Can i run dead island?

[deronan]

Ghost in the Shell



Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.10.1.0
Internal Version: 7, 10, 1, 0

Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42L>Version: SL00 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.10.1.0
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10.1.2010
Burn DVD Image
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Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
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[BC2 Cypher]

Minimum:

OS: Windows XP
Processor: Core2Duo 2.66 GHz
Memory: 1 GB RAM
Graphics: ATI 2600XT 512MB VRAM (GeForce 8600GT)
DirectX®: DirectX 9.0C
Hard Drive: 2.0 GB available hard drive space
Other: keyboard, mouse

Recommended

OS: Windows 7
Processor: Core2Duo 2.66 GHz
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: GeForce 9600 (1GB)
DirectX®: DirectX 9.0C
Hard Drive: 2.0 GB available hard drive space
Other: keyboard, mouse

[deronan]

windows xp media center edition
Pentium D dual core 2.8
2 gigs of ram
Radeon Saphire 4300

Can I run this game?

please ide like to know before purchasing i can read the store information.....above post is quite redundant and doesn't answer my question

[BC2 Cypher]

windows xp media center edition
Pentium D dual core 2.8
2 gigs of ram
Radeon Saphire 4300

Can I run this game?

please ide like to know before purchasing i can read the store information.....above post is quite redundant and doesn't answer my question

My post wasn't redundant at all.

Those are the requirements to run the game.

I mean for ♥♥♥♥'s sake is it really that hard to figure out that you can't run it?.

I mean that's why the requirements are listed. So you know if you can.

[deronan]

My post wasn't redundant at all.

Those are the requirements to run the game.

I mean for ♥♥♥♥'s sake is it really that hard to figure out that you can run it?. But probably not well.

I mean that's why the requirements are listed. So you know if you can.

Your graphics card is weak. You should upgrade it.

my cpu Pentium D dual core 2.8
differs from the reccomended i dont know if my cpu is equivilant, or below recommended.


its redundant cause u listed information found on store page if im on the forums and still need more info. I have obviously been to the store page :rolleyes: dont be a jerk


Still dont know if i can run this game or not. Would like more then one persons opinion i would like to know if my pentium D 2.8 is above or below min or reccomended cause i dont see how my older generation chip s tacks up to the core2duo..... Or you know copy and paste min and recommended requires from the store page again that was very help the first time.

[deathbringer_jo]

your proccesor and graphic card are quite weak. But the minimum system requirements are rather low. So i would say you could play this game on low settings.But dont preorder it just on my sayings.Better save than sorry.

[deronan]

your proccesor and graphic card are quite weak. But the minimum system requirements are rather low. So i would say you could play this game on low settings.But dont preorder it just on my sayings.Better save than sorry.

thanks for your opinion more are helpful, I play most game with setting on low as it


more opinions will be very helpful!

[TimM]

There are no more opinions, I think what have been said is what needs to be said. You might be able to run this on low, as it is not super demanding, but I dunno if you will be able to run it smoothly.

An upgrade is what you need.

[deronan]

i woulda let thread Die I def need more opinions now i cant trust none of you sour grapes, No one has yet to answer my question does my cpu and gpu meet min requirement or not?



helpful non sour grape.

your proccesor and graphic card are quite weak. But the minimum system requirements are rather low. So i would say you could play this game on low settings.But dont preorder it just on my sayings.Better save than sorry.


someone is giving me the game i don't have money for upgrades im not here for you to tell me what i need im here for a simple answer and some opinions. My friends has bought a 4 pack and wants to know is it even worth giving to me am i going to be able to play.

[BaboYa]

A Pentium D is below a Core 2 Duo. I also have a Pentium D (3,2ghz) and an Ati Radeon 4870 1GB. Currently I'm Playing Duke Nuekm Forever everything maxed and enabled with a resolution of 1920x1080. The fps is almost always above 30, sometimes it drops below 30 but never unplayable. The recommended for Duke is

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.4 Ghz / AMD Athlon 64 X2 @ 2.6 Ghz
Memory: 2GB
Hard Disk Space: 10 Gb free
Video Memory: 512 MB
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS / ATI Radeon HD 3850

The recommended for Dead Island is

Processor: Core2Duo 2.66 GHz
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Video card: GeForce 9600 (1GB)

Another good example is Fear 3. The recommended requirements are

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz+, Intel quad core 2.66GHz+, AMD Phenom II X2 550, 3.1GHz+
Drive space: 10.0GB
Memory: 4GB
Video card: NVIDIA 9800 GTX+ 512 MB RAM, ATI 5750HD 512Mb RAM or better
DirectX®: 11

Dead Island recommended requirements are the same as the minimum. Fear 3 requires more, yet I can run that game smooth, always above 30fps and my CPU is weaker than the one required in Fear 3.

