worth buying?

[aggelosforever]

HEY! :) when i saw the first gameplay of this game i was really amazed! and i really want to buy this game but why all these people critisize the game? there is no demo out yet. What make you thinks this game will be like the rest zombie games? from my side i never had steam and i created my first to buy this game but i havent decided yet! shouls i buy this or something else?:confused:

[ParrotCarrot]

...but why all these people critisize the game...

Lack of research & prejudgment. For example, many people complain about the floating numbers above the zombies. Yet if they would have done some research it would be clear to them that this option can be turned off.
They think they know how the melee weapons will feel while they only have watched some videos.

Don't listen to them too much. Wait until the reviews start coming or when you have played it yourself. Then make a judgement whether you like it or not.

[Ric666]

Trolls will troll :)

Don't worry about other peoples opinion. Just make your own mind up on what you think & either go for it or not.

[mr.weeto]

Watch gameplay videos for your self and then create your own opinion based on what you've experienced, instead of going of the opinions of people on the internet. mtv.com surprisingly has three good videos of the first 20 minutes or so of the game if you're interested.
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2011/08/11/dead-island-the-first-20-minutes-of-gameplay-video/

[PUGS1688]

Much of the criticism that I have read is coming from people who have actually played the game. That's enough for me to wait for reviews. I've been burned by impulse pre-orders long enough.

[Graeystone]

Much of the criticism that I have read is coming from people who have actually played the game. That's enough for me to wait for reviews. I've been burned by impulse pre-orders long enough.

Agreed. Valve already gave this game achievements, forum, etc. and that was almost a 1 1/2 months ago.

Don't care about all of that. A demo would be nice for actual decision making on whether to buy or not.

[oldbrokenlink]

here is an interesting preview from someone who played for an hour

http://kotaku.com/5829491/five-disappointing-things-about-my-first-few-hours-on-dead-island

i am a bit disappointed that the island is not as open / destructable / interactive as the one in old crysis 1

basically it's sounds like a combination of dead rising and left 4 dead 2 on a bigger map, and for the exception of some vehicles that you can drive, as dead.

for example can you drive into a tree or fence or building and destroy or even damage it

i read neither you nor the zombies can even move a simple chair. you have to go around the fixed objects

so no destruction like bc2/bf3

and that nice open ocean water, well one can't even swim in it :(

[Lothear]

here is an interesting preview from someone who played for an hour

http://kotaku.com/5829491/five-disappointing-things-about-my-first-few-hours-on-dead-island

i am a bit disappointed that the island is not as open / destructable / interactive as the one in old crysis 1

basically it's sounds like a combination of dead rising and left 4 dead 2 on a bigger map, and for the exception of some vehicles that you can drive, as dead.

for example can you drive into a tree or fence or building and destroy or even damage it

i read neither you nor the zombies can even move a simple chair. you have to go around the fixed objects

so no destruction like bc2/bf3

and that nice open ocean water, well one can't even swim in it :(

if your looking for twitch l4d/bf3 gameplay this isn't for you. this isn't farcry1/crysis either. this game is nothing like those games. its slower placed melee-centric with quest like objectives ala fallout3. its more of a thinking man's zombie survival game with rgp elements, skill trees, equipment slots. If anything this game has more in common with the system shock series then anything of the other games you are used to playing. bioshock is just system shock lite imho.

if your really want to go for a swim you can always jump into the many resort pools but the zombies might have a problem with it, hehe.

