.

Realism versus whatever, I'm mainly taking about campaign. I'm always talking about campaign.

Maps and modes should be different from campaign and versus.

Just like how Death Toll and No mercy maps were different in L4D1.

But L4D2 team got ♥♥♥♥ing lazy with No Mercy, and they just made the last map the same for both modes.

No closet at finally...idiots.

[Mambini]

RVS is great but SI play can get very sloppy.

One thing i like about the mode is:

"Oh, you want to rush alone ?"

"No glows for you boy!"

[Krandel]

If you don't like it, don't play it. It doesn't make it disappear from view, but it's not like you have to play it.

[DuckOfDeath]

But L4D2 team got ♥♥♥♥ing lazy with No Mercy, and they just made the last map the same for both modes.

No closet at finally...idiots.


Closets?!? You're upset about the lack of a closet in the port of NM? Seriously?!?

God, I hate people.

[Speedy Thing]

Closets?!? You're upset about the lack of a closet in the port of NM? Seriously?!?

God, I hate people.

And I hate you for not appreciating closets. There should be one at every finally.

That's why L4D1 is better. It followed a cretin agenda.

Not this rushed of a fest.

[Mambini]

And I hate you for not appreciating closets. There should be one at every finally.

That's why L4D1 is better. It followed a cretin agenda.

Not this rushed of a fest.

Play normal Campaign then if you like closets. It seems that Realism mode is still not for you or you start playing it on lower difficulties if you die a lot.

Just saying without any harm meant.

[wurrwurr]

No closet at finally...idiots.

Four people in tight space with only one exit, with bunch of commons preventing quick escape. And then Spitter appears. Do I have to explain further?

[RugbyOddjob]

And I hate you for not appreciating closets. There should be one at every finally.

That's why L4D1 is better. It followed a cretin agenda.

Not this rushed of a fest.

Not trollin but by the words you used did you mean;

cretin = CERTAIN

rushed of a fest - RUSH-FEST

? :confused:

[DuckOfDeath]

Four people in tight space with only one exit, with bunch of commons preventing quick escape. And then Spitter appears. Do I have to explain further?

Well, if he's only playing campaign mode, the AI SI might not have demonstrated the pain of executing such a strategy in L4D2. The OP is living proof that some people prefer the shiva stacking, closet camping, and overpowered survivors strategies from the original game.

[Brain_Explodes]

Not trollin but by the words you used did you mean;

cretin = CERTAIN

rushed of a fest - RUSH-FEST

? :confused:

Cretinism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretinism). That ♥♥♥♥ is serious business. :rolleyes:

[MMZ>Torak]

Not trollin but by the words you used did you mean;

cretin = CERTAIN

rushed of a fest - RUSH-FEST

? :confused:

Hiding in a closet IS a cretin agenda...

;)

[Speedy Thing]

Play normal Campaign then if you like closets. It seems that Realism mode is still not for you or you start playing it on lower difficulties if you die a lot.

Just saying without any harm meant.

I'm talking about the closet in NM map5 you idiot :)

I like having no respawn in realism :)

Four people in tight space with only one exit, with bunch of commons preventing quick escape. And then Spitter appears. Do I have to explain further?

Okay sir, so what? I'm talking about a closet for the player to respawn before the final showdown.

There are a lot of bad places to hold out, do you want them to remove them all?? It's not about that.

[PizzaSHARK!]

Realism versus whatever, I'm mainly taking about campaign. I'm always talking about campaign.

Maps and modes should be different from campaign and versus.

Just like how Death Toll and No mercy maps were different in L4D1.

But L4D2 team got ♥♥♥♥ing lazy with No Mercy, and they just made the last map the same for both modes.

No closet at finally...idiots.

Yeah, because campaign is SO HARD.

Oh, wait.

[JezMM]

I'd just like to add that I miss the closet for bot torturing purposes pre-finale and nothing more.



