I played this when it was called Fallout...

[Loosifur]

...and then again when it was called Borderlands.

I am an unapologetic Bethesda Hammer Legion Member, but how is this not Fallout 4? Seriously, stop me if you've heard this one. Protagonist emerges from an underground vault to find that the world has been ravaged by a major disaster. In said post-Apocalyptic world, a combination of retro kitsch and junkyard inspired by the Mad Max movies, the protagonist combats mutants, bandits, and a high-tech fascist pseudo-government using makeshift weapons and scaveneged armor.

Yeah, I'm probably gonna buy it when it drops in price, but am I wrong in thinking that the main difference between Rage and either Borderlands or Fallout is the engine?

[bluz74]

They are different types of games though. Fallout and BL both have heavy role playing aspects to them but Rage is a FPS with very light RPG. I for one dislike RPG so RAGE is right up my alley. But yeah, aesthetically, you could be right.

Besides Portal 2, it's probably the only game I'm willing to pay full price for in the next year. The more I see the more I like.

[Omphofo-Bravo]

There is definitely zero originality to the whole story/setting but then again, post-apocalyptic wastelands have never looked better.

[enemyofportal]

don't complain. how about COD, huh? all COD games are exactly the same. it doesn't matter when game was out. I don't even play Crysis games. at least borderlands, fallout, whatever similar games are not boring as much as COD. Rage looks tons better than dull graphic ♥♥♥♥ fallout, and catoonish borderlands in my opinion. plus, Rage is not RPG but pure FPS & action game. by the way, people are very excited about Brink. but I don't see any point of this excitement. that game copied 80% of team fortress 2 elements, made look-better game. this is all.

[Cocacola123]

1 its id so the game will have a superb SP
2 BL's and Fallout are RPG's
3 Bethesda is only the publisher
4 its id so the game will have an amazing SP

[Omphofo-Bravo]

don't complain. how about COD, huh? all COD games are exactly the same. it doesn't matter when game was out. I don't even play Crysis games. at least borderlands, fallout, whatever similar games are not boring as much as COD. Rage looks tons better than dull graphic ♥♥♥♥ fallout, and catoonish borderlands in my opinion. plus, Rage is not RPG but pure FPS & action game. by the way, people are very excited about Brink. but I don't see any point of this excitement. that game copied 80% of team fortress 2 elements, made look-better game. this is all.

Cod is a result of people that don‘t have standards and are fine with whatever garbage is being fed to them. Being critical or, complaining actually helps games move forward. People who tell you to just shut up and enjoy a game despite it‘s obvious signs of poor quality should really stop to think about what they want and compare it to what they are getting.

[Loosifur]

Yeah, I mean, I have it on my wishlist. I'm just saying that if I was in Gearbox I'd be a little pissed right now. Or I'd be collecting a paycheck as a consultant for id software, apparently.

The graphics do look amazing, though. I'd love for them to release a demo. And if it's primarily an SP game, I'm sold.

Meanwhile, CoD is the FPS version of Madden. Discuss.

[Cocacola123]

Yeah, I mean, I have it on my wishlist. I'm just saying that if I was in Gearbox I'd be a little jarateed right now. Or I'd be collecting a paycheck as a consultant for id software, apparently.

The graphics do look amazing, though. I'd love for them to release a demo. And if it's primarily an SP game, I'm sold.

Meanwhile, CoD is the FPS version of Madden. Discuss.
This game has started in development much earlier than when Borderlands was even a thought.

[broadwey]

Dude this was made by ID (Even if Bethseda keep trying to lcaim everything) Basically imagine doom3 with a different plot and location and better graphics

[Fox_McCloud]

Post apocalyptic =/= fallout clone

stop making mountains out of molehills

[Phantombadger]

Hey its a First person shooter. ITS A WOLFENSTEIN 3D CLONE. oh wait. lets go back as sec. wolf spawned doom. doom spawned quake. quake 3 engine was used in a plethora of FPS games, and still is. COD is on a modded IdTech3 and has just been building since. the latest is a heavily modified idtech3 just like source. so if youve played doom then youve played CODMW2. Your BL to RAGE comparison is the same.

you know what this game really looks like??? RAGE. in the next 5 years it will be, this game looks like rage, yadda yadda.

[Loosifur]

Wow, I've never seen better examples of the concept of deliberate obtuseness.

While it is true that a post-apocalyptic setting != a Fallout clone, when everything from the color palette, to the background plot is almost exactly the same as one or another game, then it's fair to say that there's more than a little similarity between the two. It's not saying that any game with shooting is a clone of any other game with guns; it's saying that two FPS set in the modern-day Middle East featuring American Marines probably have more in common than not, as a for instance.

Also, a game being "in development" does not mean that it is actually being developed. Duke 3D was "in development" for some time. It also doesn't mean that it's being developed at the same speed. You can start work on a game before a larger studio and still finish after them, just because that studio might have more people on the project.