So I'm guessing you can run Dead Island, just not maxed out. Maybe somewhere between low and medium, since I don't know what Radeon 4300 you have and what it's capable of. Also what are the games you are playing now and on what settings?

[deronan]

A Pentium D is below a Core 2 Duo. I also have a Pentium D (3,2ghz) and an Ati Radeon 4870 1GB. Currently I'm Playing Duke Nuekm Forever everything maxed and enabled with a resolution of 1920x1080. The fps is almost always above 30, sometimes it drops below 30 but never unplayable. The recommended for Duke is

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.4 Ghz / AMD Athlon 64 X2 @ 2.6 Ghz
Memory: 2GB
Hard Disk Space: 10 Gb free
Video Memory: 512 MB
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS / ATI Radeon HD 3850

The recommended for Dead Island is

Processor: Core2Duo 2.66 GHz
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Video card: GeForce 9600 (1GB)

Another good example is Fear 3. The recommended requirements are

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz+, Intel quad core 2.66GHz+, AMD Phenom II X2 550, 3.1GHz+
Drive space: 10.0GB
Memory: 4GB
Video card: NVIDIA 9800 GTX+ 512 MB RAM, ATI 5750HD 512Mb RAM or better
DirectX®: 11

Dead Island recommended requirements are the same as the minimum. Fear 3 requires more, yet I can run that game smooth, always above 30fps and my CPU is weaker than the one required in Fear 3.

So I'm guessing you can run Dead Island, just not maxed out. Maybe somewhere between low and medium, since I don't know what Radeon 4300 you have and what it's capable of. Also what are the games you are playing now and on what settings?
l4d 2 tf2 fall out nv duke nukem all on low

[Stevel024]

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/

[Stevel024]

A Pentium D is below a Core 2 Duo. I also have a Pentium D (3,2ghz) and an Ati Radeon 4870 1GB. Currently I'm Playing Duke Nuekm Forever everything maxed and enabled with a resolution of 1920x1080. The fps is almost always above 30, sometimes it drops below 30 but never unplayable. The recommended for Duke is

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.4 Ghz / AMD Athlon 64 X2 @ 2.6 Ghz
Memory: 2GB
Hard Disk Space: 10 Gb free
Video Memory: 512 MB
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS / ATI Radeon HD 3850

The recommended for Dead Island is

Processor: Core2Duo 2.66 GHz
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Video card: GeForce 9600 (1GB)

Another good example is Fear 3. The recommended requirements are

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz+, Intel quad core 2.66GHz+, AMD Phenom II X2 550, 3.1GHz+
Drive space: 10.0GB
Memory: 4GB
Video card: NVIDIA 9800 GTX+ 512 MB RAM, ATI 5750HD 512Mb RAM or better
DirectX®: 11

Dead Island recommended requirements are the same as the minimum. Fear 3 requires more, yet I can run that game smooth, always above 30fps and my CPU is weaker than the one required in Fear 3.

So I'm guessing you can run Dead Island, just not maxed out. Maybe somewhere between low and medium, since I don't know what Radeon 4300 you have and what it's capable of. Also what are the games you are playing now and on what settings?

Duke Nukem isn't exactly a graphic benchmark, that engine is serverly outdated. Also, you have a much better graphics card than the OP's Radeon 4300, so much so that I believe your processor is a bottleneck for you gpu; you should really think about upgrade your processor.

[Stevel024]

i woulda let thread Die I def need more opinions now i cant trust none of you sour grapes, No one has yet to answer my question does my cpu and gpu meet min requirement or not?



helpful non sour grape.




someone is giving me the game i don't have money for upgrades im not here for you to tell me what i need im here for a simple answer and some opinions. My friends has bought a 4 pack and wants to know is it even worth giving to me am i going to be able to play.

What sour grapes? You are the one asking for help and help was provided. Your processor and graphics card are severely outdated. Your CPU does not meet the minimum requirement but the gpu will probably RUN the game, however I don't think it will be playable. If the game is CPU intensive then most likely you won't have an enjoyable experience.