[oldbrokenlink]

if your looking for twitch l4d/bf3 gameplay this isn't for you. this isn't farcry1/crysis either. this game is nothing like those games. its slower placed melee-centric with quest like objectives ala fallout3. its more of a thinking man's zombie survival game with rgp elements, skill trees, equipment slots. If anything this game has more in common with the system shock series then anything of the other games you are used to playing. bioshock is just system shock lite imho.

if your really want to go for a swim you can always jump into the many resort pools but the zombies might have a problem with it, hehe.

well thank y ou

i don't know anyhting about fallout3 or system shock series.

and while i've played and purchased both bioshock, i find it linear, heavily scripted and somewhat boring.

i do agree its looking more like a melee-centric game. a thinking mans zombie game.

i'm tempted by the open island, the thought of killing zombies, the supposed graphics

i'm worried it will be too much like cod/l4d in the sense that objects will be just pretty things that you can only go around or over but can't pickup, distroy, move, and otherwise interact with.

i would very much like to see a demo. i'm disappointed that they delayed (some say cancelled) it

i worry about all the hype

i like that its like dead rising 2 in the sense that you can craft new and exciting weapons to kill zombies with

i would prefer if they did dead rising 2 like game on a truely crysis/farcry2 open island with bc2/bf3 destruction. i like all the fun weapons.

anyways we will soon know. best regards

[NowImNothing]

here is an interesting preview from someone who played for an hour

http://kotaku.com/5829491/five-disappointing-things-about-my-first-few-hours-on-dead-island

i am a bit disappointed that the island is not as open / destructable / interactive as the one in old crysis 1

basically it's sounds like a combination of dead rising and left 4 dead 2 on a bigger map, and for the exception of some vehicles that you can drive, as dead.

for example can you drive into a tree or fence or building and destroy or even damage it

i read neither you nor the zombies can even move a simple chair. you have to go around the fixed objects

so no destruction like bc2/bf3

and that nice open ocean water, well one can't even swim in it :(

I think what I find most inspiring about that review is that even with those points he had problems with, he still found Dead Island a positive experience.

Problems aside, I was still pleased with my brief time on Dead Island.

I enjoyed attempting to drive the pickup truck down onto the beach, getting stuck between railings while zombies slowly chipped away at my health from the sides.

I loved the tension of having my sole weapon shatter in the face of my first encounter with an undead bodybuilder.

I reveled in having relative free reign to go where I wanted to in the environment, limited only by my bravery and the staying power of my chosen weapons.

I even had fun finding flaws.

I blame their insanely beautiful, horrifying, and impossible-to-live-up-to initial trailer for much of the disappointment. The videos released after that, show a game with gameplay more similar to Borderlands, than the gritty, serious, zombie survival simulation a lot of people were hoping for.

It still looks like some fun co-op, and for me, that's enough to pre-order.

[oldbrokenlink]

I think what I find most inspiring about that review is that even with those points he had problems with, he still found Dead Island a positive experience.



I blame their insanely beautiful, horrifying, and impossible-to-live-up-to initial trailer for much of the disappointment. The videos released after that, show a game with gameplay more similar to Borderlands, than the gritty, serious, zombie survival simulation a lot of people were hoping for.

It still looks like some fun co-op, and for me, that's enough to pre-order.


yes i think you are right

the trailer woke many people to the game

after the trailer, who can be happy, the trailer was like nothing ive seen even from the biggest movie studios, one one wants to go back and watch it again and again, i cant still hear the haunting somber music, its very saddening, seeing it rips at your hearts, brings ones to tears, its an emotion packed clip wrapped in a bomb that explodes as you watch it, that sucks you in, a whole movie wrapped into a few minutes, its like nothing ive seen, one has to applaud the talent that created it, it is what a blockbuster movie should be and much more, they should give it an academy award, if only the game could be the trailer, if only the trailer would be longer, who would not be disappointed after watching the trailer.

if anyone has any question about what trailer we are talking about just take a look at this great work of art. i mean its the best advertisement for any product, too good, surely overshadow any product it represents even great ones.

sadly the game is not the trailer, its a different game/world. for example if i drive a car into a small chair the car would stop, the chair would not move and both would be undamaged, and the live world would quickly evaporate into l4d 2 with large map and maybe fewer, but more realistic harder to kill zombies and melee weapons to beat them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqrG1bdGtg

here is alternative version of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwtr_-4vz6g&NR=1

hopefully someone will create happy ammo / weapon hack and let us run around killing zombies with a shutgun and with impunity and without fear of running into a hoard of them and only having a butter knife to defend ourselves. at least give me a flame thrower and a chainsaw.

