DNF is appalling!!!

[Alienware Gamer]

US based PC gamers are lucky for once you can just cancel your pre-orders so you do not need to waste money on this like I just did. Sorry but its a poor game Duke or not. Without the Duke name it would be a sub £5 product if that. I was all ready to love it now I could not care less about it :(

Here is why I think this (and yes I am old enough to have bought & loved the original Duke + Atomic editions in 1996).

1: Gfx are really poor/bland. Its all UT2.5 based & looks just plain/poor/bland. Generic looking environments. Average designs nothing special you have not seen a thousand times before.

2: Gameplay is just simple puzzles like pick this up place it here or rip this off the wall. Collision detection is poor in places. Sure there is plenty to do but its all pretty pointless. Eat this eat that drink this drink that for powerups visit the toilet take a leak etc etc.

3: Even with Crysis1 quality gfx this would seem dated its just more of the same as the 1996 Duke in a slightly better looking game engine.

Its shocking to think how much time/money was wasted on this as even in 2001 this would have seemed passable but nothing much more. 3D Realms deserved to go bust if this is what they were working on!!!

If you can look past a very dated looking game which should be 50% cheaper minimum & enjoy juvenille adult humour in your generic FPS with dated gameplay & a confusing mission structure then this is your game but for me I expected a little more & will struggle to even play it to see the end as its so boring already after the 1st hour I am like how long is this thing :( I think they should have let this die naturally polishing it up is just asking for financial problems once the pre-order hype goes away all that is left is a dated game which would struggle 6 years ago to make any impact now its a questionable decision to release it (other than 2K wanted to get some money back right before writing this off!!!)

2K/Gearbox shame on you for setting the price as a full game when you full well know its not even close to the same quality but that's ok gamers have long memories when it comes to stunts like this & all the advertising revenue for positive reviews in the world cannot keep the truth back forever.........

[incy247]

would you like some cheese with your whine?

[lordon]

Thanks, I canceled my pre-order

[ozgeek]

This is the problem with today's gamers. All they want to play games for is graphics. Gameplay always, ALWAYS comes first. Graphics last. Look at Terraria. Crappy 2D, blocky graphics, yet it's very popular.

I don't give a hoot about graphics. I didn't buy a game to look at graphics, I bought the game to PLAY it.

[Scarecroww]

Your #1 I don't care about, graphics doesn't matter much to me. Your #2 and #3 just makes me more psyched for this, awesome!

The fact that people are whining about it being "more of DN3D" or having old-school/dated gameplay and a lot of pointless interactions with the environment are really good signs to me!

[Mathieux]

This is the problem with today's gamers. All they want to play games for is graphics. Gameplay always, ALWAYS comes first. Graphics last. Look at Terraria. Crappy 2D, blocky graphics, yet it's very popular.

I don't give a hoot about graphics. I didn't buy a game to look at graphics, I bought the game to PLAY it.

i Fully agree with you the Gamers shouldnt play a game for it graphics. The reason i payed for the game was cause its a childhood game gameplay is most likely going to be the same as the old Duke nukem 3D and if you look at Duke nukem forever the graphics are rather crappy but the game was great.

Pardon my english i know its not perfect

[qweezy]

This game rocks.....

Now STFU

[Nerfed]

This is the problem with today's gamers. All they want to play games for is graphics. Gameplay always, ALWAYS comes first. Graphics last. Look at Terraria. Crappy 2D, blocky graphics, yet it's very popular.

I don't give a hoot about graphics. I didn't buy a game to look at graphics, I bought the game to PLAY it.

Hey blind guy

Yeah, you. You, Ozgeek, yeah.

If you'd use that braille to actually read past the first line, you'd notice he's actually talking about gameplay.

[ozgeek]

I read his whole post and I do get the gameplay is "classic". They want to stick with what DukeNuken is known for - heavy action shooter. I've played DN1 (yeah the side scrolling games when I was around 12. And DN3D about 5 years ago so I know what DN is all about.

If you don't like heavy shooting then this is not for you and you pre-ordered the game just for the heck of it. This is a shooting game after all.

[rtil]

i'd expect this level of stupidity from someone with the username "Alienware Gamer"

[MaydaX]

1: Gfx are really poor/bland. Its all UT2.5 based & looks just plain/poor/bland. Generic looking environments. Average designs nothing special you have not seen a thousand times before.

The game is 12 years in development. If they kept trying to convert to the latest graphics engines the game would never come out. Gameplay is what games are about, not the eye candy.

It's much better looking than the last game in the series.
http://www.3drealms.com/duke3d/shots/shot1.jpg

[Smilomaniac]

I'm surprised it has as many "puzzles" as it does. Frankly it's annoying.

I love my puzzles, I really do, Myth, adventure games and portal tickle my fancy.

But puzzles in a railroad shooter...? It's pretty much out of place.
Got stuck on something hopelessly obvious, which just frustrated me and made me feel stupid for not seeing it.

Anyway, it's just out of place. DNF is, for what it is, so far a decent game. Honestly, I've supported it more out of loyalty and nostalgia than anything else and it's what I expected.

[fr33kSh0w2012]

This is the problem with today's gamers. All they want to play games for is graphics. Gameplay always, ALWAYS comes first. Graphics last. Look at Terraria. Crappy 2D, blocky graphics, yet it's very popular.

I don't give a hoot about graphics. I didn't buy a game to look at graphics, I bought the game to PLAY it.

Yep can't agree more Whine, Whine, Whine.:mad:

You whiny Lot should be Face palmed! you call yourself gamers Same Lot that ruined Online Multi Player for me.(HL2 Multiplayer/dark messiah Multiplayer):mad:

I got it for my LATE birthday Present I'm happy for it I especially liked the Driving parts they Break up the run 'n gun parts and Mary and Kate holsom HEHEHEHE If you think DNF is appalling you should go and play COMMANDER KEEN Invasion of the Vorticons Episode 1: marooned on mars I still play it, Why I hear you ask? Because it is UN-Adulterated they didn't have 'challenges' or 'Achievements' back then it was just an Achievement to get through the game they were so tough go back and play DOOM 1 there is Snowberry/Jdoom these days and all the modpacks that go with that I pick snowberry because you can play heretic and Hexen and their expansion packs! RE-LEARN what it is to be a gamer!:mad:

http://www.commander-keen.com/screenshots/keen1/1.gif

[KiLLLLeR150]

Shut the **** up about the graphics. Not everything needs to look like Crysis 2. You want great graphics? Play real life.
For everyone else, there are games with a wide array of graphics and great gameplay.

[izihbo]

This game is awwwwzum. Sure the graphics look a little dated, but it's a helluva lotta fun to play.

I just have one small complaint... When I rightclick to zoom, the graphics go blurry and low res for some reason. Kinda annoying, but not a dealbreaker.

Quit your "omg refund" whining guys, play the game! It's fun. FUN! WEE!

Now if you'll excuse me, I've just been shrunk to the size of an action figure and I'm driving around in my RC car. WEEEE!

[Wire]

I've been playing it for an hour or so - looks all good to me.

Good laugh as well. :D

[dexter_1978]

console port its not a big surprise the game sucks big time....

people still buy it anyway


but then again thats not a surprise either.

[izihbo]

By the way - disable vertical sync. Or else your mouse is gonna lag or something. I tried to enable vsync and everything got all weird.

[nopistons420]

console port its not a big surprise the game sucks big time....

people still buy it anyway


but then again thats not a surprise either.

sum trolls on forums not a big surprise

but then again its spuf not a surprise either

[fr33kSh0w2012]

By the way - disable vertical sync. Or else your mouse is gonna lag or something. I tried to enable vsync and everything got all weird.

Vertical Sync is a NO-NO for games with the unreal 3 engine.:eek:

[izihbo]

Vertical Sync is a NO-NO for games with the unreal 3 engine.:eek:

Yeah I just hope people don't enable it - cause having it enabled .... THAT is a gamebreaker. It'll ruin the fun, cause it's so unplayable with vsync enabled.

[Alienware Gamer]

Vertical Sync is a NO-NO for games with the unreal 3 engine.:eek: This is not that advanced it uses a hybrid Unreal engine 2.5!

[Neithan]

3: Even with Crysis1 quality gfx this would seem dated its just more of the same as the 1996 Duke in a slightly better looking game engine.

So it is a better looking D3d? Perfect, that is exactly what most of us were waiting for. :cool:

I'm surprised it has as many "puzzles" as it does. [...] Got stuck on something hopelessly obvious, which just frustrated me and made me feel stupid for not seeing it.

I remember being stuck on some of the puzzles in D3d back then, an feeling quite stupid when I finally solved them (sometimes it was just pure "luck"), so again, sounds like it delivers the perfect Duke feel :p

And whoever feels the need to complain about stupid oneliners and immature jokes, please just STFU since you have no plan at all what the Duke is about.

Well, enough people already pointed out, but I just say it again: Gameplay > Graphics !

You want great graphics? Play real life.


Sounds good, is it available on Steam? :D

[ozku]

More of DN3D is what it's supposed to be, hell imo it's not even enough like DN3D.

I think graphics are okay, never really cared of them (the depth of field is horrible though...). I do agree that they are quite 'meh' after you leave the casino.

Imo they should have not included the regenerating health and 2 weapons limit, I really would love to use all the weapons they give me, but so far I pretty much HAVE to stick with shotgun/ripper and RPG combo (I did use railgun few times though).

However, other than that, DNF has still been fun as hell for me. Levels have good amount of variety, some of the duke's lines and references are actually quite clever (or cheap, you decide). I like the idea of boosting your max ego by interacting with world, it goes quite well with Duke's personality.

It is dissappointing in gameplay wise though, which is really a shame because without health regen and 2 weapons limit it could been so much better. I don't know how well the game supports modding, but if it does I'm sure fans will come around and create a "Classic" mod which removes the stupid weapons limit.

And that's my honest opinion. So far I'm in the level "Hive" with 2 hours of gameplay. I was a bit too pessimist towards the game before the launch, it certainly isn't THAT bad as I thought it would be but it could been way better.

If someone wants to cancel their pre-order, go right ahead, I wont stop you. But just saying, if you waited DNF for over 12 years then what kind of f***ing fan were you to begin with if you refuse to even give it a try now?

[Lozzen]

Buying it when it goes to sale sometimes.. Can't be bothered with the current price :/

[Alienware Gamer]

Some more thoughs on this.

It only uses lots of checkpoints no way to manually save.

Hit X to open every freakin door then tap A repeatedly is very very boring already....

Plays best with a 360 gamepad. Mouse + KB feels wrong somehow....

Still installs that AMD dual optimiser junk even if you have Intel/Nvidia & no AMD/ATI hardware whatsover!!

Game is so console friendly surprised they bothered with the PC at all its all little corridors/small spaces which are console memory friendly nothing is memorable they are throwing everything they think of at you but it all feels generic like where did you see it before.

Most of the game has a blurry gfx filter to try & hide the lack of detail as most textures are very plain indeed & look unfinished like they are just placeholders until they can make better ones.....

Still shell shocked they even bothered releasing this in this state the reviews will be brutal if I was being kind I would give this 5/10 if you want to nit pick its 2011 so a PC game should at least offer something more than 6 year old console hardware then 4/10 would be fairer considering they have set it as a full price product when its not a 2011 PC full price product at all far from it ignoring the gfx the gameplay is just nothing special & the Duke humour is starting to even get tired already its a one trick pony which is quickly getting very old indeed!

[ragequitking]

my preorder is downloading as I type this.. im so excited to hurry up and rage quit it.

[Frugal]

Your name is telling, Alienware Gamer.

[Urh]

2K/Gearbox shame on you for setting the price as a full game when you full well know its not even close to the same quality but that's ok gamers have long memories when it comes to stunts like this & all the advertising revenue for positive reviews in the world cannot keep the truth back forever.........

Unfortunately, there are enough dumb/easily amused gamers out there that will result in this game being somewhat of a commercial success:(:mad::(:mad:

I now regard Duke Nukem the same way I regard The Transformers - as a franchise with a special place in my heart which has been mercilessly FUBAR'd. I'm not so much angry as I am sad.

[ragequitking]

Your name is telling, Alienware Gamer.

alienware cant handle the amount of rage quit i bring to the yard.

[Laokin]

Vertical Sync is a NO-NO for games with the unreal 3 engine.:eek:

VSync is a No-No in all shooting games.

Even source engine has mouse input lag with V-Sync on. Some games have it more noticeable than others.... but they virtually all have it.

V-Sync is a useless feature anyway as long as you have a decent display.

(Some displays tear, while others do not.)

It's there for people who have lackluster displays, V-Sync is cool if you get above the framecap and use a controller. Triple Buffering is supposed to reduce the input lag, but often times... it's just not enough.

[Laokin]

Unfortunately, there are enough dumb/easily amused gamers out there that will result in this game being somewhat of a commercial success:(:mad::(:mad:

I now regard Duke Nukem the same way I regard The Transformers - as a franchise with a special place in my heart which has been mercilessly FUBAR'd. I'm not so much angry as I am sad.

Remember Gearbox didn't develop this, they just finished it... there is a HUUUUGE difference between those two. When Gearbox makes another Duke Game, it will be on Current Tech and will be their vision of what Duke should be.

So, to damn a franchise over a game that was developed in hell... is a bit much no?

Not only that, but -- I personally find the game awesome, so milage may vary.

Keep that in mind.

I am also appauled at the people who need other people to agree with them.

If I didn't like duke, I'm not gonna come to the forums and attempt to convince people to cancel their preorders... That's just absurd. The people that actually do.. are even more Absurd. Taking a total strangers word at value, when they don't even know that persons personal taste/threshold of what is acceptible to them.

Some people are gonna swear Diablo 3 sucks, but we pretty much already know that it won't.

Ya see my point?

Y'all are just silly excuses for people... like Robots that need to fit in with the other Robots. What ever happened to "personal taste" ??????

[DevilGeneral]

the graphics may be updated but i dont care the gameplay is awesome and hail to the king baby!.

[Chapa9dj]

Troll thread.

I couldn't care less about the graphics. Duke is back and that's all that matters to me. :D

[JoeB]

I remember being stuck on some of the puzzles in D3d back then, an feeling quite stupid when I finally solved them (sometimes it was just pure "luck"), so again, sounds like it delivers the perfect Duke feel :p

In most cases, the only "puzzle" in Duke Nukem 3D was "Where the hell do I go next?".

[Neithan]

In most cases, the only "puzzle" in Duke Nukem 3D was "Where the hell do I go next?".

Yeah I know, but as this can be really "puzzling", I called it a puzzle xD

Actually I count "finding secrets" as some kind of puzzle, too, and for the "where to go next?" thing, you often needed a keycard that you had to find first ;)

[Shagg]

US based PC gamers are lucky for once you can just cancel your pre-orders so you do not need to waste money on this like I just did. Sorry but its a poor game Duke or not. Without the Duke name it would be a sub £5 product if that. I was all ready to love it now I could not care less about it :( blablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablabl ablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablablab la

-10000 rep points

[inconstantflux]

So is this game really like Duke3d? Saying it's an old school shooter != duke3d. Duke3d had excellent enemies, bosses, level design and levels were non-linear (alternate paths, shortcuts, destructible environments to find secrets).

If the levels are simple pure linear levels with no alternate paths and secrets then it's not Duke at all.

[Smilomaniac]

In most cases, the only "puzzle" in Duke Nukem 3D was "Where the hell do I go next?".


Hmm actually, now that I think about it, D3D did have some puzzles.. I guess I just remember the shooting most.


The two weapon limit still sucks though. I see how some of the first twenty minutes are dependant on it, but I found myself starved for ammo a few times later and then right as I run out, jetpackers zoom in, with no ammo crates or weapons nearby.

The boss fights aren't hard, for what they are, but the limit makes them frustrating. As in, not that fun.

Also, they have me thinking of Half-Life, with the biological jump pads, lightplants and what not. It's clear to see that 3D realms have been heavily inspired, when you go through the hive.
And of course some of Prey carries over as well. Not that it's a bad thing.

[Smilomaniac]

So is this game really like Duke3d? Saying it's an old school shooter != duke3d. Duke3d had excellent enemies, bosses, level design and levels were non-linear (alternate paths, shortcuts, destructible environments to find secrets).

If the levels are simple pure linear levels with no alternate paths and secrets then it's not Duke at all.

