[HF Related] VAC bans in Batches You say?????

[Scratch1]

Well I haven't had any experience with VAC and how it works, until HOMEFRONT.....and I am like :confused: , so I read the forums and I see a lot of posts about VAC doing its thing in batches and not instant...I kind of see the reasoning for this.

Posters say, play in ADMIN regulated servers, good idea, until what happened in my server last night. We had a player come in, and right away it was obvious of their "Super Natural skills". Started talkin smack, said We couldnt touch him.....well they were right. I couldnt ban through in game RCON...even tried the generic Procon2 made available, and still could not do anything. I had never come across a hacker that I couldn't ban/kick. So in this case, INSTANT is better.

Anyone else had this encounter in HOMEFRONT?

here was the players name as we saw it in game: Inamorta AA

here was the players name as I saw it in ProCon2: [AA. Net]Inаmortа AA

And is it verified that VAC is NOT activated in HomeFront PC

[Fyndir]

And is it verified that VAC is NOT activated in HomeFront PC

Then I don't see how an instant banning solution would be any better, if for some reason it wasn't active at all.

This sounds like the problem has less to do with VAC itself, and more to do with the game, to me, but I could be mistaken.

[Scratch1]

Well the server was full, and this individual pretty much cleared it.....and left when they apparently got bored....I am just use to being able to ban via ip,name,pbguid, etc.....I am just trying to see the plus side to VAC regulated games

[Hedy Lamarr]

Stop buying CoD style games. They attract cheaters like flies to ♥♥♥♥.

If the game is entirely based on air strikes, noob tubing, camping and exploiting, then yeah.....it's going to appeal to the 13 year-old cheater crowd.

You didn't see this coming? Homefront is the new MW2.

[Scratch1]

You didn't see this coming? Homefront is the new MW2.

We didnt play MW2 or BO, got enough bs from MW1.....

[Hedy Lamarr]

I am just trying to see the plus side to VAC regulated games

You can see how I would assume you're a CoD veteran with that quote.

[PhamousVegas]

And is it verified that VAC is NOT activated in HomeFront PC

Ya know you can check yourself... VAC creates a file in your temp directory.
EDIT: I haven't checked myself by the way, I had no need to since luckily I haven't spotted any cheaters yet.

Though by doing a quick Google search I see no one complaining about being Vacced, which is weird...

[Fyndir]

I am just use to being able to ban via ip,name,pbguid, etc.....

How you ban people from a server you administrate is down to the game code, not the anti-cheat in use, which is what I was getting at.

VAC works well in a lot of games, which suggests that when there are a smaller number of games in which people report problems, the problem is more with the game than VAC itself.

That was really all I meant.

[chuckdawobbly]

Inamorta is totally ruining this game for me. I left the game for hours and came back and he/she is still on there, sucking the fun out of server after server. At the moment homefront is not fun and i play other games because one player hasn't yet been banned.

[cylon]

If a server administrator can't ban someone from a server for whatever reason, chances are that VAC would have a problem kicking them out too.

Possibly a problem with how (whoever makes) Homefront server files are being setup ?

[JudgeofShadow]

Inamorta has a friend named Geribaldi AaA you can see him here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16wkEdxYLg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

If it were possible Id take note of the tags and globally ban them in admin.

[damaged]

In the meantime, why don't you just add his ip (actually his whole subnet is better, at least a /24, a /16 is better) to your deny list in your firewall (iptables in linux and advanced firewall settings in windows).

[Dirtman73]

Stop buying CoD style games. They attract cheaters like flies to ♥♥♥♥.

If the game is entirely based on air strikes, noob tubing, camping and exploiting, then yeah.....it's going to appeal to the 13 year-old cheater crowd.

You didn't see this coming? Homefront is the new MW2.

The game's quality is irrelevant to the OP's concerns. He's talking about the VAC process, not the gameplay itself. I don't know why you insist on bringing this up again.

In the meantime, why don't you just add his ip (actually his whole subnet is better, at least a /24, a /16 is better) to your deny list in your firewall (iptables in linux and advanced firewall settings in windows).

What good is that going to do the OP in a multiplayer game?

[Hedy Lamarr]

The game's quality is irrelevant to the OP's concerns. He's talking about the VAC process, not the gameplay itself. I don't know why you insist on bringing this up again.

The game's "quality" is what's attracting the cheaters.

[Dirtman73]

The game's "quality" is what's attracting the cheaters.

BC2 has cheaters. ArmA II has cheaters. Quality has nothing to do with it. People like to cheat, and they will use any medium available to do that.

[Zefar]

BC2 has cheaters. ArmA II has cheaters. Quality has nothing to do with it. People like to cheat, and they will use any medium available to do that.

Actually in terms of Quality, BC2 and Arma 2 are better than MW2 and Black Ops. Though all of those are better than homefront.

But yes Quality usually means nothing for cheaters. It's the popularity a game has that increases the cheaters.

MW2 being ultra popular had tons of cheaters in it. With no way to admin the rounds it was just heaven for a while.

[PhamousVegas]

Actually in terms of Quality, BC2 and Arma 2 are better than MW2 and Black Ops. Though all of those are better than homefront

Personally I prefer Homefront over Black Ops.
Just me though.

I would say it varies for each individual cheater, you can't generalize them.
They are humans too, we are all different.

Some of them may be attracted to quality, some may be attracted to population.
Everyone, or a lot of people, will have a different take on what makes a game quality though.

[Still think Cheaters are ♥♥♥♥♥♥bags for ruining games, of course.]

[Ace42]

But yes Quality usually means nothing for cheaters. It's the popularity a game has that increases the cheaters.

Incorrect. In a purely generalised sense, of course a game with hundreds of thousands of players is going to have more cheaters than a game with a playerbase of precisely 3 people; even if 100% of those three people cheat. But more specifically it tends to be how *unforgiving* a game is (high lethality, insta-kill-headshots, long respawn times or waves, particularly "out of the rest of the round" games such as CS, anything that penalises deaths significantly or rewards kills disproportionately) combined with how open an engine is that determines how likely a game is to be covered with hackers.

That said, anti-cheat software and an effective anti-cheating community can stem the tide.