[Smear]

I blame their insanely beautiful, horrifying, and impossible-to-live-up-to initial trailer for much of the disappointment. The videos released after that, show a game with gameplay more similar to Borderlands, than the gritty, serious, zombie survival simulation a lot of people were hoping for.

Can I propose that it wasn't that the trailer was beautiful, amazing or impossible to live up to... It was that the trailer represented the game to be something it isn't. It suggested it would be a serious, emotional, survival at all costs game that put you face to face with the horror of what happened...

... Instead we're offered this goofy, Dead Rising-Esque, silly weapon making, one liner cracking stuff.

Don't get me wrong! I enjoyed Dead Rising for what it was! It was hilarious, making your own weapons was funny and it didn't bother me for a second that it wasn't a realistic representation of what a zombie outbreak might be like. It was great... But it never once presented itself as anything except what it was.

I can't help but feel that if the trailer had been more honest in nature that there wouldn't be so much bitterness over the game itself. Those people who wanted something new and special would have avoided it and never felt the need to bag it, while those people who wanted a newer, bigger version of the old Zombie format would have been delighted with what was on offer.

[oldbrokenlink]

Can I propose that it wasn't that the trailer was beautiful, amazing or impossible to live up to... It was that the trailer represented the game to be something it isn't. It suggested it would be a serious, emotional, survival at all costs game that put you face to face with the horror of what happened...

... Instead we're offered this goofy, Dead Rising-Esque, silly weapon making, one liner cracking stuff.

Don't get me wrong! I enjoyed Dead Rising for what it was! It was hilarious, making your own weapons was funny and it didn't bother me for a second that it wasn't a realistic representation of what a zombie outbreak might be like. It was great... But it never once presented itself as anything except what it was.

I can't help but feel that if the trailer had been more honest in nature that there wouldn't be so much bitterness over the game itself. Those people who wanted something new and special would have avoided it and never felt the need to bag it, while those people who wanted a newer, bigger version of the old Zombie format would have been delighted with what was on offer.



dead island aside, did you check out the new weapons in the upcoming dead rising. its nuts what they are doing. far more over the top. the thing takes place in a theme amusement park and the rides can be the weapons used to like launch zombies into the air. or crush them as the ride passes swings by. its very funny. that and the upcoming saintes row 3 are pushing the limit on what the one can do in a sandbox. ok the deadrising sandbox is sort of like a big enclosed area, or a series of enclosed areas. but its sandboxish enough.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2072957

[Lothear]

Can I propose that it wasn't that the trailer was beautiful, amazing or impossible to live up to... It was that the trailer represented the game to be something it isn't. It suggested it would be a serious, emotional, survival at all costs game that put you face to face with the horror of what happened...

... Instead we're offered this goofy, Dead Rising-Esque, silly weapon making, one liner cracking stuff.

Don't get me wrong! I enjoyed Dead Rising for what it was! It was hilarious, making your own weapons was funny and it didn't bother me for a second that it wasn't a realistic representation of what a zombie outbreak might be like. It was great... But it never once presented itself as anything except what it was.

I can't help but feel that if the trailer had been more honest in nature that there wouldn't be so much bitterness over the game itself. Those people who wanted something new and special would have avoided it and never felt the need to bag it, while those people who wanted a newer, bigger version of the old Zombie format would have been delighted with what was on offer.

Let's not make hasty judgements about its plot, when we really haven't seen anything but gameplay mechanics and a few intro scenes. (which I think are excellent)

so what was introduced in the family trailer that it would not live up to? It may win trailer of the year awards for its editing/cinematography, but its not a Citizen Kane/Amadeus/Braveheart in its story telling. A family gets torn a new one by zombies, that's all its about. And as far I can tell, the game continues that theme...