The game is extremely linear. In fact, this may be the most linear shooter I've ever played. I'd say the scripted events range between amusing and annoying. Oddly, I find myself in some situations where I think to myself "How did they not playtest this!?" but that's mostly due to the weapon limit and health regain.

[Alienware Gamer]

So is this game really like Duke3d? Saying it's an old school shooter != duke3d. Duke3d had excellent enemies, bosses, level design and levels were non-linear (alternate paths, shortcuts, destructible environments to find secrets).

If the levels are simple pure linear levels with no alternate paths and secrets then it's not Duke at all. Its not as enjoyable as you played that 15 years ago now you get a similar game but more on rails as they are forcing you to go one way only through each level. DNF is designed to work within console limitations its a dated game design which is meant for consoles but happens to be released on PC.

I thought Duke Nukem Manhattan Project was a much more enjoyable game than DNF but thats just me I have only been a PC gamer since 1992!

If you like paying full price for an inferior Duke 3D 1996 HD clone in 2011 then this is the ideal game for you..........

[Dezolate]

I'd say it is worse than Duke 3D by far, not even close to a clone.

[Lucidius]

The Christian Bale reference 5mins into the game expresses how I feel when I was watching

Utter ♥♥♥♥. Glad I was watching my friend play it

[LedBetter]

Lol @ all the delusional Duke Hammer Legion Members.

This game sucks pure and simple. Defend this all you want. It's not just the graphics that suck. The gameplay is HORRIBlE. It doesn't even know what it wants to be. Old school Duke or a newer style FPS?

It's bad. Everything. Controls suck, shooting sucks, puzzles suck, humor isn't even funny, and visuals suck. This game is bland as hell. Game will be bombarded with 4's and 5's and the Duke Hammer Legion Members here will defend it like it's the second coming of christ.

Sorry but Duke is gone. Hell his character is stupid as hell now too. Those one dimensional, womanizing, sexist, macho male stereotypes died in the 90's. If you seriously think throwing poop around taking a leak is hilarious you must be 12.

[deevus]

Sigh. Railroad shooter. 2 weapons. Console port. Linear.

If I wanted mini-games I'd go play Mario Party. I don't like mini-games.

[mouthofxenu]

Sorry but Duke is gone. Hell his character is stupid as hell now too. Those one dimensional, womanizing, sexist, macho male stereotypes died in the 90's. If you seriously think throwing poop around taking a leak is hilarious you must be 12.

And yet you bought the game... It's not like they weren't up front about the immaturity.

As someone who's never played a Duke Nukem game, I'm looking for something with interesting weapons, enemies, and personality. As long as this game is constantly showering me in Duke's super macho-ness and is satisfying to play, I'll be fine. And mini-games in a shooter sound like something interesting to me at least. Again, the presence of mini-games shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone that paid attention to the development trailers.

The one thing that gives me pause is the issue of being unable to carry a massive arsenal. I may not have played Duke Nukem, but Perfect Dark, Half Life, and Metal Gear all utilized massive arsenals and were fun because of it. Here's to hoping they add extra content later that lets you hang on to all the weapons you want. My suggestion: cheat codes in the main menu.

What's more retro than that?

[charleswrivers]

Dude... I'm playing Duke 3D high resolution pack tonight.

If this game has even just quake 3 engine era graphics (ST Elite Force, Alice, etc) and just picks up where duke left off... I'll still be happy.

Realistic Expectations + A Duke Nukem Game... Finally!!!! = Happy.

Good graphics do not make a good game. Farcry 2 was awful and looked BEAUTIFUL...

I just want to veg out and play a stupid... stupid game that doesn't take itself too seriously. Too many games today try to be serious but are miserible grinds to play. Bring on the fun!

[Nomadski]

If anyone cancels a preorder because of the OP, then your an idiot.

My review: This game rocks. More imagination in this game than any FPS ive played in years.

Graphics are fine. Not industry bleeding edge, but fine. they do the job they are meant to do.

Some quite brilliantly funny moments, great cultural references throughout and some great level design - it may be linear but uses great design to move you along.

Been playing for four hours, felt a constant sense of progression and new ideas the whole way.

So yeah, if you want graphics, go play Crysis again, this room is for gamers.

[charleswrivers]

...y'know, the special effects in Army of Darkness suck but I still like it. If they make another Evil Dead movie w/the same special effects, I'd still watch it and enjoy it.

So... yeah. Maybe this won't appeal to all FPS fans... but it will to many. And this is the thing we Duke fans have been waiting for. Realistically, kids in the 12-18 year age group will see Duke for the first time. They didn't play Duke 1, 2 Duke 3D or Manhattan project. I'd be interested in how they like it. My mentality has (slightly) matured... but I think I'm enough of a childish, gross slob at heart to love it.

[ivowns]

u want a hug?

[lordon]

I canceled my preorder because of this thread.

[JoxerNL]

Dear OP,

You are more then welcome to go back to your "realistic" CoD type of game, it sure sounds like you are indeed fitting-in with the crowd of the mindless drones who play that game.

I hope you have fun in your own ventures with the 'masses' :)

[Sazzcarr]

LoL Alienware??? Worst gaming PC's ever...

[BC2 Cypher]

This is the problem with today's gamers. All they want to play games for is graphics. Gameplay always, ALWAYS comes first. Graphics last. Look at Terraria. Crappy 2D, blocky graphics, yet it's very popular.

I don't give a hoot about graphics. I didn't buy a game to look at graphics, I bought the game to PLAY it.

LOL so you didn't read the part where he said that even if the game had Crysis's graphics it would still be the same?

[BC2 Cypher]

LoL Alienware??? Worst gaming PC's ever...

No they're just overpriced.

[Haydenfoot]

Dear OP,

You are more then welcome to go back to your "realistic" CoD type of game, it sure sounds like you are indeed fitting-in with the crowd of the mindless drones who play that game.

I hope you have fun in your own ventures with the 'masses' :)

What the hell is this? That's what DNFs problem is, it copies ideas from all the popular games out there, including COD, but without using any of it decently. For example the two weapon limit was not put in there to help the game, but because Halo has a two weapon limit and mapping a lot of weapon slots is hard on an xbox controller. COD has linear on-rail gameplay, but it doesn't matter that this game has it because of Duke Nukem?

Gearbox is hoping to recover some of that lost funding, they are not out to make a quality and memorable duke game.

[BC2 Cypher]

Lol @ all the delusional Duke Hammer Legion Members.

This game sucks pure and simple. Defend this all you want. It's not just the graphics that suck. The gameplay is HORRIBlE. It doesn't even know what it wants to be. Old school Duke or a newer style FPS?

It's bad. Everything. Controls suck, shooting sucks, puzzles suck, humor isn't even funny, and visuals suck. This game is bland as hell. Game will be bombarded with 4's and 5's and the Duke Hammer Legion Members here will defend it like it's the second coming of christ.

Sorry but Duke is gone. Hell his character is stupid as hell now too. Those one dimensional, womanizing, sexist, macho male stereotypes died in the 90's. If you seriously think throwing poop around taking a leak is hilarious you must be 12.

Agreed.

If this game was called Mr. Testosterone man's Alien Killing Adventure and didn't have the Duke Nukem title nobody would give a ♥♥♥♥ about this game.

Well maybe some would like it for some reason but not as many would try to defend it.

Sorry but Duke is gone. Hell his character is stupid as hell now too. Those one dimensional, womanizing, sexist, macho male stereotypes died in the 90's. If you seriously think throwing poop around taking a leak is hilarious you must be 12.

And I really couldn't agree with this statement more.

[grimm_reapr]

I dunno what everyone's complaining about...honestly. This game is the least serious, most entertaining game I've played in ages....The key phrase in that last statement, Being "LEAST SERIOUS"!!

It astounds me, In this day and age, How whiny little children believe certain games SHOULD BE LIKE other games. Think about this for a moment...

When you buy, Say, a sedan...Do you get in it, Do up your seatbelt, Start the engine and then say "Oh, This isn't what I thought it was...I wanted a 4-wheel drive, But, Since this isn't one, I'll take it off-road anyway and see what happens!" Then, When the car gets completely stuck, You call up the company, Get on the internet and find your car makers forums and whine and b**tch incessantly about how your sedan isn't a 4x4 and when you took it off-road it got stuck and how cr*p the car, And, By extension, The company is, As a result!

This game was never MEANT to be anything serious...In fact, The entire premise of 'Duke Nukem' is that it's NOT serious...It's the complete polar opposite of serious.

If you're looking for a serious shooter, Go back to Bad Company 2 or games thereof, But don't come in here and whine, Bi*ch and moan about how this game isn't what YOU wanted.

If you like serious games, And didn't bother to do your research, And fell for the hype, It's your own damn fault. It's not the game's fault you aren't a fan: You're just too friggin picky. Simple as that.

Those one dimensional, womanizing, sexist, macho male stereotypes died in the 90's. If you seriously think throwing poop around taking a leak is hilarious you must be 12.

This couldn't illustrate my point more aptly...Why so serious? Lighten up!

*end rant*

HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!

[Zenkei]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Yngipvz6M

Thought I would throw this video in here. It is the first 45 minutes or so of Duke Nukem Forever. Keep in mind that the video isn't a review, it is a first impressions.

[Cut2TheChase]

gameplay shmameplay... i didnt spend $350 on a graphics card to play something that could run on my phone.

I feel THAT! Will wait for price drop, later!

[grimm_reapr]

This comment has been removed by the poster, for potential flamebaiting.

[ICantShoot]

Don't fall into lowballs that some people throw in. They just try to make you mad for having the game that they think is bad. Personally i have no opinion yet but after 10 hours, i will.

[JoxerNL]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Yngipvz6M

Thought I would throw this video in here. It is the first 45 minutes or so of Duke Nukem Forever. Keep in mind that the video isn't a review, it is a first impressions.

TB is an entertainer, not a reviewer or one to give a good solid "first impression".
He gives in too happily into the "rant" so his fans get all happy in their pants, which is fine, i like his videos, but take everything he says with a grain of salt.

[Sazzcarr]

No they're just overpriced.

Like Macs

[Urien]

Like Macs

:D Oh boy, here we go...

[RogueObsidian]

why does it have to be like DN3D though??
are you that reminiscent of the past and that sentimental that you have to have things looking and replicating something that existed nearly 15 years ago?

[Coy0te]

I'm really enjoying it so far, it's a flawed game but it feels so different to anything that has come out in the last 5 or so years.

The graphics I think are the worst aspect of the game, indoor segments are passable and the lighting effects at times are pretty good but the outdoor environments are so atrocious it's actually distracting.

[izihbo]

LoL Alienware??? Worst gaming PC's ever...

Yeah let's go there, shall we? You're REALLY contributing here.... Grow some god damn pubes and gtfo.

[izihbo]

I dunno what everyone's complaining about...honestly. This game is the least serious, most entertaining game I've played in ages....The key phrase in that last statement, Being "LEAST SERIOUS"!!

It astounds me, In this day and age, How whiny little children believe certain games SHOULD BE LIKE other games. Think about this for a moment...

When you buy, Say, a sedan...Do you get in it, Do up your seatbelt, Start the engine and then say "Oh, This isn't what I thought it was...I wanted a 4-wheel drive, But, Since this isn't one, I'll take it off-road anyway and see what happens!" Then, When the car gets completely stuck, You call up the company, Get on the internet and find your car makers forums and whine and b**tch incessantly about how your sedan isn't a 4x4 and when you took it off-road it got stuck and how cr*p the car, And, By extension, The company is, As a result!

This game was never MEANT to be anything serious...In fact, The entire premise of 'Duke Nukem' is that it's NOT serious...It's the complete polar opposite of serious.

If you're looking for a serious shooter, Go back to Bad Company 2 or games thereof, But don't come in here and whine, Bi*ch and moan about how this game isn't what YOU wanted.

If you like serious games, And didn't bother to do your research, And fell for the hype, It's your own damn fault. It's not the game's fault you aren't a fan: You're just too friggin picky. Simple as that.



This couldn't illustrate my point more aptly...Why so serious? Lighten up!

*end rant*

HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!

+1 interwebz

[NasherUK]

Graphics are the least important thing really.It look good enough, if it has amazing graphics people would only be crying that it doesn't run on their PC.

The full game feels a lot like old duke3d with a few small changes and more plot. It's just as silly and over the top as it always was.

[miknic]

This game rulezz, and there is nothing wrong with the grapics. Maybe your running minimum setting ^^

[DonkeySomething]

I cancelled my preorder too!

No.. no I didn't. But if it makes you feel like your b i t c h i n g accomplished anything then I'll say it just because I'm a nice guy. :)

[Urh]

I dunno what everyone's complaining about...honestly. This game is the least serious, most entertaining game I've played in ages....The key phrase in that last statement, Being "LEAST SERIOUS"!!

It astounds me, In this day and age, How whiny little children believe certain games SHOULD BE LIKE other games. Think about this for a moment...

When you buy, Say, a sedan...Do you get in it, Do up your seatbelt, Start the engine and then say "Oh, This isn't what I thought it was...I wanted a 4-wheel drive, But, Since this isn't one, I'll take it off-road anyway and see what happens!" Then, When the car gets completely stuck, You call up the company, Get on the internet and find your car makers forums and whine and b**tch incessantly about how your sedan isn't a 4x4 and when you took it off-road it got stuck and how cr*p the car, And, By extension, The company is, As a result!

This game was never MEANT to be anything serious...In fact, The entire premise of 'Duke Nukem' is that it's NOT serious...It's the complete polar opposite of serious.

If you're looking for a serious shooter, Go back to Bad Company 2 or games thereof, But don't come in here and whine, Bi*ch and moan about how this game isn't what YOU wanted.

If you like serious games, And didn't bother to do your research, And fell for the hype, It's your own damn fault. It's not the game's fault you aren't a fan: You're just too friggin picky. Simple as that.



This couldn't illustrate my point more aptly...Why so serious? Lighten up!

*end rant*

HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!


Wow, nice straw man you constructed there. You essentially insult all the critics and naysaysers (and make sweeping generalisations about all of them) by suggesting that they don't even know what a Duke Nukem game is supposed to be like!

As for your line about "being too picky," well....am I really living in a world where having some standards is seen as a bad thing? Ugh...

[ivowns]

gearbox did a very nice job bringing this CLASSIC to us and all you can do is CRY about graphics, 2 weap slots, mimimi, mimimi? wow.
you have no idea what this game represent for who really like the franchise. lol

[jim67]

my neighbour got the game today , so i check out , and i strongly agree with Alienware Gamer, about a week when i got the demo, i suprised that game not the best... so i cancel my preorder. When the game on sale i will buy, but until.... This game will never be the 2011 best game...

[YellowTree]

Don't listen to OP's whining, the game is good. Go get it.

[marekfreak1]

I'm getting the game from retail (preordered cheaper than Steam). I've already stopped buying games from Activision & Crytek due to their rash of bad games for PCs including terrible support for PC gamers, but especially due to that contagious consolitis.

I just hope that the DNF final product is not as bad as the jarate poor demo. But judging by the numerous first 45 minute playthtoughs on youtube for all platforms, I see that the mouse is still fubared, keyboard controls are wack, melee is terrible, tons of scripted events, low res texture & graphics, dated graphics, terrible AI/scripts, linear yet confusing progression and invisible walls.

And worst of all only 2 weapons slots (WTF!!!!), COD regenerative health, EGO (I don't mind, but the implementation it just seems out of place so far), blurred/glitched vision when drinking beer taking steroids or zooming AND crap Duke vision.

WTF has happened to Duke? Living in a retirement home till now?

The general opinion is it doesn't look like this game is gonna kick butt and that the hype was a farce and mere cover-up for a dated and horrendously dumbed down game.

I'm going to risk it and not cancel my pre-order. I understand that it may not entirely be Gearboxes fault, but if the game blows compared to their bold statements & hype, I will seriously consider buying future games from their studio.

But if this game does suck Donkey d***, then I seriously give up on the PC gaming industry. BF3 & Mass Effect 3 will most likely be the last games I purchase for while (Although I'll probably just stick to BF3/BC2).

...maybe old school should just be exactly that. Left for the past...which can never be outdone.

[YellowTree]

I'm getting the game from retail (preordered cheaper than Steam). I've already stopped buying games from Activision & Crytek due to their rash of bad games for PCs including terrible support for PC gamers, but especially due to that contagious consolitis.

