Pre-load ?

[Inferiorum]

HI folks,


I was just wondering whether there will be a preload option on Steam or GoG ?

I was searching the forums but obviously did not find anything about it.

Infe


Ps: Sorry for my bad english....but I'm Austrian.

[JayShadow]

Still no word on if there will be a pre-load or not. The company has a press conference tomorrow, so maybe there will be news then.

[Inferiorum]

Thanks, hopefully there will indeed be some interesting news :)

Infe

[JayShadow]

They announced Pre-Loading will only be abailable on gog.com

[makke007]

Yepp right only on GOG :(

[mochabootysweat]

This really blows! Can we get an official confirmation that Steam is not going to offer pre-loading?

LINK TO GOG-EXCLUSIVE PRE-LOAD ANNOUNCEMENT (http://i52.tinypic.com/29y5f11.jpg)

One of the main reasons I buy games on Steam is so that I can pre-install and begin playing at 12:01am on launch day.

For those of you who have pre-ordered lots of games on Steam, have there been some cases where Steam did not offer pre-load in the past?

So far, every game I pre-ordered has been available for pre-install.

[Inferiorum]

Yes Assassins Creed 2: Brotherhood had no pre-load option, infact you were not even able to load it on release day...only 1 or 2 days after release were you allowed to download it.

[Sm0]

The Witcher 2 will only be available for pre-load on GoG.com(Exclusive) I have the steam version myself, but I'm not worrying too much about this.

Pre-load starts from May 10 for all who pre-ordered on Gog.

[JayShadow]

For those of you who have pre-ordered lots of games on Steam, have there been some cases where Steam did not offer pre-load in the past?Yes, many times. Far more games don't have a pre-load than do. You've just been lucky enough to get all the right games.

[mochabootysweat]

Arrgh! thanks for letting me know guys.

I guess in the future I will no longer pre-order on Steam until a few days before the release date, when i can be certain of pre-load.

My first Steam pre-order was Civ5 (pre-load), then Fallout New Vegas (pre-load), then Dragon Age 2 (pre-load). Sadly, I thought all Steam pre-orders would be the same, so I ordered Witcher 2 as well.

[archurban]

Yes Assassins Creed 2: Brotherhood had no pre-load option, infact you were not even able to load it on release day...only 1 or 2 days after release were you allowed to download it.

well, no. it offered pre-load unofficially (in the backdoor --> very specific website address).

[apoc_reg]

It may seem like a big deal for those 24 hrs... but a month later you'll be glad TW2 is in your steam apps updating automatically etc etc rather than a seperate peice of non steam software.

[crysisfreak]

steamworks? I have a friend picking it up for me at Gamestop...couldn't fight the (employee discount)20% off price!

[killamockingbrd]

This really blows! Can we get an official confirmation that Steam is not going to offer pre-loading?

LINK TO GOG-EXCLUSIVE PRE-LOAD ANNOUNCEMENT (http://i52.tinypic.com/29y5f11.jpg)

One of the main reasons I buy games on Steam is so that I can pre-install and begin playing at 12:01am on launch day.

For those of you who have pre-ordered lots of games on Steam, have there been some cases where Steam did not offer pre-load in the past?

So far, every game I pre-ordered has been available for pre-install.

You must buy few games then because rarely are games given pre-load outside of Valve's games. And even then, rarely are games unlocked at 12:01 am.

[mochabootysweat]

You must buy few games then because rarely are games given pre-load outside of Valve's games. And even then, rarely are games unlocked at 12:01 am.

My first 4 Steam pre-orders were

Civ 5 (pre-load, unlocked at 12:01am)
Fallout New Vegas (pre-load, unlocked at 12:01am)
Dragon Age II (pre-load, unlocked at 12:05am - for some reason took a few extra minutes)
Witcher 2 (apparently no pre-load unless CD Projekt changes their mind and decides to throw us a bone)

[This_Guy]

No Pre-load doesn't bother me. I'll go home at lunch and start the install. By the time I get home and am ready to play it, it will be "pre-loaded" and waiting for me.