[trek554]

A Pentium D is below a Core 2 Duo. I also have a Pentium D (3,2ghz) and an Ati Radeon 4870 1GB. Currently I'm Playing Duke Nuekm Forever everything maxed and enabled with a resolution of 1920x1080. The fps is almost always above 30, sometimes it drops below 30 but never unplayable. The recommended for Duke is

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.4 Ghz / AMD Athlon 64 X2 @ 2.6 Ghz
Memory: 2GB
Hard Disk Space: 10 Gb free
Video Memory: 512 MB
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS / ATI Radeon HD 3850

The recommended for Dead Island is

Processor: Core2Duo 2.66 GHz
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Video card: GeForce 9600 (1GB)

Another good example is Fear 3. The recommended requirements are

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz+, Intel quad core 2.66GHz+, AMD Phenom II X2 550, 3.1GHz+
Drive space: 10.0GB
Memory: 4GB
Video card: NVIDIA 9800 GTX+ 512 MB RAM, ATI 5750HD 512Mb RAM or better
DirectX®: 11

Dead Island recommended requirements are the same as the minimum. Fear 3 requires more, yet I can run that game smooth, always above 30fps and my CPU is weaker than the one required in Fear 3.

So I'm guessing you can run Dead Island, just not maxed out. Maybe somewhere between low and medium, since I don't know what Radeon 4300 you have and what it's capable of. Also what are the games you are playing now and on what settings?a 3.2 Pentium D with a 4870? so you thought it would be fun to get only about half of what your video card can deliver? even a Core 2 duo at 1.6 is faster than your cpu. that cpu of yours does not even meet the minimum requirements for most newer games and again it bottlenecks the crap out of what a 4870 can do.

[trek554]

windows xp media center edition
Pentium D dual core 2.8
2 gigs of ram
Radeon Saphire 4300

Can I run this game?

please ide like to know before purchasing i can read the store information.....above post is quite redundant and doesn't answer my question
not even close. your cpu and especially gpu are way below requirements for this game as well as most other games made in the last few years.

[BaboYa]

Like I said, a Pentium D is below a Core 2 Duo. I know my CPU is the bottleneck. The OP was asking for an opinion and since I have a similar CPU I gave my opinion whether he can run it or not. I'm saving up a money for a custom built PC so I do not need to upgrade my CPU. Upgrading my CPU means a new mobo, new ram and a new case. Then my GPU would be the bottleneck, then I would also need to upgrade my GPU.

OP should be able to run it on low/ medium depending on resolution.

[trek554]

Like I said, a Pentium D is below a Core 2 Duo. I know my CPU is the bottleneck. The OP was asking for an opinion and since I have a similar CPU I gave my opinion whether he can run it or not. I'm saving up a money for a custom built PC so I do not need to upgrade my CPU. Upgrading my CPU means a new mobo, new ram and a new case. Then my GPU would be the bottleneck, then I would also need to upgrade my GPU.

OP should be able to run it on low/ medium depending on resolution.NO HE CANT. please do not give advice when you do not even understand hardware. neither his cpu or gpu are even close to meeting minimum requirements.

[BaboYa]

Do you understand hardware? Have you played with a similar setup? If you have not, you can't say no. Even my previous GPU, a Nvidia 8600gt could play L4D2 on medium with 2xAA. He's playing the same games as I am on low, when I played those games with a Nvidia 8600gt on medium.

[trek554]

Do you understand hardware? Have you played with a similar setup? If you have not, you can't say no. Even my previous GPU, a Nvidia 8600gt could play L4D2 on medium with 2xAA. He's playing the same games as I am on low, when I played those games with a Nvidia 8600gt on medium.yes i do know hardware and have used many gpus including an 8600gt and a gpu like his.

his cpu is a 2.8 Pentium D and a 2.66 Core 2 duo is literally almost twice as fast. if you doubt me look up reviews showing even the first gen of Core 2 duos are nearly TWICE as fast clock for clock as the Pentium D.

his gpu is a 4330 and a 2600xt is about 50-60% faster. even if he bought a better gpu, he likely would not average much over 20 fps with his cpu.

[BaboYa]

Let me rephrase that, have you played new games with a similar setup?

And seriously trek, for the third time :P I know a Pentium D is slower than a Core 2 Duo. Before the Core 2 Duo there were rebranded Pentium D's. You don't have to tell me it's much faster.

In my experience (with the 8600gt) games require a certain minimum requirements that in some cases I did not meet. Yet I was able to play them on low and sometimes medium. One of those games is Metro 2033. If you look at the min req on the steam store it says "Dual core CPU (any Core 2 Duo or better) // Graphics: DirectX 9, Shader Model 3 compliant graphics cards (GeForce 8800, GeForce GT220 and above)". Pentium D is not a Core 2 Duo, 8600gt is much slower than a 8800. If i remember correctly I was able to play that on low/ medium with a framerate above 20.

I don't expect OP to play Dead Island on max, but he should be on low settings and a res of 800x600.

[trek554]

and AGAIN if his cpu is only HALF as fast as the minimum required then telling him he can play the game is bad advice. and yes I have put my E8500 at 1.4 which would still be faster than his cpu and newer games with cpu requirements anywhere close to Dead Island were not playable. maybe to you 20fps is okay but not to most people.