Though I think Realism mode is fine. "Realism" is just a name, it doesn't mean it's actually meant to be 100% realistic, just a different kind of challenge. "A bit harder than usual" mode doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

[Speedy Thing]

Well, if he's only playing campaign mode, the AI SI might not have demonstrated the pain of executing such a strategy in L4D2. The OP is living proof that some people prefer the shiva stacking, closet camping, and overpowered survivors strategies from the original game.

Look honey all OP is saying L4D2 team should have put more effort into realism mode.

[synthemesc]

And I hate you for not appreciating closets. There should be one at every finally.

That's why L4D1 is better. It followed a cretin agenda.

Not this rushed of a fest.


God forbid the finale's aren't carbon copy replica's of each other like l4d1. Nothing screams long term replay value like the never changing "hoarde/tank/hoarde/tank" finale formula. :rolleyes:

In your first post, I thought you might have a legitimate issue or idea that could possibly be used to improve l4d2. The more you post, however, its becoming apparent that you have no such intention and are posting here only to dump on l4d2.

If you dislike l4d2 so much, the dead l4d1 forum is for you. Join the l4d2 hatin circle-jerk! Its the cool thing to do!

[Mambini]

I'm talking about the closet in NM map5 you idiot :)

Closet = Camping = Brainless strategy :)

Anyway, you could always have it and deal with the spitter. Like it would be very effective but I'm the idiot, right ?

[Threesixtyci]

you do realize that half the stuff in Realism mode was done via requests from this forum.

[DuckOfDeath]

Look honey all OP is saying L4D2 team should have put more effort into realism mode.

Well, sugar plum, many of us don't equate effort with the number of closets available per map.

[Bluefox112]

Well, sugar plum, many of don't equate effort with the number of closets available per map.

I think there aren't enough receptionist desks on the final level of NM.

That ruined it for me.

[Brain_Explodes]

I think there aren't enough receptionist desks on the final level of NM.

That ruined it for me.

I think there aren't enough hot receptionist on the final level of NM.

That completely ruined it for me. :D

[subversive]

I enjoy realism because it encourages some use of tactics. Also, some weapons take on a new meaning; a bile is a very useful tool if timed right, and frag rounds aka "suicide rounds" are better off skipped. ;)

[AjBastian27]

To bad that a man can make a mode better than what the trained developers can do.

Personal opinion?

[Lim214]

Realism versus whatever, I'm mainly taking about campaign. I'm always talking about campaign.

No closet at finally...idiots.

Those two statements put you squarely in the brain-dead category.

no closet to exploit the facepalmingly easy finale in campaign mode? boo hoo.

[bloodfox1222]

You came to L4D2 to get the feeling that you are actually in a zombie apocalypse?...


Fayuil.

[source-maps]

RVS is great but SI play can get very sloppy.

One thing i like about the mode is:

"Oh, you want to rush alone ?"

"No glows for you boy!"

but you also got to agree that is usually the case if the survivor team is uncoordinated, put 2 competent teams against each other and you can't afford sloppy infected play :)

[PeeWee1477]

yes vote my thread down. That doesn't change the fact that it's a rushed crap mode. More people has put more effort in making server mod plug in than the deves with this lazy ♥♥♥ mode.

Your thread gets voted down because you put 3 seconds of effort into the initial post.

[Mambini]

but you also got to agree that is usually the case if the survivor team is uncoordinated, put 2 competent teams against each other and you can't afford sloppy infected play :)

Yes, I agree. There's no doubt about that. :cool:

[Jayjones]

Haters be hatin' on mah game

[Snookers]

I'd love realism mode if it balanced the weapons better.

And by weapons I mean Deagle. Deagle deagle deagle.

[wurrwurr]

Okay sir, so what? I'm talking about a closet for the player to respawn before the final showdown.
In versus, there are no closet respawns. In campaign... Why would you need to respawn on this map? It's not that difficult to get to roof without dying. Only thing that could kill you in that short hall is early tank.

[Backslider.r2]

So, I heard you liek mudkipz?

Oh I'm sorry, you're the trick with a closet fetish.

It's aight, baby. Your money is still green. Whatever gets you off...

*ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip*

Oh yeah, like what you see? 2'' oak panels. Engraved. Engraved, baby. Weather treated, so you know I like it rough. A built in door...snake, so you know I can keep you warm from all those chiwwy mean wittle drafts, uh-huh.

And the soundproofing...oh baby. It's practically memory foam. So high quality it should be in a....bed. So you can scream if you like honey. And check out this big, brass knocker...

[Animositisomina]

So, I heard you liek mudkipz?

Oh I'm sorry, you're the trick with a closet fetish.

It's aight, baby. Your money is still green. Whatever gets you off...

*ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip*

Oh yeah, like what you see? 2'' oak panels. Engraved. Engraved, baby. Weather treated, so you know I like it rough. A built in door...snake, so you know I can keep you warm from all those chiwwy mean wittle drafts, uh-huh.

And the soundproofing...oh baby. It's practically memory foam. So high quality it should be in a....bed. So you can scream if you like honey. And check out this big, brass knocker...


You're trying too hard.

[fpsbrian]

Just beat 2 camps on realism expert with 2 pubs and a friend in under 2 hours! Could have been harder but I think its fine!

[Newbpal]

What's different about apocalypse?

[Buick72]

I like realism a lot, just wish more people I knew would be willing to play it.

[Backslider.r2]

You're trying too hard.

No need to be jealous. There's plenty to go around.

[iwrestlebears]

To bad that a man can make a mode better than what the trained developers can do."I helped develop this mod, and spent countless hours making a well polished plug-in that no one will ever play due to l4d2's release. I'm also rather frustrated that Valve has decided to kill l4d1, and at my own lack of foresight to know it was coming the second l4d2 was announced."

Now that that's out of the way: yes, the l4d2 team is ♥♥♥♥ tier. We all know this, that's what a great majority of the posts here are about, either calling them terrible, or posting insightful ideas towards fixing a game in which they're too lazy to fix.

tl;dr: we all mad

[Keldorn]

I like realism a lot, just wish more people I knew would be willing to play it.


Realism expert is the best for campaign. It doesn't cater to casual players. So the gameplay is really better for experienced players. Maby thats why not many play it, there afraid of the difficulty of it.

I really hate realism expert scavenge finales though. There ridicolous even for veteran players.

[Dr.Boo.j2]

Fascinating thread.

[Krandel]

tl;dr: we all mad

I'm not mad.

Personally, I don't care if Valve ever fixes anything. To me, The game is fine the way it is now.

[john_volkov]

Realism expert is the best for campaign. It doesn't cater to casual players. So the gameplay is really better for experienced players. Maby thats why not many play it, there afraid of the difficulty of it.

I really hate realism expert scavenge finales though. There ridicolous even for veteran players.

I kind of got used to them , i know what cans to get and so on , but yeah if you don't have a veteran player it's hard as hell especiali The Passing.

[source-maps]

I'm not mad.

Personally, I don't care if Valve ever fixes anything. To me, The game is fine the way it is now.

yeah I love balance issues, glitches and bugs as well :)
I love rage quitting the most, so much fun

[PizzaSHARK!]

Realism expert is the best for campaign. It doesn't cater to casual players. So the gameplay is really better for experienced players. Maby thats why not many play it, there afraid of the difficulty of it.

I really hate realism expert scavenge finales though. There ridicolous even for veteran players.

Realism Expert might be hard if you're one of those people that camps and shops all day instead of pushes forward.

Seriously, the reason people suck at Expert is because they think they need to take it slow. You can quite easily solo most Expert maps simply by moving quickly and taking advantage of the terrible SI AI and the fact that CI don't despawn as you go out of detection range of them.

[AjBastian27]

Realism Expert might be hard if you're one of those people that camps and shops all day instead of pushes forward.

Seriously, the reason people suck at Expert is because they think they need to take it slow. You can quite easily solo most Expert maps simply by moving quickly and taking advantage of the terrible SI AI and the fact that CI don't despawn as you go out of detection range of them.

Going slow and scavengins is half the fun in the game! :) And it makes it feel scarier and more intense.