[mochabootysweat]

Any chance someone decided to throw us a bone and let us pre-load this game a couple days early?

[nuO3-Lzuruha]

well my broadband is fairly good (16-20MB) yet i know it'll take couple of hours to download 16GB :/ if they'll allow me to start my download at 6am on 17th of may i'd be happy if earlier the better :D

[mochabootysweat]

well my broadband is fairly good (16-20MB) yet i know it'll take couple of hours to download 16GB :/ if they'll allow me to start my download at 6am on 17th of may i'd be happy if earlier the better :D

Do you think we won't even be able to begin downloading at 12:01am on May 17?
:eek:

That would be rubbing salt on the wound IMO.

[enemyofportal]

I checked time difference between here (san francisco, CA) and Poland. the country is 9 hours faster. so now, it is already Saturday midnight over there. it should be preloading. even Fable 3 is available today which I didn't expect at all because it is damn MS. it's kind of surprise. so make me surprise today.

[ViRuS2k]

seriously they need to let us preload this game
it will bring steam down to a halt as i can assure you this game will sell ♥♥♥♥ LOADS of copys and if we get the unlock and preload at the same time its going to take a couple of days for people to grab it which will in turn piss a lot of people off.

not me though as i have a fast connection and can get about 16gb in about 1 hour 30 minutes.

still though if it grinds steam download speed to less than 1meg it will annoy even me.

[Inverness Moon]

I'm very disappointed with whoever arranged for the preloading to be exclusive to GoG. Preloading exists so that everyone isn't hammering the download server at once when the game is released. It's not something that should be made exclusive unless you want to cause problems for Valve and the people trying to download from them.

Either way, I'm not going to cancel my preorder over something as minor as this. I will just have to find other means to ensure that the files are installed and ready to play when the release happens.

[ViRuS2k]

.........................

[Inverness Moon]

...Steam isn't going to magically recognize a game without a preloading function as preloaded just because the files are there.

What you need to do is wait till release day and start the download when you can. Once the installation folder is created, stop the download, copy the files over, then restart the download. Steam should then verify the existing files and only download anything that is missing or of an incorrect version.

...I agree. The whole lack of preloading thing is ridiculous for such a popular title.

Perhaps if Valve used BitTorrent or something for distributing files I wouldn't mind as much, but they don't. I'll inevitably end up switching regions just to get a decent download speed.

[Foe89]

A dev answering a Q/A for Gamestop on Facebook said there would be a Steam preload, but for some reason I'm not believing him.

[picary]

No preload yet... :(

[cookiva]

I'm very disappointed with whoever arranged for the preloading to be exclusive to GoG.

Is this a joke post? CD Projekt (the developers of The Witcher series) runs GoG. Why wouldn't they try to get more sales through their site advertising not only the preload but the absence of DRM? If Valve allowed D2D to sell Valve games, I'm sure they would do the same exact thing.


This is just silliness. Like someone else said, you won't even remember this in a month. Hell, you won't even remember it 10 minutes after you start playing the game. Pure silliness.

[Paul_cz]

This is The Internet.

People are always getting ANGRY on it.Over anything.And forgetting about it 5 minutes later.

[Aryma]

I hope for a preload..

16GB is a lot of data and if its held back until release day its going to cause a ton of slowdown for people trying to download the game.

[Inverness Moon]

Is this a joke post? CD Projekt (the developers of The Witcher series) runs GoG. Why wouldn't they try to get more sales through their site advertising not only the preload but the absence of DRM? If Valve allowed D2D to sell Valve games, I'm sure they would do the same exact thing.Denying preloading for Steam users puts their Steam customers at a disadvantage. They have to wait longer to play since they have to wait to download, and many download servers will be congested. This is apparently a 16GB game after all. There are better ways to advertise their website.