IF his cpu was better that gpu would probably still struggle at 800x600. not to mention, who the hell wants to play a modern game on all low settings at 800x600 in the first place and still get a crappy framerate? anybody that forks out 40-60 bucks for games needs a decent pc to play them on.

I spend a lot of time testing and benchmarking games with various hardware. I know what to expect plus I read and keep up with hardware reviews. you on the other were silly enough to buy a 4870 and stick with a Pentium D. the games that you get 25-30 fps in could easily hit 50 or 60 fps in with a proper cpu. for the most part, all a 4870 helped you do was get a crappy framerate at 1920x1080.

[BaboYa]

LOL you do like insulting people, don't you? I'm not gonna lower myself to your level. I have passed that age. And yes, some people still play on 800x600 because they don't have the money to upgrade. I have to save up money because I have monthly costs. Not everyone is born with a silver spoon in their month nor do they make XXX amount of money so they can buy everything they want.

30 fps is considered good fps, 25 is still playable. As I have said before, for now I am content with my 'crappy framerate of 30'. Getting a new CPU would require me to upgrade everything, because my current mobo can't handle a new CPU. People are getting greedy because they want a minimum of 60fps. Getting a 4870 is silly because of my cpu? No, it's called I have to watch my monthly expenses. Welcome to adulthood.

[freakshowfreak]

pentium d is way below core 2 duo.......

but I do find it strange the minimum and recomanded are the same cpu.... makes me wonder if that's right.
because for minimum it's fairly high.

my little brother has a core 2 duo 2,4ghz with a 4780 1gb so I hope he can run it resonable because it's only a 200 mhz difrence and he only games at 1280x1024 ( I think he can get away with that )

but for the op between your system and the minimum requirements is a huge performance gap ( I wouldn't recomand you buying it only take the chance if you have enough money to upgrade )

[deronan]

aorry to start a ♥♥♥♥ storm cause i have ♥♥♥♥ box machine. Ill figure something out.

Thanks for all the opinions this has helped me alot i just dont wanna waste my friends extra copy if i cant play.

I can run the The new doom game with no problems and it has pretty much the same specs so that is what confused me it looks like such a awesome game. god i need new hardware!!!

[Fat Cat]

you can run the game. /thread. now expecting to be able to play is a whole other question.

[DraZiLoX]

You MAY run it, the point is, will it be enjoyable to play, probably not.

I have run L4D with these:
CPU: Pentium 4 2.1GHz
RAM: 1 GB
Graphics: Radeon X600

And the minimum says it's:
CPU: Pentium 4 3.0GHz
RAM: 1 GB
Graphics: Radeon X800

No, it was not enjoyable, even though I did play it.

I recommend you to get new graphics card atleast. With 50 euros you can get good enough.

Currently I have Radeon HD 2600 Pro, and I still ordered it. Gotta buy new card too, you are not the only one.

[deronan]

You MAY run it, the point is, will it be enjoyable to play, probably not.

I have run L4D with these:
CPU: Pentium 4 2.1GHz
RAM: 1 GB
Graphics: Radeon X600

And the minimum says it's:
CPU: Pentium 4 3.0GHz
RAM: 1 GB
Graphics: Radeon X800

No, it was not enjoyable, even though I did play it.

I recommend you to get new graphics card atleast. With 50 euros you can get good enough.

Currently I have Radeon HD 2600 Pro, and I still ordered it. Gotta buy new card too, you are not the only one.

thanks for your compassion and help

[trek554]

LOL you do like insulting people, don't you? I'm not gonna lower myself to your level. I have passed that age. And yes, some people still play on 800x600 because they don't have the money to upgrade. I have to save up money because I have monthly costs. Not everyone is born with a silver spoon in their month nor do they make XXX amount of money so they can buy everything they want.

30 fps is considered good fps, 25 is still playable. As I have said before, for now I am content with my 'crappy framerate of 30'. Getting a new CPU would require me to upgrade everything, because my current mobo can't handle a new CPU. People are getting greedy because they want a minimum of 60fps. Getting a 4870 is silly because of my cpu? No, it's called I have to watch my monthly expenses. Welcome to adulthood.and you missed the ENTIRE point. lets try this again and this time get off your little pity pot and and pay attention.

I was saying that his pc is too old and slow to have a decent game experience in games that require way more resources. he should NOT be worried about paying full price for games at launch with such a pc. he should instead be saving money towards getting a modern pc or console if he wants to play modern games. I can afford a nice pc because I do not buy games right when they launch and I wait until they are cheap. that saves me several hundred dollars a year which means a new pc every 3 years is not a problem. thats being a an adult. blowing money on games when you have piece of junk(for gaming) pc is silly.

and the other point was that if you "think" playing games with an average in the 20s is playable then great. most people do not and would want to have well over 30 fps for a smooth experience. and the reason it was silly for you to get a 4870 is because you are happy with a low framerate so you should have just bought a cheaper and slower card. you would be getting the SAME performance anyway with your old and slow Pentium D.

