Crysis 2 taken off Steam....

[sascha23]

I was just about to go and buy it and now it looks like it's gone.

I'm starting to feel that EA is going to pull every new release off Steam to sell on their crappy service.

This is going to be a big financial goof for them.

Guess I won't be playing Crysis 2 unless it's back on Steam some day.

Sigh.

[mussard]

I am actually not suprised by this lol

:(

[epsylon_Z1]

This is going to be a big financial goof for them.

Wow . They just lost a potential customer . :rolleyes:

[sascha23]

I wonder what happens to the existing Steam owners out there in terms of getting updates for the game. Ironically, Dragon Age 2 is still on Steam. Guess EA knows no one wants to buy that one at full price anywhere. ;)

Either way, this is not a smart move by EA.

[ibjanhenrik]

Not looking good for my Mass Effect collection. :(

[sascha23]

Not looking good for my Mass Effect collection. :(

I'm thinking by March of 2012, EA will either realize how bad of a move it is to lose a huge chunk of PC gamers that actively use Steam and move their new titles back to the service--or they'll strike it rich and Origin will be a big success. I highly doubt the latter since the service would only handle their stuff. Not a big selling point for consumers--only for EA's bottom line.

[bluz74]

Wow. I was thinking about getting that on the next sale. Oh well. Just saved me some money!

[chopstix]

Or maybe there was something else that has gone wrong, and it has been pulled temporarily? No need for wild speculation just yet. It could be anything. A glitch, an agreement issue, or any number of things.

It is still available on other stores, so I doubt this is being pulled to become an "exclusive" to Origin.

[Tom Krasovac]

That is some grade A, 100%, Bona Fide HORSE PUCKEY. Yes i said horse, puckey, lol. I have it already, but to pull a game like that is crazy. That's probably the highest profile game i've seen get pulled from Steam. Ah well, EA will NOT get my money. If they decide to never release Alice, or ME 3 on Steam, then they are going to lose ALOT of sales in the hopes we'll try Origin.

[sascha23]

It could be anything. A glitch, an agreement issue, or any number of things/

Yes, it's a financial "glitch" it seems. :cool:

Also, services like D2D are a small portion of dd sales. Steam is the only company that is actually a huge player in the field and I think this is why EA is specifically calling out Steam for this. They know who they're trying to take customers away from when it comes to selling their own titles.

I have such a large queue to play, that I can wait this out. Also, ME3 is my next new EA purchase and I think this might be resolved by that point. ;)

[MADDOGGE]

Wow they really did remove that turkey,err I mean that quality game.:rolleyes::rolleyes: Can we do the same thing for DNF?:p


If you bought your games on Steam they aren't going anywhere even if nobody new can buy them on Steam anymore.


Considering I spent 1.5 hours on their live support this morning with no resolution on their part to a problem I had; they have a loooooong way to go before they can depend on Origin completely for sales.

[nightside187]

It started ...:eek:

[Mr_Sam_]

what tha???

[Chapa9dj]

Too bad for them.
The EA store is completely messed up, the website load slow as hell and it redirects me to a wrong region, of course the games have incorrect price tag and they try to charge in Euros.

I can't imagine what bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ignorant handicapped monkeys are working there.

[bluz74]

Maybe it got moved to the free games list accidently.

*checks furiously*

[Harelgur760]

I was just about to go and buy it and now it looks like it's gone.

I'm starting to feel that EA is going to pull every new release off Steam to sell on their crappy service.

This is going to be a big financial goof for them.

Guess I won't be playing Crysis 2 unless it's back on Steam some day.

Sigh.

You can still play it without using origin

[Zamav]

Couldn't care less to be honest. Especially after the Dragon Age 2 fiasco. There was only 1 developer I cared and they successfully cannibalized it.

They can all burn for all I care :p

Edit: Yes, that includes Battlefield 3.

[Mr_Sam_]

so i asked my friend about it and he said he could start it but cant play because there is only blackscreen for him
i dont know if its only for him (ofc steam version)

[epsylon_Z1]

the website load slow as hell and it redirects me to a wrong region, of course the games have incorrect price tag and they try to charge in Euros.I always have the same problems with the Steam store . :p

[Evil_Warhead]

Oh sure, if they want to put BF3 in their store instead of into steam I will also pass on it..
Unbelieveable what's going on with those money hungry *******

[nightside187]

Do that mean no alice bf 3 mass effect 3 and all that ?

[Chapa9dj]

I always have the same problems with the Steam store . :p
But you live in Europe, i don't.

[epsylon_Z1]

But you live in Europe, i don't.But we don't use € .

[MrXGamer]

You people are jumping to conclusions so quick. If EA wanted to remove games, they could have removed their entire library off Steam. That would have gained them attention. Hell, even Crysis 1 and Warhead are still there. That means it's probably just a technical issue or Steam ran out of keys. Yes, Crysis 2 uses keys.

[chopstix]

You people are jumping to conclusions so quick. If EA wanted to remove games, they could have removed their entire library off Steam. That would have gained them attention. Hell, even Crysis 1 and Warhead are still there. That means it's probably just a technical issue or Steam ran out of keys. Yes, Crysis 2 uses keys.

Shhh, it is more cool to hate the big bad evil corporations instead of being logical about the situation.

:rolleyes:

[sascha23]

You can still play it without using origin

In order to buy the game, I need to either use Origin (their name for the EA store, as well as the EA store app) or D2D. Either way, I will need to make an account and put my information on another service. Not interested in doing that. I suppose if this is not resolved by next year, I will pick up ME3 on Amazon and just Add to Steam manually.

The benefits of Steam are a big perk for me (having my titles all associated to one account, Steam cloud, Steam achievements, auto-updates, etc.)

Having to download more bloatware and put my info out on an unproven service for just one publisher's stuff? No thanks.

[sascha23]

Hell, even Crysis 1 and Warhead are still there. That means it's probably just a technical issue or Steam ran out of keys. Yes, Crysis 2 uses keys.

Anything is a possibility, but six hours in and the title has been missing from Steam with no resolution. A big seller doesn't often disappear from a storefront unless the publisher requested.

We'll find out soon enough, but I think EA is only looking at new or upcoming titles for this type of thing. I don't think they will pull older titles that came out prior to Crysis 2.

[epsylon_Z1]

Stop whining and read MrXGamer's & chopstix's posts .

[nightside187]

Its still weird that they remove there top game the very same day Alice return released ...

[Dedlok]

You people are jumping to conclusions so quick. If EA wanted to remove games, they could have removed their entire library off Steam. That would have gained them attention. Hell, even Crysis 1 and Warhead are still there. That means it's probably just a technical issue or Steam ran out of keys. Yes, Crysis 2 uses keys.

This (http://www.ea.com/crysis-2/1/buynow) makes me think it may not be a Keys issue.

[TheInsaneDump]

In other news, Bulletstorm is now priced at $30. When did that happen?

[MADDOGGE]

Maybe they pulled it to replace it with a REAL PC version of the game?:cool:

I was looking forward to getting it when it dropped to <$5.


It may be some glitch or it may actually have been pulled. If it's not back in a week I'd say it's gone.

[sascha23]

Stop whining and read MrXGamer's & chopstix's posts .

Actually, another clue leading to this potential "accident": Crysis Day on the EA sales week did not include Crysis 2. Can't really be a Crysis Day when the game of the hour is missing in action, can it?

I'm just sayin'... ;)

[sascha23]

In other news, Bulletstorm is now priced at $30. When did that happen?

I noticed this last week. Once this baby hits $15, I'll jump in.

[MADDOGGE]

Actually, another clue leading to this potential "accident": Crysis Day on the EA sales week did not include Crysis 2. Can't really be a Crysis Day when the game of the hour is missing in action, can it?

I'm just sayin'... ;)Hummm a mystery. "Come, Watson, come! The game is afoot. Not a word! Into your clothes and come!"

[IOUT]

:eek:I am freaking out right now. If EA does this I will be pissed. It doesnt make any sense unless they want to split the PC community, get hacked, and lose money all in one week. :mad:

Speaking of which, why the hell would I want to add my credit card information to another company especially with all this hacking going on. WTF!

If we are all over speculating, fine I rather over speculate than turn out right to be honest.

[bluz74]

Oh, it's probably just a technical glitch.

[Chapa9dj]

You people are jumping to conclusions so quick. If EA wanted to remove games, they could have removed their entire library off Steam. That would have gained them attention. Hell, even Crysis 1 and Warhead are still there. That means it's probably just a technical issue or Steam ran out of keys. Yes, Crysis 2 uses keys.

Not sure if they ran out of keys. The game is still available on D2D.
http://www.direct2drive.com/10262/product/Buy-Crysis-2-Download
How stupid of EA trying to pull this crap, at the end of the day they are the ones losing money.

[sascha23]

How stupid of EA trying to pull this crap, at the end of the day they are the ones losing money.

This. Not many people use D2D and I think EA is just hurting consumers by trying to funnel business their own way from the biggest dd platform out there. It's one thing to keep exclusive DLC content on your service, but to take away potential sales from yourself and the slew of Steam users? Asinine.

I'm going to keep my distance until later this year and see how this pans out.