And no, I doubt Valve would do the same thing. They don't play games like that. But either way, you clearly have nothing substantial to base your claim on. "They'd do it too if they could" isn't a good argument.

This is just silliness. Like someone else said, you won't even remember this in a month. Hell, you won't even remember it 10 minutes after you start playing the game. Pure silliness.I don't know about other people, but I won't forget it. Of course, the way you say that makes me thinks I'm raging and up in arms about it. I'm not. I'm don't really care that I might have to wait a few hours longer to play the game. However, I'm not going to forget that the wait was entirely avoidable and should have been.

[bgriffin87]

Won't be the end of the world for me if there is no preload. I have finals and work all week, won't be able to play until this upcoming Friday. :(

[cookiva]

Denying preloading for Steam users puts their Steam customers at a disadvantage.

Exactly.....

:confused:

GoG is a CD Projekt Red site. Of course they want to have the best version on their own site. Why complain about preload when a bigger deal is the fact that the GoG version is DRM free? That is a bigger deal to Steam users than waiting an extra couple of hours to play the game.


This is apparently a 16GB game after all. There are better ways to advertise their website.


16GB includes the foreign language tracks and extra content, which you can choose not to download. TW1 did the same thing. Pre-loading from GoG is slightly under 10GB.

And no, I doubt Valve would do the same thing. They don't play games like that. But either way, you clearly have nothing substantial to base your claim on. "They'd do it too if they could" isn't a good argument.


How about this. Why doesn't Valve even sell their games on sites like D2D? If they don't play games like that, then why don't they sell games digitally on other sites?


I don't know about other people, but I won't forget it. Of course, the way you say that makes me thinks I'm raging and up in arms about it. I'm not. I'm don't really care that I might have to wait a few hours longer to play the game. However, I'm not going to forget that the wait was entirely avoidable and should have been.

This is silly. Just enjoy the game. No reason to be upset that you have to wait a couple of extra hours due to a pre-order bonus for GoG buyers.

[mochabootysweat]

Denying preloading for Steam users puts their Steam customers at a disadvantage. They have to wait longer to play since they have to wait to download, and many download servers will be congested. This is apparently a 16GB game after all. There are better ways to advertise their website.

And no, I doubt Valve would do the same thing. They don't play games like that. But either way, you clearly have nothing substantial to base your claim on. "They'd do it too if they could" isn't a good argument.
I don't know about other people, but I won't forget it. Of course, the way you say that makes me thinks I'm raging and up in arms about it. I'm not. I'm don't really care that I might have to wait a few hours longer to play the game. However, I'm not going to forget that the wait was entirely avoidable and should have been.

I have to agree - one of the reasons why I pre-ordered this game on Steam back in December or January was precisely because every other game I've pre-ordered on Steam has allowed pre-load

Exactly.....

Why complain about preload when a bigger deal is the fact that the GoG version is DRM free? That is a bigger deal to Steam users than waiting an extra couple of hours to play the game.

Personally I have no problem with Steam DRM. Every single software application I buy for Windows has some kind of DRM. Why should games be any different.

Actually I think it's a pretty strange decision to release a game without any DRM. Why invite more piracy? If a game lacks DRM it isn't going to make me suddenly go out and buy a game I have no interest in. Not really a good marketing feature.

[nightside187]

Again another fail ,gaming industry keep doing it rong, i pre-purchased this game 17 dec 2010 and i have to wait for the release to download the game because of a small ♥♥♥ war between some retailers,the paying customers is always getting shafted .

[ViRuS2k]

Again another fail ,gaming industry keep doing it rong, i pre-purchased this game 17 dec 2010 and i have to wait for the release to download the game because of a small ♥♥♥ war between some retailers,the paying customers is always getting shafted .

isnt it always this way

[Inverness Moon]

Exactly.....

:confused:

GoG is a CD Projekt Red site. Of course they want to have the best version on their own site. Why complain about preload when a bigger deal is the fact that the GoG version is DRM free? That is a bigger deal to Steam users than waiting an extra couple of hours to play the game.
The GoG version being DRM free is not a big deal at all for Steam users, like myself, who have no problem with Steam's default minimalist DRM scheme.