[trek554]

You MAY run it, the point is, will it be enjoyable to play, probably not.

I have run L4D with these:
CPU: Pentium 4 2.1GHz
RAM: 1 GB
Graphics: Radeon X600

And the minimum says it's:
CPU: Pentium 4 3.0GHz
RAM: 1 GB
Graphics: Radeon X800

No, it was not enjoyable, even though I did play it.

I recommend you to get new graphics card atleast. With 50 euros you can get good enough.

Currently I have Radeon HD 2600 Pro, and I still ordered it. Gotta buy new card too, you are not the only one.there is no real point in him getting a new video card when the recommended cpu is nearly twice as fast as what he has. he is past the point where a new pc is needed if he wants to play more demanding modern games.

[Undying Zombie]

Like others mentioned.. that GFX card will give you some problems. You can get a very BIG upgrade for around 100 USD or so. ( Perhaps 150 or 200 USD to be safe, but 100 USD will still get you a big upgrade. )

Though that depends on what kind of power supply you have, if it is not good enough you might end up needing to drop 85-100 USD on that as well.

Never ever,EVER keep your power supply at minimum for the system. Most power supplies do not technically give out the power they claim and/or not as effective at giving that amount of power. Top that off with even if it was a capable power supply that is at minimum for your system, it can still cause damage to components.

IE, if your video card says on the box it requires a 450w power supply, get something quite a bit higher than that. I would say around 600w+ minimum.

[BaboYa]

and you missed the ENTIRE point. lets try this again and this time get off your little pity pot and and pay attention.

I was saying that his pc is too old and slow to have a decent game experience in games that require way more resources. he should NOT be worried about paying full price for games at launch with such a pc. he should instead be saving money towards getting a modern pc or console if he wants to play modern games. I can afford a nice pc because I do not buy games right when they launch and I wait until they are cheap. that saves me several hundred dollars a year which means a new pc every 3 years is not a problem. thats being a an adult. blowing money on games when you have piece of junk(for gaming) pc is silly.

and the other point was that if you "think" playing games with an average in the 20s is playable then great. most people do not and would want to have well over 30 fps for a smooth experience. and the reason it was silly for you to get a 4870 is because you are happy with a low framerate so you should have just bought a cheaper and slower card. you would be getting the SAME performance anyway with your old and slow Pentium D.

LMAO, how about you getting off your high horse? If you can actually read, a friend is GIFTING him the game and he DOES NOT have enough money to upgrade. I have people in my friends list who simply do not have the extra money because they are a fulltime student. So they have to pay for their education and don't have enough time to work more. And I said playable, nowhere did I say enjoyable. Learn to read, or did you get punched one too many times on your head since you're a professional fighter. It is playable once again.

And since when is a fps of 30 considered a low framerate? A fps of 30 is enough for a smooth and enjoyable experience. The 4870 was cheap when I bought and I would not have had the same experience with a cheaper and slower card. Most games are GPU intensive. When I had a 8600gt I could barely run Crysis on medium on 1280x1024. When I replaced it with the 4870 I could run it on much higher settings with a smooth gameplay on 1920x1080. How do you explain that? My GPU gave some clock speed to my CPU because they became good buddies? In theory you are right, but since I have actually played with this setup you are wrong.

"I read hardware magazines and do benchmarks so I know better: :rolleyes: Ugh... some people...

[james_2k]

whislt what trek is saying is mostly true (apart from playable frame rates, everyone knows what they would accept as playable, eg when i had my old crappy laptop i could play with 20-25 fps no problems. but not anymore)

you are a bit blunt though, no need to ram it down his throat so much dude, relax a bit

[BaboYa]

Yeah like I said, in theory he is right but since I'm actually playing new games with a fps of 30 he is wrong.

[trek554]

LMAO, how about you getting off your high horse? If you can actually read, a friend is GIFTING him the game and he DOES NOT have enough money to upgrade. I have people in my friends list who simply do not have the extra money because they are a fulltime student. So they have to pay for their education and don't have enough time to work more. And I said playable, nowhere did I say enjoyable. Learn to read, or did you get punched one too many times on your head since you're a professional fighter. It is playable once again.

And since when is a fps of 30 considered a low framerate? A fps of 30 is enough for a smooth and enjoyable experience. The 4870 was cheap when I bought and I would not have had the same experience with a cheaper and slower card. Most games are GPU intensive. When I had a 8600gt I could barely run Crysis on medium on 1280x1024. When I replaced it with the 4870 I could run it on much higher settings with a smooth gameplay on 1920x1080. How do you explain that? My GPU gave some clock speed to my CPU because they became good buddies? In theory you are right, but since I have actually played with this setup you are wrong.