[MrXGamer]

Not sure if they ran out of keys. The game is still available on D2D.
http://www.direct2drive.com/10262/product/Buy-Crysis-2-Download
How stupid of EA trying to pull this crap, at the end of the day they are the ones losing money.

Uh, D2D also has Prey available to purchase and it was removed on Steam a LONG time ago due to no keys. The reason being that they sell out at much faster rate on Steam. It isn't the only time a game was pulled out without announcement. I remember Dead Rising 2 was pulled out on its launch because of technical issues, and then it came back a day later.

All this news on EA's Origin program is getting blown out of proportion. EA knows damn well that Steam is the leader in PC games sales. There's pretty much no point in porting your games to PC platform if you're not going to support Steam. Valve owns 70% of the market afterall. They have no choice, but to bow down to the King!

You bet your ♥♥♥ Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3 will make their way to Steam as well.

[sascha23]

You bet your ♥♥♥ Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3 will make their way to Steam as well.

I like your positive thinking and fully agree with you regarding Steam's success. However, I still don't see this being an accident. Perhaps there could be a limited number of keys available from EA to Steam as well.

However, I think removing a game so long after release implies something more. I hope you're correct since I would love to pick up Crysis 2 on a Steam Summer Sale.

[Rebel44]

If EA really pulled it from Steam, I simply wont buy it (I was waiting for Steam sale to buy it).

Their loss - I can just as easily spend money on games from non♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ developers and publishers....

[Gone'Postal]

The EA downloader can kiss my bankrupt....

No deal.

[mriguy]

It started ...:eek:

Yes, EA is playing hardball.

I do not mind competition but really see this publisher isolationism as the first step in how DD services will look within 2 years

1. EA will continue to withdrawal their titles move them to Origin
2. Ubisoft will pull their titles requiring Uplay
3. Activision will pull their titles forcing them to utilize Battlenet & Blizzard Store {edited for clarity}

Further Predictions
Console titles will require activation through their respective services (killing resale) Expect this on BF3.

Big publishers will intimidate indies and smaller publishers in attempts to get exclusives that promote their social features (like Steamworks) and offer significant discounts in fees to entice them.

Impulse (GameStop) will be the first to fall.

Crazy Predictions

I see the possibility that there may be some interesting alliances. Maybe involving Sony and Steam.
The start of temporary licenses (hints already exist in Origin's TOS). You will basically buy a license to a game that will only remain available for 1 year then delete itself.


Even if this does not happen, every new game will incorporate a online activation as DRM, requiring a user to have multiple accounts. So even if you get an EA game on Steam you will still have to use Origin to activate it and buy expansions/DLC.

FYI, it is rumored that Windows 8 will have GFWL incorporated within the OS.

[sascha23]

3. Activision will pull their titles requiring Battlenet

I believe that there are no Battle.net titles on Steam from Blizzard/Activision. I could be wrong though, in which case color me happy.

[DarkLite123]

The EA downloader can kiss my bankrupt....

No deal.

EA will be the only bankrupt ones if they force people to use Origin :p

[Gray-Sylar]

If it means no ME3 for Steam, Im gonna be really dissapointed -won't be able to complete my ME collection.

[IOUT]

Last time I checked, they announced that they ran out of keys for Prey...

[Demon Wraith]

This is surprising. I expect those who already purchased will still be able to download and get updates. But I'm going to register my key on Origin just to be safe.

[LittleBadWolf]

Most probably not a glitch as Steam has been taken off of EA's Crysis 2 page as a purchase option. Big mistake imo

[flava_clown]

Most probably not a glitch as Steam has been taken off of EA's Crysis 2 page as a purchase option. Big mistake imo

it's still there for several countries like sweden, germany or japan...

[MADDOGGE]

This is yet another example for Steams poor communication skills. If the game is gone then they need to say so. If not and it's a glitch they need to say so. This isn't rocket science. I don't think Steam got Gabes Memo last year about how important communication is:rolleyes:. Then again neither did Valve.

[Justin7]

This is yet another example for Steams poor communication skills. If the game is gone then they need to say so. If not and it's a glitch they need to say so. This isn't rocket science. I don't think Steam got Gabes Memo last year about how important communication is:rolleyes:. Then again neither did Valve.

Kinda agree yeah. Valve replies a lot about other things though. So if they don't they either didn't see it yet or are not allowed to say anything maybe.

I'm really starting to fear about Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3 now.

[nightside187]

This is yet another example for Steams poor communication skills. If the game is gone then they need to say so. If not and it's a glitch they need to say so. This isn't rocket science. I don't think Steam got Gabes Memo last year about how important communication is:rolleyes:. Then again neither did Valve.

very true sir .

[Chapa9dj]

You bet your ♥♥♥ Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3 will make their way to Steam as well.

I really hope so. I was looking forward to pre-order both games but if they don't put it on Steam, i'll definitely won't be able to purchase it.

[dementedlullaby]

That's lame I hope this doesn't gimp future updates for Steam users.

[Bobafett2k6]

Well it's still all speculation so the following is based on the rumours of EA pulling top titles from Steam in order to utilize their Origin service.
I am disappointed, Crysis 2 was one of those games that was 50/50 whether i would buy it in a Steam sale, obviously dependant on the price. Now there isn't a chance, sale lost EA.
I dread to think how many sales of BF3 would be lost if it doesn't appear on Steam, i was 100% committed to buying/pre-ordering the instant it hit the Steam store. Now i guess i'll wait and see.

It's disappointing to see another large company acting the @ss but this could backfire big time for them and if it really is true i hope it does backfire and they come back to Valve begging them to put their titles back onto Steam.

[Rancor26]

Well it's still all speculation so the following is based on the rumours of EA pulling top titles from Steam in order to utilize their Origin service.
I am disappointed, Crysis 2 was one of those games that was 50/50 whether i would buy it in a Steam sale, obviously dependant on the price. Now there isn't a chance, sale lost EA.
I dread to think how many sales of BF3 would be lost if it doesn't appear on Steam, i was 100% committed to buying/pre-ordering the instant it hit the Steam store. Now i guess i'll wait and see.

It's disappointing to see another large company acting the @ss but this could backfire big time for them and if it really is true i hope it does backfire and they come back to Valve begging them to put their titles back onto Steam.

I can almost guarantee that if the Crysis 2 just got removed from steam then obviously BF3 is most likely not going to be on steam.

[wylroberts]

The special bundle with all classes unlocked and starting MP at level 5 is a great idea.

Too bad it's $60. :P

If the MP is rock solid with tons of players, I'd buy it for $20 on Steam only - I'm not a big fan of the Crysis SP components.

But to those who think it'll never come back, I'm sure it'll be back up eventually.

[Xenofreak]

Considering the ♥♥♥♥ they pulled with Dragon Age 2 (making Steam users pay for the extra release day DLC) this wouldn't surprise me at all. With Alice not showing up either it just makes it even more likely. EA is probably pulling support for Steam to try to push their Origin store. Don't be surprised if BF3, ME3, and DA3 don't appear on Steam. At least until Origin has (if it does) proven to be a failure.

And to Wyl, don't buy it for the multiplayer. Black Ops would likely be better. Seriously. It's multiplayer is CoD with a few twists of the cyber suit, and auto aim.

[nofing]

it's still there for several countries like sweden, germany or japan...

I'm from Germany and it's not on sale here anymore.
Well, good luck EA... you're going to need it!

[flava_clown]

I'm from Germany and it's not on sale here anymore.
Well, good luck EA... you're going to need it!

if you check here: http://www.ea.com/crysis-2/1/buynow then you'll see that steam is still listed as "retailer" for germany and several other countries...

[Tyraa Rane]

Considering the ♥♥♥♥ they pulled with Dragon Age 2 (making Steam users pay for the extra release day DLC) this wouldn't surprise me at all. With Alice not showing up either it just makes it even more likely. EA is probably pulling support for Steam to try to push their Origin store. Don't be surprised if BF3, ME3, and DA3 don't appear on Steam. At least until Origin has (if it does) proven to be a failure.

Odd that Crysis 2 is still for sale on Direct2Drive, though. And that none of EA's other recent AAA titles have gone walkabout from Steam, either (DA2, Dead Space 2, etc.).

That the new Alice game is MIA from every digital download service besides Origin (:o) is highly suspicious, however. Not to mention that it jaratees me off. If we're lucky all they've done in that case is delayed the game's release onto other DD platforms, in hopes that people who want it "omg now" will be willing to put up with Origin's ♥♥♥♥.

Out of curiosity, those who own Crysis 2 through Steam, can you still download/install the game, assuming you don't have it installed already? (I own a physical copy, otherwise I'd check myself.) It'd be good to know if it's like Prey, where the game isn't for sale but those who own it can still download it, or if it's just gone entirely.

[Ronlaen]

EA can suck it, I'm not going to install multiple clients on my system just to play games. It's either Steam or nothing so if they want to lose sales go ahead. I'll be disappointed but there are other games to play.

[Dragynfyre]

That the new Alice game is MIA from every digital download service besides Origin (:o) is highly suspicious, however. Not to mention that it jaratees me off. If we're lucky all they've done in that case is delayed the game's release onto other DD platforms, in hopes that people who want it "omg now" will be willing to put up with Origin's ♥♥♥♥.


WTF are you talking about? Alice is available everywhere except Steam. EA is targeting Steam specifically.