And having preloading doesn't make it a better version, it just makes other people wait longer and congests the download servers. It's an excessively cheap way to try to acquire an advantage.

16GB includes the foreign language tracks and extra content, which you can choose not to download. TW1 did the same thing. Pre-loading from GoG is slightly under 10GB.
That sounds better then.

How about this. Why doesn't Valve even sell their games on sites like D2D? If they don't play games like that, then why don't they sell games digitally on other sites?

Valve's games are highly integrated with Steam and Steamworks. If you sold them on D2D you'd have to get Steam anyways apparently.

Also, D2D refused to sell Modern Warfare 2 because it used Steamworks, requiring Steam to run it. They called Steam a "trojan".

That might be part of it. Also, let's not forget that Steam was around and immensely successful before other digital distributors emerged. Valve isn't going to feel the need to decouple their games from Steam in order to sell them with other digital distributors.

This is silly. Just enjoy the game. No reason to be upset that you have to wait a couple of extra hours due to a pre-order bonus for GoG buyers.Perhaps you should stop assuming I'm "upset" about this or won't enjoy the game.

You don't need to be upset to be disappointed and/or displeased that pre-loading might be denied for Steam users.

[LaptopNut]

<--snip-->

Personally I have no problem with Steam DRM. Every single software application I buy for Windows has some kind of DRM. Why should games be any different.

Actually I think it's a pretty strange decision to release a game without any DRM. Why invite more piracy? If a game lacks DRM it isn't going to make me suddenly go out and buy a game I have no interest in. Not really a good marketing feature.

I have no problem with DRM in games either, but when we already have Steam acting as a form of DRM, with us proving ownership by purchasing it on our own accounts as well as using a CD key then why do we have Securom added on top?

It serves absolutely no purpose and is completely unnecessary.

[Kaedex]

I'll grab the ISO as soon as it's available and put the files in the steam directory so I can avoid downloading all that data from steam.. I bet it will be clogged x_x

[Kelton312]

I'll grab the ISO as soon as it's available and put the files in the steam directory so I can avoid downloading all that data from steam.. I bet it will be clogged x_x

Whoa does that usually work?

[Standoff]

Also, D2D refused to sell Modern Warfare 2 because it used Steamworks, requiring Steam to run it. They called Steam a "trojan".

Did they really? It's on their store right now. Impulse is carrying Steamworks titles now also, though not all of them.

[soundcreepy]

Did they really? It's on their store right now. Impulse is carrying Steamworks titles now also, though not all of them.

D2D and Impulse tried to boycott steamworks, but it worked to a disadvantage, so they (mostly) gave up.

[Standoff]

D2D and Impulse tried to boycott steamworks, but it worked to a disadvantage, so they (mostly) gave up.
Impulse didn't give up under the original owners. The new owners have different opinions (hell, they already sell Steamworks games in their stores, it'd be ridiculous to take the 'high horse' on one storefront and not on another.)

[Inverness Moon]

D2D and Impulse tried to boycott steamworks, but it worked to a disadvantage, so they (mostly) gave up.How did it end up as a disadvantage?

I only know they boycotted it because it became news. I know nothing about what happened afterwards or about the apparent reversal.

[Maratus_volans]

They could at least make it available 3 hours before lunch. so i can play it at at 7 pm:D

[mochabootysweat]

I have no problem with DRM in games either, but when we already have Steam acting as a form of DRM, with us proving ownership by purchasing it on our own accounts as well as using a CD key then why do we have Securom added on top?

It serves absolutely no purpose and is completely unnecessary.

Huh? They don't have 2 different kinds of DRM on the same build. I don't think that would even be possible.

Steamworks DRM is separate from Securom. Any game sold through Steam has Steamworks DRM only. The SecuRom is on the physical disc you buy from the store, or maybe if Witcher 2 is also sold through some other source like D2D.