"I read hardware magazines and do benchmarks so I know better: :rolleyes: Ugh... some people...I was talking about someone, IN GENERAL, buying games when they do not have a pc decent enough to run them. and congratulations on running Crysis on 1920x1080 with your 4870. just think of all the other games you could run smoothly IF you had a decent cpu. gee did you not say that you only average 30 fps in Duke Nukem. well you could be getting twice that if you had not been so silly to stick with a Pentium D while buying a higher end video card. of course in the world that you live in even 25 fps is smooth, lol.

and I already told you that I have experience with low end hardware too. in fact the pc that I am using at this moment has an 8600gt. I can list about 20 different video cards and cpus that I have used and tested in the last few years but so so what?

so again please stop telling people they can run a game when they are no where near meeting even the minimum requirements. at least let the game come out first and check out benchmarks. of course to you those probably do not matter as 25 fps on all low settings at ♥♥♥ ugly 800x600 qualifies as gaming.

[james_2k]

point is, doesnt matter what you think of 25 fps, if hes happy with it, hes happy with it.

its better if you are happy with a lower fps, means you can get away with cheaper hardware :P

[BaboYa]

I'm giving you an example of changing the GPU to a 4870 does make a difference in fps and all you can come up with is get a better CPU. Is it so hard to read one's entire post.

Here's a summary then:
1. changing cpu is changing ram and mobo
2. changing mobo is changing case
3. changing all the above is changing the gpu since that would be the bottleneck then.

So I'm better off saving for a new custom built pc. And yes, I have read you have had a 8600gt amongst other cpus/gpus but you're not playing with it because 30fps is too low on my awesome leet pc of 6 cores and 100fps or whatever.

I'm done argueing with a stubborn someone who knows 'better'.

[deronan]

so i prob can run it at ♥♥♥♥ frames like all my others?

[trek554]

so i prob can run it at ♥♥♥♥ frames like all my others?all we can do is guess based on the requirements but it does not look good at all for you.

[deronan]

all we can do is guess based on the requirements but it does not look good at all for you.

thanks

[richei]

you want to know for sure? go here - http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/, select dead island, let it download the file and find out. I would say its iffy, not so much with the processor, but because of the video card, a 4300 is kinda ancient by today's standards. I'm not saying go out and spend a couple hundred on a new card, you can get a 6xxx card from ati for around 80-100 USD, you'd need a 500 watt psu though.

[trek554]

you want to know for sure? go here - http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/, select dead island, let it download the file and find out. I would say its iffy, not so much with the processor, but because of the video card, a 4300 is kinda ancient by today's standards. I'm not saying go out and spend a couple hundred on a new card, you can get a 6xxx card from ati for around 80-100 USD, you'd need a 500 watt psu though.and how is that any different than just looking at the requirements which we have already done? and his gpu is MUCH closer to meeting requirement than his cpu is. buying a new video card is not going to help him when the minimum cpu required is nearly twice as fast as what he has. and no modern card that costs 80-100 bucks would require a 500 watt psu. his entire system with a 6670 would probably pull around 160-170 actual watts at most.

[richei]

Its not, but from reading through things, the poster doesn't want to believe us, so maybe he'll believe a website dedicated to just this type of thing.

oh really? 6450 - around $50, 6670 - around $80, 6750 - around $100. The 6670 needs a 400 watt psu for 1, 500 for cfx, the 6750 starts out at 450 watts, needing 750 for cfx. So yes, with any of the cards, hard drive(2), cdroms, case fans, etc., a 500 watt psu would be recommended. Any of those cards would be an improvement over what he has now. And yes, he could definitely use a processor upgrade. He'll probably have to keep it at medium to avoid the bottleneck (if its there).

[deronan]

and how is that any different than just looking at the requirements which we have already done? and his gpu is MUCH closer to meeting requirement than his cpu is. buying a new video card is not going to help him when the minimum cpu required is nearly twice as fast as what he has. and no modern card that costs 80-100 bucks would require a 500 watt psu. his entire system with a 6670 would probably pull around 160-170 actual watts at most.

hate to say it but this i havent gotten a new chip in forever

[trek554]

Its not, but from reading through things, the poster doesn't want to believe us, so maybe he'll believe a website dedicated to just this type of thing.