[GameHog9]

Please keep in mind that corporations base everything they do off of quarterly projections. So either the analyst teams have gotten very optimistic, or theres a technical issue.

I seriously doubt EA is going to push their Origins store this aggressively, Steam represents too much of a profit too ignore. I wouldnt be surprised, however, if retail and digital versions now require a Origin account to activate.

[Zyrin]

Out of curiosity, those who own Crysis 2 through Steam, can you still download/install the game, assuming you don't have it installed already? (I own a physical copy, otherwise I'd check myself.) It'd be good to know if it's like Prey, where the game isn't for sale but those who own it can still download it, or if it's just gone entirely.

It'd be very unlikely for them to completely remove it from the content servers. The real concern should be in future patches, since it'd be really strange for EA to provide Steam with patches for a game they no longer sell.

It's very possible that Crysis 2 owners will be forced onto Origin in order to get the announced Direct X 11 patch. Which is completely bogus.

It's one thing to stop bringing their games onto Steam in order to promote Origin, but it's something else entirely to pull stunts like this.

[Tyraa Rane]

WTF are you talking about? Alice is available everywhere except Steam. EA is targeting Steam specifically.

Sorry. Didn't see a release announcement from D2D, so assumed it wasn't there, either.

[aliriza]

Their loss. I want BF3 and ME3 but I'm not gonna buy anything from Origin.

[DTKT]

There is no way I'm encouraging Origin with EA behind it.

Retail it is for BF3 and ME3.

[cloropad]

Actually I don't blame EA. What does steam take off of every purchase? Like 40%? That's gotta hurt publishers.

[Xenofreak]

Actually I don't blame EA. What does steam take off of every purchase? Like 40%? That's gotta hurt publishers.

Where, exactly, did you pull that number from?

[Bobafett2k6]

Actually I don't blame EA. What does steam take off of every purchase? Like 40%? That's gotta hurt publishers.

40%? Holy crap, surely it isn't that high...

[CommanderZx2]

Actually I don't blame EA. What does steam take off of every purchase? Like 40%? That's gotta hurt publishers.

I believe if you go the retail route, the shops take a much higher percentage than 40%. They take closer probably to 60%, since it is their shop and staff selling it.

[TheInsaneEye]

Looks like I won't be getting any future EA games anymore if they won't be coming to Steam.

[MADDOGGE]

The complete version which includes the original version as well is exclusive to Origin from my understanding. At least for the time being. The one on D2D appears to just be Alice the madness Returns according to the contents.

[nofing]

if you check here: http://www.ea.com/crysis-2/1/buynow then you'll see that steam is still listed as "retailer" for germany and several other countries...

Well, that doesn't change the fact, that it's not available.
The steam link just redirects to the front page of the steam store.
They've probably just forgotten to remove the link.

[neoduke007]

I really want Battlefield 3 but I refuse to buy it anywhere but Steam, so they can take Origin and shove it where the sun doesn't shine!

But indeed I can confirm that Crysis 2 at the moment is not on US Steam, European Steam (checked the Belgian, German, French and UK Steam stores).

I imagine EA wants to move everyone off of Steam onto Origin now... Watch Origin fail already if this is how they have to start it!

[prozac26]

I was hoping for Crysis 2 deal during Summer Sale.

[Metro]

Good thing most EA games are terrible~

[Tyraa Rane]

40%? Holy crap, surely it isn't that high...

In other news, 98% of statistics are made up on the spot.

[amcdermo]

Strange. They added The Sims: Medieval on the 27th May and the latest dlc for The Sims 11 days ago. Other than Crysis 2 are there any other games missing? Why not get rid of all games or at least AAA games like Dragon Age 1/2?:confused:

[MADDOGGE]

Good thing most new EA games are terrible~Fixed that for yah. They do however have a ♥♥♥♥ load of awesome old games they never sell anymore. They won't let anyone else sell them and they won't sell them. They got a damn DD store but won't sell them. Makes no damn sense.:confused::confused:

[Pip]

If BF3 isn't on steam, I probably wont be getting it.

[Metro]

Fixed that for yah. They do however have a ♥♥♥♥ load of awesome old games they never sell anymore. They won't let anyone else sell them and they won't sell them. They got a damn DD store but won't sell them. Makes no damn sense.:confused::confused:

Well I left off the 'new' qualifier because I doubt people still consider most games before 2000ish. Their loss.

[Pheace]

Fixed that for yah. They do however have a ♥♥♥♥ load of awesome old games they never sell anymore. They won't let anyone else sell them and they won't sell them. They got a damn DD store but won't sell them. Makes no damn sense.:confused::confused:

They just signed on with Gog.com, introducing about 25 games over time. (although they've done a few now without expansions sadly)

[Endsieg]

I believe that there are no Battle.net titles on Steam from Blizzard/Activision. I could be wrong though, in which case color me happy.

Sadly no..
If EA really pulled it from Steam, I simply wont buy it (I was waiting for Steam sale to buy it).


Their loss - I can just as easily spend money on games from non♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ developers and publishers....

i feel the same.

[Grub]

Oh, so this is their big plan, is it?

Fine, EA. Here's my big plan.

I'm not buying Crysis 2.
I'm not buying Battlefield 3.
I'm not buying Mass Effect 3.
I'm not even *soul crying* buying Mirror's Edge 2 when that comes out.
I'm not buying anything EA makes until Origins fails and your games return to Steam.

Until they stop acting like fools, I think I can live without playing EA games.

[amcdermo]

They just signed on with Gog.com, introducing about 25 games over time. (although they've done a few now without expansions sadly)

They allow Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri but with the Alien Crossfire expansion pack and despite GoG.com known for including lots of goodies it only comes with the manual. Pretty crappy deal imo when it's sold retail with the expansion cheaper.

I don't know what they're playing at tbh. They could get a higher % from selling on their own site but Steam is more prominent imo so I would have thought despite the lower % they'd make more money as more are sold.

[MADDOGGE]

Well I left off the 'new' qualifier because I doubt people still consider most games before 2000ish. Their loss.Oh I was just messing with you I knew what you meant.

They just signed on with Gog.com, introducing about 25 games over time. (although they've done a few now without expansions sadly)I know and I'm causally optimistic. It doesn't explain why they haven't sold their own games on their on store all these years though. NFS Carbon is the farthest they go back in the NFS catalog. I also wish GoG would stop with the hiding what they got. It's childish. Tell us what you secured and if it's something I want I will wait patiently until they have veted it and made it worthy.

[Countach]

Jeez, guys... just wait until we get a confirmation on what happened here... everybody's already up on arms and nobody said EA will pull out all their games from Steam.

[Grub]

Jeez, guys... just wait until we get a confirmation on what happened here... everybody's already up on arms and nobody said EA will pull out all their games from Steam.

Why not? The game is already gone, and this sounds exactly like a stupid thing EA would do to try and make their Origin service stronger.

Operative word: Try. At least for me.

[Lister]

I already own Crysis 2 from EA as a preorder because it was £10 cheaper than Steam so i couldn't give a toss tbh

[Dedlok]

Why not? The game is already gone, and this sounds exactly like a stupid thing EA would do to try and make their Origin service stronger.

Operative word: Try. At least for me.

Not to mention they removed most instances of steam on EA's crysis 2's Buy Now page. And list only Origin as the only place to buy it in some regions, including the US.

[Justin7]

Oh, so this is their big plan, is it?

Fine, EA. Here's my big plan.

I'm not buying Crysis 2.
I'm not buying Battlefield 3.
I'm not buying Mass Effect 3.
I'm not even *soul crying* buying Mirror's Edge 2 when that comes out.
I'm not buying anything EA makes until Origins fails and your games return to Steam.

Until they stop acting like fools, I think I can live without playing EA games.

Same, I got Crysis 2 gifted and already finished it, and I really liked the multiplayer of it as well, even if it can be a bit dodgy sometimes.

I LOVE Battlefield/Mass Effect/Mirror's Edge. So it will be damn hard. But EA is really screwing us over here.

[Grub]

Same, I got Crysis 2 gifted and already finished it, and I really liked the multiplayer of it as well, even if it can be a bit dodgy sometimes.

I LOVE Battlefield/Mass Effect/Mirror's Edge. So it will be damn hard. But EA is really screwing us over here.

They're totally trying to use us by making a move like this. They know they have some great games coming up, and they figure they can just shaft the user base like usual and have it work out.

Well, as Samuel L Jackson says in Pulp Fiction, "Yes you did, Brett; you tried to ♥♥♥♥ him. And Marcellus Wallace don't like to be ♥♥♥♥ed by anyone except Valve Software."

[Furious Dre]

Things are looking really bad for us Steam users =\ EA Publishes a lot of games, and Microsoft is INTEGRATING Xbox Live into Windows 8 (which is essentially GFWL) so few years down the line GFWL will be on virtually every Windows PC and devs will use it for their game for the same reason Steam/Others use IE (Because it's guaranteed to be on every PC).

Brace yourselves...

[{Yotsuba}]

Hell, even Crysis 1 and Warhead are still there

Just as an FYI, but Crysis 1 and Warhead are published on Steam by the developer directly, not EA despite them being listed as the publisher. If you can still find the original press-release for when they first went on sale here, it's explained in that.