I think the GOG version has no DRM, but as a consumer it is not something that would make me want to buy the game any more from GOG. I have never had any problem with Steamworks DRM, and I can play offline or transfer games when switching computers with no problem.

However, I am interested in canceling my Steam pre-order and buying from GOG for the sole reason that I can't pre-load the game through Steam. If I can cancel my pre-order, I would prefer to start playing at 12:01am on May 17.

[d34dite]

no preload on steam,d2d or any other online shop... it has been said many many times that the preload is a GOG EXCLUSIVE.. so we wait
/thread

[cybertom69]

This is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shame. Game unlocks Tuesday around 6 pm, which means downloading what, 16 gig when everybody else does, servers busy beyond capacity, there will be no way to start gaming earlier than Wednesday. Really can't believe that Valve wasn't able to negotiate a preload with the publisher for steam, not impressed.

[gentlefury]

This is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shame. Game unlocks Tuesday around 6 pm, which means downloading what, 16 gig when everybody else does, servers busy beyond capacity, there will be no way to start gaming earlier than Wednesday. Really can't believe that Valve wasn't able to negotiate a preload with the publisher for steam, not impressed.

I'll be lucky to get started before Fri.

[Dazzled]

This is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shame. Game unlocks Tuesday around 6 pm, which means downloading what, 16 gig when everybody else does, servers busy beyond capacity, there will be no way to start gaming earlier than Wednesday. Really can't believe that Valve wasn't able to negotiate a preload with the publisher for steam, not impressed.

It gets worse... Fable III is also released on the 17th so that make two huge RPG games that everyone will be downloading at the same time.

[aringoth]

A lot of people must be new to steam or not buy many games. I have 250 games in my steam library, and perhaps only 15 or less have been pre-loads.

[gentlefury]

It gets worse... Fable III is also released on the 17th so that make two huge RPG games that everyone will be downloading at the same time.

How is the Fable series? I've never played any of them but have heard good things....that goes back 2 games and MANY years....would be hard to get into that one so late.

[Dazzled]

How is the Fable series? I've never played any of them but have heard good things....that goes back 2 games and MANY years....would be hard to get into that one so late.

Fable one was a good RPG for the PC. Nothing spectacular but still fun enough for me to finish it.
Fable II - console only so I don't care for it.
Fable III is supposed to be improved for the PC but all reviews I've seen describe it as a horrible, lazy port. So I won't be wasting any of my time trying it, especially not with the Witcher 2 just coming out.

[gentlefury]

Fable one was a good RPG for the PC. Nothing spectacular but still fun enough for me to finish it.
Fable II - console only so I don't care for it.
Fable III is supposed to be improved for the PC but all reviews I've seen describe it as a horrible, lazy port. So I won't be wasting any of my time trying it, especially not with the Witcher 2 just coming out.

Good to know, thanks

[lgm1979]

How is the Fable series? I've never played any of them but have heard good things....that goes back 2 games and MANY years....would be hard to get into that one so late.

Peter Molyneux, the creator of Fable, said recently that Fable 3 was so easy a child could beat it playing with their feet. And he was proud of that fact!

I hate to sound elitist, but those Fable games are noob rpg's for console folk.

[gentlefury]

Peter Molyneux, the creator of Fable, said recently that Fable 3 was so easy a child could beat it playing with their feet. And he was proud of that fact!

I hate to sound elitist, but those Fable games are noob rpg's for console folk.

Why would anyone be happy about that?? That means its basically a 20 hour movie with some really easy fight breaks....no thanks! I like that I get my ♥♥♥ kicked occasionally on witcher! Its fun playing a game you can die in! And health potions actual poison you at the same time...which is a cool caveat, makes you not abuse them.

[bes]

Any game over 8gigs they need to have a pre-load option ..

I can get 2mb/s out of Steam ...but not if everyone and their mother is downloading it at the same time... its gonna take AGES..