[Smear]

dead island aside, did you check out the new weapons in the upcoming dead rising. its nuts what they are doing. far more over the top. the thing takes place in a theme amusement park and the rides can be the weapons used to like launch zombies into the air. or crush them as the ride passes swings by. its very funny. that and the upcoming saintes row 3 are pushing the limit on what the one can do in a sandbox. ok the deadrising sandbox is sort of like a big enclosed area, or a series of enclosed areas. but its sandboxish enough.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2072957

Yeah, it's kinda crazy. Still, that's it's style of game. :) When I was kicking footballs around to hit as many zombies as I could, or lawn-mowering them down in droves, I never once said to myself: "I hope they don't take this mad-capped zanyness too far" ;)

Let's not make hasty judgements about its plot, when we really haven't seen anything but gameplay mechanics and a few intro scenes. (which I think are excellent)

The plot, relevent or not to the rest of the conversation, can't pull itself from the mire that is the rest of the game now. In fact, the more serious they try and make the plot after adding stickybomb C4 knives, the more insulting I would find it. It's not a good blend... A serious story with a realistic focus while your character shoots out one liners and enters a rage mode. :(

so what was introduced in the family trailer that it would not live up to? It may win trailer of the year awards for its editing/cinematography, but its not a Citizen Kane/Amadeus/Braveheart in its story telling. A family gets torn a new one by zombies, that's all its about. And as far I can tell, the game continues that theme...

I think you're being glib, or purposley reducing the elements down. The trailer promised a story that was serious, emotoinal, delbt with harsh issues and strong themes of loss and desperation... While the game play promises hand crafted mad-capped weapons, over the top zombie murder and all round a more 'fun' atmosphere where we were originaly promised grit. Maybe that comincation works for others, but for my money I don't want jocularity pulling focus from strong story elements... Or, on the other hand, a strong, dark story ruining good fun. It's like being at a fancy dress party when someone starts a fight, or going to fight club and finding one guy dressed as superman.

... Scratch that. Fighting superman would be AWESOME! ;)

I'm not going to try and make you agree. It's just an opinion of mine. I'm offering an explination as to why it might seem like the game has come under fire despite, in it's own right, appearing to be a fine creation.

[richei]

Personally, i could care less if its dead rising or l4d or whatever else its being compared too. The only reason i pre-ordered it was because there are way to few good co-op games. Its something i can play with friends until bf3 comes out.

The game isn't even complete, why would there be a demo out? if there is one, it'll be shortly before release or a little afterwards.

[Ardbug]

I was hoping for more of a survivalist game, but it looks like an arcade melee/shooter so far, I will wait for Dead State instead, made by the old Troika team (vampire bloodlines), without any form of super/magic/boss/intergalactic zombies.
I doubt it will be better than Fort Zombie either (better from my POV and what I prefer to play, you are probably different with different cravings).

[richei]

Never heard of any of those games, so we'll see :)

[Smear]

made by the old Troika team (vampire bloodlines.

Man... I really hope those guys have better luck with this new game. Bloodlines was such an under-rated gem because of the last second money issues that resulted in all those bugs. I look forward to seeing if they can pull this one out of the hat! :D

[Ardbug]

Man... I really hope those guys have better luck with this new game. Bloodlines was such an under-rated gem because of the last second money issues that resulted in all those bugs. I look forward to seeing if they can pull this one out of the hat! :D

Same here, I have soooo much respect for the Troika team, and I never thought I would find another game by them, I thought they were scattered like the wind for good, but I stumbled across their website some time ago and now my faith in PC gaming has been propelled to new heights, the Troika guys are actually back with a PC dedicated title :)

I might still pick up Dead Island though, the visuals are quite visceral and immersive, so even though it may not be a "survivor" game like the Ant Attack genre of games, it could have a lot of value still, I will however wait for reviews.