[nightside187]

Whats weird is steam/Valve have maybe the best community legion members they fight all over the place for the developer they love so much ,but steam/valve dont seem to very care most of the time were keep in the dark and have to speculate .

[pmc64]

its funny how they only took it off of steam and you can still buy it every other dd website.

[adz]

wow just wow, i really wanted this..

[dementedlullaby]

If the MP is rock solid with tons of players, I'd buy it for $20 on Steam only - I'm not a big fan of the Crysis SP components.

I like the multiplayer but it's not rock solid, and there isn't a ton of players.

If you don't like Crysis single player elements I would just never buy a Crysis game. Crysis/Wars was terrible. Crysis 2 is an improvement but there is still some problems (hitbox/low population/hackers).

Wish Crysis 2 was Steampowered/Vac secured. Gamespy is so bad.

[trulez]

It's a short term loss, but long term gain, for EA. All you wussies crying foul now will be future Origin customers after you've held your breath long enough.

Bad move from gamers perspective, but great move from EAs perspective.

[IOUT]

I seem to recall that EA said that when Origin came out that people would not have to choose between the two. If this is the case we do not have anything to worry about.


However, Trulez is right about EA, they are making the move on us and they know it will benefit them in the long run.

[SaltyDog]

No Dungeon Siege 3 store page either? Maybe they are mad that Steam put Darkspore on sale at 40% off for only $29.99 and it is on Origin for $49.99...

[adz]

anyone contacted EA or something regarding about this topic?

[nightside187]

No Dungeon Siege 3 store page either? Maybe they are mad that Steam put Darkspore on sale at 40% off for only $29.99 and it is on Origin for $49.99...

DS3 is published by square enix ...

and i still have store page for this game .
http://store.steampowered.com/app/39160/

[Nekomancer]

I don't think so. All deals have to happen with the consent of the developer/publisher, whoever owns the rights to sell the game.

Valve can't act on their own.

I think it's because the game is selling pretty bad, well the Open Beta was a nice opportunity to experience how mediocre the game was, so many didn't bother to buy it, including myself.

[Papytendo]

I think it's because the game is selling pretty bad.I don't think it was that, considering it was in the Top Sellers for a couple of weeks, maybe longer.

[nightside187]

I don't think it was that, considering it was in the Top Sellers for a couple of weeks, maybe longer.

Ds3 is still #7 top selling game on my list.

[adz]

well hopefully we find out why it was removed, but someone should contact EA to see whats going on..

[Papytendo]

Ds3 is still #7 top selling game on my list.I was talking about Crysis 2. :P

[nightside187]

I was talking about Crysis 2. :P

:Dsry

[Dragynfyre]

No Dungeon Siege 3 store page either? Maybe they are mad that Steam put Darkspore on sale at 40% off for only $29.99 and it is on Origin for $49.99...

Steam has to go through the publisher to get sales approved.

[Dragynfyre]

I don't think it was that, considering it was in the Top Sellers for a couple of weeks, maybe longer.

It fell out of the top 10 within days of the release. I don't even think it made it to number 1 at all.

[Tyraa Rane]

It's a short term loss, but long term gain, for EA. All you wussies crying foul now will be future Origin customers after you've held your breath long enough.

No, I won't. I have accounts with Steam, GoG, and Direct2Drive--which is at least one too many if you ask me. (GoG and Steam provide different enough services, but D2D is just extraneous/redundant. Sometimes they have better sales, that's it.) There is no reason, purpose, or value for me to add another DD service onto that list. It's just a hassle.

Besides, what are the chances of EA having sales that rival Steam's? Next to none, if you ask me. Epic lose/lose for me the consumer, and so no sale.

If EA insists on carrying on with Origin and deliberately withholding their products from Steam, well--then I'll buy physical copies of the games I want from them when they're cheap enough. I'm not shelling out $50-$60 for a service I neither need nor want.

[Phantombadger]

If it is going to Origin good luck. means less chance of me buying it. boycotting EA for several reasons btw. This includes a friend of mine got screwed out of his games back when it was EAlink, he had the entire BF2 series and they jacked him around big time. I personally never liked EA link or its next iteration. I also had QA issues with almost every title I bought in 6 months from EA so I decided not to continue endorsing them as a publisher, its shame too cuz I like Bioware, and Crytek.

[GoGoOtaku]

It's a short term loss, but long term gain, for EA. All you wussies crying foul now will be future Origin customers after you've held your breath long enough.

Bad move from gamers perspective, but great move from EAs perspective.With Valve I know that they have a passion for games... with EA I know that they have a passion for money, making stuff cheap in production, selling it expensive and buying great companies to have big titles so they can sell their crap.
If it would be another company OK... but NOT EA!

[Rebel44]

I will simply vote with my wallet - no more money for EA.

[Grub]

It's a short term loss, but long term gain, for EA. All you wussies crying foul now will be future Origin customers after you've held your breath long enough.


Don't bet on it.

I'm not going to juggle two large distribution services, and I really don't appreciate being used by EA like a cheap hooker, being told I should move to Origin for their sake.

EA has never been a loved publisher, has never really done good things for me or its employees, and if how they're treating Valve in this instance is any example of how they work with their business partners, I can only imagine how I would get sucker punched by them as a consumer on their Origin service.

[Ramos29]

Activision are you watching? It's the perfect time to put a MW3 pre-order.

PC gamers buy MW3 instead of BF3 in protest.

[Papytendo]

Activision are you watching? It's the perfect time to put a MW3 pre-order.

PC gamers buy MW3 instead of BF3 in protest.Somewhere, Bobby Kotick is laughing happily.

[FreemanForPrez]

EA has never been a loved publisher, has never really done good things for me or its employees, and if how they're treating Valve in this instance is any example of how they work with their business partners, I can only imagine how I would get sucker punched by them as a consumer on their Origin service.

Then again, does anyone know what EA's agreement with Valve was?
Could be this was all spelled out in advance, all legal-like, no surprises.
If that's the case, people should be equally upset at Valve for not saying anything about it prior to it happening.
Speaking of which, I'm kind of surprised nobody from Valve has responded to any of this, especially to the few posts I've seen regarding any previous Crysis 2 purchase through Steam and what this may do to future patches or downloads.
I would thunk they would want to offer an explanation and reassure their customers.

[Grub]

Activision are you watching? It's the perfect time to put a MW3 pre-order.

PC gamers buy MW3 instead of BF3 in protest.

TBH I think it's bad for both of them. I was already sick and tired of Modern Warfare and Bobby Kotick. BF3 was looking like the almighty savior, but then this and the DLC move come along and the whole genre could be in a desperate heap of trouble.

If it comes down to the whole multiplayer military shooter industry going to hell, I'll stand aside and let it. Maybe this is blasphemy on this site, but they are all games after all. I would rather move on in my real life then worry about supporting two wildly flailing video game companies too power-hungry or too stupid to survive in my pocket of reality.

[Drasill]

Seems like it could potentially be a smart move on EA's part as far as pushing their new service. Since the digital version of SWTOR is exclusive to Origin I'm seriously considering buying it from there. I know if Mass Effect 3 is exclusive to Origin I'll probably buy it there as well. I'm sure there are other people who will buy from them as opposed to getting a retail version or not getting the games at all. Luckily, I already had Crysis 2 on Steam.

[StingingVelvet]

This makes me happy.

Steam is too big and needs to be taken down a peg or two. Also it is always best to buy directly from the developers or publishers, which is Origin for EA games. They get more profit and thus PC versions mean more to them. Lastly Origin is a pretty good service so far, looking good.

Anyone super irate about this needs to stop acting like Steam is the only game in town. The PC is an open platform and this is actually more in-line with that. Steam is (was?) in major risk for becoming the PC platform in and of itself, which is NOT a good thing no matter what people who love Steam might think.

[AngelGraves13]

Well then that's the last EA game I will EVER buy.

No Steam, no sale!

[DTKT]

This makes me happy.

Steam is too big and needs to be taken down a peg or two. Also it is always best to buy directly from the developers or publishers, which is Origin for EA games. They get more profit and thus PC versions mean more to them. Lastly Origin is a pretty good service so far, looking good.

Anyone super irate about this needs to stop acting like Steam is the only game in town. The PC is an open platform and this is actually more in-line with that. Steam is (was?) in major risk for becoming the PC platform in and of itself, which is NOT a good thing no matter what people who love Steam might think.

Right. Because PC gaming has always meant so much to EA. With EA past history with PC games coupled with a service that's barely even worth mentioning, I'll stay away from Origin.

[Grub]

This makes me happy.

Steam is too big and needs to be taken down a peg or two. Also it is always best to buy directly from the developers or publishers, which is Origin for EA games. They get more profit and thus PC versions mean more to them. Lastly Origin is a pretty good service so far, looking good.

Anyone super irate about this needs to stop acting like Steam is the only game in town. The PC is an open platform and this is actually more in-line with that. Steam is (was?) in major risk for becoming the PC platform in and of itself, which is NOT a good thing no matter what people who love Steam might think.

Except I don't like Electronic Arts, and working with their content through the nice people of Valve made it more palatable for me. Now that it's just Electronic Arts pulling all their future big name titles from Valve's service, the thought is...I'll have no security if I purchase a game from Origin.