[General Balls]

It sort of works out well for me. All that time downloading is more time spent working, so I can be somewhat productive before the game takes over my consciousness.

[NiteHyeway]

It gets worse... Fable III is also released on the 17th so that make two huge RPG games that everyone will be downloading at the same time.

Good thing Fable III pre load is up, people who pre purchased the game won't be downloading it on the 17th...

[Mallorn666]

Damn.. I cleared my agenda to start playing The Witcher tuesdag evening. No pre-load on Steam and the game unlocks at around 18:00 (CET) so I'll be downloading for many hours.
Probably no Witcher 2 for me this week :(

(Gog is not an option for me... I'd like to stick to Steam)

[killamockingbrd]

That's ridiculous it's unlocking so late.

[Mallorn666]

Yeah. I would like to see them unlock it at 0:00. So I can get up in the morning, startup the download, go to work and start playing in the evening.

[enemyofportal]

well, according to their website, collector's edition will be unlocked at 00:01 May 15th. for digital edition (steam and gog), it will be at 09:01 May 17th.

if some of you bought collector's edition, you should play already now.

[Civerneix]

well, according to their website, collector's edition will be unlocked at 00:01 May 15th. for digital edition (steam and gog), it will be at 09:01 May 17th.

if some of you bought collector's edition, you should play already now.

CE and the press release are currently having problems with the additional ~50MB SecuRom data download, and neither is working at the moment.

[Maratus_volans]

Yeah. I would like to see them unlock it at 0:00. So I can get up in the morning, startup the download, go to work and start playing in the evening.

Thats exactly what i am hoping...:D, tomorow wake up...strat dl. and then as soon as i come from work play the game....i know i know...its just a dream...:rolleyes:

[FroggystyleXZ95]

Fable one was a good RPG for the PC. Nothing spectacular but still fun enough for me to finish it.
Fable II - console only so I don't care for it.
Fable III is supposed to be improved for the PC but all reviews I've seen describe it as a horrible, lazy port. So I won't be wasting any of my time trying it, especially not with the Witcher 2 just coming out.

Fable 2 was awful, I bought it used for 360. One of the worst RPG's I've probably ever played. They put so much fluff and crap into the NPC "interactions" that the main story was about 7 hours long itself. So basically, you'd spend just as much time farting in front of your wife as you would spend on the main story.

I've heard Fable 3 was worse than Fable 2, so I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot poll honestly.

[Fr0s7y]

It's a shame Steam wasn't able to offer a pre-load. I went ahead and cancelled my pre-order through them just to get it from GOG. Earlier unlock time, too.

[mochabootysweat]

well, according to their website, collector's edition will be unlocked at 00:01 May 15th. for digital edition (steam and gog), it will be at 09:01 May 17th.

if some of you bought collector's edition, you should play already now.

My understanding is that the quoted times above are for GMT. 9:01am GMT, right?

So that means everyone in the US gets it starting at 2:01am PST on May 17?

[bes]

Thats exactly what i am hoping...:D, tomorow wake up...strat dl. and then as soon as i come from work play the game....i know i know...its just a dream...:rolleyes:

If not..nite time would be good too....download it while im sleeping and it should be done when I get up..

[Jhaxavier]

My understanding is that the quoted times above are for GMT. 9:01am GMT, right?

So that means everyone in the US gets it starting at 4:01pm PST on May 16?

my timezone is PST (GMT-8) and it says on the Steam countdown timer it'll be open tomorrow at 10 AM.

But if that quoted time is for 9:01 AM GMT it should be coming out at 1 AM PST?

[Fr0s7y]

my timezone is PST (GMT-8) and it says on the Steam countdown timer it'll be open tomorrow at 10 AM.

But if that quoted time is for 9:01 AM GMT it should be coming out at 1 AM PST?