Phantombadger. It's tough to argue against what you're saying because the logic is so faulty, but I'll give it a shot. Your analogy is basically saying that you can either believe that any game that shares one feature in common, even broadly, with another game, is a clone of that game, or else all games are entirely unrelated and dissimilar so long as they have at least one feature which is even slightly unlike another. Then you're saying that the latter option is correct. That's sort of like saying a 2011 Ford Fusion and a 2011 Ford Fusion on aftermarket rims are two entirely different and totally unrelated cars. Also, what are you talking about when you refer to Source? Are you trying to say that the Source engine is a modified version of this id engine??

I didn't start this out as a trollfest, and I'd appreciate it if you didn't turn it into one, thanks.

[havok13888]

It's as simple as this. Rage is an FPS and BL/FO are FPS/RPG with heavy emphasis on RPG. As far as art style is concerned, you really think there will be pink and purple everywhere after a meteor has hit the planet? The art aesthetics will be some what similar.

Peoples' complains about the constant brown and grey is pretty old and annoying now. You want colors go play Kirby's epic yarn, leave the rest of the games for us. You don't like the art style, this game is clearly not for you, so move on. If the trailers till date haven't convinced you about this game, nothing will and the way you started this thread it already seems like you have a grudge against this game just because it's post apocalyptic.

How is this different from FO?
It was an RPG game made in the First person perspective.
FO did not have vehicles
FO did not have a multiplayer
FO did not have COOP
FO did not support both health pack and auto regen system
In FO any decision could be made and it would affect the final outcome (open story system) where as Rage is a bit more directed and linear in terms of story.
FO had ♥♥♥♥ AI

How is this different from BL?
BL happened on another planet, not earth, the survivors did not pop out of a vault.
It was an RPG/FPS, with equal emphasis on both, but personally i felt the gun play in BL sucked.
Vehicles were only a means of transportation. They sucked for everything else unless you leveled the right weapons up
BL did not have a multiplayer
BL did not support both health pack and auto regen system
BL had a ♥♥♥♥ story which did not affect the overall story
BL had ♥♥♥♥ AI
Skill doesn't matter, the level of your weapons do.
Weapons cannot be engineered, just bought.
BL has a cell shaded art style.

I can see enough differences here, if you can't either you haven't played either games and you are just trolling here or you are too stuck up to understand what is happening.

[grimssprint]

After all the wind gone.(look up)
100% buy me.
kick wife out or lock all doors.

[Cyph3r]

Also, what are you talking about when you refer to Source? Are you trying to say that the Source engine is a modified version of this id engine??

Woot at bumping an old thread for no reason at all. But gldsrc was a heavily modified quake engine. :P And Carmack stated on his blog "There are still bits of early Quake code in Half Life 2" :P So not the exactly the Rage engine.
-- http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/johnc/recent%20updates/archive?news_id=290 (yay google for helping me find the link ^_^)

Not starting something... just being funny, or trying to.

[atmUK]

...and then again when it was called Borderlands.

I am an unapologetic Bethesda Hammer Legion Member, but how is this not Fallout 4? Seriously, stop me if you've heard this one. Protagonist emerges from an underground vault to find that the world has been ravaged by a major disaster. In said post-Apocalyptic world, a combination of retro kitsch and junkyard inspired by the Mad Max movies, the protagonist combats mutants, bandits, and a high-tech fascist pseudo-government using makeshift weapons and scaveneged armor.

Yeah, I'm probably gonna buy it when it drops in price, but am I wrong in thinking that the main difference between Rage and either Borderlands or Fallout is the engine?

It will not be as buggy as Fallout. I can bet you that.

Story wise you may have a case but all post apocalyptic stories have similar themes of macGuver-ness, mutants, bandits, fascist government.
Plus it's ID, they're not master storytellers but I know it will be a hell of a game. You could just as easily have said I played Doom 3 back when it was called Doom :D .
I will admit to having the same reaction as you did when I first heard about Rage but then I slapped myself for only looking at the surface details in comparing Id's games to any other.

[Cyzthur]

One thing to keep in mind is that RAGE has been in development for around 7 years so it's not a copy of Fallout 3 (also begun in 2004) or Borderlands.

[tatsu91]

one word makes this not a clone ID

[tatsu91]

and tbh even borderlands and fallout are very different borderlands was more like a FPS diablo where fallout 3 was a full fledged WRPG

[Quint]

I really can't seem to understand the fun in Borderlands.As a single player game,its extremely boring.COOP ok,and no story at all.Lootastic game.

RAGE,on the other hand,feels like it has a good story and a solid SP.Definitely the type I am looking for.Not too much of an RPG,just enough.

[BinarySage]

RAGE is a game by IDsoftware not Bethesda ( thoug its being published under Bethesda's label ). Bethesda might have bought out IDsoftware, but they could never make an FPS as good as the creators of the FPS genre.

Also RAGE is a better suited name for an ID game than Fallout.

Binary Sage.

[jim2point0]

This game has been in development for 6 years. Can't really say it's a rip-off of games that have come out during Rage's development... those games were just made faster\released sooner.

Won't stop me from playing this game. It looks really good. Also, I love games that can take advantage of my beefy hardware. Borderlands and Fallout did not do that (kinda ugly).