[StingingVelvet]

Except I don't like Electronic Arts, and working with their content through the nice people of Valve made it more palatable for me. Now that it's just Electronic Arts pulling all their future big name titles from Valve's service, the thought is...I'll have no security if I purchase a game from Origin.

How so? You think Valve is more likely to be around in 20 years than EA? Because I would disagree with that.

And if that is your concern I would say either accept the fact that DRM is meaningless on an open platform like the PC or just boycott all DRM'd games, because that concern is not going away.

[Grub]

How so? You think Valve is more likely to be around in 20 years than EA? Because I would disagree with that.

And if that is your concern I would say either accept the fact that DRM is meaningless on an open platform like the PC or just boycott all DRM'd games, because that concern is not going away.

No, it's not about how long the company lasts, it's about how willing the company is to help me when I get screwed over by some error in their distribution service.

EA doesn't work like Valve. If you buy an EA game in an EA environment, they really have no obligation to help you because in the minds of people who run those companies, I have your money. And they do. They have your money, and they understand that pretty much no one will stand up to them about getting abused as customers.

[Ckrawl]

Why you should never buy from origin. Have fun http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3333/1308102784038.jpg

[Sonikku]

How so? You think Valve is more likely to be around in 20 years than EA? Because I would disagree with that.

And if that is your concern I would say either accept the fact that DRM is meaningless on an open platform like the PC or just boycott all DRM'd games, because that concern is not going away.

You seriously think that a company like Valve - an independent developer with the biggest PC-gaming-download-platform worldwide - will not be around in 20 years anymore and EA with their Origin-crap will? I beg to differ...

To topic: If they pull this off with, say Battlefield 3, they will not get my money. Neither retail, nor Origin. I'll gladly support the boycott-cause until EA face the facts and let Origin's exclusive-crap die. Especially after that EA Week just some weeks ago my guess was "Well, seems like EA finally apprechiate Steam more!" but yeah, seems like they just wanted to make the quick cash before being done with Steam. <_<

[jiggylo]

Yeah it's probably a key issue. That happens. It would be really strange to just take the 1 game off steam.

[WNxFusionGamerX]

Can you still install/uninstall Crysis 2 from your accounts?

Only if EA have REMOVED your right to play it on Steam...THEN you have a valid complaint...

[adz]

Yeah it's probably a key issue. That happens. It would be really strange to just take the 1 game off steam.

so what? they ran out of keys and took off the game?

IT would be nice if we can have a valve/EA employee in this thread telling us why it was removed

[DarkOmegaX]

Thread on NeoGAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=433987

It seems to be official, the Crysis 2 page on EA.com reads: "BUY NOW ONLY ON ORIGIN". I have no problems with this but I bet there will be a lot of whining over here.

[StingingVelvet]

EA doesn't work like Valve. If you buy an EA game in an EA environment, they really have no obligation to help you because in the minds of people who run those companies, I have your money. And they do. They have your money, and they understand that pretty much no one will stand up to them about getting abused as customers.

Actually my experiences with EA support were better than with Steam support.

[sKin1337]

I bought NFS: Shift quite a bit ago on the EA store, and figured I'd give Origin a spin by redownloading and installing Shift through it. Long story short, the damn game crashes everytime it starts up - a problem I've never had with the steam version. I than tried Burnout: Paradise, and for some reason it keeps crashing as well.

And after all this Crysis 2 garbage, all I can say is f*ck off Origin. Uninstalled in record time, I'll probably end up pirating EA games from now on.

[Nekomancer]

Ran out of keys? Did you take a look at the Origin store where it says: "Crysis 2 - ONLY ON ORIGIN"?

[WaRCh1eF]

My only whining about that move is that the only way that we Latin Americans can buy a game on EA is with Euros, so they can forget about us.

[rugalck]

Go thank EA.
It's a crappy game.

At least you won't lose you money on Crysis 2.

[Grub]

I bought NFS: Shift quite a bit ago on the EA store, and figured I'd give Origin a spin by redownloading and installing Shift through it. Long story short, the damn game crashes everytime it starts up - a problem I've never had with the steam version. I than tried Burnout: Paradise, and for some reason it keeps crashing as well.


Yup. Problems that might seem familiar to early adapters of Steam. Only problem is those eventually got fixed (even though it took a few years.) And they're moving all their huge games to a buggy distribution system...If people have anything to say via Twitter when crunch time comes along, this is going to bite them in the ♥♥♥ on about three different fronts.

[cristianesza]

I guess this means no dx11 patch for us existing customers.

Well that makes the decision of skipping future EA titles a lot easier.

[WNxFusionGamerX]

Thread mainly revolves around the UK but it does show a growing concern for digital games:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1920831

[DarkOmegaX]

I guess this means no dx11 patch for us existing customers.

Well that makes the decision of skipping future EA titles a lot easier.
I doubt that Steam will stop receiving patches unless Valve ignores them out of spite. It makes no business sense to piss off old customers like that. If anything you could register your Crysis 2 key on Origin and get the patches there.

[Papytendo]

I guess this means no dx11 patch for us existing customers.

Well that makes the decision of skipping future EA titles a lot easier.Wha? This has pretty much nothing to do with Crytek, either than it is their title being taken off.

[Scared]

Did you take a look at the Origin store where it says: "Crysis 2 - ONLY ON ORIGIN"?

I had a look and couldn't see "Only on Origin" through the Australian Origin portal.

[StingingVelvet]

I had a look and couldn't see "Only on Origin" through the Australian Origin portal.

Actually now that I look at it myself it doesn't say that in the US either. Maybe it did earlier and they changed it? Curious.

[Papytendo]

Actually now that I look at it myself it doesn't say that in the US either. Maybe it did earlier and they changed it? Curious.Nope. (http://www.ea.com/crysis-2/pc-download)

[StingingVelvet]

Nope. (http://www.ea.com/crysis-2/pc-download)

Ah, okay. I am guessing then that part of their site leaked the news a bit early.

[CTRL ALT DEL !]

I'm still only going to buy it when it's on special on Steam.

[adz]

is it on steam still for any other counties?

[Mut]

Ah, strong-arm tactics. That's definitely the way to win the hearts and minds of the people. Good job, EA.

[Papytendo]

I'm still only going to buy it when it's on special on Steam.Good luck with that.

[Grub]

Ah, strong-arm tactics. That's definitely the way to win the hearts and minds of the people. Good job, EA.

Hey, it works sometimes in dictatorships. Sometimes. You know, when people have nowhere else to go.

[bschuler]

I'm still waiting to buy a Chevy when the old Chevy lot that is now a Toyota dealership down the street decides to sell them. I can wait.

[BlackForces]

Because of less sales i think :rolleyes:

[freezer2k2]

Not that big of a loss I think. Thank you for saving me money, EA. Now I'm not even going to buy those few games of yours I liked..

[trek554]

well its still on direct2drive as of right now...

[CTRL ALT DEL !]

Good luck with that. Don't need luck, thats just the way I'll roll.

[bluz74]

What a Crysis!

[CTRL ALT DEL !]

What a Crysis! This really is a crysis too, how ironic.

[DTKT]

Pretty great quote on why Steam is (currently) superior.

Except steam is offering us our pie in a variety of flavors with icecream and whipped cream.

Origin is offering us rubarb and only rubarb, with no change in menu even talked about, it comes on a dirty plate, and we're told if we want to ever eat a rubarb pie we've got to eat it off their filthy plate in their abandoned diner.

[adz]

well its still on direct2drive as of right now...

bah seems steam is the only one who removed it, god damn it...

[CTRL ALT DEL !]

I bet they would have got a crapload of sales if they gave a warning it was going to be removed.

[SmileyBarry]

You know, you're all forgetting one thing. This hurts us, the international customers.

Steam sells to me in USD. Origin insists on selling in Euros. I end up paying at least $10 more for a game. This makes no sense, too, since USD is the dominant international currency here. Steam is always cheaper than retail. Even at the release day prices, even at $60, it's always cheaper. And some-♥♥♥♥ing-how, EA's Euro prices are more expensive than retail here. It's actually more costly to buy a copy directly from EA than it is to buy an imported game.

If EA pull this with Mass Effect 3, I'm going to buy it retail. No way am I going to use a service which will delete your account with your purchases after 24 months, or ask you to "renew" your download service after 6 months from the purchase date.

NO. F***ING. WAY.

[Dreadjaws]

well its still on direct2drive as of right now...

Yes, but it's regionally restricted there, only available in USA and Canada. That's why there's no such a hurry to remove it from there.

Honestly, this is an idiotic move. I haven't purchased this game and now I never will. Not because I'm a Steam Hammer Legion Member, but because I don't like being forced to do my shopping in one place, specially one which has such a terrible disdain for their customers.
You know, you're all forgetting one thing. This hurts us, the international customers.

Steam sells to me in USD. Origin insists on selling in Euros. I end up paying at least $10 more for a game. This makes no sense, too, since USD is the dominant international currency here. Steam is always cheaper than retail. Even at the release day prices, even at $60, it's always cheaper. And some-♥♥♥♥ing-how, EA's Euro prices are more expensive than retail here. It's actually more costly to buy a copy directly from EA than it is to buy an imported game.

If EA pull this with Mass Effect 3, I'm going to buy it retail. No way am I going to use a service which will delete your account with your purchases after 24 months, or ask you to "renew" your download service after 6 months from the purchase date.

NO. F***ING. WAY.
Precisely. Why the Origin store is in Euros for me when I live in South America is unconceivable at best. Can't they figure out that "Euro" is somehow related to "Europe"? I have the pricing problem as well. Steam is always cheaper than retail for me, while EA store/Origin is more expensive.

I have no reason to put up with that. Not to mention the insane restrictions EA has that are probably labeled as "features".

[Gemüsepizza]

That's bad news. Three things:

1. The origin forums are horrible. Full of spam:

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/forums/show/3917.page

I mean... really? Not very professional. :D

2. I can't change the language of my origin games. This is unacceptable.

3. Only 1 year guarantee to be able to download my games? This is unacceptable.

If they want to make a store similiar to steam, then they have to be better than steam. If they try to force people to use their service by removing games from steam and make them exclusively available on origin, this will backfire. People will get upset and they blame EA. One would think that a company as big as EA would know better.

[chopstix]

3. Only 1 year guarantee to be able to download my games? This is unacceptable.

As mentioned in other threads, Valve specifically states Steam offers no guarantee. Any comments on that?

The guarantee is in regards to having to pull games due to licensing issues, which in their FAQs, is stated to not be a common problem.

[LAWLERSKATEZ]

The funniest thing is that EA thinks they can compete with Steam.

[pro-plus]

Seems this might be EA's master plan to slowly remove all their games from steam and make some of them "exclusive" to origin. another bad move by EA. also will people who have crysis 2 on steam be able to download it again or something?

[Ihavenofriends]

The funniest thing is that EA thinks they can compete with Steam.

The funniest thing is that you think they can't.

[LAWLERSKATEZ]

The funniest thing is that you think they can't.

You seriously think they can?

[Europhoria]

Could have been at Crytek's request.

Too bad for them.
The EA store is completely messed up, the website load slow as hell and it redirects me to a wrong region, of course the games have incorrect price tag and they try to charge in Euros.

I can't imagine what bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ignorant handicapped monkeys are working there.

SILENCE! You live in Brazil now! :mad:

[chrisdglong]

No sweat, EA will lose big. Not only are they going to lose revenue from Steam loyal customers, but also from sales going to the other publishers who still sell on Steam. They are REALLY stupid to make this move. They could have competed with Steam, if they would have got a wider selection on their Origin platform. But, they decided to get greedy. They don't want to compete with Steam, they want full revenue for their games and the ability to price fix.

[StingingVelvet]

You seriously think they can?

EA is a massive company with industry ties and a marketing budget that could kill God. Of course they can.

Of course so could Microsoft, but they haven't yet because they don't bother putting the resources into Windows Live that it would take to really compete. EA might do the same half-asses job, we shall see. As of right now though Origin is already pretty good and probably the second-best client out there next to Steam.

[alihunter]

As I have mentioned clearly on some place else:

"Battlefield 3 will be exclusive to origin.

Either way,I wont even bother using origin.As long as CoD stays here,the FPS fanbase is not going anywhere.Plus,why would I need to stop playing Valve games?"

Clearly EA is the one to lose.The huge FPS fanbase here is not going anywhere(CoD just helped that dramatically).

[Zedo Mann]

That's cool. ♥♥♥♥ you, EA.

[StingingVelvet]

As I have mentioned clearly on some place else:

"Battlefield 3 will be exclusive to origin.

Either way,I wont even bother using origin.As long as CoD stays here,the FPS fanbase is not going anywhere.Plus,why would I need to stop playing Valve games?"

Clearly EA is the one to lose.The huge FPS fanbase here is not going anywhere(CoD just helped that dramatically).

That's pure BS, to put it bluntly. I know everyone here wants to think otherwise but the simple fact is you don't need Steam to be a PC success. Minecraft = not on Steam. Starcraft 2 = not on Steam. World of Warcraft = not on Steam. The Sims 3 was not on Steam until LONG after it came out and was a massive success.

Recent games have shown EA you do not have to be on Steam to sell tons of copies and be some of the most successful PC game releases of all time. Do you really think Battlefield and Mass Effect can't do the same? Do you really think EA don't have the marketing and brand awareness to get people to head over to Origin to buy them?

You're in a dream world friend.

[djsatane]

People keep forgetting how this hurts the customer, price wise customers will pay dearly.

[reddead2067]

The simplicity of Steam has made me a steam only Fanboy. I'm sure others are in similar shoes.

I don't buy non-Steam games.

Why would EA choose to hold it back?

[Freyar]

The simplicity of Steam has made me a steam only Hammer Legion Member. I'm sure others are in similar shoes.

I don't buy non-Steam games.

Why would EA choose to hold it back?

Because they think you won't hold out.

[Simian_]

Because they think you won't hold out.

They're probably right. Gamers these days are total pushovers. I'd even go as far as saying that the majority of them are suckers.

[Ramos29]

I was initially disappointed after reading this. However at the end of the day, competition is good for us customers (If third party support backs EA origin). The only drawback is that this EA DD service isn't as sale happy as steam. I mean what changes apart from having to take a couple of seconds to open an EA exclusive from elsewhere in you computer? I mean it's exactly the same game that could have been sold on steam. Big deal. If this is successful then hopefully a company as big as EA will continue to invest and promote in PC gaming. I see no harm in this. I mean if I was EA origin team boss I would do the same thing. It would be illogical not to do this. You have to take risks to make it to the top. Whether or not this is successful depends on gamers immature attitudes. maybe this it would be too risky with Battlefield 3 as it has a direct competitor in MW3. But with ME3 and others it would be a good call from a company point of view.

At the end of the day it will be retail or EA origin, either way EA will make money from selling a PC title. What if nobody bought EA games and then EA tells it's developers not to bother making PC titles anymore?

Valve and EA two big companies promoting PC gaming is a good thing. Maybe it will make those companies that always exlcude the PC from multi platform games, to start making them again. Yes, LA Noire, Red Dead Redemption, Halo 3, 4 Reach and Gears of War 2 and 3; I am looking at you.

EDIT: Also Valve will always be #1 in the PC gamers hearts as we genuinely feel that Valve cares for it's PC gamer base and is seen as the premier PC developer.Also Valve's support for indie developers is heart warming. EA may only be interested in money and not care alot for us but hey at the end of the day it's good to have a big publisher and developer like EA on board.

[djsatane]

I was initially disappointed after reading this. However at the end of the day, competition is good for us customers (If third party support backs EA origin). The only drawback is that this EA DD service isn't as sale happy as steam. I mean what changes apart from having to take a couple of seconds to open an EA exclusive from elsewhere in you computer? I mean it's exactly the same game that could have been sold on steam. Big deal. If this is successful then hopefully a company as big as EA will continue to invest and promote in PC gaming. I see no harm in this. I mean if I was EA origin team boss I would do the same thing. It would be illogical not to do this. You have to take risks to make it to the top. Whether or not this is successful depends on gamers immature attitudes. maybe this it would be too risky with Battlefield 3 as it has a direct competitor in MW3. But with ME3 and others it would be a good call from a company point of view.

At the end of the day it will be retail or EA origin, either way EA will make money from selling a PC title. What if nobody bought EA games and then EA tells it's developers not to bother making PC titles anymore?

Valve and EA two big companies promoting PC gaming is a good thing. Maybe it will make those companies that always exlcude the PC from multi platform games, to start making them again. Yes, LA Noire, Red Dead Redemption, Halo 3, 4 Reach and Gears of War 2 and 3; I am looking at you.

EDIT: Also Valve will always be #1 in the PC gamers hearts as we genuinely feel that Valve cares for it's PC gamer base and is seen as the premier PC developer.Also Valve's support for indie developers is heart warming. EA may only be interested in money and not care alot for us but hey at the end of the day it's good to have a big publisher and developer like EA on board.

This is not competition. If EA kept their titles being sold on steam and origin and then actually did something that would pull customers to origin over steam such as lower price or better feature, now that would be competition. This is not, enjoy paying extreme prices for EA titles.

[daninthemix]

Oh well, guess I won't be buying Crysis 2 then.

[Omega_X]

That's pure BS, to put it bluntly. I know everyone here wants to think otherwise but the simple fact is you don't need Steam to be a PC success. Minecraft = not on Steam. Starcraft 2 = not on Steam. World of Warcraft = not on Steam.

Minecraft guy mentioned that it'll show up on Steam after its done (aka not beta).

Also, Blizzard has done its own thing since the dawn of time. They didn't suddenly pull titles from the one service(and not others) to do its own thing.

[chopstix]

Minecraft guy mentioned that it'll show up on Steam after its done (aka not beta).
The point being, it was a success well before it appeared on Steam. Steam was not key to survival. Sure it will gain some more sales here, but it has likely already received the bulk of them without it.

[ApeSpecter]

I was waiting for a sale on Steam to buy it. But no luck then..

[Verminus]

I guess I wouldn't mind (as much) if EA's origin client didn't say "origin beta" in the title bar and actually worked properly. Their Chat feature seems to be permanently disabled and it constantly thinks I'm playing a game, it has no idea what of course and is completely wrong.

I guess that's what really rankles me, not that their trying to pull this stunt in the first place, (I kind of expected it of them to be honest), but that that are doing it before they have even got their client into a working state!!

[SunriseDriver]

Hey EA do you have enough balls to pull off Crysis 1 (which doesn't have console versions) from Steam?

[Metro]

They're probably right. Gamers these days are total pushovers. I'd even go as far as saying that the majority of them are suckers.

The fact that EA makes as much money as they do publishing garbage is proof of that.

[Jakeman249]

Or maybe there was something else that has gone wrong, and it has been pulled temporarily? No need for wild speculation just yet. It could be anything. A glitch, an agreement issue, or any number of things.

It is still available on other stores, so I doubt this is being pulled to become an "exclusive" to Origin.

It's a direct hint that they don't want people to use steam, for WHATEVER REASONS HMM. To think otherwise is slow-like

[gurkoz]

I don't even know what to say here without running the risk of being banned. I love Steam and it's since a few years the only way for me to purchase games. This is just... terrible. Guess i will just skip the EA games or go back to pirated software. See how the industry thinks about that.

[Aura891]

The point being, it was a success well before it appeared on Steam. Steam was not key to survival. Sure it will gain some more sales here, but it has likely already received the bulk of them without it.

that's a once in every 200 games for a game like that to actually be successful outside of steam/the masses

the only reason minecraft as become so popular and successful is because some guy thought up of a good way to do something completely different, use peoples creativity, and essentially build one big large sandbox game

not every game is minecraft, and by far not every game has the ability to be successful without steam, or some sort of mass advertisements, etc.

[Cymen90]

k then. no EA digital copies for me anymore :p

[Bobafett2k6]

How can people claim that this is competition? If the games are gonna be exclusive to Origin then they aren't competing with anyone, you can bet your big fat ♥♥♥ the prices won't be low either! Competion would be healthy if the game was left out there on other DD services where they can compete with each other over prices.

[Boredom]

We're going to enter in a «exclusive» titles wars. Just like consoles have exclusive titles, so it will happen on download stores. Valve / Steam should negotiate, in future, the rights for the sale of some titles. At least for six months, one year.

[paolo83]

But when the dx11 patch come out, i hope there will not be any problem for the steam version.

[Bobafett2k6]

I can't believe the ♥♥♥♥storm that's erupting in the Steam general forum about Origin, while i would still prefer titles like BF3 to be available on Steam I've thought about it and is it really that big of a deal? This is me speaking with no experience of using Origin btw.

[crispy animal]

Activision are you watching? It's the perfect time to put a MW3 pre-order.

PC gamers buy MW3 instead of BF3 in protest.

Never, i'll just get Red Orchestra 2!!

[mouton]

I can't believe the ♥♥♥♥storm that's erupting in the Steam general forum about Origin, while i would still prefer titles like BF3 to be available on Steam I've thought about it and is it really that big of a deal? This is me speaking with no experience of using Origin btw.
This. In the end its just an app that downloads the game, an installer. Why do people react like someone violated their facebook page?

[Toridas]

Sorry EA. I have about 200 games on Steam. I'm not about to start using other stores and have to start keeping track of what games I have on each. No Steam, no buy.

[NostalgicRobotX]

Competition is good for the industry, but this is just a bit sour.

This whole "exclusivity" tactic is rather annoying from the consumers aspect. They shouldn't be competing with steam by pulling titles from it, they should be offering the same content, but for less of a price. origin even has a few features that I wish steam would have, like the ability to install a game wherever you want.

If EA origin titles didn't make you run the client in order to play games, then I have no problem with it. All I want is the standard online-play activation EA usually has for there games, with Origin being totally optional.

[Chapa9dj]

I have over 550 games on Steam, i can't be bothered with another client, especially a bloatware.
Multiple clients, login and password is a NO NO on my book.

And just when i was thinking on getting BF3 and ME3. Now i won't be able to do so.

[MNM]

Could have been at Crytek's request.´
Nope, check the crysis subforum

[chopstix]

How can people claim that this is competition? If the games are gonna be exclusive to Origin then they aren't competing with anyone, you can bet your big fat ♥♥♥ the prices won't be low either! Competion would be healthy if the game was left out there on other DD services where they can compete with each other over prices.

They run flash deals very often, resulting in some of the lowest prices I have seen for their products. $7.95 for BC2 + all DLC not too long ago. Haven't seen Steam match that yet.

Really, the assumptions on this forum are insane.

What about Valve now? They refuse to put their games on other services. By your logic, Valve is incredibly anti-competitive. I don't see you complaining about that though. D:

[Warhorse]

If EA origin titles didn't make you run the client in order to play games, then I have no problem with it. All I want is the standard online-play activation EA usually has for there games, with Origin being totally optional.

Isn't that what it already does?, i have quite a few games on my Origin account and i'm not required to run the app to play the games.

[DarkPhoenix966]

What happens with people who own this game on Steam? :\

[chokke]

I don't mind having EA put up a worthy competition against Steam.
But the issue is, they don't. This is way to enforced compared to Steam.
It's like "in order to play this game, you need to move and settle in North-Korea following every rule there is there, you can't complain or you will get shot". I enjoy my voice here in EU and plan to keep it that way [Steam].

[chopstix]

I don't mind having EA put up a worthy competition against Steam.
But the issue is, they don't. This is way to enforced compared to Steam.
It's like "in order to play this game, you need to move and settle in North-Korea following every rule there is there, you can't complain or you will get shot". I enjoy my voice here in EU and plan to keep it that way [Steam].

How is it different from Steam, who also forces you to use their client and use their service no matter where you purchase their game, including retail copies? :confused:

[MrXGamer]

200 posts later and still no response from Steam staff.

All they have to say is that they're out of keys, some technical issue or it's permanently removed. No explanation needed, but I know they will stay quiet as usual.

[makke007]

Origin will Fail Nothing more to say ;)

[Chris_TC]

If a game is not on Steam I don't buy it. Screw you, EA.

Everybody who caves in now and buys these exclusive games on their store helps destroy PC gaming. Other publishers will follow EA's example, and we'll have to buy games from a dozen different places.

[zer0kewl]

hope they go bankrupt they deserve that.......

[hairbautt]

Suddenly, Mass Effect 3, Battlefield 3 and The Old Republic seem far off.

<sigh>

So much for users who want one cohesive platform.

[Insomnia80]

I don´t care about EA´s midclass games, Crysis 2 is imo a crappy console port, who cares.
They said TOR will be the only Origin Only Game, so theres imo a good chance to see BF3 and ME3 on Steam.

[Bobafett2k6]

How can people claim that this is competition? If the games are gonna be exclusive to Origin then they aren't competing with anyone, you can bet your big fat ♥♥♥ the prices won't be low either! Competion would be healthy if the game was left out there on other DD services where they can compete with each other over prices.

They run flash deals very often, resulting in some of the lowest prices I have seen for their products. $7.95 for BC2 + all DLC not too long ago. Haven't seen Steam match that yet.

Really, the assumptions on this forum are insane.

What about Valve now? They refuse to put their games on other services. By your logic, Valve is incredibly anti-competitive. I don't see you complaining about that though. D:

I was referring solely to Crysis 2. Apologies i should have made that clearer.
I agree that Valves games should also be made available from other DD sites to create competition. I do not agree however, that Valve are anti-competitive, they permenantly have sales and a lot of these are large discounts.

[chokke]

How is it different from Steam, who also forces you to use their client and use their service no matter where you purchase their game, including retail copies? :confused:

Download or interupt a download 3 times within ten days and you are forced to wait to be allowed to download again. The general activation-crap we've been living with from EA, harsh DRM that does nothing good for the legal people and that stuff.
If a game uses a client to be launched, that DRM is sufficient.

Remember that guy that complained about BioWare and had his Singleplayer games shut off? Well, think it will get any better.

Heck, even Blizzard puts up a worthy competition against Steam when it comes to use-ability. If EA did something like battle.net, I wouldn't mind.

For me, it's that I can't trust EA to put up a worthy competition. Atl east not now when they are pulling their games off Steam and not sellign their titles on Steam any more.

[Mave.ts]

Oh god oh god oh god. So it has started.. well, guess no EA games for me then. :>

[NostalgicRobotX]

Isn't that what it already does?, i have quite a few games on my Origin account and i'm not required to run the app to play the games.

Then I have no problems with buying from Origin. If there is a cheaper game on it, I could care less about it being a "legit steam game." I could just link it as a non-steam game anyway, and retain the same functionality I had before.

[raf]

How the hell does EA think this will help them compete with Activition by cutting off their biggest retailer? Madness...
On a side note, can't blame a business for wanting the whole $.

[TioChuck]

Why all the hate? You don't need to be running origin to play a game from there, just use it to download and then add as a nom steam game to your library, just like retail. I personaly have some games on Origin from the old EADM and see no problems there, they even do some good promotions time to time, and you get 5% off every purchase, despite pre-purchases, when press f5 on the checkout, when buying from your browser.

[orci]

Unfortunately for EA, if BF3 isn't on Steam, I won't be buying it. I am still hoping it is.... but I am now filled with doubt.

[cristianesza]

Why all the hate? You don't need to be running origin to play a game from there, just use it to download and then add as a nom steam game to your library, just like retail. I personaly have some games on Origin from the old EADM and see no problems there, they even do some good promotions time to time, and you get 5% off every purchase, despite pre-purchases, when press f5 on the checkout, when buying from your browser.

Nice try, John Riccitiello.

[sascha23]

I'm sad to see that my discovery wasn't a fluke.

I will not be buying anything directly from Origin.

Worst case, when ME3 hits, if not on Steam, I will buy the physical copy. Registering the game on Origin will be less painful than having to put my card info on that site and supporting them directly for their decision.

I encourage good business practices that benefit both the consumer and the business. In this scenario, it's mostly benefiting EA and taking away convenience from PC gamers--whom, let's admit it, primarily use Steam for their gaming.

[Sir_Brizz]

Nice try, John Riccitiello.
Haha, +rep. Made me laugh soda out my nose.

[paratech2008]

Why all the hate? You don't need to be running origin to play a game from there, just use it to download and then add as a nom steam game to your library, just like retail. I personaly have some games on Origin from the old EADM and see no problems there, they even do some good promotions time to time, and you get 5% off every purchase, despite pre-purchases, when press f5 on the checkout, when buying from your browser.

My issue is on Steam there isn't a 5 activation limit, but there is on Origin and retail, so if I can't get the games I want on Steam, I won't be buying them.

But not enough people will do that so EA won't be jarated over losing me as a customer.

Maybe when I get a 360, I'll just get Need for Speed Hot Pursuit and Dead Space 2 "used" just to jarate EA! ;)

[hlhbk]

People need to stop blindly hating. BTW I am not a EA fanboy or blindly defending EA. I had the same worries about Origin until I tried it. I suggest those of you bashing what you remember the old EA store being like try Origin. It is vastly improved. I haven't actually purchased any games on Origin yet, but I have registred my CD keys for all my EA games to Origin and have been very impressed with the interface/speed of the downloads/general overall experience Origin has provided so far.

At this point there could be a lot worse places to download games like Mass Effect 3, and Battlefield 3 from. Impulse and Direct2drive come to mind.

[Sir_Brizz]

For me, I don't like the idea of a publisher running their own storefront. If you think Steam has no customer protections, wait until the developer AND producer AND distributor are all the same person. No thanks.

I also don't feel like they can really compete with Steam. They likely won't branch out to other publishers/developers to get more games on their service, and one of the draws of Steam is that you can see what OTHER games your friends are playing. This kind of cross-promotion is REALLY good for indie developers who have a hard enough time selling games as it is.

On top of that, I have hard enough time trusting EA with my EA account. Now they want me to give them even more personally identifiable information AND credit card numbers? No thanks, again!

I guess I, like many others, will be saving money on EA games from now on. There are TONS of great games coming out by other publishers and developers right now. I'll support the people that are pushing gaming in the direction I think it should be going rather than wasting time on crap like Origin (something they couldn't stop blabbering about and showing the logo for enough during E3).

I should note that, for fun, I activated about 1/4th or so of my Steam EA games on Origin for free. The platform is just as terrible as EADM. In fact, it's the same basic product with a few new features, so don't expect to like it if you thought EADM was crap.

[stiimsakib]

Rats leave first...

[XmXFLUXmX]

So much stupid Steam Hammer Legion Memberism in this thread. This is probably some of the greatest news for PC gamers. Why?


Because more competition to Steam will force them to give better deals and sell their stuff for cheaper.

The last thing we as a consumer need is a company with a monopoly and complete market control.

[Ersatz Nihilist]

Rats leave first...

Are you insinuating that Steam is a sinking ship?

[moizeus]

I was just about to go and buy it and now it looks like it's gone.

I'm starting to feel that EA is going to pull every new release off Steam to sell on their crappy service.

This is going to be a big financial goof for them.

Guess I won't be playing Crysis 2 unless it's back on Steam some day.

Sigh.

If this happen we shall boycott every EA game. so yeah. Cause if they take my BFBC2 out I want a refund

[DTKT]

So much stupid Steam Hammer Legion Memberism in this thread. This is probably some of the greatest news for PC gamers. Why?


Because more competition to Steam will force them to give better deals and sell their stuff for cheaper.

The last thing we as a consumer need is a company with a monopoly.

How can you have competition when EA is going to offer EA games only? What do you mean by monopoly? Do you mean the monopoly EA is creating with Origin?

[Ronlaen]

So much stupid Steam Hammer Legion Memberism in this thread. This is probably some of the greatest news for PC gamers. Why?


Because more competition to Steam will force them to give better deals and sell their stuff for cheaper.

The last thing we as a consumer need is a company with a monopoly and complete market control.

This is only a good thing if Steam actually has the games available on their store which it doesn't look like it will. Oh well, I have no shortage of games to play and not going to purchase anything from Origins.

[Sir_Brizz]

Because more competition to Steam will force them to give better deals and sell their stuff for cheaper.

The last thing we as a consumer need is a company with a monopoly and complete market control.
First we need a real competitor. Origin won't be. If GreenManGaming or perhaps even Direct2Drive got a serious client out, I would be less concerned about it and even welcome it. They don't publish their own games and publishers have no reason to give them preference over any other platform (including Steam).

The other problem is that, clearly, EA is looking to STIFLE competition with Origin by only allowing their games to be delivered there. Then they can keep prices artificially high for as long as they want and nobody can do anything about it.

[orci]

So much stupid Steam Hammer Legion Memberism in this thread. This is probably some of the greatest news for PC gamers. Why?


Because more competition to Steam will force them to give better deals and sell their stuff for cheaper.

The last thing we as a consumer need is a company with a monopoly and complete market control.

Two distributors, one which has exclusive content (ie: SW:TOR, possibly BF3 for Origin) will keep the prices HIGH. It will NOT drive them down. Why would they lower the price if the game cannot be put on sale with any other distributor?

I can see prices going up, and not down, especially on Origin.

[sascha23]

How can you have competition when EA is going to offer EA games only?

This.

I fully support Origin doing it's thing, but not when it takes away games to only sell on its platform. Not good for the consumer, and ultimately, EA. I think they have it in their heads that pulling a Steam-like service out of their hats is going to be easy.

Guess we'll find out. ;)

[NostalgicRobotX]

How can you have competition when EA is going to offer EA games only? What do you mean by monopoly? Do you mean the monopoly EA is creating with Origin?

To be fair, Valve does the exact same thing with steam. This thread seems familiar to the anti-steam threads that erupted once HL2 was released.

[hlhbk]

This.

I fully support Origin doing it's thing, but not when it takes away games to only sell on its platform. Not good for the consumer, and ultimately, EA. I think they have it in their heads that pulling a Steam-like service out of their hats is going to be easy.

Guess we'll find out. ;)

Can you buy Valve games elsewhere? It's the same thing.

[hlhbk]

To be fair, Valve does the exact same thing with steam. This thread seems familiar to the anti-steam threads that erupted once HL2 was released.

Exactly! Welcome back to 2004!

[DTKT]

To be fair, Valve does the exact same thing with steam. This thread seems familiar to the anti-steam threads that erupted once HL2 was released.

It comes down to the issue of size. EA is a huge publisher that offers an staggering amount of game titles. Valve, on the other hand, has very few titles.

You just can't compare both.

[hlhbk]

It comes down to the issue of size. EA is a huge publisher that offers an staggering amount of game titles. Valve, on the other hand, has very few titles.

You just can't compare both.

Um why not?

[sascha23]

Can you buy Valve games elsewhere? It's the same thing.

The difference sir, is that Steam offers games from all publishers where Origin would only cater to EA's content. The main benefit of Steam is Valve's ability to instantly patch their games across the board.

Secondly, if EA was to offer content from other publishers, then I think it would be more of a competitor than what it's doing right now--taking it's product off a large store's shelf.

[paratech2008]

To be fair, Valve does the exact same thing with steam. This thread seems familiar to the anti-steam threads that erupted once HL2 was released.

Except Valve doesn't use 5 activation limits on their games and EA does. In fact Crysis 2 doesn't have activation limits on Steam but does on Origin and that speaks volumes about the situation.

:mad:

[chopstix]

The difference sir, is that Steam offers games from all publishers where Origin would only cater to EA's content. The main benefit of Steam is Valve's ability to instantly patch their games across the board.

It is not different. Valve offer games exclusively on their own service. EA is doing the same. The addition of other third party content is irrelevant.

[Ersatz Nihilist]

The difference sir, is that Steam offers games from all publishers where Origin would only cater to EA's content. The main benefit of Steam is Valve's ability to instantly patch their games across the board.

Secondly, if EA was to offer content from other publishers, then I think it would be more of a competitor than what it's doing right now--taking it's product off a large store's shelf.

That's exactly what they plan to do Link! (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-15-ea-origin-compares-to-xbl-psn-steam)

Their vision for Origin is for it to very much be a full spectrum competitor for Steam. And, Er... XBL.

[Chris_TC]

This is probably some of the greatest news for PC gamers. Why? Because more competition to Steam will force them to give better deals and sell their stuff for cheaper.
What are you talking about? If EA games were still offered on Steam, it would be competition. And I wouldn't care because I'd still buy them on Steam.
How is this great news for me as a Steam-only gamer?