I just hope that the DNF final product is not as bad as the jarate poor demo. But judging by the numerous first 45 minute playthtoughs on youtube for all platforms, I see that the mouse is still fubared, keyboard controls are wack, melee is terrible, tons of scripted events, low res texture & graphics, dated graphics, terrible AI/scripts, linear yet confusing progression and invisible walls.

And worst of all 2 weapons slots, COD regenerative health, blurred/glitched vision when drinking beer taking steroids or zooming AND crap Duke vision.

WTF has happened to Duke? Living in a retirement home till now?

The general opinion is it doesn't look like this game is gonna kick butt and that the hype was farce and cover-up for a dated and dumbed down game.

I'm going to risk it and not cancel my pre-order. I understand that it may not entirely be Gearboxes fault, but if the game blows compared to their bold statements & hype, I will seriously consider buying future games from their studio.

But if this game does suck Donkey d***, then I seriously give up on the PC gaming industry. BF3 & Mass Effect 3 will most likely be the last games I purchase for while (Although I'll probably just stick to BF3/BC2).

Do you really whine about everything? Just cancel your pre order because you probably will find tons of things to dislike. And then we're gonna have to read your whining here again.

[TheTurnipKing]

This is the problem with today's gamers. All they want to play games for is graphics. Gameplay always, ALWAYS comes first. Graphics last. Look at Terraria. Crappy 2D, blocky graphics, yet it's very popular.

I don't give a hoot about graphics. I didn't buy a game to look at graphics, I bought the game to PLAY it.
Its a shame that it plays suspiciously like Halo, then, isn't it?
Duke Nukem is NOT supposed to be the kind of game character who hides in boxes and behind chest high walls while his health recharges.

I half-suspect that Gearbox accidently submitted the master disk for their port of Halo instead of Duke.

[marekfreak1]

Do you really whine about everything? Just cancel your pre order because you probably will find tons of things to dislike. And then we're gonna have to read your whining here again.

Jesus...what is with these fan-boy trolls on the Steam forums nowadays. It' just a game FFS and the Steam forums are here for us to discuss opinions, facts and likes/dislikes for games in general in a civil manner.

Why don't you take drag your immature butt off to a Justin Beiber youth forum or something seeing as you have absolutely nothing to contribute here.

[Urh]

gearbox did a very nice job bringing this CLASSIC to us and all you can do is CRY about graphics, 2 weap slots, mimimi, mimimi? wow.
you have no idea what this game represent for who really like the franchise. lol

I've been holding back on what I truly think about DNF, but I'm just gonna say it. It felt like I was playing Halo with a hastily put together Duke Nukem mod thrown on top. There. I didn't want to say it, but I ****ing said it. DNF plays like ****ing Halo and yes, that's a BAD THING.

[YellowTree]

Its a shame that it plays suspiciously like Halo, then, isn't it?
Duke Nukem is NOT supposed to be the kind of game character who hides in boxes and behind chest high walls while his health recharges.

I half-suspect that Gearbox accidently submitted the master disk for their port of Halo instead of Duke.

Uh yeah there are plenty of moments where a ♥♥♥♥load of aliens keep attacking you and you don't have time to "hide in boxes" and the only thing you can do is to kick their ♥♥♥ as fast as you can. But of course you'd know that IF you played the game. :rolleyes:

[varnado]

I like DNF, the gameplay is Awesome! sure the graphix are not that good for 2011 but atleast it works pretty well on my PC

BTW the only downside is 2 weaps at the same time

[marekfreak1]

Don't listen to OP's whining, the game is good. Go get it.

FANSTASTIC POST. REP +1Qazillion

I guess we'll never garner any insight, useful opinions and wealth of info, on why exactly is this game worth getting.

Really wonderful contribution. Thank you soooo much for helping us make informed choices.

You're a real champ.

[YellowTree]

I played the game, which makes me more reliable than you. You're just whining about a game you haven't even played yet. Talking about a waste of time.

[marekfreak1]

I played the game, which makes me more reliable than you. You're just whining about a game you haven't even played yet. Talking about a waste of time.

I never said I played it Einstein. I brought some verified facts to the table. I briefly summoned the opinion of many of those who have actually played the game and stated my fears and expectations.

Do you even know what a walkthrough/playthrough is in reference to gaming? Ever heard of youtube or should I bid you a fair welcome to the Internet?

What is your contribution? What is so great about the game? What are your favorite parts so far? Why are 2 weapons slots fine? How does Ego work? As the levels progress, how is the gameplay, environments, graphics? Any improvements? Any surprises along the way? What about Duke's old school humor ( can we expect a tour de force)? Do the initial walkthrough/playthroughs reflect what we can expect from the game?

And the winning question is WHY ARE YOU SO CONVINCED THE OP IS WRONG AND THAT DNF IS WORTH GETTING? (here let me put it in bold letters and maybe underline the question in case you're still slightly confused. Take your time. Look it over and give it some thought. There is no rush. Some people are slower than most. It's ok. It's not entirely your fault).

Seriously, please could you be a little more vague.

[s3nr1]

This game sucks donkey ♥♥♥♥, the demo made it clear and I canceled my preorder a while go. Bulletstorm has more value than this.

[YellowTree]

This game sucks donkey ♥♥♥♥, the demo made it clear and I canceled my preorder a while go. Bulletstorm has more value than this.

Thanks for proving my point.

[marekfreak1]

Thanks for proving my point.

The point being...

:confused:

[YellowTree]

I never said I played it Einstein. I brought some verified facts to the table. I briefly summoned the opinion of many of those who have actually played the game and stated my fears and expectations.

Do you even know what a walkthrough/playthrough is in reference to gaming? Ever heard of youtube or should I bid you a fair welcome to the Internet?

What is your contribution? What is so great about the game? What are your favorite parts so far? Why are 2 weapons slots fine? How does Ego work? As the levels progress, how is the gameplay, environments, graphics? Any improvements? Any surprises along the way? What about Duke's old school humor ( can we expect a tour de force)? Do the initial walkthrough/playthroughs reflect what we can expect from the game?

And the winning question is WHY ARE YOU SO CONVINCED THE OP IS WRONG AND THAT DNF IS WORTH GETTING? (here let me put it in bold letters and maybe underline the question in case you're still slightly confused. Take your time. Look it over and give it some though. There is no rush. Some people are slower than most. It's ok. It's not entirely your fault).

Seriously, please could you be a little more vague.

I know you want my attention, I'm just ignoring you for the time being. I'll answer your questions later when I have more time and when I've completed the game. So far I've only played 100 minutes of the game and I have enjoyed every minute of it. Haven't really played the multiplayer yet though, but it looked old school to me, like Unreal Tournament. Which is a good thing, COD has been done to death.

[marekfreak1]

I know you want my attention, I'm just ignoring you for the time being. I'll answer your questions later when I have more time and when I've completed the game. So far I've only played 100 minutes of the game and I have enjoyed every minute of it. Haven't really played the multiplayer yet though, but it looked old school to me, like Unreal Tournament. Which is a good thing, COD has been done to death.

Fair enough. I am sure a lot of ppl would like to hear at least some positive remarks on the game and it would be great if you briefly touch on some of the major issues ppl are generally complaining about.

Mainly the mouse movement, linearity/progression and weapon slots...and if you could post some in-game vids or even screenshots...

[lagrenouille]

Don't listen to OP's whining, the game is good. Go get it.

LOL, not at all, it sux!
If i had the choice again, i wouldnt buy it...
it is a total failure.. :mad:

[YellowTree]

Sure, I'll make a new topic with my review when I'm ready. Considering it's almost weekend, that shouldn't take too long..

[marekfreak1]

LOL, not at all, it sux!
If i had the choice again, i wouldnt buy it...
it is a total failure.. :mad:

...That is exactly what Crysis 2 was for me.

I hope I'll have a different opinion/experience once I get my copy today. Otherwise, I'll just have to learn patience and wait for solid player reviews of games in the future.

But so far, there is a lot of negativity towards the PC version of DNF.

[JoxerNL]

This game is exactly what i expected from a Duke game, humor and kicking alien behind.

Those who whine should question the reasons for whineing, it looks too much like Halo i read a few posts down, well didn't the first duke look alot like Quake, or Wolfenstein or Doom?
Seriously whineing about this part makes you look like a complete and totall tool as you just missed the point of the Duke Nukem Franchise.

Only problem i found personally is the mouse, which was OH so easily fixed a bloody 4 y old could do it... options-> Mouse Sensativity.

Was that so hard?
Right.

[Maksie99]

DNF is appealing!!!

Fixed it for ya :)

[Batf1nk]

And again it starts.

Please keep to the left, keep all hands, legs and other appendages inside the carriage and enjoy your stay.

:cool:

[vampyrdeath]

You dont buy the game for graphical preference's you buy it because ITS THE DUKE!! i love it bar the minor setback for some reason the game was major laggy so had to take it off full screen but epic game non the less
"i got balls of..fail" lol EPIC

[Wurzel_Pummage]

If this game was called Mr. Testosterone man's Alien Killing Adventure and didn't have the Duke Nukem title nobody would give a ♥♥♥♥ about this game.


That's not entirely true. I would snap that up in a heartbeat :p

[Alienware Gamer]

Fixed it for ya :) Thanks man but it just got a 999Gb update via Steam so it now reads like this!!! Bulletstorm takes an almighty dump on Duke Nukem Forever as it does a much better job of making a 2011 PC game which contains adult toilet humour but actually makes it all appear so effortless it only highlights how hard Duke is trying to recapture that crown & how much he is failing to do so!

2K/gearbox made a huge commercial error in finishing this game & offering on PC as a full price product. Standards are much higher on PC console owners will not be that surprised (although I note even they are complaining about poor gfx & dated gameplay).

If they had made it a worldwide release date it would have been too late for many in the US to cancel now all they have done is give that option to PC gamers where the game is not yet released & they can research exactly why people are hating on it. Do not be surprised if US PC owners can buy this game before the 14th as that is the only way they can contain the damage now!!

If this was a budget priced game like it should be then you would not hear much about it as no-one would expect that much but releasing it as a full price game on PC is very naughty indeed & will system format in the minds of many any goodwill they felt towards Gearbox!! We already know 2K consider PC gamers to be an afterthought/annoyance :p

[Alienware Gamer]

Dear OP,

You are more then welcome to go back to your "realistic" CoD type of game, it sure sounds like you are indeed fitting-in with the crowd of the mindless drones who play that game.

I hope you have fun in your own ventures with the 'masses' :)

Your joking right most of COD is gameplay garbage. COD4/MW2 I felt were pretty decent the rest are console cash cows designed for maximum DLC purchases & to entice younger players into the genre then get them to buy that $120 must have a night vision headset special edition etc etc

If your happy to spend full price on a very dated & overall poor Duke game then good for you 2K/gearbox have hit the mark. Please let me know how you feel about that purchase in a few days......

Battlefield 3 is the only hope FPS PC gaming has this year of not being a total wipeout.........

[willravage]

must admit, after all the whining i thought it would suck, but just played for a couple of hours and im really enjoying it. it feels like duke to me, its ridiculous, funny, and just oTT compared to modern boring "real life" style shooters. bad points, 1. 2 weapons, 2. regen health and 3. multiplayer sucks. but im still really enjoying the single player campaign. its refreshing, witty and enjoyable. it doesn't take itself seriously and neither should anyone.

[lagrenouille]

This is the problem with today's gamers. All they want to play games for is graphics. Gameplay always, ALWAYS comes first. Graphics last. Look at Terraria. Crappy 2D, blocky graphics, yet it's very popular.

I don't give a hoot about graphics. I didn't buy a game to look at graphics, I bought the game to PLAY it.

neither do i.. content is more important than graphics...
but the problem is more about the fact that console-gameplay always sux on PC!:mad:

[crack0dile]

kids get mad

[blackforce]

US based PC gamers are lucky for once you can just cancel your pre-orders so you do not need to waste money on this like I just did. Sorry but its a poor game Duke or not. Without the Duke name it would be a sub £5 product if that. I was all ready to love it now I could not care less about it :(

Here is why I think this (and yes I am old enough to have bought & loved the original Duke + Atomic editions in 1996).

1: Gfx are really poor/bland. Its all UT2.5 based & looks just plain/poor/bland. Generic looking environments. Average designs nothing special you have not seen a thousand times before.

2: Gameplay is just simple puzzles like pick this up place it here or rip this off the wall. Collision detection is poor in places. Sure there is plenty to do but its all pretty pointless. Eat this eat that drink this drink that for powerups visit the toilet take a leak etc etc.

3: Even with Crysis1 quality gfx this would seem dated its just more of the same as the 1996 Duke in a slightly better looking game engine.

Its shocking to think how much time/money was wasted on this as even in 2001 this would have seemed passable but nothing much more. 3D Realms deserved to go bust if this is what they were working on!!!

If you can look past a very dated looking game which should be 50% cheaper minimum & enjoy juvenille adult humour in your generic FPS with dated gameplay & a confusing mission structure then this is your game but for me I expected a little more & will struggle to even play it to see the end as its so boring already after the 1st hour I am like how long is this thing :( I think they should have let this die naturally polishing it up is just asking for financial problems once the pre-order hype goes away all that is left is a dated game which would struggle 6 years ago to make any impact now its a questionable decision to release it (other than 2K wanted to get some money back right before writing this off!!!)

2K/Gearbox shame on you for setting the price as a full game when you full well know its not even close to the same quality but that's ok gamers have long memories when it comes to stunts like this & all the advertising revenue for positive reviews in the world cannot keep the truth back forever.........

thanks, i knew this before you ever posted this, from playing the demo, i uninstalled that crap so fast, 49.99 for this outdated crap. bottom of the ben sounds more like it at 9.99 if even that.

[blackforce]

i'd expect this level of stupidity from someone with the username "Alienware Gamer"

i think your talking about yourself, dumb ♥♥♥.

[blackforce]

You dont buy the game for graphical preference's you buy it because ITS THE DUKE!! i love it bar the minor setback for some reason the game was major laggy so had to take it off full screen but epic game non the less
"i got balls of..fail" lol EPIC

yea i see a nother dumb ♥♥♥, buying a game for a name is what dumb ♥♥♥'s do.

[TimM]

i think your talking about yourself, dumb ♥♥♥.

Well, in a way he is right if we exclude offending him. Alienware is extreme crap.

[Batf1nk]

Well, in a way he is right if we exclude offending him. Alienware is extreme crap.

Indeed! He should change his name to Dell Gamer, that is more accurate.

[Custom333]

3: Even with Crysis1 quality gfx this would seem dated its just more of the same as the 1996 Duke in a slightly better looking game engine.

What's ironic is that you're the only person on here who's complaining about it not changing. :D

[Alienware Gamer]

Well, in a way he is right if we exclude offending him. Alienware is extreme crap. I agree they are now junk but I bought my 3 Alienware PC's before Dell got there mucky hands on it & ruined the company forever!!

[lagrenouille]

Alienware is extreme crap.

so is DNF :o

[GodSmacked]

This is the problem with today's gamers. All they want to play games for is graphics. Gameplay always, ALWAYS comes first. Graphics last. Look at Terraria. Crappy 2D, blocky graphics, yet it's very popular.

I don't give a hoot about graphics. I didn't buy a game to look at graphics, I bought the game to PLAY it.

i love how so called PC gamers complain about consoles when in fact besides mouse/keyboard gameplay this is the main reason people play on PCs...for GRAPHICS...so rant all you want...I'm sure you will be playing BF3 on low-low dx9 settings saying how awesome it is compared to consolized crap

[DEMON212]

US based PC gamers are lucky for once you can just cancel your pre-orders so you do not need to waste money on this like I just did. Sorry but its a poor game Duke or not. Without the Duke name it would be a sub £5 product if that. I was all ready to love it now I could not care less about it :(

Here is why I think this (and yes I am old enough to have bought & loved the original Duke + Atomic editions in 1996).

1: Gfx are really poor/bland. Its all UT2.5 based & looks just plain/poor/bland. Generic looking environments. Average designs nothing special you have not seen a thousand times before.

2: Gameplay is just simple puzzles like pick this up place it here or rip this off the wall. Collision detection is poor in places. Sure there is plenty to do but its all pretty pointless. Eat this eat that drink this drink that for powerups visit the toilet take a leak etc etc.

3: Even with Crysis1 quality gfx this would seem dated its just more of the same as the 1996 Duke in a slightly better looking game engine.