oh really? 6450 - around $50, 6670 - around $80, 6750 - around $100. The 6670 needs a 400 watt psu for 1, 500 for cfx, the 6750 starts out at 450 watts, needing 750 for cfx. So yes, with any of the cards, hard drive(2), cdroms, case fans, etc., a 500 watt psu would be recommended. Any of those cards would be an improvement over what he has now. And yes, he could definitely use a processor upgrade. He'll probably have to keep it at medium to avoid the bottleneck (if its there).those cards do not need 400 or 500 watt power supplies. they only say that because there are so many cheap overrated power supplies out there that claim to be 400 or 500 watts yet are not worthy of even being called 250 to 300 watts units. my 5000 X2 and 4670 used 160-170 watts at the wall during full load which was only about 130-140 actual watts. his cpu uses about the same power as a 5000 X2 and a 6670 uses about 5-10 watts more than a 5670. heck my 2500k i5 and gtx260 gaming pc only would only use about 225 actual watts during gaming.

and yes a gpu upgrade will help in some games. AGAIN though when his cpu is NOT even remotely close to meeting minimum requirements then it will be nothing but a waste of time of time and money. all a faster gpu will do is give him the same crappy framerate but at a higher resolution if he chooses. he needs a better gpu AND cpu if he wants to play modern games.

[richei]

Well, I was going off what was posted on the amd website for the system specs. I know that's not always the case, but it can't hurt and its not like their expensive or anything.

as for the cpu, i agree with you.

[trek554]

Well, I was going off what was posted on the amd website for the system specs. I know that's not always the case, but it can't hurt and its not like their expensive or anything.

as for the cpu, i agree with you.yes its always better to have plenty of wiggle room with a psu. and chances are he might need to replace his psu with any type of upgrade. I was just saying that you do not technically need a 500 or even 400 watt psu for a very modest pc.

[richei]

As long as the amps are there, i guess it doesn't matter what the wattage is :) I ran into that problem, but thankfully bestbuy was having a sale on antec psu's that day ;)

[tatsu91]

he probally can run it i run new vegas on recomended settings and metro2033 on medium-high

on my rig

Pentium 4 HT 3.6 ghz

2 gb ram

ati radeon 4650 i seem to think he would do better than me and i think ima run it medium-low just fine

[trek554]

he probally can run it i run new vegas on recomended settings and metro2033 on medium-high

on my rig

Pentium 4 HT 3.6 ghz

2 gb ram

ati radeon 4650 i seem to think he would do better than me and i think ima run it medium-low just fineNew Vegas is not demanding at all. but you are full of crap claiming to run Metro 2033 smoothly on medium high with that setup. I turned off one core of my E8500 and the game was pretty choppy in spots. and that one core of my E8500 is twice as fast as your 3.6 P4. in another thread, you also claimed you ran Borderlands on "max" settings which is more BS. I had tested that game and posted a link showing that even the 3.8 P4 could only average 18 fps on max settings. you would have to at least turn off dynamic shadows to get just in the upper 20s in Borderlands with your cpu. please stop posting nonsense.

EDIT: and here is proof that you are exaggerating beyond belief in Metro 2033. in this review they used all low settings and even a Pentium EE 840 could only average 21 fps. a Pentium EE 840 is a dual core P4 with HT and will blow your single core P4 away. sure there are spots that are borderline playable but you will not even average more than about 15 fps with any action at all on your much slower single core P4. http://techreport.com/articles.x/20873/2

[Sami69]

your proccesor and graphic card are quite weak. But the minimum system requirements are rather low. So i would say you could play this game on low settings.But dont preorder it just on my sayings.Better save than sorry.

I never buy games if i'm even close at min requirements. Minimum means 800x640reso,everything low or off to ¨enjoy¨ 13-20fps. Nowdays recommended=medium settings on many games.

[Wendigo]

he probally can run it i run new vegas on recomended settings and metro2033 on medium-high

on my rig

Pentium 4 HT 3.6 ghz

2 gb ram

ati radeon 4650 i seem to think he would do better than me and i think ima run it medium-low just fine

ROFL. That must be 800x600, and 10FPS at the MAX

[tatsu91]

i have a similar low end setup

pentium 4 3.6 ghz

HD4650 2gb ram and yet i run NV on high decently metro2033 high playable and i can max borderlands and max DNF

[tatsu91]

no thats at 1024X768 at 15-30 FPS depending if im running the game only and other factors i run it on high arkham asylum and no metro is not at 30 FPS but i am running DX9 and it can get choppy when it gets intense but an normal area averaged 15-20 FPS

[tatsu91]

My pentium 4 is an HT

[tatsu91]

and i can max BL on my pc it is always near 30 FPS with all setting and resolition turned up to the highest settings