As far as I know the 7AM GMT unlock time is only if you purchased through GOG.com

Steam still appears to be set to unlock tomorrow at 10AM PST

[skycracksopen]

So it won't unlock until AFTER I leave for work tomorrow, so I won't even be able to download it while I'm gone.

A 12:01am PST would have been nice. Now I basically have to wait until Wednesday.

[bes]

This game will unlock in approximately 1 day and 2 hours

Its 8:50AM atm here (mountain time) .. so sometime in the morning it should be available ..

[skycracksopen]

Yeah, but isn't that the unlock time for downloads also?

I'm mountain time also.

So we probably won't be able to start downloading it until about 11am tomorrow, and the game files are pretty big, so we won't be able to play until the afternoon at the earliest.

But I don't get home from work until about midnight tomorrow, so that's when I can start downloading it, and I won't have it until Wednesday.

I was looking forward to playing it tomorrow, but that's not going to happen unless I cancel my order and go pick it up at a local store.

[mochabootysweat]

Yeah, but isn't that the unlock time for downloads also?

I'm mountain time also.

So we probably won't be able to start downloading it until about 11am tomorrow, and the game files are pretty big, so we won't be able to play until the afternoon at the earliest.

But I don't get home from work until about midnight tomorrow, so that's when I can start downloading it, and I won't have it until Wednesday.

I was looking forward to playing it tomorrow, but that's not going to happen unless I cancel my order and go pick it up at a local store.

I'm told if you can cancel your order and order the digital version from GOG.com, you can start downloading early.

I'm not sure if there is enough time to cancel the Steam pre-order, however, never canceled anything on Steam before. How does it work?

[skycracksopen]

I'm not sure. I suppose it probably isn't worth it for me though, since I'll be working all day tomorrow anyway.

I was just hoping to have it loaded by the time I got home. I'll just stop being so impatient and wait until Wednesday.

[enemyofportal]

My understanding is that the quoted times above are for GMT. 9:01am GMT, right?

So that means everyone in the US gets it starting at 2:01am PST on May 17?

in website, it says 'UTC' which England is one hour ahead during summer time. yeah, I guess it is the same as GMT? I am in PST which 8 hours behind. so it will be playable at 1AM, May 17th

[Standoff]

Mine'll take a few days of nonstop downloading to grab, so this no preload thing is crap. Low blow by CD Projekt, I'm certainly less interested in their offerings past this point.

Fortunately I just got Shogun 2 at the store and am almost done getting the updates, and am still playing Brink too.

[UltimateGrr]

How is it CD Red's fault for Steam not offering a pre-load?

[Demon Wraith]

How is it CD Red's fault for Steam not offering a pre-load?

It's not CD Red's fault. It's CD Project's fault. I'm almost entirely certain they need permission to do a pre-load. But CD Project wanted GoG to have it exclusively.

Which is okay for me since I bought from there.

[aznguyen316]

It's because CDProjekt and GoG are sister companies that are located in the same building. They are able to ensure no leaks that way and can offer the preload since they're basically the same.

[UltimateGrr]

But that still doesn't make a lick of sence. All pre-loads are encrypted, so what would be leaked? You could crack it, sure, but that would probably take just as long, if not longer, to do then it would be to wait for it.

More importantly, once the client is pre-loaded for the end user, the devs have no control over it, which means it can be sent anywhere. If the devs are worried about leaks, why offer a pre-load at all? Doubly so when the GOG version has no DRM?

[Dazzled]

But that still doesn't make a lick of sence. All pre-loads are encrypted, so what would be leaked? You could crack it, sure, but that would probably take just as long, if not longer, to do then it would be to wait for it.

More importantly, once the client is pre-loaded for the end user, the devs have no control over it, which means it can be sent anywhere. If the devs are worried about leaks, why offer a pre-load at all? Doubly so when the GOG version has no DRM?

The GoG preoload is not encrypted ! It's simply missing about a hundred 100mb which people will be able to download when the game is officially released.

As far as protections go it's got simplicity and effectiveness going for it. It's a bit hard to imagine for mere hackers spontaneously adding a hundred megabytes worth of coding in just a couple of days :D

All the DRM is only supposed to stop the game from leaking to the pirates before the release date. After that it will not even need to be cracked. I agree with CD Project protecting their paying customers in this way.

[Mironator]

I don't get it why ppl are struggling so hard because of a few hours. And even if you can start to play one day later then the GoG- and Retail-Customers: who cares. It's just one ♥♥♥♥ing day for something small like a videogame. Some ppl need to rejust their priorities it seems for me. Sorry for my bad English but I can't understand ppl panicking around when they will be able to play. This would just be to much of a bother for me. When I can't play TW2 tomorrow after work then it will be so. Of course a bit sadly but there it ends... As long as I can play TW2 the next days I do not care about one or two days. I waited way too long for TW2 that this lil' ruin wouldn't ruin my fun.

Just my 2 cents...

[Standoff]

As long as I can play TW2 the next days I do not care about one or two days.

Just my 2 cents...
We don't all have super broadband. I'm on 3g wireless myself. I'd be surprised if it only took two days to download.

Meanwhile, because the company involved were jerks, their PREFERRED customers will get special treatment, because apparently the other hundreds of thousands of people aren't good enough for them.

[enemyofportal]

well, I don't care, too. the reason why people here post like this? because mostly they are ♥♥♥♥ing students or college kids. they have tons of time to do whatever they want. like me or you, we are so busy to work our ♥♥♥ off. we don't even have to play it all day. so just ignore kids.

[rupok2]

well, I don't care, too. the reason why people here post like this? because mostly they are ♥♥♥♥ing students or college kids. they have tons of time to do whatever they want. like me or you, we are so busy to work our ♥♥♥ off. we don't even have to play it all day. so just ignore kids.

LOL this guy thinks college gives u a lot of free time.

[Standoff]

well, I don't care, too. the reason why people here post like this? because mostly they are ♥♥♥♥ing students or college kids. they have tons of time to do whatever they want. like me or you, we are so busy to work our ♥♥♥ off. we don't even have to play it all day. so just ignore kids.
To be perfectly honest I don't really care either. Plenty of other stuff to do. I still think they're being jerks.

[enemyofportal]

LOL this guy thinks college gives u a lot of free time.

well, they still have more time than hard worker like me. don't get me wrong. I graduated from college, and graduate school. I know that study is harder. why didn't I know? you stupid. I mean that you guys have more time to be relax than people who work for company. you have no idea how busy I am. company is your life saver. if you lose a job or get fired, you have really hard time to find another job in this economy. but for college kids, you just nothing but study. isn't that harder than you feel uncomfortable like working for company. well, you don't have tough experience. no matter how I explain, you don't get it.

[gentlefury]

well, they still have more time than hard worker like me. don't get me wrong. I graduated from college, and graduate school. I know that study is harder. why didn't I know? you stupid. I mean that you guys have more time to be relax than people who work for company. you have no idea how busy I am. company is your life saver. if you lose a job or get fired, you have really hard time to find another job in this economy. but for college kids, you just nothing but study. isn't that harder than you feel uncomfortable like working for company. well, you don't have tough experience. no matter how I explain, you don't get it.

I only work about 8 months a year :) Now is my downtime! Perfect timing! Hopefully I get done with TW1 and get to play TW2 before I go back to work!

[Coldin]

well, they still have more time than hard worker like me. don't get me wrong. I graduated from college, and graduate school. I know that study is harder. why didn't I know? you stupid. I mean that you guys have more time to be relax than people who work for company. you have no idea how busy I am. company is your life saver. if you lose a job or get fired, you have really hard time to find another job in this economy. but for college kids, you just nothing but study. isn't that harder than you feel uncomfortable like working for company. well, you don't have tough experience. no matter how I explain, you don't get it.

Too bad graduate school never taught you the importance of good capitalization or sentence structure. ;)

On topic, I hope the servers don't get that overloaded.