Its shocking to think how much time/money was wasted on this as even in 2001 this would have seemed passable but nothing much more. 3D Realms deserved to go bust if this is what they were working on!!!

If you can look past a very dated looking game which should be 50% cheaper minimum & enjoy juvenille adult humour in your generic FPS with dated gameplay & a confusing mission structure then this is your game but for me I expected a little more & will struggle to even play it to see the end as its so boring already after the 1st hour I am like how long is this thing :( I think they should have let this die naturally polishing it up is just asking for financial problems once the pre-order hype goes away all that is left is a dated game which would struggle 6 years ago to make any impact now its a questionable decision to release it (other than 2K wanted to get some money back right before writing this off!!!)

2K/Gearbox shame on you for setting the price as a full game when you full well know its not even close to the same quality but that's ok gamers have long memories when it comes to stunts like this & all the advertising revenue for positive reviews in the world cannot keep the truth back forever.........

1. Graphics mean jack.

2. And you've beaten the game 100% to know that EVERY puzzle is like this? Oh, wait, I see below you say you've played an hour.

3. So you're complaining that a Duke game plays like a Duke game???

Wow, I've seen some stupid things online, but...

[CosmicD]

lol, makes me remind that scene in back to the future 2 where marty mcfly is playing this gun slinger game and some kid comes in and goes like OMG boring you have to use a controller :P

[KingFisher316]

What annoys me most is that this guy actually thinks his opinion matters.

Why in Gods name would people listen to your rambling instead of testing the game for themselves?

Grow up and gtfo!

[lagrenouille]

3. So you're complaining that a Duke game plays like a Duke game???

duke game is played like PC-game, not console-game!

[GodSmacked]

1. Graphics mean jack.

...

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH!

[Rancor26]

1. Graphics mean jack.

2. And you've beaten the game 100% to know that EVERY puzzle is like this? Oh, wait, I see below you say you've played an hour.

3. So you're complaining that a Duke game plays like a Duke game???

Wow, I've seen some stupid things online, but...

Not to mention that he is using overpriced Alienware computers.

[analyst88]

Basically this game should have a 21+ age tag. I can't see anyone enjoying this if they haven't played Duke3D around 1996-2000.

[Batf1nk]

I agree they are now junk but I bought my 3 Alienware PC's before Dell got there mucky hands on it & ruined the company forever!!

Yeah, me too. Alienware used to be awesome, quite the opposite now.

All the Alienware team, when they moved to Dell, left and started Origin PC.

[TheDancingFetus]

1. Graphics mean jack.

2. And you've beaten the game 100% to know that EVERY puzzle is like this? Oh, wait, I see below you say you've played an hour.

3. So you're complaining that a Duke game plays like a Duke game???

Wow, I've seen some stupid things online, but...

This doesn't play like a Duke game. You have regen health and only 2 weapons at a time. All Demo reviews of this game has made me cancel my preorder, and I don't care about graphics (I played through Quake 2 with original textures last weak).

This is not what I wanted for a Duke game.

[Alienware Gamer]

Interesting development Metacritic are not allowing PC user reviews right now!!!!!!! Someone got in a negative review now the button is missing!!! Tells you all you need to know really..............

[analyst88]

Interesting development Metacritic are not allowing PC user reviews right now!!!!!!! Someone got in a negative review now the button is missing!!! Tells you all you need to know really..............

User reviews on metacritic are useless anyway. I don't know why people even bother reading them. It's either 10 or 0.

[s3nr1]

Thanks for proving my point.

The demo reflects the full game, just like DA2 demo sucked, the full game sucked as well. Get the pattern ? Maybe you're a bit slow so take your time.

I would rather wait for a sale since the graphics won't get any uglier. LOL.

[TimM]

so is DNF :o

Eh, I am actually pleasently surprised. Cheap ♥♥♥ potty humor and mindless killing, just like the old game pretty much.

[best_death_ever]

gearbox did a very nice job bringing this CLASSIC to us and all you can do is CRY about graphics, 2 weap slots, mimimi, mimimi? wow.
you have no idea what this game represent for who really like the franchise. lol

Hail to the king

This game is pretty sweet, every time a look at a background object or walls etc a find something to remind me just how sick/twisted duke games are, and im very happy to have pre-ordered and got Ltd ed. the game series is one I have enjoyed since I was young, and playing this game just reminds me of duke3d, The graphics aren't the best, no were near the worst and to be honest not sure what others are complying about, but this game should have been released about 4 years ago ne way imo.

[jsimak]

Hello everybody,

i want to share my opinion on the game.

I was looking forward to play this game, trailers were great, i was very excited. When demo came out, i decided i will play it even though i never play demos because they very often sucks.
Well, i was very disappointed when i finished the demo. Two weapons limit, ego bar, poor animations ... i was thinking about cancellation of my pre-order.

Well, i am glad that i didnt do it! I did not expected much from this game but after four hours of playing it, i was very pleased. It has a lots of good and funny moments, gameplay is good, graphics not bad. Sounds and music are very good too. Level design isnt bad, its very linear, but its ok. Half life 2 was very linear too :).

This game isnt for gamers who want real-crysis-or-cod-like-graphics and real-shooting-experience game. This game is for those who want to "turn off brain" and just laugh and shoot a lot of alien bastards like in old DN3D.

And a word to those who says that game is sh**.
If you dont like it, dont buy it. Its that simple.
If you want a non-linear game, crysis like graphics and gameplay go and play something else. This is not game for you.

For those others who want to enjoy lot of fun and crazy shooting: its worth that 40€.

Greetings from Czech rep.
ps: sorry for my english :)

[Kittehs!]

I'll pick it up when it's on a sale, but not before...

[analyst88]

Hello everybody,

i want to share my opinion on the game.

I was looking forward to play this game, trailers were great, i was very excited. When demo came out, i decided i will play it even though i never play demos because they very often sucks.
Well, i was very disappointed when i finished the demo. Two weapons limit, ego bar, poor animations ... i was thinking about cancellation of my pre-order.

Well, i am glad that i didnt do it! I did not expected much from this game but after four hours of playing it, i was very pleased. It has a lots of good and funny moments, gameplay is good, graphics not bad. Sounds and music are very good too. Level design isnt bad, its very linear, but its ok. Half life 2 was very linear too :).

This game isnt for gamers who want real-crysis-or-cod-like-graphics and real-shooting-experience game. This game is for those who want to "turn off brain" and just laugh and shoot a lot of alien bastards like in old DN3D.

And a word to those who says that game is sh**.
If you dont like it, dont buy it. Its that simple.
If you want a non-linear game, crysis like graphics and gameplay go and play something else. This is not game for you.

For those others who want to enjoy lot of fun and crazy shooting: its worth that 40€.

Greetings from Czech rep.
ps: sorry for my english :)
Don't apologize for your English. It's very good.

This is not a game for the current generation. This is a game for the generation that grew up with Doom, Duke3D, Quake and Warcraft 2.

[Verwandlung]

Not really as it is nothing like those games.

[LiqMat]

i'd expect this level of stupidity from someone with the username "Alienware Gamer"

U took the w:eek:rds right out of my mouth!

[ParadiseDecay]

Im jumping on the hate train for this one....

I purchased the game today, rest assured its going back for a full refund tomorrow. And I thought Daikatana was bad!

[Atomic Hamster]

Soooooooooooooooo glad I cancelled my pre-order after the terribad demo. And oh look the full game is the same as the demo!

What you fanbois gonna do now!?

[kevycanavan]

30 quid for this.
Save it. Buy yourself Amnesia: The Dark Descent and a cheap handjob!

[Lordcontaminus]

Well, good thing we still have Bulletstorm. That's what Duke should have been all along, as far as I'm concerned.

[Aimrobot]

Must admit after completing the game i got dissapointed, it felt like i just played first chapter and the game was over.
I did alot of ego boost searching and found like 80% of them, but after a while they got annoying, i felt i was looking around on walls floors for any hidden stuff and forgot completely i was in a shooting game.
Im sad to see creators of duke nukem take the gameplay style of modern games like crysis/halo/cod.
Duke nukem 3d might have bad grafik for todays game but i would still prefer it over duke nukem forever and i feel the replay value is close to zero :(

Maybe its just me but i rather play doom2/quake1/2 and duke3d than modern fps games.

What i found positive about duke nukem forever
The humor was still ther.
It had some duke nukem feel like duke everywhere and the nuke symbol.
The monsters was nice made and they looked like a new version of duke monsters.
Babes :cool:
Sadly thats about all the juice i can press out of it :(

[j3s0n]

This is the problem with today's gamers. All they want to play games for is graphics. Gameplay always, ALWAYS comes first. Graphics last. Look at Terraria. Crappy 2D, blocky graphics, yet it's very popular.

I don't give a hoot about graphics. I didn't buy a game to look at graphics, I bought the game to PLAY it.

Some people buy games for the visual appeal.

Please don't be so contentious.

[blackforce]

The demo reflects the full game, just like DA2 demo sucked, the full game sucked as well. Get the pattern ? Maybe you're a bit slow so take your time.

I would rather wait for a sale since the graphics won't get any uglier. LOL.

man you can't tell thease sucker's nothing at all, let them spend for a pos game, yea duck is what it should be called. oh and by the way i can wait another 14 years to play this crap lol, get it when it's 2.99. might pass it up for that price, the demo tells it all, and game play sucks also.

[F-Minus]

As far as I know BioShock 2 was running on a modified UE 2.5 (opposed to BioShock 1 whichw as on UE3.0) and that game looked 50 times better as DNF.

That said, Duke Nukem Forever looks like it's running on UE1.0, the game play is also tad on the boring side pretty much. When I came out of the Lady Killer casino, and saw the blocky trucks & cars I couldn't take it anymore and quit the game.

I'm not a graphics ♥♥♥♥♥, but the game looks like it should be out in 2002-2003 era and we're now in 2011 - I'm spoiled. Even Swat4 (2005) running on the same engine looks 20 times better.

Whatever 3DR was doing they were doing it wrong. The leveldesign is one of the worst in this decade, high walls blocking the view, cause someone didn't have a clue how to make a skybox and what not, it's just bad. Can't stand to look at the game.

Gameplay up to the point I mentioned was heavily scripted and not fun at all. That RC car part was just abysmal and made me want to quit right there, said it only gets better, but as said, just can't take it anymore, it's really bad.

Gearbox should have just gotten the license and make a game from scratch, if they would have done it, it would have looked a million times better instead of patching the 3DR turd up as much as they could. I'm not blaming them, you can't make gold out of ♥♥♥♥, and ♥♥♥♥ is what 3DR gave them. It was a mistake to pick the dead horse up, that is for sure now.

Sad day for Duke Nukem.

[blackforce]

Must admit after completing the game i got dissapointed, it felt like i just played first chapter and the game was over.
I did alot of ego boost searching and found like 80% of them, but after a while they got annoying, i felt i was looking around on walls floors for any hidden stuff and forgot completely i was in a shooting game.
Im sad to see creators of duke nukem take the gameplay style of modern games like crysis/halo/cod.
Duke nukem 3d might have bad grafik for todays game but i would still prefer it over duke nukem forever and i feel the replay value is close to zero :(

Maybe its just me but i rather play doom2/quake1/2 and duke3d than modern fps games.

What i found positive about duke nukem forever
The humor was still ther.
It had some duke nukem feel like duke everywhere and the nuke symbol.
The monsters was nice made and they looked like a new version of duke monsters.
Babes :cool:
Sadly thats about all the juice i can press out of it :(

if you like little kids jokes i guess it's a game for you, that ♥♥♥♥ is played out.

[cheeriokilla]

This game looks terrible, not only in visual style but gameplay-wise... There's supposed to be some kind of evolution, right?

WHERE IS IT!?

[blackforce]

As far as I know BioShock 2 was running on a modified UE 2.5 (opposed to BioShock 1 whichw as on UE3.0) and that game looked 50 times better as DNF.

That said, Duke Nukem Forever looks like it's running on UE1.0, the game play is also tad on the boring side pretty much. When I came out of the Lady Killer casino, and saw the blocky trucks & cars I couldn't take it anymore and quit the game.

I'm not a graphics ♥♥♥♥♥, but the game looks like it should be out in 2002-2003 era and we're now in 2011 - I'm spoiled. Even Swat4 (2005) running on the same engine looks 20 times better.

Whatever 3DR was doing they were doing it wrong. The leveldesign is one of the worst in this decade, high walls blocking the view, cause someone didn't have a clue how to make a skybox and what not, it's just bad. Can't stand to look at the game.

Gameplay up to the point I mentioned was heavily scripted and not fun at all. That RC car part was just abysmal and made me want to quit right there, said it only gets better, but as said, just can't take it anymore, it's really bad.

Gearbox should have just gotten the license and make a game from scratch, if they would have done it, it would have looked a million times better instead of patching the 3DR turd up as much as they could. I'm not blaming them, you can't make gold out of ♥♥♥♥, and ♥♥♥♥ is what 3DR gave them. It was a mistake to pick the dead horse up, that is for sure now.

Sad day for Duke Nukem.

thanks man well said.

[blackforce]

Some people buy games for the visual appeal.

Please don't be so contentious.

hmmm 7 post, sounds like you got a investment in this pile of crap. oh why should they not? thats why we buy up too date hardware nuff said.

[tixe]

The graphic is not the problem, the problem is the bad performance of the game. It's bad ported to pc.

And there is those boring tasks to finish without any action. Just small puzzles, this can maybe be fun on nintendo ds but not pc..

I couldn't care less for graphics, I hate crysis 1 graphics and 2. A good game should be fun to play no matter what graphics it uses.

Well, I spent 30euro on this pre release. I guess it can be worth 10 hours of playing but hardly. Maybe if sdk will be released... but I doubt it.

Lordcontaminus:
Bulletstorm has no multiplayer. Not really worth a 50 euro no matter how fun it can be for a few hours.

[blackforce]

The graphic is not the problem, the problem is the bad performance of the game. It's bad ported to pc.

And there is those boring tasks to finish without any action. Just small puzzles, this can maybe be fun on nintendo ds but not pc..

I couldn't care less for graphics, I hate crysis 1 graphics and 2. A good game should be fun to play no matter what graphics it uses.

WRONG look up thats why we buy highend hardware, not to run outdated poo.

[Lister of Smeg]

US based PC gamers are lucky for once you can just cancel your pre-orders so you do not need to waste money on this like I just did. Sorry but its a poor game Duke or not. Without the Duke name it would be a sub £5 product if that. I was all ready to love it now I could not care less about it :(

Here is why I think this (and yes I am old enough to have bought & loved the original Duke + Atomic editions in 1996).

1: Gfx are really poor/bland. Its all UT2.5 based & looks just plain/poor/bland. Generic looking environments. Average designs nothing special you have not seen a thousand times before.

2: Gameplay is just simple puzzles like pick this up place it here or rip this off the wall. Collision detection is poor in places. Sure there is plenty to do but its all pretty pointless. Eat this eat that drink this drink that for powerups visit the toilet take a leak etc etc.

3: Even with Crysis1 quality gfx this would seem dated its just more of the same as the 1996 Duke in a slightly better looking game engine.

Its shocking to think how much time/money was wasted on this as even in 2001 this would have seemed passable but nothing much more. 3D Realms deserved to go bust if this is what they were working on!!!

If you can look past a very dated looking game which should be 50% cheaper minimum & enjoy juvenille adult humour in your generic FPS with dated gameplay & a confusing mission structure then this is your game but for me I expected a little more & will struggle to even play it to see the end as its so boring already after the 1st hour I am like how long is this thing :( I think they should have let this die naturally polishing it up is just asking for financial problems once the pre-order hype goes away all that is left is a dated game which would struggle 6 years ago to make any impact now its a questionable decision to release it (other than 2K wanted to get some money back right before writing this off!!!)

2K/Gearbox shame on you for setting the price as a full game when you full well know its not even close to the same quality but that's ok gamers have long memories when it comes to stunts like this & all the advertising revenue for positive reviews in the world cannot keep the truth back forever.........

Maybe that's the whole point the game looks bland as you put it. maybe they may it feel like a game that did come out in 1996. Have you ever played any of the originals?

[GodSmacked]

I couldn't care less for graphics, I hate crysis 1 graphics and 2.



well THAT'S A FIRST!..sir, I would love to know your computer specs just to prove you wrong :)

[F-Minus]

Maybe that's the whole point the game looks bland as you put it. maybe they may it feel like a game that did come out in 1996. Have you ever played any of the originals?

No, that's the worst reasoning ever. Why would they intentionally make the game look like it's from 1996 like you say? No point in that really.

The engine is powerful enough like we've seen in so many games up-to-date, but whoever was designing levels is just bad at it. Tons of props which look exactly the same doesn't make a fun level - lighting is crap most of the time, and huge walls to cover areas where the designer didn't know how to put a vista or something else. Also everything but a few things is low-poly like it's really from 1996.

It is just a bad game. If it wasn't for the Duke Nukem name, 90% of gamers would spit on it and say it's a really bad game.

[Alienware Gamer]

Maybe that's the whole point the game looks bland as you put it. maybe they may it feel like a game that did come out in 1996. Have you ever played any of the originals? Whatever dude like they intentionally made it look like a massive POS is a new one to me!!Sorry but its just a poor game without the Duke brand this would be getting no interest from 99.9% of PC gamers.

I am old enough to have been a PC gamer since 1992 & yes I have played the originals as well as many other fine games 3D or otherwise in the last 19 years on PC so I have a reasonable idea of what I think is passable having been burnt so many times by rubbish like this but even then I allowed sentiment to get the better of me & trust Gearbox on this but more fool me for being so naive I will not make that mistake again & Randy Pitchford I am calling you out sir as an oscar quality actor in your recent PR for this you had me convinced so well played but if you were serious/genuine your incredibly naive/innocent to think for a moment that the game you finished is worth full price & anything less than a disaster so good luck with future games on PC my friend!

[Havok316]

Seriously!!! This game is awesome, its corny its fun, lots of interaction, great gameplay and relives duke nukem!! The graphics actually isnt that bad at all a little juddering on the mouse but thats easily fixed in a patch etc.

Stop whining about the graphics....ffs winge winge winge.

[Janosuk]

I'm a troll, please ignore me.

Duly noted.

[AlHudson1]

Obviously DNF is not good enough is logical this game was originally designed in 1997. (Gameplay, Story...)

However DNF is a point of entry for future releases and is a resurrection for the saga.

[darrensimmons]

I think I'm a pretty easy to please person who buys almost every first person shooter however good or bad. I love Gearbox games and have borderlands and all brothers in arms games and I am very easy to please. Give me a gun and I'm happy for hours.
I have played 3 hours of the game so have a good indication of what the rest of the game will be like and I have to say I think it's the weakest shooter I have played in a long time!
Yes it's supposed to be cheesy but wow the guns and combat are so bad it just kills the fun.
Perhaps if it was a £14.99 release I would be able to handle it but the plain truth is, to me, and this is my honest opinion, the game is just too weak and the fights arer so boring that if you do get killed and reload the checkpoint it's a real pain in the butt.
I am actually really trying to find something positive but if you are on the fence then you probably will not be please if you decide to purchase.
There are alot of really top quality games coming this year and this is just not good enough for £30.
I didn't think the graphics were that bad until I got outside and then it hit me. No love has been given to the levels or artwork and earlier someone on this thread stated that the graphics look like bulletstorm but better. No way I'm afraid. The games are a world apart in every way.

[Phreeflo]

Demo didnt' sell me.

Plays like crap, controls like crap, looks like crap, it's the crap tri-fecta.

[Smilomaniac]

I'd just like to state that saying the game is horrible, is hyperbole.
It's not, it's not even bad.

But it's not the game anyone hoped for and it has several lackluster points that makes it tedious at times.

The game is mostly fun, there is challenge in it, there are fun references, there are mildly interesting features and some of the scripted events are quite well made, while most of them are either "meh" or annoying, but they don't ruin the game.

Objectively, if it didn't have the Duke Nukem brand on it, and if it wasn't so long in the making, it might even have been praised.

But the days of good shooters are over. If you want challenge, fast paced action, and I mean really fast paced, then play some of the first Unreal Tournament games. Even the latter ones are actually quite good, but suffer from console disorders.

I have a dread feeling when playing this and I know it's because I'm biased and clouded by dissapointment and nostalgia, but when I look at it objectively, there are much worse titles out there and all the better ones are at least 5-10 years older.

Consoles have ruined shooters forever, that's all there is to it. I don't care how good you are with your controllers at FPS', I don't care that people are able to enjoy a shooter on a console and I don't care that making PC exclusive games isn't profitable enough. Console deteriorated games are killing shooters and DNF is so far the greatest victim I have ever seen.

[darrensimmons]

I'd just like to state that saying the game is horrible, is hyperbole.
It's not, it's not even bad.

But it's not the game anyone hoped for and it has several lackluster points that makes it tedious at times.

The game is mostly fun, there is challenge in it, there are fun references, there are mildly interesting features and some of the scripted events are quite well made, while most of them are either "meh" or annoying, but they don't ruin the game.

Objectively, if it didn't have the Duke Nukem brand on it, and if it wasn't so long in the making, it might even have been praised.


But the days of good shooters are over. If you want challenge, fast paced action, and I mean really fast paced, then play some of the first Unreal Tournament games. Even the latter ones are actually quite good, but suffer from console disorders.

I have a dread feeling when playing this and I know it's because I'm biased and clouded by dissapointment and nostalgia, but when I look at it objectively, there are much worse titles out there and all the better ones are at least 5-10 years older.

Consoles have ruined shooters forever, that's all there is to it. I don't care how good you are with your controllers at FPS', I don't care that people are able to enjoy a shooter on a console and I don't care that making PC exclusive games isn't profitable enough. Console deteriorated games are killing shooters and DNF is so far the greatest victim I have ever seen.

Would you not agree that for a £30 title it is indeed pretty bad?

[gibur]

Most people is mad and is saying DKF is bad cuz the graphics. Guys u are just mad cuz u spent 800 dollars in hardware and this game does not take advantage of it.

Personally I bought the game and I like it. I dont care about graphics, I bought it cuz DAMN!!! It's Duke Nukem. I know its a remake of the 1996 DN but the game is good. The game caught Duke's personality again (He is a star and he got the chicks).

instead of telling people not to buy it let them try it. Most of us waited 12 years for the game and Im sure real fans are enjoying it.

Happy customer,

Gibur

[marekfreak1]

I think this review pretty much sums it up for me. I'm still going to activate my pre-order on Steam.

http://i.joystiq.com/2011/06/10/duke-nukem-forever-review-fail-to-the-king-baby/

But this will be my last game from Gearbox. The last time I ever succumb to marketing hype. And the last time I will ever buy a consolised PC crap fest for a game.

I'm done with it all.

Duke is dead.

[F-Minus]

Most people is mad and is saying DKF is bad cuz the graphics. Guys u are just mad cuz u spent 800 dollars in hardware and this game does not take advantage of it.

Personally I bought the game and I like it. I dont care about graphics, I bought it cuz DAMN!!! It's Duke Nukem. I know its a remake of the 1996 DN but the game is good. The game caught Duke's personality again (He is a star and he got the chicks).

instead of telling people not to buy it let them try it. Most of us waited 12 years for the game and Im sure real fans are enjoying it.

Happy customer,

Gibur

It's not a remake, it's a sequel. The first level is a remake, when you finish the final boss of Duke3D, rest is a sequel. And for a sequel it plays and looks like ♥♥♥♥.

A 5 year old PC can run this game at a decent framerate, so no it's not about hardware enthusiasts whining about how the game looks it just looks bad - and it's not the engine whihc is to blame, since there's been numerous games with the same engine that look a lot, and i mean a lot better, namely Bioshock 2 for example.

The level design is real bad, if fact it's so bad that I thought they might have picked user created levels from people who just picked up the editor 10 hours before making this level I was currently playing. Art in the game from props and others is so low poly it's crying already...

See-saw puzzles and similar in this game, lol, please it's 2011.

2 weapon loadout, ego meter that replenishes when you run away from combat, yeah must be a real ego boost to run to your momma. and all the other things make it bad.

Enemies that stop moving when they can't see you or are too far way, standing like frozen sculptures, punching them, making the models stretch as if they are our of gum etc.. buggy piece of game.

[LedBetter]

And yet you bought the game... It's not like they weren't up front about the immaturity.

As someone who's never played a Duke Nukem game, I'm looking for something with interesting weapons, enemies, and personality. As long as this game is constantly showering me in Duke's super macho-ness and is satisfying to play, I'll be fine. And mini-games in a shooter sound like something interesting to me at least. Again, the presence of mini-games shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone that paid attention to the development trailers.

The one thing that gives me pause is the issue of being unable to carry a massive arsenal. I may not have played Duke Nukem, but Perfect Dark, Half Life, and Metal Gear all utilized massive arsenals and were fun because of it. Here's to hoping they add extra content later that lets you hang on to all the weapons you want. My suggestion: cheat codes in the main menu.

What's more retro than that?

Ugh...no I didn't buy the game. It's because I had purchased Borderlands when that promotion came on.

BTW:

40%
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/10/duke-nukem-forever-review-fail-to-the-king-baby/

Que the reviews don't matter people when it's a negative review of a game they tell themselves is good.

PS: People need to stop saying that Gearbox made this game. All they did was take this god awful game 3D realms was working on for over a decade and try to polish this turd up as much as possible to release it.

Another 40%
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/jun/10/duke-nukem-forever-game-review

A 50%
http://www.ausgamers.com/games/duke-nukem-forever/review/

You can defend this game all you want. You might find drawing a ♥♥♥♥♥ on a white board funny but most adults don't. The gameplay is not just archaic it's archaic in a bad way. Like I said before it has no idea what it wants to be. You see some elements from new age shooters then a bunch from the 90's. I can go on and on. Duke fans will defend this game to no end. What's funny is I can bet a lot of people defending this game weren't even gamers from the Duke age. They just think it's cool to pretend to know the character well. This game sucks plain and simple.

You can keep telling yourself reviews don't matter but when games like Rogue Warrior get 40%'s you all laugh and say "LOL that game sucks!" but when it's a game you spent money on you pretend that they don't matter.

Duke Nukem is dead. It's been buried to the ground with all the awful, awful games that have been made post Duke 3D. This was just the final nail in the coffin. This game should have stayed dead. 3D Realms has to be the worst dev in the entire world. This junk took over a decade? Just wow.

[krissz]

If you are not a fan of the good old "carry 18 weapon with you get a health pack and kick this ♥♥♥♥ing boss's ♥♥♥" then you're not going to like this game.

(btw you cant carry 18 weapon and there is no medkit but the gameplay reamins the same)

[GodSmacked]

so so so so glad I cancelled my preorder!

[LedBetter]

If you are not a fan of the good old "carry 18 weapon with you get a health pack and kick this ♥♥♥♥ing boss's ♥♥♥" then you're not going to like this game.

(btw you cant carry 18 weapon and there is no medkit but the gameplay reamins the same)

No I'm sorry. As you yourself said you can only carry two weapons and there is no med kit. So you destroyed your own argument. The gameplay sucks it's not the same. I went back and played Duke 3D I bought from GoG and it's a much better game than this crap besides the character being old and stale now.

People don't like this game because it sucks. I can still play old school games and have fun with them. Doom, Quake II, and the like. So it's not a matter of graphics or old school gameplay. This game is just bad.

[madafaka]

I'd just like to state that saying the game is horrible, is hyperbole.
It's not, it's not even bad.

But it's not the game anyone hoped for and it has several lackluster points that makes it tedious at times.

The game is mostly fun, there is challenge in it, there are fun references, there are mildly interesting features and some of the scripted events are quite well made, while most of them are either "meh" or annoying, but they don't ruin the game.

Objectively, if it didn't have the Duke Nukem brand on it, and if it wasn't so long in the making, it might even have been praised.

But the days of good shooters are over. If you want challenge, fast paced action, and I mean really fast paced, then play some of the first Unreal Tournament games. Even the latter ones are actually quite good, but suffer from console disorders.

I have a dread feeling when playing this and I know it's because I'm biased and clouded by dissapointment and nostalgia, but when I look at it objectively, there are much worse titles out there and all the better ones are at least 5-10 years older.

Consoles have ruined shooters forever, that's all there is to it. I don't care how good you are with your controllers at FPS', I don't care that people are able to enjoy a shooter on a console and I don't care that making PC exclusive games isn't profitable enough. Console deteriorated games are killing shooters and DNF is so far the greatest victim I have ever seen.

Console disorders will forever kill any future release as long as their life cycle is not reached. Any future release of a game is bound to abide to console's hardware specifications as well as playability. In other words, no game that cannot be rendered on consoles will ever be released, unless it is a PC exclusive.
Any game to be released has to be gamepad and controller super friendly.
This is "console disorders" explained

[anss123]

I've played for 99 minutes now according to steam. It's boring. Just plain dull and boring. Lame graphics, poor animations and dull gunplay sums my 99 minutes up. The most intense part up to now involved teleporting enemies, a flying fat guy and a few pig cops running around… That after 99 minutes of game play.

I can't quite get into words how booooring this game is, so check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Yngipvz6M

USAians, do yourself a favor and cancel your preorders.

[izihbo]

Obviously DNF is not good enough is logical this game was originally designed in 1997. (Gameplay, Story...)

However DNF is a point of entry for future releases and is a resurrection for the saga.

It's like you dug into my brain threw it out there. Thank you. +1 interwebz for you sir. This is indeed a point of entry for future releases. Nicely put.

Yes the graphics are dated, but they're not bad, most textures are pretty high res, low poly count but then again - nice flow and fast paced gameplay - high fps. Also: Make sure to disable vertical sync - I cannot stress this enough - DISABLE VERTICAL SYNC.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a monstertruck that needs some gas...

[marekfreak1]

so so so so glad I cancelled my preorder!

You my friend are one of the lucky ones. Want to know what's even sadder...

The full pirated version for the PC is already out mere hours from official release, but judging from official site and player reviews even pirated, it's not even worth the download. I find it truly ironic how pirates are able to deliver, but a game that has been in "development" for 15 years, that gets taken over by a reputable developer, only to be released in the state it is.... WOW. Motherfracking WOW!

Sad day for old school Duke Nukem fans.

Looks like Sam is our new savior and remains true to the cause.

At least DNF and it's failure to deliver makes me wanna go out and try BulletStorm for some old school mindless fun.

[GodSmacked]

It's like you dug into my brain threw it out there. Thank you. +1 interwebz for you sir. This is indeed a point of entry for future releases. Nicely put.

Yes the graphics are dated, but they're not bad, most textures are pretty high res, low poly count but then again - nice flow and fast paced gameplay - high fps. Also: Make sure to disable vertical sync - I cannot stress this enough - DISABLE VERTICAL SYNC.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a monstertruck that needs some gas...

haha...the demo? or are there repetitive missions in the full game?..it wouldn't surprise me in the least

[Gruwel]

Your #1 I don't care about, graphics doesn't matter much to me. Your #2 and #3 just makes me more psyched for this, awesome!

The fact that people are whining about it being "more of DN3D" or having old-school/dated gameplay and a lot of pointless interactions with the environment are really good signs to me!

Totally agree with you mate +1

I'm not sure if the op remembers what made DN3D fun in the first place.

[marekfreak1]

It's like you dug into my brain threw it out there. Thank you. +1 interwebz for you sir. This is indeed a point of entry for future releases. Nicely put.

Yes the graphics are dated, but they're not bad, most textures are pretty high res, low poly count but then again - nice flow and fast paced gameplay - high fps. Also: Make sure to disable vertical sync - I cannot stress this enough - DISABLE VERTICAL SYNC.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a monstertruck that needs some gas...

Point of entry? lolz More like a point of entry through a pig's butt crack.

I guess you've missed the reviews. Duke needs to be put to rest. It's that obvious from the reviews and player backlash. Duke is dead,'retired. Poor chump can only log two weapons at a time. Doctors orders.

Maybe give it ten years and do a reboot ala Batman style. But gamers have long memories. Just make sure Gearbox isn't involved.

[analyst88]

I'm actually having a blast with this game. Then again, I'm probably one of the few people who's got Bulletstorm up for GOTY 2011.

[YellowTree]

The amount of trolls in this thread is astonishing. It's sad that people have nothing better to do with their time.

[blackforce]

The amount of trolls in this thread is astonishing. It's sad that people have nothing better to do with their time.

and your one also. so don't hate.

[GodSmacked]

The amount of trolls in this thread is astonishing. It's sad that people have nothing better to do with their time.

defending this game is a waste of time, sir

[YellowTree]

No, coming to this forum to whine about a game that you don't like is a waste of time. It's rather pathetic.

[John1986]

never thought i'd agree with someone wanting a refund but having seeing and hearing what people have said i have to agree with them graphics arn't a big thing for me but the way the game is designed now just doesn't appeal to me at all very disapointing :(

[GodSmacked]

yellowtree, read 80% of the post here, you can't be calling us all crazy?!!?!

we don't mean to hurt your feelings, but it's not worth a new game price tag

sorry

[NorthernKingdom]

I've played for 99 minutes now according to steam. It's boring. Just plain dull and boring. Lame graphics, poor animations and dull gunplay sums my 99 minutes up. The most intense part up to now involved teleporting enemies, a flying fat guy and a few pig cops running around… That after 99 minutes of game play.

I can't quite get into words how booooring this game is, so check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Yngipvz6M

USAians, do yourself a favor and cancel your preorders.

I watched the video earlier and It nearly put me to sleep. The demo although terrible was better than the actual game. That's sad and this game looks like Daikatana #2. Delayed, bad graphics, terrible gameplay, and over hyped. The FPS genre has progressed significantly since 1996 and Duke 3D's debut but you can't tell by Duke Nukem Forever it feels, looks, and plays like some game from a decade earlier.

[magicdevil09]

So far i think the game is quite good, im happy i can max it out with no AA with 50-60+ fps all the time with a gts 250 on 1920x1080, the graphics aint that bad, if you want graphics go play crysis or metro 2033

[izihbo]

Point of entry? lolz More like a point of entry through a pig's butt crack.

I guess you've missed the reviews. Duke needs to be put to rest. It's that obvious from the reviews and player backlash. Duke is dead,'retired. Poor chump can only log two weapons at a time. Doctors orders.

Maybe give it ten years and do a reboot ala Batman style. But gamers have long memories. Just make sure Gearbox isn't involved.

Wtf are you talking about? I'm playing the actual game, not the demo. And I don't give flying f°ck about the reviews. I love the game, I haven't had so much fun in a long time.

And what's this crap about Duke is dead. Duke needs to be put to rest. Blah blah...
Duke is back! And kicking a$$.

[Remmib]

Strong amount of morons in this thread who have ♥♥♥♥ for taste.

This game sucks and that is a fact. Persist in your delusions if you wish, but do not attempt to spread your delusion to others.

[DEATH e.VADER]

1: Gfx are really poor/bland. Its all UT2.5 based & looks just plain/poor/bland. Generic looking environments. Average designs nothing special you have not seen a thousand times before.


I don't mind the textures and models. However I want to get rid of the excessive bloom and post-processing. Its screwing with my eyes and giving me a headache

The first person to recommend a way to do this will get a virtual cookie

[no3y3h4nd]

Your #1 I don't care about, graphics doesn't matter much to me. Your #2 and #3 just makes me more psyched for this, awesome!

The fact that people are whining about it being "more of DN3D" or having old-school/dated gameplay and a lot of pointless interactions with the environment are really good signs to me!

don't be - the game sucks - there are sub £9 steam games that leave this for dead ..

really poor.

really really poor.

total waste of £30 - they shouldn't have bothered finishing it - it's just embarrassing.

[Verwandlung]

I don't mind the textures and models. However I want to get rid of the excessive bloom and post-processing. Its screwing with my eyes and giving me a headache

The first person to recommend a way to do this will get a virtual cookie

http://www.flawlesswidescreen.org/

[j3s0n]

hmmm 7 post, sounds like you got a investment in this pile of crap. oh why should they not? thats why we buy up too date hardware nuff said.

I don't understand what you mean

[sywlyn]

Oooi, played 5 hours of duke and all i can say is this:

The fact that im going to bed before finishing it kinda tells me what i think of it... look, im not going to ♥♥♥♥♥ too much. I wanted a Duke game, i got one, great. But DNF REALLY is a average game. As much as I hate saying it... if this game was called ANYTHING else I wouldn't have spent more than a hour in it. Its really that average.

I really really really hope that NO ONE ever gives George Broussard a game to work on ever again. Then again, i assume he officially has the worst game designer resume on the planet (spends ages, millions to produce uncompleted average game). Sure my sister could pull that off too...

anywayz, thanks GB for bringing us Duke, we needed it. Just sad that after so many years its a boring experience.

[izihbo]

I don't mind the textures and models. However I want to get rid of the excessive bloom and post-processing. Its screwing with my eyes and giving me a headache

The first person to recommend a way to do this will get a virtual cookie

Just disable post processing. Problem solved.

[ozgeek]

Most people who complain here are more likely Call of Duty generation. Those who have never played pre-90's games just because they look bad. It's not the graphics that define a game. it's a game FFS.

Hey, even COD games have bad graphics. (I play COD myself :p) But duke is known for it's intense battles not graphics.

DNF stayed true to DN:3D. Both similar gameplay. :)

[Remmib]

Most people who complain here are more likely Call of Duty generation. Those who have never played pre-90's games just because they look bad. It's not the graphics that define a game. it's a game FFS.

Hey, even COD games have bad graphics. (I play COD myself :p) But duke is known for it's intense battles not graphics.

DNF stayed true to DN:3D. Both similar gameplay. :)

Shut up you god damned moron.

The gameplay is not similar in the least.

[lordon]

In 12 years time I would learn programming and make better game then this.

[Fruitmand]

Most people who complain here are more likely Call of Duty generation. Those who have never played pre-90's games just because they look bad. It's not the graphics that define a game. it's a game FFS.

Hey, even COD games have bad graphics. (I play COD myself :p) But duke is known for it's intense battles not graphics.

DNF stayed true to DN:3D. Both similar gameplay. :)

Really? Intense battles? How can you have intense battles with something like health regen ?

Ive played ALOT of DN:3D, all I can say is that back then i had more fun then i have now. This game is just a waste of money.

Sure graphics aint everything, but this. This is just crap. Wish they never made a new game.

[xxm4ch1nexx]

I new this was gonna be ♥♥♥♥! Just look ate the state of gaming as a whole we are being milked for our ££££ with games like crysis 2, bulletstorm and dragon age 2 and finally Duke pukem!

We need to all forget about the gaming industry and go out get some fresh air and spend our hard earned cash on items that actually deserve it!

[Product]

WRONG look up thats why we buy highend hardware, not to run outdated poo.

You would not have survived the 90's.

[sarcasm83]

1: Gfx are really poor/bland. Its all UT2.5 based & looks just plain/poor/bland. Generic looking environments. Average designs nothing special you have not seen a thousand times before.

2: Gameplay is just simple puzzles like pick this up place it here or rip this off the wall. Collision detection is poor in places. Sure there is plenty to do but its all pretty pointless. Eat this eat that drink this drink that for powerups visit the toilet take a leak etc etc.

3: Even with Crysis1 quality gfx this would seem dated its just more of the same as the 1996 Duke in a slightly better looking game engine.

Its shocking to think how much time/money was wasted on this as even in 2001 this would have seemed passable but nothing much more. 3D Realms deserved to go bust if this is what they were working on!!!

If you can look past a very dated looking game which should be 50% cheaper minimum & enjoy juvenille adult humour in your generic FPS with dated gameplay & a confusing mission structure then this is your game but for me I expected a little more & will struggle to even play it to see the end as its so boring already after the 1st hour I am like how long is this thing :( I think they should have let this die naturally polishing it up is just asking for financial problems once the pre-order hype goes away all that is left is a dated game which would struggle 6 years ago to make any impact now its a questionable decision to release it (other than 2K wanted to get some money back right before writing this off!!!)

2K/Gearbox shame on you for setting the price as a full game when you full well know its not even close to the same quality but that's ok gamers have long memories when it comes to stunts like this & all the advertising revenue for positive reviews in the world cannot keep the truth back forever.........

So, you played it for an hour?

Hmmmm. :|

I've been ok with it. (I never really expected something HUGE to begin with)

1. The graphics wouldn't have been any better 12 years ago. I don't care about the graphics, they're ok. And the dated graphics remind me even more of Duke 3d, so it's somewhat cool in a retro way.

2. You probably haven't seen the shrunken battles among all the ketchup jars yet and jumping on hamburgers to avoid the hot plate etc. as you've played a full hour of it, but as I've just played on, I've found it to be quite entertaining. It doesn't take itself seriously at all. And I'm not taking it serious either. It does feel like Duke Nukem. And I expected the juvenile humour and shamelessness. I mean, sure, opinions differ but I've had quite fun with it to be honest. (But yes, I admit, it's not one of those games that blow you away with graphics and geniousness, but as I mentioned; I never expected it to.)

3."its just more of the same as the 1996 Duke in a slightly better looking game engine." <- I don't know what's that awful about that :) I'd say it's a good thing, as Duke3d was awesome/hilarious and massive amounts of (offensive?) lighthearted stupid fun.


It's not game of the year, or a highly polished glossy Modern Warfare with war propaganda or an award winning plot. Games back then never were. I mean... what was doom's plot? I don't even know. Never really had a huge plot in Duke3d either. They took the babes, GIB em and have fun.

I'm ok with that.

The only thing I was bothered about was the health regen and 2 gun limit, as it's the only thing holding the old school vibe back. I wasn't looking for the exact same thing that's been done a million times lately so in my opinion this is a fun relaxin stroll through with a whole lot of "nothing serious" and comedy.

At least I laughed at the "Christian Bale's breakdown on the set" parody :D

And when Duke said "Tonight you dine in hell" etc...

It's meant to be idiotic, fun and entertaining.

Sure, I admit, about an hour in I felt bored too. But give it some time and don't take it so critically and you might just get entertained :)

(Not that I'm saying "CHANGE YOUR OPINION!!", just ... trying to get you to the right mindset I guess. As a favour)

[Alienware Gamer]

So, you played it for an hour?

Hmmmm. :|

I've been ok with it. (I never really expected something HUGE to begin with)

1. The graphics wouldn't have been any better 12 years ago. I don't care about the graphics, they're ok. And the dated graphics remind me even more of Duke 3d, so it's somewhat cool in a retro way.

2. You probably haven't seen the shrunken battles among all the ketchup jars yet and jumping on hamburgers to avoid the hot plate etc. as you've played a full hour of it, but as I've just played on, I've found it to be quite entertaining. It doesn't take itself seriously at all. And I'm not taking it serious either. It does feel like Duke Nukem. And I expected the juvenile humour and shamelessness. I mean, sure, opinions differ but I've had quite fun with it to be honest. (But yes, I admit, it's not one of those games that blow you away with graphics and geniousness, but as I mentioned; I never expected it to.)

3."its just more of the same as the 1996 Duke in a slightly better looking game engine." <- I don't know what's that awful about that :) I'd say it's a good thing, as Duke3d was awesome/hilarious and massive amounts of (offensive?) lighthearted stupid fun.


It's not game of the year, or a highly polished glossy Modern Warfare with war propaganda or an award winning plot. Games back then never were. I mean... what was doom's plot? I don't even know. Never really had a huge plot in Duke3d either. They took the babes, GIB em and have fun.

I'm ok with that.

The only thing I was bothered about was the health regen and 2 gun limit, as it's the only thing holding the old school vibe back. I wasn't looking for the exact same thing that's been done a million times lately so in my opinion this is a fun relaxin stroll through with a whole lot of "nothing serious" and comedy.

At least I laughed at the "Christian Bale's breakdown on the set" parody :D

And when Duke said "Tonight you dine in hell" etc...

It's meant to be idiotic, fun and entertaining.

Sure, I admit, about an hour in I felt bored too. But give it some time and don't take it so critically and you might just get entertained :)

(Not that I'm saying "CHANGE YOUR OPINION!!", just ... trying to get you to the right mindset I guess. As a favour) The only thing which would put me in the right mindset is a complete 100% refund this game is shocking Duke or no Duke its way below acceptible for a full price game. Make it 66% cheaper then no-one could complain much it becomes a budget title but full price for most gamers means a higher quality game experience.

DNF is at best an alpha version before most publishers in 2011 would quite rightly cancel it to avoid anymore commercial losses or reputation damage!!!

[Wiggles]

TB is an entertainer, not a reviewer or one to give a good solid "first impression".
He gives in too happily into the "rant" so his fans get all happy in their pants, which is fine, i like his videos, but take everything he says with a grain of salt.

I'm gonna try to be quick with this.

1. Yes, TB has a tendency to rant, and most people do watch his videos for entertainment value. That said, watching this video you still get a good feel for the game, and it is extremely slow for a Duke game. Taking that long to get into any decent action is just sad (and you can't blame the length of time on TB entirely). I will hold back any comments on graphics. Yes, graphics matter...to a point. Yes, I would overlook that for this game, IF IT WAS A DUKE GAME, which it sadly isn't.

2. Whatever the mission of these forums may be, I use them to get an idea of what I'm getting from a game. Yes, you will always find those few who will ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan about ANY game, but for the most part people who make these threads, or post in them, are stating their opinions. With that said, they are just that, opinions, and should be taken as such.

3. Sorry, but I will not be trusting anyone who opened their account just as a game released and has a low post count. I have a low post count because I don't post much, but I have been here for a while. There are people who make accounts every day, I understand this, I just find the number of new accounts defending bad games as of late a tad suspicious. Just a tip to the game devs/publishers, if you are going to make accounts with which to argue unfavorable forum posts, try making them at least a few months ahead of release.

[LedBetter]

Most people who complain here are more likely Call of Duty generation. Those who have never played pre-90's games just because they look bad. It's not the graphics that define a game. it's a game FFS.

Hey, even COD games have bad graphics. (I play COD myself :p) But duke is known for it's intense battles not graphics.

DNF stayed true to DN:3D. Both similar gameplay. :)

Hey buddy guess what. This IS a CoD like game. Deny it all you want.

Duke 3D if you even played it was nothing like this. It didn't point you in a direction and say "here dummy! Go to the glowing thing!" You had to figure things out yourself.

It did not stay true to DN:3D. We must have played a different game.

This sums it up quite well.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/117/1175194p1.html

"I'm still playing through at this point for review, so maybe Duke Nukem Forever will get better further in. So far, there's little worthy of praise. It's a clumsily put together game that, even when it tries hard to deliver exciting action set pieces like fights against giant bosses, feels dull and derivative. The only impressive part about Duke Nukem Forever is that it exists as a finished game. "

You all can defend this game all you want. It's trash.

[lgm1979]

Its shocking to think how much time/money was wasted on this as even in 2001 this would have seemed passable but nothing much more. 3D Realms deserved to go bust if this is what they were working on!!!



Ok, now I haven't played DNF yet (gotta wait till Tuesday!) but I can already see just from screenshots that this is leaps and bounds above what was around in 2001. Please go look at some games from 2001 then come back here and apologize for your troll post.

2001 graphics = horrendous

Your entire post fails based on this one part.

[vagan]

i´m no duke fan-boy at all. but after some hours i find this game is good old fun. the first hour is ... not very welcoming- imho - but after an certain point i started to enjoy it alot.yes - it feels very old school. and it looks dated. but i find it doesn´t look bad at all.( i had to reduce shadows to avoid lag though) even if i couldn´t laugh about the humor in the first hour- it surprised me with some unexpected "jump-laughters" later on.you got to get into the mood (some beer might help):D
there is alot different stuff going on- its an fast paced roller coaster with some hilarious scripted moments.i think some of them are going to stay in my memory. :)
you got to like this duke nukem guy. there is sure nothing quite like him...

[Alienware Gamer]

3. Sorry, but I will not be trusting anyone who opened their account just as a game released and has a low post count. I have a low post count because I don't post much, but I have been here for a while. There are people who make accounts every day, I understand this, I just find the number of new accounts defending bad games as of late a tad suspicious. Just a tip to the game devs/publishers, if you are going to make accounts with which to argue unfavorable forum posts, try making them at least a few months ahead of release. Have some rep & well said its what most of us suspected for a long time as just like with movies whenever people have a less than favourable opinion all of a sudden out of the woodwork come a lot of phantom posters who suddenly go quiet again until the next big thing is out & the cycle continues etc etc.

Its been obvious for almost a decade that movie studios use paid for trolls to boost opinion online @ movie based websites & we all know games publishers withhold advertising revenue from websites which do not say nice things about their games so in effect they are bribing the website to only give favourable ratings. The beauty of Steam forums are that as long as you stay within the rules freedom of speech is still permitted!!

[Cottonbud1]

Hey buddy guess what. This IS a CoD like game. Deny it all you want.

Duke 3D if you even played it was nothing like this. It didn't point you in a direction and say "here dummy! Go to the glowing thing!" You had to figure things out yourself.

It did not stay true to DN:3D. We must have played a different game.

This sums it up quite well.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/117/1175194p1.html

"I'm still playing through at this point for review, so maybe Duke Nukem Forever will get better further in. So far, there's little worthy of praise. It's a clumsily put together game that, even when it tries hard to deliver exciting action set pieces like fights against giant bosses, feels dull and derivative. The only impressive part about Duke Nukem Forever is that it exists as a finished game. "

You all can defend this game all you want. It's trash.

You can turn the tips off. Why don't you use your own words to explain your experiences instead of hiding behind one of the worst game reviewers in the industry?

[LedBetter]

You can turn the tips off. Why don't you use your own words to explain your experiences instead of hiding behind one of the worst game reviewers in the industry?

Could you explain to me why he is one of the worst reviews in the industry? If that was Jim Sterling I'd say you make a good point. Did this guy review a game you like and give it a low score? Get over it. And it's not just this guy. Nearly every single review has been a 40% or a 50% so far.

I have already explained in my own words why this game is trash. I'm not going to repeat it.

The only people who are enjoying this are...

1. The "cool" kids who like to pretend they grew up with Duke and how he's a bad ♥♥♥.
2. People who think flinging a piece of turd around and drawing privates on a white board is hilarious.

If you enjoy horrible shooting mechanics with god awful mouse acceleration that you can't turn off (despite it even having a freaking option you can set to 1), horrible voice acting, lame story, and boring levels this game is for you. I have better games to play.

People that really loved Duke 3D know this is nothing like Duke. If you took out the Duke skin and his references it would be generic shooter # 1,345. I'd rather play MW2 and Kane & Lynch than this trash and that is really saying something considering that I despise those games.

Lastly, the age of the macho man, one dimensional, sexist stereotype of Duke is done for. It died in the 90's and it's not coming back. This crap just isn't funny. I don't see how any semi-serious human being can find his one liners even remotely funny.

3D Realms, etc. milked that franchise to death after the success of Duke 3D with so many trash spin offs. This was just the long delayed final nail in the coffin. Good riddance. I hope Gearbox keeps it dead. I played Duke 3D after playing the demo of this trash and it's infinitely better. That first level in Duke 3D is just a pure classic.

And to anyone who comes in here going "You trolls gtfo!" This is a forum to discuss Duke. It doesn't state anywhere that you may not speak negatively about it. If you take issues with it DON'T click the thread! *Gasp* I know right pretty crazy idea.

[Cottonbud1]

Could you explain to me why he is one of the worst reviews in the industry? If that was Jim Sterling I'd say you make a good point. But it's not just this guy. Nearly every single review has been a 40% or a 50% so far.

I have already explained in my own words why this game is trash. I'm not going to repeat it.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/duke-nukem-forever

Yep, nearly every review is a 40% or 50%.

I didn't say HE was a bad reviewer I said IGN isn't a very good reviewing site.

In regards to your views on DNF, your opinion isn't correct and neither is mine. Can you please change your post to say "In my opinion, this game is trash." As, otherwise, it's just a blatant lie.

In my opinion, Duke Nukem Forever is a fun game, albeit linear, that plays smoothly with a few graphical mishaps.

DNF plays nothing like Call of Duty in the sense that it isn't just non-stop action.

Also, wasn't DN3D branched heavily from Doom?

[LedBetter]

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/duke-nukem-forever

Yep, nearly every review is a 40% or 50%.

I didn't say HE was a bad reviewer I said IGN isn't a very good reviewing site.

In regards to your views on DNF, your opinion isn't correct and neither is mine. Can you please change your post to say "In my opinion, this game is trash." As, otherwise, it's just a blatant lie.

In my opinion, Duke Nukem Forever is a fun game, albeit linear, that plays smoothly with a few graphical mishaps.

DNF plays nothing like Call of Duty in the sense that it isn't just non-stop action.

Also, wasn't DN3D branched heavily from Doom?

No I'm not going to change it because it's just a fact. Anyone who isn't gushing at and jerking off to the fact that it's "nostalgia" can see this game for what it is. Trash.

Here are more reviews. More came in since the last time I looked at it.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/duke-nukem-forever/critic-reviews

And honestly...any PC reviewer who gives the PC version such a score as a 80%...something is seriously up with them.

Not only does it perform like trash for such an old game (Hell Witcher 2 runs better on my system thank this junk) but the aiming is completely off. The games mouse acceleration is just ridiculous. It's impossible to aim.

Note to any developer making PC games. We aren't in the 90's. People have decent mice these days. FFS stop adding mouse acceleration or let us turn it off!

PS: As to your comment on IGN isn't a good reviewing site. They are not a hive mind. They have various editors all with different tastes. And in this day and age many of these guys free lance. So for all you know some of your favorite editors from site X and Y also write for IGN.

Look I knew this game wasn't going to match the hype. Obviously it wasn't. But I didn't expect it to be THIS bad. But after being in development for over a decade what else do you expect. For a game to make me wish for a game like Kane & Lynch...just wow.

[Cottonbud1]

No I'm not going to change it because it's just a fact. Anyone who isn't gushing at and jerking off to the fact that it's "nostalgia" can see this game for what it is. Trash.

Here are more reviews. More came in since the last time I looked at it.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/duke-nukem-forever/critic-reviews

And honestly...any PC reviewer who gives the PC version such a score as a 80%...something is seriously up with them.

Not only does it perform like trash for such an old game (Hell Witcher 2 runs better on my system thank this junk) but the aiming is completely off. The games mouse acceleration is just ridiculous. It's impossible to aim.

Note to any developer making PC games. We aren't in the 90's. People have decent mice these days. FFS stop adding mouse acceleration or let us turn it off!

PS: As to your comment on IGN isn't a good reviewing site. They are not a hive mind. They have various editors all with different tastes. And in this day and age many of these guys free lance. So for all you know some of your favorite editors from site X and Y also write for IGN.

I don't play XBOX so don't give me the XBOX reviews, thank you very much.

Why are you here on the forums if all you have to say is negative? You use a game from 1996 as your prime example of a good game but then, at the same time, after wishing the developer had made more of a 1996 type game, say "We aren't in the 90's. People have decent mice these days".

A bit redundant to state that games in the 90's were better and then to go and insinuate gaming is better now, don't you think?

Why are you so naive? Why don't you realise that, just because the game isn't a DN3D clone, it can still be enjoyable and fun? Just because the game isn't perfect for you doesn't mean it isn't someone else's dream game.

Just for reference, I have barely played DN3D and I DO NOT believe that DNF is a bad game.

[grimm_reapr]

I don't play XBOX so don't give me the XBOX reviews, thank you very much.

Why are you here on the forums if all you have to say is negative? You use a game from 1996 as your prime example of a good game but then, at the same time, after wishing the developer had made more of a 1996 type game, say "We aren't in the 90's. People have decent mice these days".

A bit redundant to state that games in the 90's were better and then to go and insinuate gaming is better now, don't you think?

Why are you so naive? Why don't you realise that, just because the game isn't a DN3D clone, it can still be enjoyable and fun? Just because the game isn't perfect for you doesn't mean it isn't someone else's dream game.

Just for reference, I have barely played DN3D and I DO NOT believe that DNF is a bad game.

+1 to this

I think, Really, The bottom line is that the narrow-minded individuals of the world, See this as a bad game, For whatever reason or reasons that they may spout, And then use poor, Unstructured or completely arbitrary logic or reasoning to attempt to back up their OPINION, And further overinflate their OPINION, By citing reviews, Arbitrarily obtained from a random site or random sites.

The more open-minded individuals of the world, Who don't see this as a bad game, Nor do they see it as a GOTY contender, But see it at any point in-between, Will state their OPINION, Give an EXPLANATION as to why and how they formulated their OPINION, And leave it at that. No benahl attempts at over-inflating their OPINION's importance by adding flawed, OPINIONATED logic, Or citing arbitrary reviews, For platforms that don't even remotely apply to the circumstances surrounding their post.

At the end of the day, The fan-boys and haters will say and do what they have to, In an attempt to get others to see that they are right and everyone else is wrong, And everyone else will say their piece and leave it be, Fully aware of the fact that anything they say, Is an OPINION, And that there will always be individuals who will take offence at the slightest thing: The letter 'A' or the number '1' for example. They are USUALLY unconcerned with the ramblings of others.

Personally, I like this game. Don't get me wrong. I don't love it, I don't hate it, I by no means think that this game will come even close to winning anything other than the 'Wooden Spoon' award. Nonetheless, I find myself enjoying my time, Playing this, When compared to say, Playing Black Ops, Where I find myself consistently annoyed and mildly aggravated and frustrated.

[maul_inc01]

+1 to this

I think, Really, The bottom line is that the narrow-minded individuals of the world, See this as a bad game, For whatever reason or reasons that they may spout, And then use poor, Unstructured or completely arbitrary logic or reasoning to attempt to back up their OPINION, And further overinflate their OPINION, By citing reviews, Arbitrarily obtained from a random site or random sites.

The more open-minded individuals of the world, Who don't see this as a bad game, Nor do they see it as a GOTY contender, But see it at any point in-between, Will state their OPINION, Give an EXPLANATION as to why and how they formulated their OPINION, And leave it at that. No benahl attempts at over-inflating their OPINION's importance by adding flawed, OPINIONATED logic, Or citing arbitrary reviews, For platforms that don't even remotely apply to the circumstances surrounding their post.

At the end of the day, The fan-boys and haters will say and do what they have to, In an attempt to get others to see that they are right and everyone else is wrong, And everyone else will say their piece and leave it be, Fully aware of the fact that anything they say, Is an OPINION, And that there will always be individuals who will take offence at the slightest thing: The letter 'A' or the number '1' for example. They are USUALLY unconcerned with the ramblings of others.

Personally, I like this game. Don't get me wrong. I don't love it, I don't hate it, I by no means think that this game will come even close to winning anything other than the 'Wooden Spoon' award. Nonetheless, I find myself enjoying my time, Playing this, When compared to say, Playing Black Ops, Where I find myself consistently annoyed and mildly aggravated and frustrated.

Well said, too many acts like they are FOX NEWS (The news channel that thinks it has a patent on the truth)...

Have a +rep on me! :)

[Godwhacker]

I thought the game really got pretty good after you leave Vegas. It goes all Half-Life for a bit, and you don't have to worry about shooting women. The trouble is, you have to wade through a load of ♥♥♥♥ to get to that point and you only get about four hours of it before a completely underwhelming ending. The final boss is recycled from earlier.

Yes, that's right- the big, climactic battle is something that you did earlier. If I hadn't bought it on Steam I'd be sending it back.

I don't really care about the graphics. I don't mind things not being cutting edge. What I do mind is when they're totally devoid of character- everything in the game is hopelessly generic, with few exceptions. The game is only half the length of what we were promised, the guns are pathetic, the multiplayer is a mess, you can't save, the level design is often abysmal, there are only six standard enemies, you have to fight two of the bosses *twice*, and it just isn't funny.

I suppose the last point is the worst- Duke is billed as having a great sense of humour but there wasn't anything that made me more than smile. Duke having a go at Valve and Halo was sort of amusing, but when he's in a game that is totally beholden to both and *still* manages to be a dog's breakfast, it just backfires.

[Godwhacker]

I don't play XBOX so don't give me the XBOX reviews, thank you very much.

Why are you here on the forums if all you have to say is negative? You use a game from 1996 as your prime example of a good game but then, at the same time, after wishing the developer had made more of a 1996 type game, say "We aren't in the 90's. People have decent mice these days".

A bit redundant to state that games in the 90's were better and then to go and insinuate gaming is better now, don't you think?

Why are you so naive? Why don't you realise that, just because the game isn't a DN3D clone, it can still be enjoyable and fun? Just because the game isn't perfect for you doesn't mean it isn't someone else's dream game.

Just for reference, I have barely played DN3D and I DO NOT believe that DNF is a bad game.

It's not a bad game. It's totally mediocre. Gearbox have managed to make it so it doesn't completely suck- I just wonder what state it was in when Gearbox took over.

I seriously doubt this is a dream game for anyone.

[Carmanen]

Alienware gamer is making me laugh:D But seriously, i have played this game for about 2+ hours now and i'm loving every aspect of it! I'm 29 years old and i appreciate old scholl gameplay, puzzles and fun factor. To me the most important question in games are that are they fun to play? For DNF, the answer is obvious: HELL YEAH! For example, CoD games are boring as hell and their fun factor is zero! And i have played a couple of hours all the recent CoD games, MW1&MW2&Black Ops but they are not just my thing. What i really like in DNF is the perfect combination of adrenaline fuelled (old school) gameplay, great humour, puzzles and the "in your face" attitude! And the graphics are not bad either (maybe because i'm not a graphics ♥♥♥♥♥). So my final message is that if you are not a fan of old school games, quit whining and look elsewhere because there's nothing to see here. But we who love old school games and who has the right attitude for this game, let us celebrate Duke's comeback and have a blast playing this great game:) Carmanen out.

[Sliph]

Played the demo, did not like, very disappointed. Don't need to play anymore to realize it's not worth my money. Graphics are not as bad as people say though. Played with everything maxed and looks just fine but unfortunately it's really just not fun to play imo. I expect more in my old age I guess. Also probably helps that i'm really not a duke nukem fanboi so im not viewing the game with rose tinted glasses.

[F-Minus]

The difference between the Xbox360 version and the PC version is the button promts and the longer load times of the console. Everything else is essentially the same. So take all reviews into consideration.

[MrLogic]

Rather then creating a new thread. This is a horrible game. I didn't even bother completing it, already uninstalled.

If I could get my money back I would. Certainly not worth the 50 euros being charged for it.

[Lulzator]

My only problem was that the moments between after playing the ingame videogame and before you got the chaingun was slow, over than that it had its fair share of challanging bosses and fun gameplay. Complicated puzzles don't belong in a game that's famous for having the most trigger happy character ever created. The graphics aren't that much of a concern for me but I would rather have a game with basic graphics that can run on my PC without hassle rather than some crappy glorified tech demo like Crysis which would struggle to run on my PC and has boring gameplay.

[MotherBakesPies]

My only problem was that the moments between after playing the ingame videogame and before you got the chaingun was slow, over than that it had its fair share of challanging bosses and fun gameplay. Complicated puzzles don't belong in a game that's famous for having the most trigger happy character ever created. The graphics aren't that much of a concern for me but I would rather have a game with basic graphics that can run on my PC without hassle rather than some crappy glorified tech demo like Crysis which would struggle to run on my PC and has boring gameplay.

What puzzle was complicated?

[Bøf]

I played every single Duke game there ever was including the platform games. And this one is right in line with the others.

Overpowered weapons, explosions, profanity, 1-liners and pig cops.
This IS Duke Nukem.

"you can only carry 2 weapons"
WTF? Is that all it takes for some of you to write off this game? Then my friends, the problem lies with you, not the game. If you ever bother to notice, every gun is obtainable in pretty much every level, so you're not cheated. You're only using 1 gun at a time anyway.

"People don't like this game cause it sucks"
Constructive criticism right there...

"this game is nothing like the other Duke games!"
How so? Because you can't carry more than 2 weapons at a time? Gimmi a effin break...

"The game looks like crap graphically!"
Then i suggest you crank up the settings. I'm running this game on absolute maximum settings at 1920x1200 and while the engine itself is a bit outdated (note, its NOT 12 years old, thats a rumor) it doesn't look bad at all.

Some of you people need to lighten the ♥♥♥♥ up. If you expected a "crysis 2 - now with Duke" then you lied to yourself in the first place.

[Verwandlung]

How about:

Horrible gameplay mechanics.
Terrible controls.
Laughable graphics.
Non-existent level-design. (A->B)

[Lulzator]

What puzzle was complicated?
I'm not saying the puzzles are complicated I'm just pointing out how it's wrong to complain about the easy puzzles as they don't belong in a game like Duke Nukem.

[YellowTree]

I played every single Duke game there ever was including the platform games. And this one is right in line with the others.

Overpowered weapons, explosions, profanity, 1-liners and pig cops.
This IS Duke Nukem.

"you can only carry 2 weapons"
WTF? Is that all it takes for some of you to write off this game? Then my friends, the problem lies with you, not the game. If you ever bother to notice, every gun is obtainable in pretty much every level, so you're not cheated. You're only using 1 gun at a time anyway.

"People don't like this game cause it sucks"
Constructive criticism right there...

"this game is nothing like the other Duke games!"
How so? Because you can't carry more than 2 weapons at a time? Gimmi a effin break...

"The game looks like crap graphically!"
Then i suggest you crank up the settings. I'm running this game on absolute maximum settings at 1920x1200 and while the engine itself is a bit outdated (note, its NOT 12 years old, thats a rumor) it doesn't look bad at all.

Some of you people need to lighten the ♥♥♥♥ up. If you expected a "crysis 2 - now with Duke" then you lied to yourself in the first place.

+rep man. Well said.

[MotherBakesPies]

I played every single Duke game there ever was including the platform games. And this one is right in line with the others.

Overpowered weapons, explosions, profanity, 1-liners and pig cops.
This IS Duke Nukem.

"you can only carry 2 weapons"
WTF? Is that all it takes for some of you to write off this game? Then my friends, the problem lies with you, not the game. If you ever bother to notice, every gun is obtainable in pretty much every level, so you're not cheated. You're only using 1 gun at a time anyway.

"People don't like this game cause it sucks"
Constructive criticism right there...

"this game is nothing like the other Duke games!"
How so? Because you can't carry more than 2 weapons at a time? Gimmi a effin break...

"The game looks like crap graphically!"
Then i suggest you crank up the settings. I'm running this game on absolute maximum settings at 1920x1200 and while the engine itself is a bit outdated (note, its NOT 12 years old, thats a rumor) it doesn't look bad at all.

Some of you people need to lighten the ♥♥♥♥ up. If you expected a "crysis 2 - now with Duke" then you lied to yourself in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1jhTGn5aPE

[Bøf]

Horrible gameplay mechanics.
Which gameplay mechanic is so bad?
My Duke character runs and moves just fine. Physics are as they should be.
Weapons switch fast, throwable items fly just fine aswell.
Which mechanic exactly, is so bad?

Terrible controls.
Oh ye, WASD for movement, 1-0 for weaponry/items. Mouse for looking/shooting.
I see it, terrible controls...

Laughable graphics.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198005588345/screenshot/594688201377539008/?tab=public
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198005588345/screenshot/594688201377534393/?tab=public
Is that laughable graphics? It's not state of the art no, but as i said, if you expected that you were lying to yourself all along.

Non-existent level-design. (A->B)
This is the part i can kinda agree with. Everything seems quite liniar. But did you really expect anything else from a FPS? Duke 3d had a few times where you had to backtrack, but all in all that was liniar aswell.

[izihbo]

Horrible gameplay mechanics.
Which gameplay mechanic is so bad?
My Duke character runs and moves just fine. Physics are as they should be.
Weapons switch fast, throwable items fly just fine aswell.
Which mechanic exactly, is so bad?

Terrible controls.
Oh ye, WASD for movement, 1-0 for weaponry/items. Mouse for looking/shooting.
I see it, terrible controls...

Laughable graphics.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198005588345/screenshot/594688201377539008/?tab=public
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198005588345/screenshot/594688201377534393/?tab=public
Is that laughable graphics? It's not state of the art no, but as i said, if you expected that you were lying to yourself all along.

Non-existent level-design. (A->B)
This is the part i can kinda agree with. Everything seems quite liniar. But did you really expect anything else from a FPS? Duke 3d had a few times where you had to backtrack, but all inn all that was liniar aswell.

Agree. +1 interwebz

[Larry1212]

I played the demo and quickly cancelled my pre-order. It's simply sub-par.

[Cottonbud1]

Rather then creating a new thread. This is a horrible game. I didn't even bother completing it, already uninstalled.

If I could get my money back I would. Certainly not worth the 50 euros being charged for it.

Why is that? Reasons please.

For your name you sure as hell ain't acting very logically.

[CosmicD]

I played crysis 2 for 30 minutes, duke nukem forever already double the time and still going. GUess what I find more fun ? Nowadays it's more about what I would call a sterile pseudorealistic movement with way too much options and10 more stealth and attack modes which are a headache instead of fun.

Just give me mario , duke and serious sam any day. Because a game with too much bells & whistles which sells itself to be "fun" because you can configure your suit in 10 different ways just distracts from the gameplay rather than adds to it.

And if I sound like grumpy old donkey kong from the beginning of dk country ? that would actually be a compliment :P

[izihbo]

I played crysis 2 for 30 minutes, duke nukem forever already double the time and still going. GUess what I find more fun ? Nowadays it's more about what I would call a sterile pseudorealistic movement with way too much options and10 more stealth and attack modes which are a headache instead of fun.

Just give me mario , duke and serious sam any day. Because a game with too much bells & whistles which sells itself to be "fun" because you can configure your suit in 10 different ways just distracts from the gameplay rather than adds to it.

And if I sound like grumpy old donkey kong from the beginning of dk country ? that would actually be a compliment :P

Same here, I have yet to finish cryfail 2... It's seriously boring... and when you're trying to clear an area of enemies - more just keep coming back - forever. Duke Nukem Forever (get it?) is way more fun - I don't care how linear it is and how childish the humor might be, it still gives me a few laughs and epic moments.

[MotherBakesPies]

It's seriously boring... and when you're trying to clear an area of enemies - more just keep coming back - forever.

Hey I remember that part in Duke Nukem Forever!

[RogMcDog]

Like wise I thought Crysis 2 was boring/ It was silky smooth and looked beautiful but was so boring as to be barely playable. I gave up after about 1 hour. That doesn't help DNF though. Great ideas but the game is clunky and looks very (VERY) unfinished. The interactivity is utterly pointless and the game engine is hideous. Really hideous.

The animations are bad - where do you begin? Being mean to this game feels like bashing an aged cripple - I feel awful about it. Bad, bad game. Should be about $10 sold as a curiosity to Duke fans.

[Bøf]

I'm seriously thinking some of you are playing a different Duke than i am.
I'm not seing clunky animations or unfinished areas.

I can see the engine being a bit outdated which ofcourse leaves it's print on the finer eye candy. But it's definately not clunky, unfinished, hideous as these forums imply.

[self_slaughter]

Man I don't see why all the hate about Duke Nukem... I must be one of the few gamers that actually enjoy this for what it is. A fun humorous game that unfortunately just took too damn long to come out.

I've almost finished it for the 2nd time though this time on insane and clinging to the golden pistol and the only thing I really don't like about it is the depth of field implementation. Disable post processing effects and the game looks pretty damn good considering its age.

That and the "press spacebar repeatedly" kinda annoys me but damn, it's only once in a while and nothing to get your panties in a knot over...

I guess haters gunna hate and most of em probably haven't even played the full version through to know what they are hating on.

Good on randy for actually allowing this game to come out finally, It's been a long time coming!

[LiqMat]

I'm with you guys. It's a good game.:)

I'm seriously thinking some of you are playing a different Duke than i am.
I'm not seing clunky animations or unfinished areas.

I can see the engine being a bit outdated which ofcourse leaves it's print on the finer eye candy. But it's definately not clunky, unfinished, hideous as these forums imply.


Man I don't see why all the hate about Duke Nukem... I must be one of the few gamers that actually enjoy this for what it is. A fun humorous game that unfortunately just took too damn long to come out.

I've almost finished it for the 2nd time though this time on insane and clinging to the golden pistol and the only thing I really don't like about it is the depth of field implementation. Disable post processing effects and the game looks pretty damn good considering its age.

That and the "press spacebar repeatedly" kinda annoys me but damn, it's only once in a while and nothing to get your panties in a knot over...

I guess haters gunna hate and most of em probably haven't even played the full version through to know what they are hating on.

Good on randy for actually allowing this game to come out finally, It's been a long time coming!

[kreed_uk]

This seems to be a really nice thread to post in if you want to do some rep fishing.

[alcapwnlol]

If you want a non-linear game, crysis like graphics and gameplay go and play something else. This is not game for you.

QFT

p.s. graphics do matter.

[MotherBakesPies]

I guess haters gunna hate and most of em probably haven't even played the full version through to know what they are hating on.


Did you know that the boss you kill in the intro is also the last boss of the game? In old duke you rippe a boss' head off and shat down his neck. Now you piss in the boss' eye. How original and creative.

[d3vilsadvocate]

With so many people defending the game vigorously I'm not surprised that the quality of games is in a downward spiral these days...

[Phreeflo]

With so many people defending the game vigorously I'm not surprised that the quality of games is in a downward spiral these days...

QFT.

People will lap anything up if it's been hyped enough. Most AAA games have more people and money working on the marketing than the actual content.

[LauZaIM]

If this is what people call entertaining FPS, then I might have to give up on this genre because it went to pot. This game offers nothing but new textures and models to look at. Its a sign of laziness and un-originality when every damn FPS I play feels exactly the same and features the same predictable cutscenes and scripting, not to mention this game is horribly linear. Thank god for Bulletstorm, because this game is a disgrace to Duke Nukem. Two weapons at a time? Regenerating Health? Tons of stupid cutscenes, turret sections, and gimmicking puzzles that are repeated over and over? Come on, this isn't a quality game, its a nostalgia demo without the old-school gameplay. (And gameplay is what actually matters.) I'm not fooled by marketing by using brand names, I want games that are actually original and offer something thats new and exciting.

[marekfreak1]

I'm seriously thinking some of you are playing a different Duke than i am.
I'm not seing clunky animations or unfinished areas.

I can see the engine being a bit outdated which ofcourse leaves it's print on the finer eye candy. But it's definately not clunky, unfinished, hideous as these forums imply.

GD marketing tool. What do they call these 3rd party losers who register accounts on forums and troll on behalf of studios and marketing pr companies?

[LedBetter]

I don't play XBOX so don't give me the XBOX reviews, thank you very much.

Why are you here on the forums if all you have to say is negative? You use a game from 1996 as your prime example of a good game but then, at the same time, after wishing the developer had made more of a 1996 type game, say "We aren't in the 90's. People have decent mice these days".

A bit redundant to state that games in the 90's were better and then to go and insinuate gaming is better now, don't you think?

Why are you so naive? Why don't you realise that, just because the game isn't a DN3D clone, it can still be enjoyable and fun? Just because the game isn't perfect for you doesn't mean it isn't someone else's dream game.

Just for reference, I have barely played DN3D and I DO NOT believe that DNF is a bad game.

Wow, you are the naive one.

I'm talking about basic hardware functionality when I say we aren't in the 90's. As in mouse smoothing might have been a viable option back in the day but to have it in a game today is downright stupid. It makes the mouse pointer floaty and inaccurate.

In terms of gameplay honestly if it was actually a good game I wouldn't care if it doesn't play like Duke. The issue is the game doesn't know what the hell it wants to be. It's a mix between old school and new. A very terrible mix. The game is obviously confused and doesn't know what it is.

Second of all if you seriously think the PC section in metacritic is different to the 360 and PS3 section once again you are the naive one. They are the SAME reviews. Go look at reviews for Modern Warfare on 360 and PC as an example. They are mostly the same exact reviews from the same sites with the same writers. The only difference is in the X-Box section you get a couple X-Box mag reviews and in the PC section you get a couple PC mag reviews. Just wait a few days and all the reviews will be mixed together in all three sections minus the three or so platform specific ones.

Hell this game is worse on PC due to the horrible performance and mouse acceleration. It's a port through and through.

Again just incase you didn't understand.

My gripe with it "not being in the 90's" is a general statement to ALL games that insist on using mouse acceleration. Talk to any PC gamer who likes shooters and they'll tell you the same thing. It's stupid. Incredibly stupid. It needs the option to have it off otherwise a freaking game pad is more accurate.

Lastly I am on these forums because *gasp* it shares my opinion on Duke Nukem in this very forum! Or is it that when you don't like a game you are a troll? The only trolls here are those accusing others of trolling for posting in a negative thread about the game.

Well said, too many acts like they are FOX NEWS (The news channel that thinks it has a patent on the truth)...

Have a +rep on me! :)

If you are seriously comparing views on this game being crap to Fox News outright lying and brainwashing of people to think what's actually bad for them is good for them that is just sad.

Just because you have two sides doesn't mean you have two valid arguments. If you want to use a political example. Just because someone out their is defending the right to people having health care to another saying it's not a right but should be earned you don't have two valid arguments. You have one person who is a sane, rational human being and the other who is either greedy and evil or brainwashed and stupid.

In this case. You have one side who likes mediocre, half a$$ed shooters that are made to make a quick buck off of you and another side who doesn't put up with bad games. The fact that this 12 year old junk is priced at 50-60 dollars is ridiculous. They didn't want to throw all that money down the drain so they gave it to Gearbox to finish up and sell to recoup whatever they can.

Games need to seriously have a quality barometer when they price these things. Games like Duke Nukem and Rogue Warrior shouldn't be priced the same as good games. These are half a$$ed games made to rip people off.

Check my post history. This is the ONLY game that I am here talking negatively about in a thread dedicated to it. Because it's that bad. So people wouldn't waste $50 away buying trash like this when you have far better games out. The only ones defending it are those who don't want to feel like they wasted money, those that think it's cool to like something that's getting a bad rep, or those who have some sort of nostalgia to this one dimensional, terribly voice acted character.

[izihbo]

Horrible performance?

Ooooh I get it... You're using a 12 year old computer.

[LedBetter]

Horrible performance?

Ooooh I get it... You're using a 12 year old computer.

Oh you...

I've got a second generation i7, 8 gigs DDR3 ram, GTX 570, and the game itself was on a SSD.

You people with the "LOLZ it's your computer!!!" come backs are downright annoying. Go look at other people with issues. You even have a editor from Rock Paper Shotgun getting slow downs with two GTX 580's. So no I'm not on my grandmothers 486.

Witcher 2 runs better than this game. And that game actually looks good. I don't know if this is an Nvidia problem or what. But a game that looks worse than some 2005 games like Half Life 2 shouldn't be this big of a hog. An Nvidia 8800 should be able to max this out even.

[izihbo]

Oh you...

I've got a second generation i7, 8 gigs DDR3 ram, GTX 570, and the game itself was on a SSD.

You people with the "LOLZ it's your computer!!!" come backs are downright annoying. Go look at other people with issues. You even have a editor from Rock Paper Shotgun getting slow downs with two GTX 580's. So no I'm not on my grandmothers 486.

Witcher 2 runs better than this game. And that game actually looks good.

Then it's probably an nVidia issue or something. Or nVidia sli-issue. I'm on an ATI HD5970 and the framerates are ranging from 70-125'ish. Intel Q9550 2.85GHz @ 3.75GHz. 8gb ddr2 kingston hyperx memory.

[MADDOGGE]

would you like some cheese with your whine?It's amazing how insecure people like yourself are when others disagree with your viewpoint. You can't accept that someone doesn't like your toy and lash out.

[LedBetter]

Then it's probably an nVidia issue or something. Or nVidia sli-issue. I'm on an ATI HD5970 and the framerates are ranging from 70-125'ish. Intel Q9550 2.85GHz @ 3.75GHz. 8gb ddr2 kingston hyperx memory.

Right I edited my post saying maybe it's an Nvidia issue. It shouldn't be an SLI issue because I've only got one GTX 570 running.

[izihbo]

It's amazing how insecure people like yourself are when others disagree with your viewpoint. You can't accept that someone doesn't like your toy and lash out.

The other problem is that there's alot of people who talk trash about something they have no clue about - or they've just seen on youtube or just reading the crap on forums and thus not really having their own opinions - they're just going with the flow.

(The wrong flow if you ask me, but hey, thats just me, I love DNF!)

[ElfShotTheFood]

Does anyone else find it ironic that someone named Alienware Gamer is telling people to not waste their money?

[YellowTree]

The other problem is that there's alot of people who talk trash about something they have no clue about - or they've just seen on youtube or just reading the crap on forums and thus not really having their own opinions - they're just going with the flow.

(The wrong flow if you ask me, but hey, thats just me, I love DNF!)

Exactly, man. +rep

[anss123]

Oh you...

I've got a second generation i7, 8 gigs DDR3 ram, GTX 570, and the game itself was on a SSD.
I had horrible performance too. Someone posted that you need to disable vsych, and that seems to have fixed it for me.

[Bøf]

i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40ghz.
8 gigs ram.
Nvidia Geforce 570 GTX

Running everything on max without any problems whatsoever. so it's definately not an Nvidia problem nor is it an i7-problem.