[trek554]

i have a similar low end setup

pentium 4 3.6 ghz

HD4650 2gb ram and yet i run NV on high decently metro2033 high playable and i can max borderlands and max DNF

no thats at 1024X768 at 15-30 FPS depending if im running the game only and other factors i run it on high arkham asylum and no metro is not at 30 FPS but i am running DX9 and it can get choppy when it gets intense but an normal area averaged 15-20 FPS

My pentium 4 is an HT

and i can max BL on my pc it is always near 30 FPS with all setting and resolition turned up to the highest settings

why are you posting like that? and sorry you are either delusional or a liar. you are not "averaging" 30 fps in Borderlands on all "max settings" with your single core P4. you may get 30 fps standing around in spots but that's about it. during action or any area with lots of dynamic shadows and you will be in the low 20s and teens. and you certainly are not running Metro 2033 properly on low much less high settings with a single core P4. I have tested those games myself and those websites I linked to back up my findings as even some faster cpus cannot do what you are claiming. and 15-20 fps is NOT playable so please take your ridiculous claims somewhere else. :rolleyes:

[ElfShotTheFood]

I'd rather not play a game at all than turn down all the settings to Off/Low just so it'll "run" on my ancient hardware.

Minimum specs are a joke designed to give people with old computers a sense of false hope. If you have a computer that is at or below minimum specs for a game, don't buy it. You won't have fun.

[tatsu91]

i said i run metro2033 on high at 15-20 fps on ultra its 12-15 fps i would fraps it but fraps kill my FPS and yes i get 30 borderlands in spots but i average 18-24

i get the same performance from metro as i get for BFBC2 i have tested it

[trek554]

i said i run metro2033 on high at 15-20 fps on ultra its 12-15 fps i would fraps it but fraps kill my FPS and yes i get 30 borderlands in spots but i average 18-24

i get the same performance from metro as i get for BFBC2 i have tested ityou keep changing your numbers and they are getting closer to what I said with the more you post. please stop calling all these action/shooter games playable because at 15-20 fps and 18-24 fps they are not. if you would use some common sense and turn off dynamic shadows then Borderlands would be playable. Metro 2033 and BC 2 on your single core P4 however will not ever be what most normal people call playable. and FRAPS does not give lag unless you a recording a video with it.

[tatsu91]

i changed them because i went and tested them and i am seriously JW can you run it said my P4 met a dual core 2 GHZ for the specs of new vegas is that correct cause lol i dont know anythng other than ghz=more and more cores = more power so a 2.ghz dual core = 4ghz single core but canyourunit said 3.6 ghz single core = or surpasses and dual core 2 GHZ so im ????????

[trek554]

different cpus have different architectures. your 3.6 P4 is slower than even just ONE core of a 2.0 Core 2 duo. a 2.0 Core 2 duo would literally be well over twice as fast as your 3.6 P4. and that is just the older Core 2 duo cpus. the newer ones were even faster clock for clock and also came with much faster clocks. you would have to have your single core P4 overclocked to an impossible 14 mhz to match the performance of a 3.16 E8500 core 2 duo. and even an E8500 is slower than new i5/i7 cpus. basically you are living in the stone age compared to modern cpus.

[JohnDman187]

will i be able to play at max settings?
my specs are below-

Intel Core i7-2600 processor(8MB Cache, 3.4GHz)
8GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4x2GB
Single AMD Radeon HD 6870
1TB Serial ATA 2 Hard Drive 7200 RPM
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit, English, No Media

[trek554]

will i be able to play at max settings?
my specs are below-

Intel Core i7-2600 processor(8MB Cache, 3.4GHz)
8GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4x2GB
Single AMD Radeon HD 6870
1TB Serial ATA 2 Hard Drive 7200 RPM
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit, English, No Mediai would assume so but you do know all we can do is guess at this point. unless you encode or run software that utilizes HT then you would have done better to get a 2500k and spend 100 bucks more on the gpu.

[JohnDman187]

i would assume so but you do know all we can do is guess at this point. unless you encode or run software that utilizes HT then you would have done better to get a 2500k and spend 100 bucks more on the gpu.

it will be awhile before im able to get a new gpu, so you dont think i can run this game smooth on medium or high settings atleast?

[trek554]

it will be awhile before im able to get a new gpu, so you dont think i can run this game smooth on medium or high settings atleast?you just asked if you could run max settings and I said I assume you probably can. we do not know exactly how the game will perform so again all we can do is guess based on the recommended requirements which you greatly exceed. if a 6850 is what it takes to run medium settings then this would be the worst optimized game ever.

[JohnDman187]

you just asked if you could run max settings and I said I assume you probably can. we do not know exactly how the game will perform so again all we can do is guess based on the recommended requirements which you greatly exceed. if a 6850 is what it takes to run medium settings then this would be the worst optimized game ever.

thanks for your patience, i gave you some rep :cool: